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In 1978, a Polish cardinal was elected the first | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
non-Italian pope for nearly half a millennium. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Pope John Paul II ruled the Catholic Church for 27 years. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
It's a Church which requires its priests to be celibate | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
and he took a tough traditional line on marriage and divorce. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
But he had a private side. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
"I think it's good you sent your letter by hand. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
"It contains things too deep for the censor's eyes." | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
The Pope was writing to a married woman. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
They were close for more than three decades | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
yet the extent of her role in the life | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
of one of the most famous men in history has remained largely hidden. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
I do believe she completely fell in love with him. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Tonight, for the first time, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
Panorama reveals the hundreds of letters and photos | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
that tell the story of John Paul's closeness | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
with Anna-Teresa Tymieniecka. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
The scoop of the century! | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
Here is one of the handful of transcendentally great figures | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
in public life in the 20th century, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
the head of the Catholic Church, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
in an intense relationship with an attractive woman. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Wow! | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
The letters have been hidden away in a Polish archive for years | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
and part of the story is still being covered up. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Her disappearance from the scene is almost like a...you know, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
a Soviet-style, you know, rubbing individuals out of the photograph. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
It really is quite extraordinary. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
This woman's story is one that you might never have been told. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
They were married in the mid-'50s in California. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
It's wonderfully characteristic of the date, isn't it? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
-Yes, it is, it is. -Stunning wedding dress. -Yes, yes. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
-And he's wearing a bow tie, isn't he? Yes, he is. -Yes. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Professor Anna-Teresa Tymieniecka was a writer and philosopher. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
She grew up in Poland but emigrated to the United States, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
where she married and had three children. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
'She died two years ago. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
'The Smiths became her firm friends and are her executors.' | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Our first impressions were that she was a towering intellectual. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
She considered herself a very important philosopher. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
There were very few women in the field of philosophy. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
-And she was used to getting her own way? -She was. -Yes. -She was. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
There's no doubt about that. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
In 1973, she wrote to this man, Cardinal Karol Wojtyla, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
then Archbishop of the Polish city of Krakow, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
and later to become Pope John Paul II. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
She admired a book of philosophy he'd written, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
so she took off to Poland to meet him. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
I'm still struck by... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:57 | |
It was quite a thing, wasn't it, I mean, to get on a plane? | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-Was that...? -That was not unusual for her... -Not at all. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
..to get on a plane and do something like this. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
This was part of her character. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
That's the way she tackled everything. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
That trip was the beginning of a relationship which | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
lasted for more than 30 years. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
The story is told in a huge cache of letters John Paul sent to her. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
They've never been seen publically before. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
This is a picture that she had, near her bed, of Cardinal Wojtyla. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
In 2008, Anna-Teresa decided to sell the letters, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and they were bought by the National Library of Poland for what | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
we think was a seven-figure sum. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Usually, when a library buys a really important archive | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
about a figure of John Paul's stature, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
you'd expect a bit of a fanfare and the letters would be | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
put on display and made available to scholars. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
These simply disappeared and it took months - years, indeed - | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
of digging around to track them down. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
And if we hadn't knocked on the door of Poland's National Library | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
and negotiated to see them, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
they might have stayed hidden for many years to come. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
The letters from Cardinal Wojtyla begin on a formal note. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
"Dear and esteemed professor, thank you very much for the article | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
"The Three Dimensions Of Phenomenology." | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
But the following year, when he wrote to her from Rome, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
he dropped her formal title and reversed her name. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
"Droga Tereso-Anno... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
"Dear Teresa-Anna, I would like to respond to four letters that | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
"I received in July. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
"I have kept them and brought them with me to Rome. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
"I am reading them again as they are so meaningful and deeply personal." | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Eugene Kisluk is a New York-based consultant who | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
advised on the sale of the letters. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
It is the first informal letter that he wrote to her. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
There's certainly intimacy established here in this letter. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
The tone of the letters change depending on where | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
they were written. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Any letter Cardinal Wojtyla sent from Krakow was likely to | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
be read by the secret police. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
1970s Poland was a Communist state and the Church was the enemy. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
-TRANSLATION: -His every step was watched. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
They installed wiretaps in his flat and his telephone was bugged. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Every letter he received was intercepted and checked, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
both private and official. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
So, some of the letters were delivered by hand, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
often by the nuns who worked for the Cardinal. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
He and Anna-Teresa agreed to work together on a new expanded | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
version of his book. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
They met several times a year | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
and their correspondence became frequent. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Sometimes, they wrote just after seeing each other. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
"I was very happy to see you yesterday... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
"I'd like to talk to you tomorrow, November 6th, at 4.30pm... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
"It's good we could talk on the phone before you went to America... | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
"Despite the distance, it's a conversation... | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
"PS, thank you very much for yesterday." | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Their relationship was on two planes. One was intellectual. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
The other one was personal and very emotional. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
They became very close to each other on both levels, in fact. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:20 | |
And it was also very difficult for them to separate the two. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Of course, the library only showed me his letters to her. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
I haven't seen Anna-Teresa's letters and reading Karol Wojtyla's | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
on their own is a bit like reading a novel with half the pages torn out. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
But I do understand that, in the summer of 1975, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
so almost exactly two years after they first met, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
Anna-Teresa sat down on a park bench by the city walls of Krakow | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
and wrote what one can really only describe as a love letter. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
She said that she desired to be in his arms | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
and remain there in happiness. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
And she apologised for the fact that she had not yet managed to | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
control her feelings and that yet, of course, is important | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
because it means that the matter had been discussed before. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
The library denies the letter exists, but his subsequent letters | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
show a struggle to keep the relationship in Christian bounds. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
The Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein got some | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
sense of Anna-Teresa's importance in Karol Wojtyla's life | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
when he interviewed her in the 1990s. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
But she batted one of his questions away. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I finally said, "Were you in love with the Cardinal?" | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
She said, "No, I never fell in love with the Cardinal. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
"To fall in love with a clergyman - there could be no success at all!" | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
And I said, "No romantic feelings?" | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
She said, "This question - it doesn't really apply. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
"How can you ask me such a silly question?" | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
The evidence we have now from the archive shows it was anything | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
but a silly question. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
I do believe she completely fell in love with him | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
during the first phase of their relationship. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
I think that it's completely reflected in the correspondence. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Marsha Malinowski negotiated the sale of the letters. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
For her to fall in love with him is completely understandable to me. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
He was handsome, he was powerful, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
he was on a track that was extraordinary, he was Polish. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
How could you not be taken with all that charm in one person? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
Karol Wojtyla had mixed freely with women as a teenager and a young man. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
He'd also formed a friendship with a psychiatrist called | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Wanda Poltawska, whom he wrote to often until his death. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
But the training for Catholic clergy when he became a priest was rigid. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
A perception was that even if you had a close association, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
a friendship, with a woman, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
this could be what was known as an "occasion of sin". | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
And an occasion of sin was as bad as if you had actually done it. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:02 | |
That training meant most priests would have been wary of such | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
a close relationship. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
The most natural reaction would have been for him | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
to terminate contact because, after all, the positions that they | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
were in, he was a prince of the Church, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
someone that took vows of celibacy, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
and someone in his position would probably just withdraw completely. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
He didn't. Instead, he later wrote to her, "God gave you to me | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
"and made you my vocation." And he let their friendship grow. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
He invited Anna-Teresa to join him on country walks or | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
skiing holidays, all documented in the new photos we've been given. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Clearly, there's an element of playing with fire | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
when you've got a strongly heterosexual man | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
and an attractive woman in a very intense relationship | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
that is cultivated | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and which engages mind at a high level of intensity. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
There's danger everywhere. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
There's nothing in the letters to suggest that Cardinal Wojtyla | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
ever broke his vow of celibacy. He was a man known for his iron will. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
But it's also clear he wanted to keep the relationship going. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
It's quite fragile. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
'We've discovered he gave Anna-Teresa | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
'one of his most treasured possessions...' | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
I suppose it's a holy relic. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
It is absolutely a holy relic. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
'..an item of devotional clothing known as a scapular.' | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-And it's Our Lady, isn't it? -Yes, it is. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
It has to be one of the only true possessions the Cardinal had | 0:10:39 | 0:10:45 | |
to give away. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
'He'd been given it by his father, who died when Karol Wojtyla was 20.' | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
Thousands, possibly millions, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
of Catholics over the centuries wore it. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
I did myself when I was a teenager in Ireland. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
Obviously, for Wojtyla, it's associated with his father. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
It's a garment he wore next to the skin, under his clothing, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
so it's a very intimate gesture. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
The gift puts the strength of his attachment to | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Anna-Teresa beyond doubt. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Over the years, he mentions the scapular ten times. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
"Last year, I was trying to find an answer to the words | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
"'I belong to you.' | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
"Finally, before leaving Poland, I found a way - a scapular." | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
He said it allowed him to... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
"..accept and feel you everywhere in all kinds of situations, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
"whether you are close or far away." | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Anna-Teresa played an important role | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
in his public as well as his private life. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
BELLS TOLL | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
In 1976, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Cardinal Wojtyla visited the United States for a Catholic conference. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
Anna-Teresa was determined to raise his profile. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Her husband, Hendrik Houthakker, was a Harvard academic | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
and had all the right political connections. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
The American cardinals Karol Wojtyla met would later help elect him pope. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
I think her impact on his career is beyond amazing. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
She was able to introduce him to all the most important people in | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
the United States, and I think that that was of enormous importance. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
Anna-Teresa invited Cardinal Wojtyla to stay with her | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
family at their country home outside a New England town called Pomfret. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
It was just the sort of outdoor life the Cardinal enjoyed. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
She told a local journalist about the visit many years afterwards. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
He was relaxing and enjoying nature. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
He was walking and sunning himself on the meadow, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
picking white berries, swimming. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
The photos we've been given suggest the future pope | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
was at his most relaxed. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
He and Anna-Teresa went walking in the woods. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
It appears she told him of her feelings again | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
because his letters afterwards suggest a man struggling | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
to make sense of what she said in Christian terms. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
"My dear Teresa, I have received all three letters... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
"You write about being torn apart | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
"but I could find no answer to these words..." | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
The letter wrestles intensely with the meaning of the relationship. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
He justifies it by telling her she's a gift from God. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
"If I didn't have this conviction, some moral certainty of grace | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
"and of acting in obedience to it, I would not dare act like this." | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
Many priests deal with celibacy by forming strong attachments to | 0:14:03 | 0:14:09 | |
women who are in some ways safe, who are in stable marriages and, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:15 | |
therefore, they're not going to ask for marriage, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
they're not going to ask that you leave the priesthood. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
But those relationships are often exploitative of the woman. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
They make excessive emotional demands on the woman | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
and they're often extremely unjust to the other partner, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
who is being deprived of that kind of intensity with their spouse. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:41 | |
The work on the book went on. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
She'd leave her family behind several times a year to see him. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
Some of his letters are full of intimacy. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
"I decided that I would only answer when I am here in Rome. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
"When I am in Krakow, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
"I cannot answer the way I want for obvious reasons. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
"This is the reason for the conciseness... | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
"Today I heard your voice when you called from Warsaw. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
"The telephone has the advantage that I can hear your voice, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
"but it doesn't last long enough, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
"so it cannot replace a letter or a real conversation." | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-ARCHIVE: -'A pope has been elected. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
'The Vatican balcony becomes the centre of attention.' | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
No-one expected a pope from outside Italy in October 1978. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Karol Wojtyla was suddenly catapulted into one | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
of the most high-profile positions in the world. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
He still found time that week to write personal letters | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
among the one to Anna-Teresa. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
"I am writing after the event so that | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
"a correspondence between us should continue... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
"I promise I will remember everything | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
"at this new stage of my journey." | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
'Anna-Teresa had something different on her mind.' | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
A telegram... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
'On the day of John Paul's election, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
'she asked her publishers to rush out the book | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
'they'd been working on.' | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
"Take immediately book in production. Introduction follows." | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
She wanted to move forward with that book, fast-forward it. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-And it's sent to her publishers in the Netherlands? -Mm-hm. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
But the Vatican mounted a legal challenge to The Acting Person, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
as the book was called. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
It wasn't just an argument about the way she'd changed it. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
It was about protecting the Pope's status. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
The notion that another person had, in fact, been | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
the author of a very important document and, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
of all persons, a woman, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
would have been quite extraordinary and unacceptable. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
The lawsuit took years and the relationship cooled. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Anna-Teresa wanted the Pope to stick up for her, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
and when he didn't, she felt betrayed. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
But even as he crisscrossed the world, he kept sending her cards | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
at Christmas, Easter and on St Teresa's Day. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
May 1981. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
John Paul is hit four times in an assassination attempt. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
-NEWSREADER: -'Shots were fired at the Pope, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
'and he's been seriously wounded.' | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
'Pope John Paul II has been shot.' | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Anna-Teresa heard the news at home, and dropped everything. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
"I am overwhelmed by sadness and anxiety, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
"and want desperately to be close to you. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
"I arrive on Saturday, and my phone number is..." | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
The letters tell us she was one of the few allowed into see John Paul | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
as he recovered from surgery. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Eventually, the old warmth returned, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
and she began visiting him again - | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
sometimes with her children, sometimes alone. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
She would be in Rome and he would call and say, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
can you come for supper? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
And the Polish nuns would prepare very good little dinners | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
in his private dining room, very simple. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
And did she feel that the Vatican resented the way she could... | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
come in and out of his life like that? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
-Yes. -I think so. Yes. Yes. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
FANFARE | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
John Paul was a famously conservative pope. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
The growing number of divorces... | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
The scourge of abortion... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
He also opposed relaxing the celibacy rule for priests. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
But we now know that he was enjoying a close companionship himself. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
As he aged, he and Anna-Teresa | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
continued to trade ideas on philosophy. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
She'd also send photos and pressed flowers | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
from her country home in Pomfret. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
More than a dozen of his letters look back to his time there in 1976. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
"I often wonder what is happening | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
"beyond the ocean in Pomfret. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
"How you live. I am thinking about you, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
"and in my thoughts I come to Pomfret every day." | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
I think he was very emotionally dependent on her, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
for a couple of reasons. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
I think his life was so isolated as he got older, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
and he was ailing. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
And there weren't really that many people who he could really talk with | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and could reminisce with. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
To feel as if he was a real human being, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
not just this pope who was in captivity. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
When people think about the celibacy of the Catholic clergy, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:30 | |
they immediately think about the sexual dimension of it. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
Priests who've discussed it with me have invariably said | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
that the issue is loneliness, the lack of relationship - | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
they NEED to love somebody. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Anna-Teresa believed her role went beyond providing emotional support. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
She was convinced she had a powerful influence on his thinking. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
When we're talking about her | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
influence on him philosophically, she says, "As I see it, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
"this pontificate is run by my ideas." | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
And she says, "Many of his other | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
"philosophical ideas of this pontificate, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
"he has been, if not inspired, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
"at least in complete agreement with me." | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
'Stanislaw Obirek is a former Jesuit priest | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
'from John Paul's home city of Krakow.' | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
It's a real paradox, isn't it? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
He related to her as an equal intellectually, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and yet, in the way he ran the Church, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
he was quite dismissive, one might almost say, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
-of the role of women. -Yes, this is very paradoxical. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
Tymieniecka was one of many women important in his life. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
I cannot understand | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
why he was so conservative | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
on the doctrinal level | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
and so human, so liberal, so open | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
on the personal level. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
-NEWSREADER: -'The Vatican has just announced the | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
'death of His Holiness...' | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
'He was 84, and his papal reign was the third-longest...' | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
John Paul II died in April 2005. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Almost immediately, the process of | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
writing Anna-Teresa out of history began. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Her friends say she was at his bedside the day before she died. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
But you won't find any mention of that | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
in the Vatican account of his last hours. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
One of the things that the Catholic Church most fears is scandal. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
The idea that the Pope had a woman friend | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
must have been appalling to his entourage, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
and I would think they would have been very glad to... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
bundle her out of sight at the first opportunity. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
As Anna-Teresa disappeared, the pressure built to give John Paul | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
an even more elevated status. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
At his funeral, thousands chanted "Santo subito" - "Sainthood now". | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
John Paul's sainthood was pushed for by this man. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz was John Paul's secretary for 40 years. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
The photos and letters show | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
he witnessed their relationship at first hand. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
But she's not mentioned at all in his biography of the Pope. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Just like John Paul, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Stanislaw Dziwisz became the Archbishop of Krakow. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
His authority, his personal stature | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
are intimately connected with | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
those of John Paul II, so he has to | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
keep this relationship going | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
in the public mind. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
He and the Polish bishops used all their clout | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
to put pressure on the Vatican. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
He said, within a year of the Pope's death, that he felt that | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
in John Paul II's case, because his sanctity was so obvious, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
that perhaps it might be possible to go straight for canonisation. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
So, it was a kind of ecclesiastical version | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
of what one might call pester power. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
The Vatican department | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
called the Congregation For The Causes Of Saints | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
decides who is a saint. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
It asks to see anything a candidate has ever written, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
public and private, to be sure of their holiness. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
The process has traditionally lasted decades, or even centuries. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
John Paul's was completed in just nine years - | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
the fastest in modern times. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Anna-Teresa sold her letters in 2008, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
when the process was well under way. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
What was that decision based on? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
She wanted to make sure that | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
there was necessary funding for her family. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
How did the Church hierarchy react? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Well, I think the Church hierarchy was quite upset. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
And she did receive a very disturbing phone call | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
from, er, one of the Pope's most ardent and closest supporters, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:42 | |
and he castigated her on the phone. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
This is someone whom she considered a friend. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
And it was, uh, it was very, very upsetting for her. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
There's a question mark over whether the letters were seen | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
by those responsible for John Paul's canonisation, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
as they certainly should have been. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Because they went straight from Anna-Teresa to the National Library | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
in Warsaw, where they were kept under lock and key. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
The Vatican was coy when we asked. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
The man in charge of the canonisation would only tell us | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
that it's up to individual Catholics | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
to decide whether to send in documents, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
and said, quote, "All our duties were done." | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
The National Library of Poland wouldn't say anything at all | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
when we asked if the letters had been sent to the Vatican. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
So there's no confirmation they were examined before he became a saint. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
I think had they been known about, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
they would have presented a problem for the canonisation process | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
and they might well have meant that it was halted. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
I don't think they'd have been a long-term barrier. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
I think they would have made a difference to the speed, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
which, in my view, was unseemly. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
The National Library of Poland | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
dispute that this was a unique relationship. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
They say it was one of many warm friendships | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
the Pope enjoyed throughout his life. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
So why, then, does one piece of this story remain buried? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
Anna-Teresa's letters to John Paul. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
I'd assumed that all of the letters in the archive | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
here in the National Library in Warsaw | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
were Karol Wojtyla's letters to Anna-Teresa Tymieniecka, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
and that hers to him would have been lost. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
But it turns out that they were, in fact, included in the archive | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
that was given to the National Library. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
In fact, she kept copies of everything she sent. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
So, what's actually over there is - or should be - | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
a full set of the correspondence, both sides of it. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Pope John Paul told Anna-Teresa | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
that parts of her letters were like pearls, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
worthy of being published. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
So, we asked - several times - to see her letters to John Paul. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
The Polish National Library bought the copyright for them, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
but won't tell us where they are, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
and threatened to sue us if we so much as quoted them. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
To criticise today Holy John Paul II | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
is almost unthinkable. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Stanislaw Obirek's experience may help explain that sensitivity. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
He was silenced by the Church in Poland | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
after he criticised John Paul mildly at the time of his death. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
Poland's newly elected government is also nationalist and pro-Catholic. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
Do you think things have changed? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
I would say yes. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
It's worse now! | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
After ten years, we have canonisation of John Paul II | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
and we have a kind of euphoria | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
around the Polish politicians. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
And most Poles are unwilling to say any critical words about him. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
We've hit a wall of silence. We wanted to know | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
exactly how much public money was spent on the letters. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
The president's office helped negotiate the purchase, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
but they didn't want to be interviewed. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
We also wanted to speak to Cardinal Dziwisz. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
He knew of the sale in 2008. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
But he wouldn't talk either. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
You can certainly understand the concern of the Church | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
at a bunch of grubby journalists like you and me | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
rooting around in this stuff. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
When Carl Bernstein interviewed Anna-Teresa 20 years ago, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
she told him she was keeping John Paul's letters to her. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
She wouldn't let him see them, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
but even then, she feared the story they tell might be lost. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
She wanted their existence known. She wanted them kept safe. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
She told me about her fears that someone would try to steal them. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I have no doubt that she would want the archive to be published one day, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
and to, uh, attract the interest of scholars and philosophers. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:52 | |
Her letters, of course, are still hidden - | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
though now there's bound to be pressure to make everything public. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
His still tell a compelling story. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
He was such an intensely vibrant human being. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
In a sense, one is rather in awe of the self-discipline | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
that he evidently brought to that relationship. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
We're talking about Saint John Paul. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
This is an extraordinary relationship. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
It is out of the ordinary, in the papal context. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
It's not illicit. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
Nonetheless, it's fascinating. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
It changes our perception of him. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Far from being written out of history, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Anna-Teresa is now rewriting it from beyond the grave. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 |