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Tonight on Panorama: Exclusive access to patients pioneering a

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radical treatment for an incurable disease. I just melted. My body was

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just unable to get across the road and I just slumped onto the floor.

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Multiple sclerosis affects 100,000 people in the UK, most of them

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diagnosed in their 20s and 30s. This all happened within a couple of

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months. I had to get a wheelchair, couldn't cook, couldn't dress

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myself. It's just scary because you think, well, when is it going to

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end? Now there's hope that a bone marrow stem cell transplant, usually

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given to cancer patients, could stop MS in its tracks, preventing

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lifelong disability. To live without that burden is going to be the

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biggest release for me and the freedom for me and that, you can't

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get any better than that. I hope I get the blue kayak. Blue one? Steven

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Storey was diagnosed with MS two years ago. In that time, he's gone

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from being a marathon runner to losing the use of his legs. Let's

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see how well we can wheelchair across this gravel. Before MS life

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was fantastic. I used to do lots of sport, triathlon, mountain

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marathons, cycling. I did a lot of climbing. I spent a lot of time with

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the kids and doing lots of those things with them as well. Now he's

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back kayaking with his daughters for the first time since his diagnosis.

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It's really fun, yeah. I'm enjoying it. It's like what we used to do.

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It's bringing back a lot of memories from before. There's lots of

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adventures, we've just got to redefine what those adventures afr.

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Whatever your condition, there's always things you can do. Steven

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hopes we will way one walk again. He's part a group of MS patients in

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Sheffield undergoing a cancer treatment at the -- at the Royal

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Hallamshire Hospital. Paul Kirkham is one of 100 people a week in the

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UK diagnosed with MS. I was one of the most active person. The last

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three months, since I've had a relapse, I've not been out of the

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house to be honest. He's being assessed by neurologist Professor

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Basil Sharrack in the hospital of starting the intensive stem cell

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treatment. Step forward. OK, I'd like to see how stable you are.

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Stand there. I'd like to walk heel to toe like that. That's a bit

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difficult. It is, yeah. That's fine. We're done. What I've noticed it's

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them toes here. I feel like them ones are

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them toes here. I feel like them walking about with blocks of

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your feet. That's because of the inflammation in the pile

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your feet. That's because of the affecting the ability of these

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nerves to transmit normal sensation up to your brain. That will give you

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the feeling of your toes not feeling normal. MS occurs when the immune

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system mistakenly attacks the protective insulation around nerve

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fibres in the brain and spinal cord, causing inflammation. Just as a

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frayed electrical wire short circuits, the nerve fibres

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malfunction. This causes a huge range of symptoms, from fatigue and

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pain, to balance and walking problems and sometimes permanent

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disability. For 13 years, Paul's MS was mild. But the disease recently

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became aggressive, forcing him to stop work.

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Even going back to work, I'd well, I'd love to do that I'd go back to

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work and crack on with my life. This has only happened in the last three

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month, prior to that, you could go for a walk, take the dog, probably a

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couple of miles. Can't manage it, can you? I'm struggling, really

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struggling, aren't I? Yeah. Despite Paul's MS, the family used to enjoy

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all kinds of sports together, but now skiing is no longer possible. I

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cannot believe that were a year-and-a-half ago. I were doing

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that. Now look at me. I'm a bit gutted we didn't go this year. But

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hopefully we'll be there next year. Should be a lot of us. It should be

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good. There you are. Just going over some jumps. Professor John Snowden,

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a specialist in treating blood cancers, hopes to fix Paul's immune

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system with a standard treatment in his field, a bone marrow transplant.

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We would hope to rebuild your immune system in a slightly different way.

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It will still be your own immune system. It's not actually a true

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transplant, because it's going to be stem cells from yourself. In effect

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an immune system that's been reset or rebooted back to a time point

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before it caused MS, This reboot of the immune system uses the patient's

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own stem cells, found in their bone marrow. These cells are at such an

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early stage they've not developed the flaws that trigger MS. But the

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transplant is an arduous treatment. We have to mention that occasionally

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some people have quite a difficult time with this type of treatment,

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because it does involve intensive chemotherapy and transplant

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procedure. Hey up, mum. Hello, love. You all right? I am now. I've been

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thinking about you all day. I'm on chemo now. All right dad? Lovely.

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How do you feel coming in and seeing Paul today? A bit emotional. But

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we're positive, aren't we? He's the youngest, yeah, he's me baby. You

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don't expect anything like this to happen to them. I know that he's

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been really poorly. He's tried toe put a brave face on, haven't you?

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And he's been a bit depressed, haven't you? He's not been able to

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work and he's always been a worker. Loves his job. He loves his

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children. Paul's first dose of chemotherapy, which is combined with

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growth hormones, is designed to flush out stem cells from his bone

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marrow. Had a bit of a rough night. But got about four hours sleep. Felt

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a bit sick in the night, but they seem to think that might go, but

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we'll see. A week later, the drugs have done their work. The stem cells

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have left the bone marrow and are now circulating in his blood, ready

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to be harvested. They're going to start sieving the stem cells out of

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me body. It's amazing what they can do. You all right with needles?

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You're not a fainter? No, I'm not. I've been like a hedgehog the last

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few days, with the amount I've had in me! Feeling all right? I feel a

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bit hot headed. Get me fan. Blood is taken out of one arm and the stem

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cells skimmed off and collected whilst in Paul's other arm, the rest

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of the blood is returned. Have you come to look at me stem cells. Can

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you see them? That's it there. That bag to the right, that's me stem

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cells. The one to the right is the plasma.

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Say bye to your cells. That's the size of the potato we've got for

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tea. Give over! There'll be other ones. Louise Barritt lives with her

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fiance, Steve and her son Owen. Like more than eight in ten MS patients,

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Louise has the relapsing remitting form of the disease, which this

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therapy hopes to treat. It means she suffers acute attacks, relapses, but

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with periods of recovery in between.er It's got worse this year,

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since I've had the relapse. MS takes its toll not just on her body, but

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her mind. The biggest thing is the fatigue and just feeling absolutely

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exhausted and not just feeling tired, but it's the brain fog and

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the inability to concentrate and follow conversations and make

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decisions. Louise has already started her stem cell treatment at

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the royal Hallamshire. My mum, she has relapses, like and she sometimes

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has like her hands go all pins and needles because she's got MS. And

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they're trying to put, well, make it better. Her stem cells have been

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harvested, so Louise is about to go back into hospital, where she'll be

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kept in isolation to prevent infection while doctors first dleet

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and then reboot her immune system. -- deleet. -- delete. She might feel

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a bit, probably nervous. But she might feel happy that she's having

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it. But I know it might not work, but hopefully it does. Owen won't be

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able to visit his mum for several weeks during this second phase of

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the treatment. That's going to be the tough thing through all this

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really. Because he's only ten. He's never really been apart from me. I

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don't think he quite understands what they're fixing.

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Louise doesn't have cancer but is about to start aggressive

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chemotherapy and knows it will have side effects. With everything else

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going on with the treatment, I want this to be one of the easy things

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I've got to deal with. Before I cut all my hair off, I spent a long,

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long time growing my hair, so I'm very attached to it, it's actually

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quite a big deal for it all to go. So, yeah, I'm trying to make it as

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easy as possible really. Louise is now in isolation. She's had her

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chemo and has reached a critical day in her treatment. You've got a

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calendar with all the days crossed off? Yeah. There's the freedom

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crossed off in green tick there's. That's today up there? Yeah. This is

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what we call today, day zero, transplant day. Inside this tank,

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stored in liquid nitrogen, are the stem cells that could transform her

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health, hopefully rebuilding her immune system free of MS. And the

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lovely Louise is due her stem cells today, on the 13th. She's had all

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her chemotherapy over the weekend. We're good to go. Snap, crackle and

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pop! Just two bags containing two cupfuls of Louise's own stem cells

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are all it takes to re-Kindle her immune system. It just takes a few

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minutes to do. So the volumes are not too big actually, so they should

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only take about ten minutes to go in. For nurses treating cancer, this

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is routine practice. What happens to these cells is they hover around in

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your circulating blood system for three or four days am then they have

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like a homing mechanism on them and they migrate into the marrow. The

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things are that going to rescue me. More tan 100 patients are relapsing

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remitting MS are being recruited in four cities - Sheffield, Chicago,

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Stockholm and Sao Paulo, to a major trial, which will report in a couple

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of years and could establish this as a mainstream treatment. It's such a

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small procedure really, just putting it back into me body and that's it.

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We're just waiting then for the stem cells to do their work. For Paul,

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it's also day zero. Like Louise, his stem cells are being transplanted.

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Once they're established, both can go home.

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How you doing kid, you all right? Steven is back on this ward for the

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first time since his transplant. What gets me is there's no

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guarantees. They won't tell you how you're going to be, which I

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understand they don't know fully do they. Of course, no. You know what I

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mean? Whether I'll make 100% recovery, I don't know. I'm getting

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rebooted aren't I? Exactly, that's the whole point. People what

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understand computers and that, you know what reboot it. Exactly, just

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turn it off and restart it. It just reboots the system. That's what

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Steven used to compete in It's just absolutely staggering.

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Steven used to compete in triathlons. But then, out of the

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blue, MS struck him down. I was crossing a road. I did not fall, I

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just melted. My body was unable to get across the road and I slumped

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onto the floor. Somebody came over to help me and the next day I came

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into the hospital. Within nine months, Steven's condition had

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deteriorated to the point where he needed 24-hour acute care. Where you

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bad when you came onto the second phase? Yes. At your stage now I was

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completely paralysed, unable to even move might hope, unable to do

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anything. There is a point in your spinal-cord called T10. From there

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down I had zero muscle sensation and zero muscle flicker.

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I had a feeling it would be the rest of my life like that. I had a

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conversation with my kids about mortality. The prognosis could well

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have been continuing the speed of the decline, risperidone failure,

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intensive care, we almost that ends. Almost immediately, the treatment

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allowed his nervous system to start to recover. From day zero, the day

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you get your transplant, within nine days I could flicker my toe. It felt

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pretty good. I could flicker my toe. I spoke to the girls on Skype and I

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think they dropped their tablet. They were not expecting that at all.

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In the middle of his treatment, I am thinking, I will try my best,

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whatever I can do, I pushed myself as hard as I can. When I was in this

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room I made a commitment to myself, that if I ever got back to being

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able to do something, I made a bucket list of various things I

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wanted to do when I got out. One of the things was within a year I

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wanted to take part in another event.

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Just ten months later, Steven completed a mile long swim in the

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Lake District. People often come up to you and say, are you locate? No

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one was doing that. If you are wearing a wet suit ready to do a

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race, you don't need any help, just crack on. It was great. I felt I was

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back. Well done! CHEERING

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But for Steven, the treatment came only after MS had done severe damage

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to his nervous system, so there may be limits to his recovery.

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That is one foot there. Try and get both feet on the floor first. We are

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on! So this is something that you did not have the balance to do

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before? No. Because of all the cycling and sport that I have done,

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the muscle memory has come back pretty quickly. There seems to be a

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natural feeling for it. But you have not had the bike out yet? No. I have

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spoken to a few people about doing it, but I don't think my balance is

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good enough yet. OK. I know what Steven's ultimate

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aims are. They are big games involving running and cycling and

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swimming and so on. I have always been a big goal driven guy. Emma has

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identified that pretty well. I guess and aim for me would be for Steven

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to be walking more than he is using the chair. That is it initially.

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But if relapsing remitting MS is caught in time, could it be stopped

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in its tracks? Holly Drewery was just 21 when she was diagnosed.

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After giving birth to her daughter, Holly's condition deteriorated

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quickly. I couldn't walk steadily. I did not trust myself holding her in

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case I had a fall. I was a new mum and I wanted to do it all properly.

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The MS was stopping me from being able to do it. This all happened

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within a couple of months and then I had to get a wheelchair. I got worse

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and worse. I could not wash myself, I couldn't dress myself. It was

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scary because I thought, where is it going to end? Standard drug and

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blood treatments had failed for Holly. When I was in the hospital

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having the plasma exchange, Professor Sharrack said there is the

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stem cell option. The treatment costs ?30,000, no more than the

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yearly cost of some MS treatments which need to be taken for life.

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This is you when you were tiny. Holly had the experimental

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transplant and for her, the improvements were astonishing. I

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started seeing changes within days of the stem cells being put back in.

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I walked out of hospital, I walked into the house and cuddled Isla. I

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just cried. I just cried and hugged Isla. It was all a bit overwhelming.

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Was it all just a dream but I have done? Has the past month or so been

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a complete dream? Yes, a miracle. A miracle. It is now two years since

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Holly's stem cell transplants, and she has come back to review her

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progress. I will just show you this one. This was a scan we did in 2013.

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That was when you were about to have your treatment. Left untreated,

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areas of active inflammation would cause permanent damage. But now,

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they have all but disappeared. The good news, that is when we go to the

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last scan, this is the scan which was done a few days ago. You see all

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these little scars. You don't really see any evidence of disease which is

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really good news. Really, this is an indication that your MS is being

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quite dormant and you have not suffered further relapses. Yes.

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Hello! Holly's MS has been dramatically

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halted. She will need to be monitored for years but the hope is

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the transplant will be a permanent fix. When I was doing my training we

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had treatment for multiple sclerosis. To have a treatment which

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can potentially halt the diseases a good treatment. Louise needs to

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remain in isolation after having received her stem cells. She has

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used the time to plan for the future. We have decided to get

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married in a year off my transplant birthday, which is the 13th of

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October. And we have decided to get married in the village where we had

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our very first date. To see that transition from where she was to

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wear she is going is great. I think that first birthday for me, I will

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have got overall the hair loss, started to rebuild my life, and I

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will feel the full benefit of the transplant. After 18 days, Louise

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finally leaves the isolation unit. Look at you! You have changed. You

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look grown-up. I am not! You do, your hair has changed and everything

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and you are wearing your grown-up jumper! Give me a couple. -- give me

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a cuddle. I have missed you. Poll is back home, 12 days after his

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transplant. Are we going for a walk? That will get you excited, mate,

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won't it?? I will bang kettle on. I have noticed improvements in that.

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If I get to 100% improvement and recovery, I will be saying it is

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great, the best thing in the world. When I was having the treatment, it

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is quite intense and it does not queue. I would rather have done ten

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rounds with Mike Tyson than go through that. But I have done it.

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Ideally what the differences, you want to do a bit of walking. Before

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it was like, you know. You are walking a little bit better. It is a

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lot more effortless now. This is indeed a very potent

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treatment and time will tell whether it is a cure or not. We need to have

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longer-term follow-up which perhaps goes into decades before we can say

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cure. Here is to be year of dad being out

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of chemotherapy and being well and healthy and being a good dad. Steven

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has reached his first transplant birthday. He is out celebrating with

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his daughters. Cheers to that. A year ago I could

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not even hold a fork, I could not eat.

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Do you remember? Lets crack on. Stem cell

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transplantation for MS is experimental and the long-term

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results are unproven. But if the international trial, which Sheffield

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is a part of, is a success, then many more patients might be offered

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it in years to come. The day you get the stem cell jazz fusion is called

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Day zero. That was the previous part of your life. This is now days zero

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for the rest of your life -- the stem cell transfusion.

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I was in a very dire place, through 365 days of this pioneering

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treatment, to get from that point to being here, words cannot describe

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it. Good afternoon, Basil. Good

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afternoon. Hello, John. I will sit down there. This is marvellous. One

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year since your transplant. The last time you came in, you came in a

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wheelchair. You walked in today. Steven is showing the results of his

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most recent scan. You look hard and you see nothing. Really? You have

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walked in and this is mirrored by the scar not showing evidence of the

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disease. That is good to hear. I suppose you have heard about my

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surprise in the last few weeks as well. I was out with the girls and

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there was a cycle hire place. I went to speak to the guys who put the

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saddle on the lowest level, so I could stand on the bike without

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having to balance and I just pushed off. The first couple of feet were

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wobbly and really hard to get my balance. Go on, pedal, pedal, pedal!

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Within ten feet, my balance had recovered and I cycled all around

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the park. Cycling is something I can now do. I can swim, now cycle and

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hopefully walking is the next big step.

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