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Tonight, the Romanians and Bulgarians are coming in the New | :00:07. | :00:12. | |
Year. You have seen the headlines and heard the rhetoric. London is | :00:13. | :00:19. | |
already ex-piercing a Romanian -- experiencing a Romanian crime wave. | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
I want to find the truth behind the headlines. Do you know anybody | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
amongst your friends who would p want to move to the UK next year? | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
No. Some British companies are keen to | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
persuade more Romanians to come. The demand for them all over Europe is | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
huge. But we also find a village emptied | :00:42. | :00:49. | |
of low-skilled workers. Where have they gone? We have exclusive access | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
with British police on a mission from North London to trans | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
Transylvania. Some people have stigmatised various communities and | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
said they are coming to the UK, bent on criminality. Back home, a British | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
town which fears it faces more pressure on its schools and | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
hospitals. Is it particularly Romanians can worry you? Honestly | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
speaking, yes. The police tells Panorama it is making landmark | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
changes. We will stop them coming back if they are coming back to | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
rough sleep. Images like this have angered the nation. With days to go | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
until they get full working rights in the UK, should we really be | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
worried? Woods in North London. We are with | :01:34. | :01:55. | |
the police looking for a camp of homeless Romanians. Officers from a | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
special Romanian unit are also with us, working alongside the Met. | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
Overnight, the weather has been bad and the police think this camp has | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
been abandoned. You can see they have tried to make | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
it home. They have got bags in here, hanging up. They have got mirrors, | :02:15. | :02:22. | |
old mattresses. Really, there's an overwhelming smell of urine and | :02:23. | :02:31. | |
faeces. Good morning everybody. Thanks for | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
getting up... Earlier we had a briefing. The Romanian police | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
arrived in the autumn as part of an intelligence-sharing process with | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
their British counterparts. Since 2012, we've had large groups | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
of Romanians have been sleeping rough, engaging in work on the black | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
market and some antisocial behaviour. The camp is quiet. But | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
then, we find two Romanians - a young couple in a freezing tent. Can | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
I ask you - how long have you been here? Two weeks. | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
The camp has been reported to the police by the landowner. If they | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
don't raid it, they think it will fill up again fast. More rough | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
sleepers, more antisocial behaviour. It is not really fair on the | :03:21. | :03:31. | |
Romanians to be living like this. We will take them to a homeless | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
organisation to see if they can get cleaned up - a bit of food and see | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
if we can offer them some help. These two already have the right to | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
be in the UK. Romania and Bulgaria joined Europe | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
seven years ago. Until now, to work here you needed to have specialist | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
skills like doctors and nurses, or be self-employed, or be a seasonal | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
agricultural worker. But from January 1st, everyone will be | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
allowed to join the jobs market. Do you really think that living in | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
these condition conditions, that you are in at the moment, that is | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
preferable to being in Romania? Average salaries in Romania are | :04:13. | :04:28. | |
about three times lower than in the UK. In Bulgaria around four times | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
lower. What kind of work did you think you | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
might find? Do you have friends who have come | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
here and got work? The police won't take it any | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
further. They tell the couple how to get into the system legally next | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
year and give them a deadline to leave the woods. | :04:49. | :04:58. | |
There's another side to Romanians here in the UK. This is a reception | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
in the embassy in London. It is full of lawyers, architects and students. | :05:04. | :05:15. | |
I am they are here to find a real job, pay tax to the Government. The | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
number of Romanian students at UK universities have increased by 30% | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
since 2010. Many of them sense they are treated with suspicion. | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
What do you think is the perception of Romanians in the UK? It is not a | :05:30. | :05:36. | |
great one, to be honest. Through our individuality and our views we can | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
tell them and show them the greatness of our country. The first | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
thing I say when I meet a new person I say, this is my background, where | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
I come from. I say I am Romanian. I know people because of the negative | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
approach to Romanians lately, they don't want to say that. | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
The negative attitudes have been fuelled by images such as these. | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
Romanian Roma around Marble Arch this summer. Police moved them on | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
many times. Some have even been flown home but returned. | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
Then there was this - a camp at Hendon football club. It was evicted | :06:16. | :06:23. | |
by police in the summer. As a result crime in the area dropped. | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
Still, of all the arrests for begging in London last year, | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
Romanians accounted for 49%. For pickpocketing it was 34%. Figures | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
like that have helped shape our opinions. | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
A recent poll suggested 82% of people thought restrictions on the | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
numbers of Romanians and Bulgarians allowed to set until the UK should | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
continue next year. It has all helped boost the popularity of the | :06:54. | :07:01. | |
UK Independence Party. Let's be franing here, crime will come if | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
these people -- frank here, crime will come if these people come here. | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
It is something British society doesn't need. Is that something | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
specific to Romanians? There is a definite link between Romania and | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
crime - that is born out of these statistics. | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
I don't like to draw the distinction of anything such as Romanian crime. | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
Crime is crime and we will enforce against all of it. What drives crime | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
not just poverty - it is dispartiy. Romania is clearly a poor country in | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
comparison to the United Kingdom. And the temptations temptations | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
available to all migrants from poorer backgrounds, from anywhere in | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
the world, are greater when they come to what is perceived to be a | :07:45. | :07:45. | |
richer country. Transy vain ya in northern row -- | :07:46. | :08:01. | |
Transylvania, in northern Romania. It is where I first met my wife, now | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
a barrister in the UK. I have been coming here for two decades. | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
There are some prosperous towns up here, but there is also poverty and | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
no group is poorer than the Roma. They are a different ethnicity from | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
Romanians, they came from India 700 years ago and settled across many | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
Eastern Europe countries. I am joining British police, here in an | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
information-sharing process. This is the village of Apata. It might look | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
like any other traditional, tranquil community in the Carpa mountains. It | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
is not. Apata has a secret and the British police have come all this | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
way to try and unlock it. Chief Superintendent Adrian Usher's | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
patch in London has a high number of Romanians, many of them Roma. It is | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
the Roma many Romanians blame for their poor image abroad. Remember | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
the Hendon Stadium, out of the 68 evicted, 65 came from Apata. | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
Is this your home? He wants to find out why. How many people live here? | :09:12. | :09:24. | |
Seven. Is there any water or... No. What do you use for the toilet and | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
washing? Toilet in the field. | :09:28. | :09:38. | |
The Roma have been persecuted through the centuries. | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
This mission is a delicate one. Once he's discovered why so many from | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
here came to the UK, he'll advise them they shouldn't return unless | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
they can support themselves. What I am saying is we know that if you | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
come to the UK without a main job to come to, then you are at increased | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
risk of being exploited or being the victim or perpetrator of crime. You | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
are stepping into a controversial arena here. The issue of immigration | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
and what will happen to Romania in particular in the New Year. I am not | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
here to comment on political issues. We are here to protect the residents | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
of London, that includes those who come to London looking for work. | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
Next is the home of a man who used to live in the Hendon Stadium camp. | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
He knows the secret of why so many from Apata headed to the same place. | :10:31. | :10:38. | |
Who was the first person to leave here? Was it you? No. My cousin. | :10:39. | :10:46. | |
Your cousin was the first. And he went and then he phoned you. | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
Do you know how many people from here went to London? Do you know? | :10:50. | :11:01. | |
Maybe 400. People like Alexandru travelled to | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
the UK for work on the strength of one phone call. They are preprared | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
to endure a grim camp in London so they can provide enough money for a | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
family home like this. Thank you for letting me see your | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
home. He plans to live in the Chief | :11:18. | :11:29. | |
Superintendent's own patch back in London. | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
If you want to get an idea of the depth of the connection between here | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
and the UK, one little girl ran over and said, "Very good in | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
Cricklewood." Cricklewood - you know Cricklewood? | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
Very good! And it is Cricklewood where hundreds | :11:44. | :11:54. | |
of Romanians, many of them Roma, are part of a growing underclass. This | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
is what residents wake up to each morning - gangs of Romanians waiting | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
for work on the black market. Among them is Alex, who looks for | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
cash-in-hand labouring jobs. He speaks no English and has no | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
qualifications. Even so, he plans to try and enter the formal job market | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
in January. Back home, he has a partner and | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
three children, deciding whether to come too. | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
TRANSLATION: I am a Gypsy and proud of it. It is not an inUS I do not | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
steal and don't commit crimes. I would bring my family here. I don't | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
think it would be too difficult to look after them. I would rent two | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
rooms and a kitchen if everything was convenient. | :12:46. | :12:53. | |
So, how many others have come. Since 2007? Official figures say there are | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
currently just over 100,000 Romanians and 57,000 Bulgarians. | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
Those are just estimates. The truth is, we simply don't know. | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
We don't count them in and don't count them out? No, we don't. When I | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
spoke to you last year we raised the same point, you said it will change | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
soon. Yes, we are putting in place exit controls. How many Bulgarians | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
and Romanians does the Government think will come here next year? If | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
you look at the organises who have made estimates, they vary. Some have | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
made them at the low end. The range demonstrates it is not a sensible | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
thing to do. Politicians have got their | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
guesstimates badly wrong before. In 2004, ten new countries joined | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
Europe. The Poles with their close ties to the UK were expected to | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
come. But the Labour Government underestimated the number by at | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
least five times. That has given UKIP a stick with which to beat the | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
other parties this time around. The number of people who have come has | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
been underestimated. MigrationwatchUK say it will be | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
50,000 a year, that is what they estimate over the next five years. | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
What we know or expect is that large numbers of people will come. His | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
figures are from a think-tank concerned about uncontrolled | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
immigration. In 204 it was about -- 2004, it was about countries joining | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
the EU. This time Romania and Bulgaria are in. | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
The newspapers are saying the gates are opening - there'll be a flood of | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
Romanians - is that something you recognise? Absolutely not. Because | :14:42. | :14:47. | |
Romania joined the European Union seven years ago. Those who wanted to | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
go and work and live abroad, they already did so. And a very tiny | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
minority of Romanians have chosen Britain as their work destination. | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
Back in Romania, there's another side to the country - the middle | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
classes, with very different attitudes towards the UK. | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
Whilst we are filming, my brother-in-law is offered a job in | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
the UK. He and a group of friends were | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
enjoying a drink in their favourite bar in Bucharest. The job is for a | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
US computer giant based in London. I am intrigued to find out if he'll | :15:27. | :15:29. | |
take it. Most people would think you would | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
leap at the chance and say, great, a UK-based job? Not really. There | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
should be a lot of money to motivate me to make such a big change. You | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
only said I'll come for pots of money - did you? Not quite. That was | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
the message. And what about the others? You have been to the UK, | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
haven't you? I lived in the UK for two years. I used to work for a | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
British company. Why did you leave? I thought two years was enough for | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
me to get the British experience and then move on. | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
Have you been to the UK? No. Do you want to go? Yes, on vacation. As | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
they point out, it's not just the UK lifting its work restrictions next | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
year. There are eight other European countries doing the same. | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
I don't really understand why they feel they are the only privileged | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
people who will receive the flood of Romanians. | :16:31. | :16:37. | |
But we did find some people interested in exploring the UK jobs | :16:38. | :16:39. | |
market. At this career careers fare for | :16:40. | :16:50. | |
medical professional, British recruiters are having to work hard | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
to attract the cream. The Romanians are in huge demand in Germany. The | :16:56. | :17:00. | |
Danish are here and they will recruit as many as they can. The | :17:01. | :17:04. | |
Scandinavians are here. The demand for them all over Europe is huge. | :17:05. | :17:14. | |
When Romanians migrate most look south, towards the Mediterranean and | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
Italy, where the language is closer to theirs. There are over one | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
million Romanians already there. Spain is second, with 800,000, even | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
though it has similar work restrictions to the UK. Britain is | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
way behind, with an estimate of just over 100,000. Some countries believe | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
migrants bring economic advantages and they offer incentives to come. | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
You have companies here that give courses to do German and any doctor | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
or nurse with a reasonable level of German will get a job in Germany | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
very easily. Probably easier than working in the UK. | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
Even so, we find Aura Popa - a graduate pharmacist. | :17:58. | :18:04. | |
She's just been offered a job in Dudley, near Birmingham. She fell in | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
love with the UK after being a student there. For all migrants, | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
mastering English opens up the international jobs market. The | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
decision for Aura is not a simple one. | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
At home, she's got six-year-old Luca and ten-month-old Emma. They will | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
not be able to come with her until she knows the job is permanent. | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
After much thought, she decides to take it. | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
I hope my children will love England as much as I do. I really like the | :18:39. | :18:44. | |
country and that is where I want to live for a long period of time. | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
Her husband, Ciprian, will stay with the children in Romania for the | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
moment. It will be a difficult period for | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
me, staying without them, but I hope a short period of time, as soon as I | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
get more confidence over there, I can bring them. So, I will work very | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
hard to bring them quickly. This is the family's last evening | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
together. She leaves tomorrow and they are not sure when they will be | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
reunited. Graduates like Aura are not the ones | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
worrying most people though. It's the unskilled, and the uncounted who | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
currently live beneath the radar like the man in Cricklewood and | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
Alex. Despite his good intentions about securing a proper job in the | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
New Year, you can see how he might become a burden to the UK taxpayer. | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
There are signs of just how vulnerable it can be. | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
TRANSLATION: I worked for three days on someone's property. They drove me | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
far away and I didn't even know where I was or how to come back. I | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
waited for two or three days and I tried to call, but when no-one | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
answered, I had no money left and didn't have anyone to borrow money | :20:04. | :20:05. | |
from. He never got paid. What about next | :20:06. | :20:15. | |
year? Could he really earn enough to support his family if his wife | :20:16. | :20:17. | |
decides to come to London as well? We agreed to deliver a video message | :20:18. | :20:23. | |
when we meet up with her. Alex comes from a small, mainly Roma | :20:24. | :20:41. | |
village, Augustin, just up the road from the last one we visited. It is | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
another place where many of the men have already left to find work all | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
over Europe. His partner, Magda, lives in this half-built house with | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
their three small children. Hello. How are you? What will you do next | :20:58. | :21:03. | |
year? Do you plan to join him in Britain? | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
TRANSLATION: For a short period of time. Four or five years maybe. | :21:08. | :21:16. | |
Le, I can't permanently live in a foreign country. | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
Are there any incentives which would encourage her to come? Do you know | :21:21. | :21:29. | |
anything about claiming benefits in the UK? Have you heard anything | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
about that? No. Has your husband mentioned it at all? No. No. Would | :21:35. | :21:38. | |
you go to England just to get benefits? No. | :21:39. | :21:45. | |
TRANSLATION: What would be the point of leaving Romania, just for social | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
benefits. No. | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
Others we spoke to said the same. We went inside to see the video Alex | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
had sent to his family. Le If they do come, this is the kind | :21:57. | :22:28. | |
of place they might choose to settle - migrants have been arriving in | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
Slough for generations. 58% of people here are non-British | :22:34. | :22:40. | |
nationals. Some are sick of it. This is a town where there's already been | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
tension between some of the local population and East European | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
migrants. Right now, they are worried about Romanians. | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
The major problem for us is the resources like schooling, housing, | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
NHS. That's not just related to Romanian, that is an increasing | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
population. It is a challenge for the council and the police. The | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
police and council are working together to sort of resolve the | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
issue. Those kind of worries are reflected | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
across the country. A recent poll suggested that 85% of people thought | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
immigration is placing too much pressure on public services. At the | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
YMCA, community leaders are discussing the ro man Romanian | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
new-comers, mostly Roma. I still have to say about the gathering | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
around the side of my flats, but not long ago there was 50 there and they | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
made such a noise with their talking so loud, they were out there until | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
about 2am. You go the next day and the place is covered with litter. | :23:47. | :23:53. | |
But the YMCA has developed cohesion programmes for the local community, | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
including the Roma - educating the children and trying to win hearts | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
and minds. One of the things I get annoyed | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
about is the negative press about them. As a community they have been | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
accepted now. The young children believe they are part of this | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
community. But there are Sloughs up and down | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
the land and particularly in lean economic times some are worried the | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
new migrants are a step too far, even those who are second generation | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
migrants themselves. It is not just the ro Romanian, the | :24:30. | :24:36. | |
Bulgarians are coming too. Is it particularly Romanians that worry | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
you? Honestly speaking, yes. They do worry me more than others. Why? I | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
don't know, it is just something that I... You cannot pinpoint | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
exactly what it is, but they like to keep themselves separate away from | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
you. They don't want to build that bond. Maybe Pakistanis were like | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
that when they first came? They were actually like that, but look at me | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
today! There were many others in Slough with similar views. | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
Now, the Government is so worried about potential benefit abuse by EU | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
migrants that landmark changes are being implemented. From next year, | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
any new EU migrant will only be able to claim benefits for six months. | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
After that they have to prove they have a realistic chance of finding a | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
job or the money will stop. And English language skills will be | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
assessed to make sure they are employable. | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
The timing of this suggests that it was against Romanians and Bulgarians | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
in particular? No, it is not just about those two countries T changes | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
are about making sure anybody coming here, from anywhere in the European | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
Union, they are coming here to contribute and not to claim from our | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
benefit system. I have met with ambassadors from those countries, | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
any of the rules apply to all European Union nationals. | :25:58. | :26:05. | |
More than 707% of those Romanians who decided to come to Britain are | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
of an age of 18-35. They are young, they are in good health. They do not | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
ask for social benefits. They do not ask for health care. Those who came | :26:15. | :26:17. | |
to Britain, they came to work, not for benefits. | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
Other landmark measures include the clearance of camps like these. From | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
January European nationals found rough sleeping, reg begging or in | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
antisocial behaviour will be sent home and barred from re-entry for 12 | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
months, unless they can prove they have a valid reason to be in the UK. | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
There is a talk of capping the number of migrants. Some are worried | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
this is an attack of freedom of movement within the EU. Others, like | :26:50. | :26:58. | |
UKIP, say the best solution is to leave European Union already. It | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
underpins the fill lossty of -- philosophy of Europe. You are | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
chipping away at that The point we have made is we're perfectly happy | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
with the principal, but we have to make sure it is not abused. It is | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
recalibrated. We are in the European Union. The Prime Minister said we | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
need to make some changes to the relationship. That is something that | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
if we win the next election, a Conservative Government will | :27:23. | :27:24. | |
renegotiate and put back to the British people. The Prime Minister | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
has made it clear, he wants to stay in the European Union, but with a | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
change relationship. Since we filmed, Alex has returned | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
to Romania. One of his children has a serious lung infection and is | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
hospitalised N the New Year he hopes to come back and work legally. He is | :27:45. | :27:52. | |
not sure his wife will join him. Aura has settled down so quickly at | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
her pharmacy in Dudley, they have already promoted her. It means she | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
can bring her family to join her for Christmas. I wanted this for a long | :28:02. | :28:05. | |
time and it is finally happening. It is like a dream come true. I really | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
don't imimagine them being here. I don't imagine my husband, my son, my | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
daughter, you know, to start speaking in English and not Romanian | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
- it is strange. It is like a dream come true. | :28:21. | :28:22. | |
How many will come here in the New Year is impossible to say. The | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
politicians might be talking as if they can control all of this, but in | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
reality their hands are tied. This isn't just a debate about Romania | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
and Bulgaria, but about the future of our relationship with Europe and | :28:37. | :28:38. | |
how we might be able to change it. Hello, I'm Ellie Crisell with your | :28:39. | :29:11. | |
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