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Pakistan, a nation under siege. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
Almost every day, in towns and cities across the country, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
the Taliban attack. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Bombings, assassinations, kidnappings. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
Even schools have been a target. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Pakistanis are paying with their lives. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
Entire districts of the country's largest city, Karachi, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
have been infiltrated by the Taliban. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
The last line of defence, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
a police force that was never intended to fight terrorism. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
They're fighting an enemy intent on destroying anyone | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
that gets in the way of their jihad or holy war. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
We follow the so-called Taliban hunters, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
the men who risk their lives every day on the front line. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Almost 24 million people live in Karachi. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
It's Pakistan's commercial centre | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
and one of the largest cities in the world. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
But it's also become one of the most dangerous cities. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
I've been reporting from here for over ten years, and I've seen how | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
the escalation of terrorist violence is threatening the whole city. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Now I want to see how the police are responding. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
I arrived in Karachi this morning | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
and already there's been news of a police officer murdered | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
in a suspected Taliban attack. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Mohammed Iqbal had been receiving death threats from militants. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
He was gunned down in a drive-by shooting | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
just before dawn at the end of a 14-hour shift. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
With so many police here, the funeral prayers themselves are a target. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
The fightback is led by the police, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
who've become known as the Taliban hunters. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
With a force of just 15,000 officers, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
they police a city of 24 million people. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
And they've lost 156 of their colleagues in just one year | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
in the fight against the Taliban. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Specialist Superintendent Ijaz heads this branch of the Taliban hunters | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
and plans anti-terrorist raids from his base in central Karachi. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
His team monitor militant activity | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
across the city from this surveillance centre. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Could you point out the areas where the Taliban has a strong presence? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
Urangi, Baldir, Saeedabad, these areas, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
then we have Surjani, we have Sarabghot area, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
so basically the slums are encircling the city. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
And these slums, they are very dangerous. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
It's from the slums that the Taliban organise their attacks. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
Officer Ijaz shows me shocking footage | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
of the Taliban's campaign of terror. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
These indiscriminate violent attacks keep Karachi's citizens | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
living in a constant state of fear. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
But it's target killings or assassinations | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
that are the Taliban's most common tool of terror, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
with almost 200 reported last year. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Here, the officer shows me CCTV footage of two Shia preachers | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
being gunned down by Taliban members on motorbikes. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Police, journalists | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
and anyone opposing Taliban ideology is a potential target. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Another attack. This gunman strikes and drives away unchallenged. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
On average, ten people die from violence in Karachi every day, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
many of them at the hands of the Taliban. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Yet Ijaz's men are ill-equipped to fight an enemy with growing power. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
They are fighting a full-fledged war. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
So they are not equipped and they are not trained for it yet. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
They were trained for traditional policing, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
but it is not traditional policing. They are fighting terrorism. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Inadequate funding means the Taliban hunters on the ground | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
have no special training and lack basic equipment. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Many officers carry ageing weapons | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
and others work sometimes without essentials, like bulletproof vests. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
Ahmed Rashid is one of Pakistan's most respected experts on militancy. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
He lectures on terrorism at universities around the world. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
First of all, there are far too few policemen in a city | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
like Karachi to deal with the situation. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
You know, the numbers are appalling. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
The police is hugely underfunded, underpaid, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
lacking proper education, equipment. I mean, it's very, very sad. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
It's estimated that robberies cost Karachi | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
millions of dollars every day. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
The Taliban is behind much of this, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
having forced previously powerful organised gangs | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
out of their territory. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
Are the Taliban using Karachi as a kind of cash cow? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
With kidnapping, crime, bank robberies, fundraising, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
they carried on their Taliban activity in Karachi. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
The Taliban hunters have been tipped off | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
about two suspected militants thought to be planning an attack. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
They've been planning this raid for four weeks. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
From the moment they leave their compound, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
they know they're vulnerable to Taliban lookouts and informants. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
The Pakistani Taliban or TTP, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
have taken control of much of the territory | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
on the outskirts of Karachi in recent years. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
The team is heading into one of the most notorious slums, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Ittehad town, a TTP strong hold. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
As we enter Ittehad town in the early hours of the morning, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
the streets are empty. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
The final approach towards the target house has to be on foot. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
The lights are turned off and the team creep forward | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
with a night-vision camera. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
Taliban watchmen have been known to sound an alarm | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
as a call to arms for local comrades, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
who then flood the area to attack police. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
If spotted, the team will only have moments to leave the area. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
No-one knows how many Talibs are inside and who could be watching. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
With everyone in place, Officer Ijaz gives the signal. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
GUNSHOT | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
The suspects open fire. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
GUNSHOT | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
SHOUTING | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
GUNSHOT | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
SHOUTING | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
The men are disarmed, their weapons seized. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
The priority now is getting out of the slum. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
ALARM RINGS | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
As soon as we got in there, there was the sound of a kind of an alarm | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
and a few of the officers told me | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
that these Taliban members sound the alarm | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
to tell people in the area that the police are here. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
That's why we have to make a quick exit right now. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
We have to get out of the area. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Sometimes there is resistance from the local public. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
We've managed well. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:08 | |
We were very brief and very quick. So that ended well. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
-It could have got really dangerous if we'd stayed any longer? -Yes, exactly. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Going into the area, that's not dangerous. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Leaving the area is always full of...risks. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
Because then they are alarmed, everybody knows. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
They might try to ambush the motorcade | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
if those guys are really important for them. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
They will try to get them released from police custody. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
The squad believe the suspects were in the final stages of planning | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
to kidnap a prominent businessman, who they'd been shadowing in Karachi. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
They'll be left in their cells for the next five days. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Officer Ijaz says the silence makes prisoners more eager to talk. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
But with every arrest comes the renewed risk of a revenge attack. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
A regular visit to the graveside of his former boss | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
provides a stark reminder that even the most senior officer | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
can be killed by the Taliban. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
He was a hero and he was a hero of Karachi police, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
and as far as the dangers or risks or hazards of this job | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
are concerned, myself, my fellow colleagues, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
they are working day in and day out to eradicate this terrorism. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
Officer Ijaz had been a close friend. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
After the murder, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
it was he who became the new face of the Taliban hunters. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
He's a prominent target, and the Taliban can strike at any time. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
On constant watch is Officer Akbar, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
who sees it as his personal duty to keep the boss alive. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
In the five years he's been in the force, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Akbar has got used to the threat from the Taliban. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
For over a decade, the Taliban | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
and its affiliate groups have waged war on the Pakistani people. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
But until recently, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
the militants were largely based in rural areas in the north. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
Last summer, the government began its most far-reaching | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
anti-Taliban operation to date, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
the army forcing them out of their stronghold in North Waziristan. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
By the spring of 2015, the government was claiming victory, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
but the military campaign had simply shifted the geography of war. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
The movement of terrorists southwards meant that Pakistan cities | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
were the Taliban's major targets, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
with Karachi the greatest prize of all. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
The Taliban suspects captured in the raid have now been | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
held in silence for two days. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Whenever they are in police custody, within 24 hours or 48 hours, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
they lose their psychological strength. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Karachi police have been accused of physical mistreatment | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
and even torture of prisoners. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
A 2014 Human Rights Watch report | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
also said there had been extra-judicial killings | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
and mystery disappearances of terrorist suspects. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
But Officer Ijaz insists that his men employ nothing more than, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
as he puts it, a little arm-twisting. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
But is it an effective method of extracting information, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
as you put it, "arm-twisting"? | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
Can you get reliable evidence that way? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
You must understand this. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
They are hardened criminals, they are hard-core extremists. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
You cannot offer them a bouquet, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
you cannot offer them a chocolate to get information out of them. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
It's clear to me that there's some indifference | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
to the human rights of suspects here. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Perhaps a response to the constant threat of revenge attacks | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
against the police and their families. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Officer Ijaz is one of the Taliban's top targets. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
The family home must be guarded 24 hours a day. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
You have armed guards outside, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
so your kids must see these armed men with guns. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Are they aware of the work that you do? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Yeah, they are aware of the work, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
like they know that I'm a police officer. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
From the day, when they were born, they were living with these gunmen, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
so they can't tell me the difference. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
But the constant danger to their children | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
is forcing his wife to reconsider their future. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
We are seriously thinking to leave this Karachi place. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
If Ijaz is not leaving it, at least I would be thinking to leave it | 0:18:09 | 0:18:15 | |
within six to seven months because it's pretty unsafe for me. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
So, basically, Officer Ijaz would stay working here | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
-and you'd move to another city? -Yeah, probably, probably. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
It's not only police and their families that are targets. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Business owners, politicians, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
in fact, anyone with obvious wealth is at risk. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
This video was sent to the family of a local businessman. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Karim - not his real name - was kidnapped by the Taliban. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
He was ultimately rescued from his kidnappers, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
but his family have asked that we conceal his identity. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
It was just another morning in Karachi's business district, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
but on this day, the Taliban lay in wait. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
Here, if you can see, this is the white Corolla, this is arriving, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
this is the factory gate. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
-OK, so, he's arriving for work? -He is arriving. This was in the morning. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
These two guys were standing here. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
And as soon as he stopped the car, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
there is one guy towards the driving seat. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
This guy snatched the keys from the driver. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
And as soon as they drag him out, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
they placed him inside the car and sped away. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
After a month in captivity, Karim was freed during a police shoot out. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
His kidnappers are still awaiting trial. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
The latest available statistics | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
show that 132 cases of kidnapping were reported in Karachi in 2014. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
With an estimated 4 million handed over in ransom money to the Taliban. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
The kidnappers have little to fear from the courts, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
even if they're charged. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Recently released figures show that, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
of 115 cases of kidnap over a 12-month period, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
there wasn't a single conviction. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
At the time of filming, of 286 suspected Taliban members | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
behind bars in the city's main prison, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
just three had been convicted. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I think the reason that the judiciary has really failed | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
over these last ten years is because they're scared. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
I mean, we have had numerous lawyers, judges, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
defence counsels, witnesses being killed by the militants, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
so you get kidnappings taking place, shootings taking place, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
and generally I think there is an air of terror. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
At his office in Karachi, Provincial Minister Sharjeel Memon | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
admits the current legal system is failing. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
Our present judicial system is too slow and the way the cases are... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
linger on for years and years. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Attacks in major cities have meant mounting pressure for reform. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
The government's response | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
has been the introduction of anti-terrorism courts, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
with the aim of fast-tracking trials. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
We have formed military courts. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
For those terrorists from Taliban, Al-Qaeda... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
Are you aware of the conviction rates within those courts? | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
I think that there is some betterment in the system. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
There is an improvement, but actually they are under 6%. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
It's under 6% conviction rate. Is that acceptable? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Obviously, these special courts formed one year ago | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
and things need to... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
We want to bring a change, so it needs some time. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
The justice system was thrust into the spotlight | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
after last year's attack on a school in Peshawar. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
133 children were killed in the massacre at the Army Public School. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
Peace rallies were held in every Pakistani town, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
with the public demanding that more be done to stop the terror. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
In response, the government lifted the moratorium on the death penalty, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
but little else has changed. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
Nothing since the Peshawar killings of those students has been done | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
to actually reform, strengthen, modify the judicial system. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:03 | |
We've had a lot of Draconian laws passed, that you will be hanged | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
for terrorism on the slightest suspicion, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
that you're guilty until you can prove you are innocent. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
But we have - I mean, you know, these are Draconian laws that have | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
nothing to do with reforming the judicial system. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
I'm on my way back to the police compound. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
I've heard there have been more raids today | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
and five militants have been shot in a gun battle. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
We discover there've been some more arrests, too. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
WAILING | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
I got to the compound about ten minutes ago | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
and, as soon as I got here, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
I could hear screaming from the interrogation area down there. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
You can see two suspects that are up against the wall right now. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
Every time I've asked Officer Ijaz about what he calls "arm-twisting", | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
he's avoided the question. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
I'm told I can talk to the two Taliban suspects | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
who were arrested on the raid two days earlier. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
The police insisted on parading them into the room | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
with their heads covered. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
They require me to conduct my interview | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
with the suspects' identities concealed. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
They say it's for the prisoners' safety, as well as their own. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
I have no way of knowing | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
how the suspects have been treated by the police. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
They tell me they are proud Taliban members | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
and they're apparently eager to talk. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
I need to ask you something, Officer Ijaz. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
When I arrived at the compound, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
I did hear some screaming from one of the interrogation rooms. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
You've told me in the past, you've referenced | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
this kind of arm-twisting techniques that you use. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
What techniques do you use? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
We don't do this. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Because... Not exactly. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Torture is not a solution to the problem, actually. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
We can... We can... | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
If we... If at all we beat them, we can get whatever we want to. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
But that is not true. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
Basically, we try to a little bit pressurise them or... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
they are hardened criminals, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
sometimes we threaten them of dire consequences. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
We have to ask them in a harsh manner, obviously. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Officer Ijaz's uncomfortable response may be open to interpretation. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
But it's clear he's frustrated by a judicial system | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
that results in very few convictions for terrorism. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Despite their claim of multiple murders, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
these suspects may never face trial. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
The threat from militants is now the single most pressing issue | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
for Pakistanis struggling to maintain some sense of normality | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
in their daily lives. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
A paramilitary force, the rangers, have now joined the fightback | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
but, just last month, two police officers were killed | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
during an anti-terrorist shoot out. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Pakistan remain vulnerable to the Taliban, who are ever-willing | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
to take their war into Pakistan's cities, airports and schools. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
Police alone cannot do this job. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
If we are strong enough, we will just wipe them out from Karachi | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
and then there will be no threat to police officers. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Obviously, we feel vulnerable sometimes, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
but that's not the point. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
We have to fight it. There is no other way. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
We just can't leave the battlefield and run away. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 |