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It is the worst disaster in the history of the NHS. | 3:14:49 | 3:14:53 | |
Who's to blame? Are they stupid or just incompetent? | 3:14:53 | 3:14:57 | |
It's one or the other, isn't it? It's somebody's fault. | 3:14:57 | 3:15:00 | |
Over 2,000 have died, | 3:15:00 | 3:15:03 | |
thousands more are still suffering. | 3:15:03 | 3:15:06 | |
I was someone who looked like that classical AIDS case. | 3:15:06 | 3:15:10 | |
I looked like I really hadn't got long for this world at all. | 3:15:10 | 3:15:14 | |
The victims were all given contaminated blood products | 3:15:14 | 3:15:19 | |
more than 25 years ago. | 3:15:19 | 3:15:21 | |
We understood that there were risks. | 3:15:21 | 3:15:24 | |
What we didn't understand was the magnitude of what was about to happen. | 3:15:24 | 3:15:27 | |
At just one school for disabled children, | 3:15:27 | 3:15:31 | |
dozens were infected with lethal viruses. | 3:15:31 | 3:15:34 | |
72 people went to school, | 3:15:36 | 3:15:38 | |
left school, and died. | 3:15:38 | 3:15:41 | |
How did that happen to children? | 3:15:41 | 3:15:46 | |
Even now, new cases are still being diagnosed. | 3:15:47 | 3:15:52 | |
I get angry days and I'm frightened I'm going to die. | 3:15:52 | 3:15:54 | |
This is one of the greatest injustices our country has ever seen. | 3:15:56 | 3:16:01 | |
Thousands of lives lost, and yet, | 3:16:01 | 3:16:04 | |
the truth about it has never been told. | 3:16:04 | 3:16:07 | |
This is the story of Britain's contaminated blood disaster | 3:16:07 | 3:16:11 | |
and the search for the truth. | 3:16:11 | 3:16:14 | |
This is... This is a death sentence. | 3:16:14 | 3:16:17 | |
BIRDS CRY | 3:16:28 | 3:16:30 | |
Twice a week, Janet and Colin Smith visit their son's grave. | 3:16:32 | 3:16:36 | |
Hello, my little boy. | 3:16:39 | 3:16:40 | |
God bless. | 3:16:44 | 3:16:45 | |
Colin died in 1990, | 3:16:47 | 3:16:50 | |
he was just seven years old. | 3:16:50 | 3:16:52 | |
God, I miss him so much sometimes. | 3:16:53 | 3:16:56 | |
Some days it's really hard. | 3:16:56 | 3:16:59 | |
He could have lived a normal life, you know. | 3:17:01 | 3:17:03 | |
He was such a lovely little boy. | 3:17:05 | 3:17:08 | |
Just so unnecessary. | 3:17:10 | 3:17:11 | |
Colin was born with a bleeding disorder, haemophilia. | 3:17:13 | 3:17:17 | |
But it was the treatment he was given that ultimately killed him. | 3:17:18 | 3:17:21 | |
I didn't know that any blood products or anything like that, | 3:17:23 | 3:17:27 | |
you could just get HIV. | 3:17:27 | 3:17:29 | |
We didn't have a clue. | 3:17:29 | 3:17:30 | |
Three decades on, | 3:17:33 | 3:17:34 | |
the Smiths still want the NHS and the government held to account. | 3:17:34 | 3:17:39 | |
Just recognise it, just, you know, you murdered him. | 3:17:42 | 3:17:46 | |
I... I know that's a strong word, but that's how | 3:17:46 | 3:17:50 | |
me and all the other people with tainted blood look at it. | 3:17:50 | 3:17:54 | |
Because it's murder. It's just bloody murder. | 3:17:54 | 3:17:57 | |
-You shouldn't swear. -I know I shouldn't swear, | 3:17:57 | 3:18:00 | |
but I get angry about it because they don't take any notice. | 3:18:00 | 3:18:04 | |
But the tragedy didn't end with the deaths of patients like Colin. | 3:18:06 | 3:18:10 | |
Michelle Tolley is one of the latest victims. | 3:18:12 | 3:18:16 | |
In 2015, Michelle was working for Tesco. | 3:18:18 | 3:18:20 | |
And she'd been chosen to appear in one of the company's staff videos. | 3:18:20 | 3:18:25 | |
-Hi, I'm Ciaran. -Hi, I'm Michelle. | 3:18:25 | 3:18:27 | |
I was doing the Christmas Tesco adverts for the television. | 3:18:27 | 3:18:31 | |
Come on, let's go. | 3:18:31 | 3:18:32 | |
'And we had our own little film crew. | 3:18:32 | 3:18:35 | |
'It was after then,' | 3:18:35 | 3:18:37 | |
about a week or two, | 3:18:37 | 3:18:38 | |
that my health suddenly took a turn for the worse. | 3:18:38 | 3:18:42 | |
Michelle went to her GP and had a blood test. | 3:18:43 | 3:18:47 | |
The test was done there and then. | 3:18:47 | 3:18:49 | |
And he actually phoned me at home the next afternoon... | 3:18:49 | 3:18:53 | |
and told me... | 3:18:53 | 3:18:54 | |
..that it had come back positive. | 3:18:57 | 3:18:59 | |
And I was like, | 3:18:59 | 3:19:00 | |
"No, no, no, you're telling me I've had hepatitis C for 28 years?" | 3:19:00 | 3:19:06 | |
Growing silently, because they call it the silent killer. | 3:19:08 | 3:19:12 | |
Hepatitis C has given Michelle sclerosis of the liver, | 3:19:13 | 3:19:16 | |
which can cause cancer. | 3:19:16 | 3:19:18 | |
She is now being treated, | 3:19:18 | 3:19:20 | |
but the damage that's already been done could prove fatal. | 3:19:20 | 3:19:24 | |
You know, there's people out there that have already lost lives, | 3:19:24 | 3:19:28 | |
lost loved ones, etc, through it. | 3:19:28 | 3:19:30 | |
I can't understand why the government won't accept the responsibility. | 3:19:32 | 3:19:38 | |
And it's been allowed to go on for 40 years. | 3:19:38 | 3:19:41 | |
This is the fourth decade. | 3:19:41 | 3:19:43 | |
And I'm frightened I'm going to die. | 3:19:47 | 3:19:49 | |
Michelle and Colin are just two of many thousands infected over | 3:19:53 | 3:19:57 | |
more than a decade by NHS treatments that were supposed to help them. | 3:19:57 | 3:20:02 | |
The victims and their families are still trying to understand | 3:20:02 | 3:20:05 | |
how things could have gone so disastrously wrong. | 3:20:05 | 3:20:09 | |
Hello. | 3:20:11 | 3:20:13 | |
Adrian Goodyear, like Colin, suffers from haemophilia. | 3:20:13 | 3:20:17 | |
Talk to me? No? No. | 3:20:17 | 3:20:18 | |
It means his blood can't clot properly. | 3:20:18 | 3:20:21 | |
And without treatment, he could bleed uncontrollably. | 3:20:21 | 3:20:25 | |
I have a weekly injection to help my blood to clot, basically. | 3:20:25 | 3:20:29 | |
If not, I get internal bleeding, | 3:20:29 | 3:20:31 | |
you get something called a rush bleed when you're really only have | 3:20:31 | 3:20:35 | |
about 20 minutes before the joint or muscle is completely solid | 3:20:35 | 3:20:39 | |
and filled with blood inside. | 3:20:39 | 3:20:41 | |
If you've ever broken a bone, it's the same. It's the same pain. | 3:20:41 | 3:20:45 | |
About one in 10,000 children are born with haemophilia. | 3:20:47 | 3:20:50 | |
Most of them boys. | 3:20:50 | 3:20:52 | |
Their internal bleeds can be life-threatening. | 3:20:52 | 3:20:56 | |
And before modern treatments, | 3:20:56 | 3:20:57 | |
modern haemophiliacs didn't survive beyond their teenage years. | 3:20:57 | 3:21:02 | |
Growing up in the '70s, Adrian had a hard time at his local school. | 3:21:04 | 3:21:09 | |
The first day when I arrived in my middle school, | 3:21:10 | 3:21:13 | |
the headmaster made the mistake of holding me up in front of | 3:21:13 | 3:21:16 | |
the whole school saying, "Do not hit this young boy | 3:21:16 | 3:21:20 | |
"cos he has haemophilia and he will bleed." | 3:21:20 | 3:21:23 | |
Now, could you imagine how that played out the next four years? | 3:21:23 | 3:21:28 | |
At school. "What happens if I hit you?" | 3:21:28 | 3:21:30 | |
Dot, dot, dot. | 3:21:30 | 3:21:31 | |
They couldn't cope with my condition. | 3:21:31 | 3:21:34 | |
It would take four days to get over one bleed. | 3:21:34 | 3:21:37 | |
So you'd be in hospital for a week and you'd miss so much school. | 3:21:37 | 3:21:41 | |
Much school was missed. | 3:21:41 | 3:21:43 | |
But in 1980, Adrian was given the chance | 3:21:46 | 3:21:48 | |
to go to Treloar's, a specialist school for disabled children. | 3:21:48 | 3:21:52 | |
'280 boys and girls, aged eight to 19, attend this remarkable school.' | 3:21:55 | 3:22:00 | |
I ended up at the age of ten going to Treloar's. | 3:22:00 | 3:22:03 | |
But it was a boarding school and it was completely unique. | 3:22:03 | 3:22:07 | |
It was an old Elizabethan mansion, it was like Harry Potter's. | 3:22:09 | 3:22:13 | |
It was incredible. | 3:22:13 | 3:22:14 | |
And Treloar's had an NHS haemophilia centre on site. | 3:22:15 | 3:22:19 | |
'The college has many years' experience in managing haemophilia.' | 3:22:20 | 3:22:24 | |
It was the only school in the world like it. | 3:22:25 | 3:22:28 | |
When I went there, there were about 35 haemophilia boys. | 3:22:28 | 3:22:31 | |
There was a medical centre, nurses, physiotherapists. | 3:22:32 | 3:22:36 | |
You would never have to miss a class ever again. | 3:22:37 | 3:22:40 | |
A few years above was Joseph Petie. | 3:22:43 | 3:22:45 | |
I was 13 when I went to Treloar's. | 3:22:47 | 3:22:50 | |
And, yeah, it was a very different experience | 3:22:50 | 3:22:52 | |
to anything I'd ever had before. | 3:22:52 | 3:22:55 | |
There was a lot more freedom, it was almost like a seamless existence. | 3:22:56 | 3:23:01 | |
You were at the college, but the haemophilia centre was there day or night, | 3:23:01 | 3:23:04 | |
you'd come out of your dorm, down the corridor | 3:23:04 | 3:23:06 | |
and you were in there and seeing a doctor. | 3:23:06 | 3:23:08 | |
Being at Treloar's gave me an ability to become | 3:23:08 | 3:23:11 | |
more independent and to kind of gain your own perspective on life, | 3:23:11 | 3:23:16 | |
your own personality, your own character. | 3:23:16 | 3:23:18 | |
Children at Treloar's were given blood clotting treatments | 3:23:20 | 3:23:23 | |
that had revolutionised the care of haemophilia - | 3:23:23 | 3:23:26 | |
factor concentrates. | 3:23:26 | 3:23:28 | |
The most common was called Factor VIII. | 3:23:28 | 3:23:32 | |
Factor VIII made the most unimaginable difference. | 3:23:34 | 3:23:37 | |
Because you could have your jab, | 3:23:37 | 3:23:39 | |
you'd probably be off your feet only for a day, | 3:23:39 | 3:23:41 | |
you weren't worried about getting on your bike or your skateboard or, | 3:23:41 | 3:23:44 | |
you know, going out with your friends up the park. | 3:23:44 | 3:23:47 | |
Factor VIII stopped bleeds quickly and could even prevent them. | 3:23:48 | 3:23:52 | |
And patients could treat themselves. | 3:23:52 | 3:23:55 | |
'At Treloar's all haemophilic boys are taught from an early age | 3:23:55 | 3:23:59 | |
'how to manage their disorder.' | 3:23:59 | 3:24:00 | |
That's my good friend Simon, bless him, | 3:24:00 | 3:24:02 | |
no longer with us any more. | 3:24:02 | 3:24:04 | |
And this is what we would have to do. | 3:24:05 | 3:24:07 | |
We'd have to learn how to mix your Factor VIII up, | 3:24:07 | 3:24:09 | |
pop it in a bottle, give it a mix | 3:24:09 | 3:24:12 | |
and then learn to inject it. | 3:24:12 | 3:24:14 | |
And it wasn't only patients who were impressed by Factor VIII. | 3:24:14 | 3:24:18 | |
I think that people were very excited by the success of Factor VIII. | 3:24:18 | 3:24:23 | |
There were a number of physicians across the country | 3:24:23 | 3:24:26 | |
who saw the enormous benefits and became, I think, | 3:24:26 | 3:24:31 | |
quite overwhelmed by how wonderful things were, really. | 3:24:31 | 3:24:35 | |
But there were some concerns about Factor VIII. | 3:24:36 | 3:24:40 | |
It was made by pooling together the plasma | 3:24:40 | 3:24:43 | |
of thousands of blood donations in huge vats. | 3:24:43 | 3:24:46 | |
And if just one donor had an infection, | 3:24:46 | 3:24:49 | |
it would contaminate the whole batch. | 3:24:49 | 3:24:52 | |
The biggest manufacturers were in America | 3:24:53 | 3:24:56 | |
where people were often paid to give blood. | 3:24:56 | 3:24:59 | |
And those who needed the money | 3:24:59 | 3:25:01 | |
were also those most likely to be carrying infections. | 3:25:01 | 3:25:04 | |
The NHS was already importing American Factor VIII | 3:25:06 | 3:25:10 | |
when David Owen became Health Minister. | 3:25:10 | 3:25:13 | |
There was an appalling situation for collecting blood | 3:25:13 | 3:25:19 | |
from people who were in prisons, from people who were on drugs. | 3:25:19 | 3:25:22 | |
And yet we continued to use these blood supplies. | 3:25:23 | 3:25:26 | |
A common infection was hepatitis. | 3:25:28 | 3:25:30 | |
But doctors felt the benefits of Factor VIII outweighed the risks. | 3:25:31 | 3:25:36 | |
I think it was fair to say that hepatitis didn't seem to be | 3:25:37 | 3:25:42 | |
a serious problem at that time. | 3:25:42 | 3:25:45 | |
The UK did make some of its own Factor VIII. | 3:25:45 | 3:25:49 | |
All blood products have a degree of risk, | 3:25:49 | 3:25:52 | |
but British Factor VIII was thought to be safer | 3:25:52 | 3:25:55 | |
because donors here were not paid. | 3:25:55 | 3:25:57 | |
In Scotland, they tried to avoid using American products altogether. | 3:26:00 | 3:26:04 | |
We took the view that this stuff is lethal. | 3:26:05 | 3:26:08 | |
We took the view that this is sleepwalking to disaster. | 3:26:08 | 3:26:11 | |
Right from the word go. | 3:26:11 | 3:26:14 | |
David Owen was determined | 3:26:14 | 3:26:15 | |
that the rest of the UK should also avoid American imports. | 3:26:15 | 3:26:19 | |
What we had to decide was to increase our own blood supplies | 3:26:20 | 3:26:26 | |
from our own blood transfusion service | 3:26:26 | 3:26:29 | |
at every level of blood transfusion. | 3:26:29 | 3:26:32 | |
And that's a decision we took in '75 - to become self-sufficient. | 3:26:32 | 3:26:37 | |
But David Owen left the Department of Health in 1976. | 3:26:39 | 3:26:43 | |
And self-sufficiency was never achieved. | 3:26:43 | 3:26:46 | |
The winner there is the pharmaceutical industry. | 3:26:47 | 3:26:51 | |
The losers in that situation are the patients. | 3:26:51 | 3:26:54 | |
For the patients to win, they want stuff coming from a safe source. | 3:26:55 | 3:27:01 | |
And that didn't materialise. | 3:27:03 | 3:27:06 | |
As was needed south of the border. | 3:27:07 | 3:27:09 | |
The Department of Health told us they tried to make Britain | 3:27:11 | 3:27:14 | |
self-sufficient, but supply couldn't keep up with demand. | 3:27:14 | 3:27:18 | |
So they had to rely on American products. | 3:27:18 | 3:27:22 | |
We understood that there were risks. | 3:27:23 | 3:27:26 | |
What we didn't understand was the magnitude | 3:27:26 | 3:27:28 | |
of what was about to happen. | 3:27:28 | 3:27:30 | |
'Bobby Campbell is one of a rapidly growing group | 3:27:38 | 3:27:41 | |
'whose battle has fascinated and frightened modern medicine.' | 3:27:41 | 3:27:45 | |
In 1981, reports began to appear in America | 3:27:45 | 3:27:48 | |
about a mysterious new disease. | 3:27:48 | 3:27:51 | |
These were the first signs of what we now call AIDS. | 3:27:52 | 3:27:56 | |
It's definitely transmissible, just how, I don't know. | 3:27:56 | 3:27:59 | |
Is it through blood, is it through saliva? | 3:27:59 | 3:28:03 | |
Nobody knew what it was due to. | 3:28:03 | 3:28:05 | |
People thought it might well be a transmissible agent, | 3:28:05 | 3:28:08 | |
probably a virus. | 3:28:08 | 3:28:10 | |
But people also talked about, of course, the homosexual community, | 3:28:10 | 3:28:14 | |
the possibility that it might be related to things like poppers, | 3:28:14 | 3:28:17 | |
the so-called sexually enhancing drugs that people were using. | 3:28:17 | 3:28:21 | |
AIDS hotline. | 3:28:21 | 3:28:23 | |
Then, in January 1982, | 3:28:24 | 3:28:26 | |
the first American haemophiliac was identified with AIDS. | 3:28:26 | 3:28:30 | |
By the end of the year, there have been nine reported cases, | 3:28:30 | 3:28:34 | |
and eight of them have died. | 3:28:34 | 3:28:36 | |
Newspapers here soon raised questions | 3:28:36 | 3:28:39 | |
about the safety of American blood products. | 3:28:39 | 3:28:41 | |
There was a Daily Mail story... | 3:28:49 | 3:28:52 | |
and it was front page. | 3:28:52 | 3:28:54 | |
Haemophiliacs are at risk from AIDS. | 3:28:55 | 3:28:58 | |
And that was again a mark that was on a coffee table somewhere | 3:28:59 | 3:29:03 | |
and you just see the word haemophiliac and AIDS. | 3:29:03 | 3:29:07 | |
"Hospitals using killer blood." | 3:29:09 | 3:29:12 | |
Well, that is pretty emotive... | 3:29:12 | 3:29:15 | |
..by any standard. | 3:29:17 | 3:29:19 | |
I would arrive in my office about half past seven in the morning, | 3:29:19 | 3:29:22 | |
and very often, I'd still be there at seven o'clock at night, | 3:29:22 | 3:29:25 | |
having spent my entire day with the telephone glued to my ear | 3:29:25 | 3:29:31 | |
with calls from anxiety-ridden patients. | 3:29:31 | 3:29:36 | |
The Haemophilia Society turned to the country's leading specialist, | 3:29:37 | 3:29:41 | |
Professor Arthur Bloom. | 3:29:41 | 3:29:43 | |
He wrote this letter, which was sent out to patients, | 3:29:43 | 3:29:46 | |
saying that it had not been proven that blood products | 3:29:46 | 3:29:49 | |
transmitted AIDS, and that the number of cases | 3:29:49 | 3:29:53 | |
among American haemophiliacs was small. | 3:29:53 | 3:29:56 | |
We felt that there was a reassurance to be given to patients | 3:29:56 | 3:30:01 | |
based on what we knew at that time. | 3:30:01 | 3:30:05 | |
But it's now clear that Professor Bloom knew much more | 3:30:05 | 3:30:08 | |
than he was telling. | 3:30:08 | 3:30:10 | |
Eight weeks before he wrote to patients, | 3:30:10 | 3:30:13 | |
he received this letter, | 3:30:13 | 3:30:15 | |
which has only recently been made public. | 3:30:15 | 3:30:18 | |
In it, a leading American specialist, Dr Bruce Evatt, | 3:30:18 | 3:30:21 | |
tells Bloom that there are already 13 haemophiliacs with AIDS | 3:30:21 | 3:30:25 | |
in the US. | 3:30:25 | 3:30:27 | |
They had all been given Factor VIII. | 3:30:27 | 3:30:29 | |
It would only be a matter of time, | 3:30:29 | 3:30:32 | |
Evatt suspected, before cases appeared in the UK. | 3:30:32 | 3:30:36 | |
And on 6th May, the first UK case was reported, | 3:30:38 | 3:30:43 | |
in Cardiff, where Professor Bloom practised. | 3:30:43 | 3:30:46 | |
At this point, the head of disease control in England and Wales | 3:30:48 | 3:30:51 | |
stepped in. | 3:30:51 | 3:30:53 | |
Dr Spence Galbraith wrote to the Department of Health. | 3:30:53 | 3:30:56 | |
"All blood products made from blood donated in the USA," | 3:30:56 | 3:31:00 | |
he said, "should be withdrawn from use." | 3:31:00 | 3:31:04 | |
But if that happened, doctors wouldn't have enough Factor VIII | 3:31:06 | 3:31:10 | |
to treat their patients. | 3:31:10 | 3:31:12 | |
If that advice had been followed, | 3:31:12 | 3:31:15 | |
haemophilia care in the United Kingdom would have collapsed. | 3:31:15 | 3:31:18 | |
There were some very difficult decisions to be made | 3:31:18 | 3:31:21 | |
around that time. In that one year leading up to the middle of 1983, | 3:31:21 | 3:31:26 | |
ten people in Britain with haemophilia had died | 3:31:26 | 3:31:30 | |
of bleeding into the brain. | 3:31:30 | 3:31:32 | |
Bleeding was the commonest cause of death. | 3:31:32 | 3:31:34 | |
And in July, the panel that advised the Government on the safety | 3:31:34 | 3:31:38 | |
of medicines rejected Dr Galbraith's advice. | 3:31:38 | 3:31:42 | |
The cause of AIDS was unknown, they said, | 3:31:42 | 3:31:45 | |
and the level of risk did not justify | 3:31:45 | 3:31:48 | |
withdrawing American products. | 3:31:48 | 3:31:51 | |
With the hindsight of what happened next, | 3:31:51 | 3:31:55 | |
you might say, well, actually, perhaps Dr Galbraith was right, | 3:31:55 | 3:31:59 | |
and perhaps we should have stopped treating people with haemophilia, | 3:31:59 | 3:32:02 | |
but it didn't seem like it at the time. | 3:32:02 | 3:32:04 | |
That summer, Adrian Goodyear was spending the school holidays | 3:32:06 | 3:32:10 | |
at home with his family. | 3:32:10 | 3:32:12 | |
I was down in Portsmouth, | 3:32:12 | 3:32:15 | |
I was about 13. | 3:32:15 | 3:32:17 | |
I was mixing up my dose at home | 3:32:18 | 3:32:20 | |
because, by then, I'd learned how to mix up my own injection. | 3:32:20 | 3:32:24 | |
I'd mixed my jab, took it, | 3:32:26 | 3:32:28 | |
but a week after that jab, I felt terrible. | 3:32:28 | 3:32:32 | |
Glands went billy-o. | 3:32:32 | 3:32:34 | |
Mum... | 3:32:34 | 3:32:35 | |
..took me back to our local GP several times in that summer. | 3:32:37 | 3:32:40 | |
So, yeah, '83. | 3:32:43 | 3:32:45 | |
That was my day. | 3:32:45 | 3:32:47 | |
It was definitely HIV coming in. | 3:32:47 | 3:32:49 | |
There was a period where I was ill for 12 months. | 3:32:51 | 3:32:55 | |
It was like the worst case of flu that I've ever had. | 3:32:55 | 3:32:59 | |
I couldn't shake it off. | 3:32:59 | 3:33:01 | |
I was at Treloar's for the whole of that time, | 3:33:01 | 3:33:04 | |
and talking to my mum on the phone and she was, | 3:33:04 | 3:33:06 | |
"I can't believe you've still got that cold. What's wrong?" | 3:33:06 | 3:33:09 | |
Then she raised it with the doctors | 3:33:09 | 3:33:11 | |
and they were, "We just think it's a cold. He's just having a job | 3:33:11 | 3:33:14 | |
"fighting it off." | 3:33:14 | 3:33:16 | |
But looking back, something wasn't right. | 3:33:16 | 3:33:20 | |
Joseph and Adrian's medical records | 3:33:23 | 3:33:25 | |
show that, privately, their doctors were concerned about AIDS. | 3:33:25 | 3:33:29 | |
But both say it was not discussed with them or their parents. | 3:33:29 | 3:33:34 | |
In Newport, Janet and Colin Smith | 3:33:40 | 3:33:42 | |
had only just discovered that their son had haemophilia. | 3:33:42 | 3:33:45 | |
Aw... | 3:33:45 | 3:33:47 | |
-A self-portrait, that one. -Yeah. | 3:33:48 | 3:33:50 | |
I love that picture. | 3:33:50 | 3:33:52 | |
Baby Colin was nine months old at the time, | 3:33:52 | 3:33:55 | |
and doctors were about to give him Factor VIII. | 3:33:55 | 3:33:59 | |
His parents say they were told nothing about the risks. | 3:33:59 | 3:34:03 | |
They never, ever discussed... | 3:34:03 | 3:34:06 | |
I mean, when Colin had the Factor VIII, | 3:34:06 | 3:34:08 | |
it was just the Factor VIII, | 3:34:08 | 3:34:10 | |
and that was the end of it, do you know what I mean? | 3:34:10 | 3:34:13 | |
We were told that the treatment given was safe, 100% safe. | 3:34:13 | 3:34:16 | |
Turns out it wasn't. | 3:34:16 | 3:34:18 | |
But it's clear senior doctors knew there were risks | 3:34:20 | 3:34:23 | |
and were trying to manage them. | 3:34:23 | 3:34:25 | |
This letter was sent out to haemophilia centres in June 1983, | 3:34:25 | 3:34:30 | |
eight weeks before Colin Smith was first treated. | 3:34:30 | 3:34:34 | |
It recommended that children should be treated with NHS concentrates. | 3:34:34 | 3:34:39 | |
But in baby Colin's case, that advice wasn't followed, | 3:34:42 | 3:34:46 | |
and in August 1983, | 3:34:46 | 3:34:47 | |
he was given his first dose of American Factor VIII, | 3:34:47 | 3:34:51 | |
just before his first birthday. | 3:34:51 | 3:34:53 | |
His parents still don't know why that happened. | 3:34:53 | 3:34:57 | |
By now, questions were also being asked in Parliament, | 3:35:00 | 3:35:03 | |
but the Government, too, seemed keen to avoid discussing the risks | 3:35:03 | 3:35:07 | |
from Factor VIII. | 3:35:07 | 3:35:09 | |
Minister of Health Kenneth Clarke's message to the public was emphatic. | 3:35:09 | 3:35:14 | |
There was no conclusive evidence that AIDS was transmitted | 3:35:14 | 3:35:18 | |
by blood products. | 3:35:18 | 3:35:20 | |
Jason Evans's father was diagnosed with severe haemophilia | 3:35:31 | 3:35:35 | |
in the late 1960s. | 3:35:35 | 3:35:37 | |
By the 1980s, Jonathan Evans was working in a DIY shop. | 3:35:37 | 3:35:42 | |
This is my dad's first job. | 3:35:42 | 3:35:45 | |
He wanted to be a carpenter. | 3:35:45 | 3:35:48 | |
He's 18 here. | 3:35:48 | 3:35:50 | |
He's looking very fresh-faced. | 3:35:50 | 3:35:52 | |
I think Factor VIII certainly made life easier for him. | 3:35:52 | 3:35:56 | |
Jason wasn't born when this film was shot, | 3:35:58 | 3:36:01 | |
but he's recently discovered that, in late 1984, | 3:36:01 | 3:36:05 | |
Jonathan Evans raised concerns with his doctors about Factor VIII. | 3:36:05 | 3:36:10 | |
He switched over to another treatment for haemophilia | 3:36:12 | 3:36:15 | |
that had been used in the 1960s - cryoprecipitate. | 3:36:15 | 3:36:18 | |
-NEWS REPORT: -This precipitate, containing the missing Factor VIII, | 3:36:18 | 3:36:23 | |
must be thawed in warm water... | 3:36:23 | 3:36:25 | |
Each bag of cryoprecipitate came from just one donor, | 3:36:25 | 3:36:28 | |
so was far less likely to be contaminated than Factor VIII. | 3:36:28 | 3:36:32 | |
But it was cumbersome and less effective. | 3:36:32 | 3:36:35 | |
Cryoprecipitate is very difficult to use, | 3:36:35 | 3:36:38 | |
it's difficult to thaw out, it's difficult to mix, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:40 | |
it's difficult to give, | 3:36:40 | 3:36:42 | |
and it causes more allergic responses. | 3:36:42 | 3:36:45 | |
Reverting to cryoprecipitate was not recommended by most doctors. | 3:36:45 | 3:36:50 | |
After one treatment, Jonathan Evans went back to Factor VIII. | 3:36:50 | 3:36:54 | |
I know, through speaking to my mother, obviously, | 3:36:54 | 3:36:57 | |
he'd spoken to her, and the physicians had advised him | 3:36:57 | 3:37:01 | |
that it was really nothing to worry about, | 3:37:01 | 3:37:04 | |
this is kind of sensationalism and not to pay attention to it, | 3:37:04 | 3:37:08 | |
and he trusted his doctor. | 3:37:08 | 3:37:10 | |
I think the moment there was a suspicion that | 3:37:10 | 3:37:15 | |
the AIDS virus may be in these products, | 3:37:15 | 3:37:18 | |
patients should have been given the choice of whether | 3:37:18 | 3:37:22 | |
they wanted to take that gamble | 3:37:22 | 3:37:24 | |
and play Russian roulette with their life, | 3:37:24 | 3:37:26 | |
and I can almost guarantee you that 99% of them | 3:37:26 | 3:37:29 | |
would not have taken that gamble. | 3:37:29 | 3:37:32 | |
The virus causing AIDS was finally identified in April 1984. | 3:37:32 | 3:37:37 | |
It would become known as HIV. | 3:37:37 | 3:37:41 | |
Later that year, a test became available, | 3:37:41 | 3:37:43 | |
and doctors began to discover the scale of the disaster | 3:37:43 | 3:37:47 | |
that they'd been part of. | 3:37:47 | 3:37:49 | |
We were asked to bleed all our regularly treated patients, | 3:37:49 | 3:37:53 | |
and send those blood samples for testing. | 3:37:53 | 3:37:57 | |
And about a month later, | 3:37:59 | 3:38:01 | |
I got into my office | 3:38:01 | 3:38:03 | |
and there were 31 brown envelopes on my desk, | 3:38:03 | 3:38:06 | |
and I opened the first one and it said, "Positive." | 3:38:06 | 3:38:09 | |
And I opened the second one and it said, "Positive." | 3:38:09 | 3:38:12 | |
And I opened the third one and it said, "Positive." | 3:38:12 | 3:38:15 | |
And after about nine or ten, I came to one that said, "Negative." | 3:38:15 | 3:38:19 | |
But all the rest were positive. | 3:38:19 | 3:38:22 | |
You don't go into medicine | 3:38:22 | 3:38:25 | |
to harm people. | 3:38:25 | 3:38:27 | |
In my case, the treatment I gave | 3:38:27 | 3:38:30 | |
not only didn't help, it actually killed patients. | 3:38:30 | 3:38:34 | |
It was absolutely desperate | 3:38:36 | 3:38:38 | |
to see a group of people who were being harmed by their treatment. | 3:38:38 | 3:38:42 | |
This was uncharted territory. | 3:38:44 | 3:38:46 | |
Doctors had no guidelines about testing patients | 3:38:46 | 3:38:50 | |
or how to break the news to them. | 3:38:50 | 3:38:52 | |
Adrian Goodyear was just 14 when he was called in | 3:38:54 | 3:38:57 | |
for a meeting with his doctors at Treloar's. | 3:38:57 | 3:39:00 | |
He had no idea that he'd even been tested for HIV. | 3:39:00 | 3:39:04 | |
We were asked to go as a group of five. | 3:39:05 | 3:39:08 | |
They went round the room one by one | 3:39:09 | 3:39:12 | |
and they went, "You have. | 3:39:12 | 3:39:14 | |
"You haven't. | 3:39:14 | 3:39:16 | |
"You have. You haven't." | 3:39:16 | 3:39:17 | |
Slowly and calmly, | 3:39:17 | 3:39:19 | |
who had HIV and who didn't. | 3:39:19 | 3:39:21 | |
Three out of the five boys in that room that day | 3:39:21 | 3:39:25 | |
were HIV positive. | 3:39:25 | 3:39:27 | |
And I was one of them. | 3:39:29 | 3:39:31 | |
I looked out the windows, the sunshine was coming in. | 3:39:33 | 3:39:36 | |
And there was a moment of, that's my last sun. | 3:39:36 | 3:39:40 | |
That is my last sun. | 3:39:41 | 3:39:44 | |
We've had it. We're dead. We're all dead. | 3:39:45 | 3:39:47 | |
Colin Smith was in hospital being given more Factor VIII | 3:39:54 | 3:39:58 | |
when his parents were given the news. | 3:39:58 | 3:40:01 | |
-We were told in a corridor, actually. -Yeah. | 3:40:01 | 3:40:04 | |
We weren't taken into a room and, | 3:40:04 | 3:40:06 | |
"Sit down, we need to tell you something." | 3:40:06 | 3:40:09 | |
They said, "Colin's tested positive for HIV." | 3:40:10 | 3:40:13 | |
Well, we didn't even know what it was, really. We just went, "OK." | 3:40:13 | 3:40:16 | |
That's how we were told. | 3:40:16 | 3:40:18 | |
In the corridor of a ward with other children running past us. | 3:40:18 | 3:40:23 | |
Joseph Peaty was 19 | 3:40:26 | 3:40:28 | |
and had just left Treloar's. | 3:40:28 | 3:40:30 | |
I was in hospital with a bleed | 3:40:30 | 3:40:33 | |
and it was a registrar that was going around in the evening, | 3:40:33 | 3:40:36 | |
and he said, "Do you mind me having a chat to you about haemophilia?" | 3:40:36 | 3:40:40 | |
And he was going through my notes and, | 3:40:40 | 3:40:42 | |
"Oh, I see that you're HIV positive." | 3:40:42 | 3:40:46 | |
By now, Joseph had a girlfriend | 3:40:47 | 3:40:50 | |
and was thinking of going to university. | 3:40:50 | 3:40:53 | |
That's a bit of a mind-blowing thing to suddenly have to | 3:40:54 | 3:40:57 | |
get your head round. | 3:40:57 | 3:40:59 | |
This is... | 3:40:59 | 3:41:00 | |
This is a death sentence. | 3:41:00 | 3:41:02 | |
Your life has just kind of been mapped out | 3:41:02 | 3:41:05 | |
and you've got two or three years, | 3:41:05 | 3:41:08 | |
and as far as you know, that's going to be it. | 3:41:08 | 3:41:11 | |
You know? Turmoil. | 3:41:13 | 3:41:15 | |
Complete turmoil. | 3:41:15 | 3:41:17 | |
Jonathan Evans was also tested without his knowledge. | 3:41:22 | 3:41:26 | |
It was seven months later before he was told. | 3:41:26 | 3:41:30 | |
My mum was with him, and they were called in to the doctor's office | 3:41:32 | 3:41:35 | |
and the doctor basically told them both quite bluntly | 3:41:35 | 3:41:40 | |
that my dad had tested positive for HIV. | 3:41:40 | 3:41:44 | |
He first tested positive in 1984. | 3:41:47 | 3:41:50 | |
He wasn't told about that | 3:41:50 | 3:41:53 | |
till mid-1985, which is, you know, shocking in itself, | 3:41:53 | 3:41:57 | |
that they would withhold that knowledge, | 3:41:57 | 3:42:00 | |
obviously putting my mum at risk | 3:42:00 | 3:42:03 | |
and putting his family at risk. | 3:42:03 | 3:42:05 | |
Across the world, | 3:42:18 | 3:42:20 | |
scientists were desperately trying to discover | 3:42:20 | 3:42:22 | |
how to make blood products safe from HIV. | 3:42:22 | 3:42:25 | |
They thought that heating the Factor VIII might work. | 3:42:25 | 3:42:29 | |
And even before the research was conclusive, | 3:42:32 | 3:42:35 | |
some doctors had switched to experimental heat-treated products. | 3:42:35 | 3:42:39 | |
We were criticised quite heavily. | 3:42:42 | 3:42:44 | |
It was just one of those, frankly, | 3:42:44 | 3:42:47 | |
very rare moments, as a doctor, | 3:42:47 | 3:42:49 | |
where you have to make a decision which, later on, you look back on | 3:42:49 | 3:42:54 | |
and say, "Well, I got plenty of decisions wrong, | 3:42:54 | 3:42:57 | |
"but that one was right," | 3:42:57 | 3:42:59 | |
and I, actually, probably did save some lives. | 3:42:59 | 3:43:02 | |
At the end of 1984, | 3:43:03 | 3:43:06 | |
US researchers concluded that heat treatment | 3:43:06 | 3:43:08 | |
did inactivate HIV. | 3:43:08 | 3:43:10 | |
But there had just been another devastating discovery. | 3:43:12 | 3:43:15 | |
For the first time, HIV was found in UK blood donations. | 3:43:15 | 3:43:20 | |
Now not even British Factor VIII was safe from the virus. | 3:43:21 | 3:43:25 | |
In Scotland, they immediately started making their own | 3:43:25 | 3:43:30 | |
heat-treated products, | 3:43:30 | 3:43:32 | |
but in England, things moved much more slowly. | 3:43:32 | 3:43:35 | |
The evidence was there in the autumn of 1984, | 3:43:35 | 3:43:39 | |
that heat treatment did inactivate HIV, | 3:43:39 | 3:43:43 | |
so there was very strong evidence there that the Department of Health | 3:43:43 | 3:43:46 | |
should have been looking at, | 3:43:46 | 3:43:48 | |
and yet it takes another nine months for the country | 3:43:48 | 3:43:52 | |
to be switched over to safer treatment, | 3:43:52 | 3:43:55 | |
during which time some people probably got infected. | 3:43:55 | 3:43:59 | |
Sarah's husband was treated at just this time. | 3:44:04 | 3:44:08 | |
She avoided infection, but wants to remain anonymous. | 3:44:08 | 3:44:11 | |
She's never told his story publicly before. | 3:44:13 | 3:44:15 | |
Was my heart broken? Yes. | 3:44:18 | 3:44:19 | |
Did he suffer? Yes. | 3:44:19 | 3:44:20 | |
Was it prejudice? Was it pain? | 3:44:20 | 3:44:22 | |
Was it fear? Was it humiliation? | 3:44:22 | 3:44:24 | |
Yes, yes, yes and yes. | 3:44:24 | 3:44:25 | |
On December 16th 1984, | 3:44:26 | 3:44:29 | |
Sarah's husband had to go to hospital with a serious bleed. | 3:44:29 | 3:44:33 | |
It was the first time he'd needed treatment for his haemophilia | 3:44:33 | 3:44:36 | |
in 13 years. | 3:44:36 | 3:44:38 | |
The significance of this is that when he went for that treatment, | 3:44:39 | 3:44:42 | |
he would not have been previously exposed to HIV | 3:44:42 | 3:44:45 | |
and, more importantly, they knew that. | 3:44:45 | 3:44:48 | |
In fact, just a few days earlier, | 3:44:50 | 3:44:52 | |
senior doctors had issued new guidelines which said | 3:44:52 | 3:44:56 | |
that patients not previously exposed to untreated blood products | 3:44:56 | 3:45:00 | |
should be given cryoprecipitate | 3:45:00 | 3:45:03 | |
or heated NHS Factor VIII if available. | 3:45:03 | 3:45:07 | |
Sarah's husband was given unheated Factor VIII. | 3:45:13 | 3:45:16 | |
Bearing in mind that they knew that there was this massive risk | 3:45:18 | 3:45:21 | |
from unheated product, | 3:45:21 | 3:45:23 | |
not only did they give him an unheated product, | 3:45:23 | 3:45:26 | |
which they shouldn't have done, | 3:45:26 | 3:45:28 | |
but they actually gave him multiple batches, | 3:45:28 | 3:45:31 | |
multiplying his risk several times over. | 3:45:31 | 3:45:33 | |
And when he was tested eight months later, | 3:45:35 | 3:45:38 | |
Sarah's husband was HIV positive. | 3:45:38 | 3:45:41 | |
He died in 1998, aged 40. | 3:45:41 | 3:45:44 | |
The proper treatment for my husband was heated Factor VIII. | 3:45:45 | 3:45:50 | |
Now, if it were that the clinician did not have access | 3:45:50 | 3:45:53 | |
to that clotting factor, | 3:45:53 | 3:45:55 | |
then it just means that the person who is responsible | 3:45:55 | 3:45:58 | |
is further up the chain. | 3:45:58 | 3:46:00 | |
What I want people to go away with is not how sad it was, | 3:46:01 | 3:46:05 | |
but how wrong it was. | 3:46:05 | 3:46:07 | |
It wasn't until September 1985 | 3:46:13 | 3:46:16 | |
that most Factor VIII in Britain was safe from HIV, | 3:46:16 | 3:46:20 | |
but for those who'd been infected, the damage had been done... | 3:46:20 | 3:46:24 | |
AIDS has reached epidemic proportions. | 3:46:24 | 3:46:27 | |
..and the entire country was now | 3:46:30 | 3:46:32 | |
in the grip of an AIDS scare. | 3:46:32 | 3:46:35 | |
48% believed AIDS victims only had themselves to blame. | 3:46:35 | 3:46:40 | |
Later that night, it's claimed, the man's home was firebombed. | 3:46:40 | 3:46:43 | |
We were known as "the AIDS family". | 3:46:45 | 3:46:47 | |
We weren't known as the Smith family. | 3:46:49 | 3:46:51 | |
We were the AIDS family. | 3:46:51 | 3:46:53 | |
It was written on the side of the house, yeah. | 3:46:53 | 3:46:55 | |
-That was huge. -That was, just, "AIDS", in big capital letters. | 3:46:55 | 3:46:59 | |
So that was the time we said, | 3:47:01 | 3:47:02 | |
"We've got to move, can't stay here." | 3:47:02 | 3:47:04 | |
You'd get horrible phone calls in the middle of the night | 3:47:04 | 3:47:07 | |
and things like that. | 3:47:07 | 3:47:08 | |
It was a horrendous time. It was horrendous. | 3:47:08 | 3:47:11 | |
At Treloar's, journalists turned up looking for a story. | 3:47:13 | 3:47:18 | |
There was two guys standing at the gate | 3:47:18 | 3:47:21 | |
and asked us, "Hello, boys. | 3:47:21 | 3:47:23 | |
"Are you haemophiliacs?" | 3:47:23 | 3:47:25 | |
And a friend of mine went, "Yeah," as you do, a bit defensive. | 3:47:25 | 3:47:31 | |
Um...and they said, | 3:47:31 | 3:47:32 | |
"So, what you think about AIDS, then? Have you got AIDS?" | 3:47:32 | 3:47:35 | |
Luckily, the older boy said, "No comment." | 3:47:37 | 3:47:40 | |
You know, that's crazy, isn't it? | 3:47:40 | 3:47:42 | |
You're going down to the shops to get your sweets and your tin of pop, | 3:47:42 | 3:47:45 | |
and there's two journalists at the gate, asking you questions. | 3:47:45 | 3:47:48 | |
And that happened two or three times. | 3:47:48 | 3:47:50 | |
For Jason Evans' parents, | 3:47:53 | 3:47:54 | |
AIDS meant having to make an agonising decision. | 3:47:54 | 3:47:57 | |
-VIDEO: -'And what have you called him?' | 3:47:59 | 3:48:00 | |
'Jason. JJ, for short.' | 3:48:00 | 3:48:03 | |
'That got anything to do with Dallas, do you reckon?' | 3:48:03 | 3:48:05 | |
'No, nothing to do with Dallas. That's JR.' | 3:48:05 | 3:48:08 | |
My mum and dad wanted a child, | 3:48:09 | 3:48:11 | |
but obviously, my dad didn't want to infect my mum, | 3:48:11 | 3:48:13 | |
and my mum didn't want to be infected. | 3:48:13 | 3:48:16 | |
But they took a risk, and here I am. | 3:48:16 | 3:48:19 | |
-VIDEO: -'JJ at three days old, on video.' | 3:48:20 | 3:48:22 | |
'Four.' | 3:48:22 | 3:48:23 | |
'Four days old.' | 3:48:23 | 3:48:25 | |
'He's forgotten the day already!' | 3:48:25 | 3:48:27 | |
The reason why he and my mum were taking videos | 3:48:27 | 3:48:29 | |
was for me to have something when I was older, to look back on. | 3:48:29 | 3:48:33 | |
-VIDEO: -'# Happy birthday to you. #' | 3:48:33 | 3:48:36 | |
'Give it a blow.' | 3:48:36 | 3:48:37 | |
'Blow it out!' | 3:48:37 | 3:48:39 | |
My first memory of my dad is the last time I ever saw him. | 3:48:41 | 3:48:45 | |
CHILD YELLS ON VIDEO | 3:48:45 | 3:48:47 | |
It was my birthday, and obviously, I was four years old. | 3:48:47 | 3:48:51 | |
I remember walking into the room and he was on a bed. | 3:48:51 | 3:48:55 | |
I remember just being stood in that room for a period of time | 3:48:55 | 3:48:59 | |
and just, kind of, looking at him, | 3:48:59 | 3:49:00 | |
but not really understanding what was happening. | 3:49:00 | 3:49:05 | |
Six weeks after Jason's fourth birthday, | 3:49:07 | 3:49:09 | |
Jonathan Evans died. | 3:49:09 | 3:49:12 | |
He was 31 years old. | 3:49:12 | 3:49:13 | |
Colin Smith was only seven. | 3:49:18 | 3:49:21 | |
Towards the end, we were picking our son up in sheepskin, | 3:49:21 | 3:49:24 | |
because we hurt him. | 3:49:24 | 3:49:26 | |
He'd lost so much weight. | 3:49:26 | 3:49:28 | |
He was skeletal, wasn't he? | 3:49:28 | 3:49:30 | |
They did actually say that he was not going to recover. | 3:49:30 | 3:49:33 | |
My exact words to the doctors then were, | 3:49:36 | 3:49:38 | |
"Well, if he's going to die, he's going to do it at home. | 3:49:38 | 3:49:40 | |
"Not here." | 3:49:40 | 3:49:41 | |
He said to his brother, Daniel, "You'll miss me when I'm gone." | 3:49:41 | 3:49:44 | |
So he did know. | 3:49:44 | 3:49:46 | |
We used to have some long discussions, | 3:49:47 | 3:49:49 | |
cos he couldn't sleep. | 3:49:49 | 3:49:51 | |
"Why me?" | 3:49:51 | 3:49:52 | |
I couldn't explain that one to him. | 3:49:52 | 3:49:54 | |
Saturday, 4:40. | 3:49:56 | 3:49:58 | |
He just suddenly sat up and said, "Daddy, I can't see." | 3:49:58 | 3:50:01 | |
So we knew something was going on then. | 3:50:01 | 3:50:04 | |
-He was dead within a couple of minutes, wasn't he? -Yeah. | 3:50:04 | 3:50:06 | |
-Yeah. -Very peacefully. | 3:50:06 | 3:50:08 | |
I picked him up in my arms, for about two-and-a-half hours, | 3:50:12 | 3:50:17 | |
and then the undertakers came, then, and we had to say goodbye. | 3:50:17 | 3:50:20 | |
The group which represents Britain's haemophiliacs | 3:50:35 | 3:50:38 | |
is calling on the government to pay up to £200 million in compensation. | 3:50:38 | 3:50:42 | |
By 1989, more than 1,200 people in the UK | 3:50:43 | 3:50:47 | |
were known to have been infected with HIV from contaminated blood | 3:50:47 | 3:50:52 | |
and over 900 of them decided to sue the government for negligence. | 3:50:52 | 3:50:56 | |
Surely, Mr Speaker, they would urgently compensate | 3:50:56 | 3:51:01 | |
haemophiliacs who have contracted the HIV virus. | 3:51:01 | 3:51:05 | |
The government offered a package of financial support | 3:51:07 | 3:51:11 | |
without admitting liability. | 3:51:11 | 3:51:13 | |
-REPORTER: -Haemophiliacs who were given infected blood are expected | 3:51:13 | 3:51:16 | |
to receive a lump sum payment in the region of £20,000. | 3:51:16 | 3:51:20 | |
I did...I did think of pounds. | 3:51:21 | 3:51:24 | |
"How much? How much for my life?" | 3:51:24 | 3:51:27 | |
I was eyeing up stereos in Curry's. | 3:51:27 | 3:51:30 | |
No, genuinely, I was. | 3:51:32 | 3:51:34 | |
We were going to die of this. | 3:51:34 | 3:51:36 | |
In that period, we were going to die. | 3:51:36 | 3:51:38 | |
So £23,500 was an awful lot of money | 3:51:38 | 3:51:41 | |
for a 22, 21, 23-year-old. | 3:51:41 | 3:51:44 | |
But the final settlement had a catch. | 3:51:45 | 3:51:48 | |
We had to sign a waiver | 3:51:48 | 3:51:50 | |
to say that we wouldn't take any further action in respect of HIV, | 3:51:50 | 3:51:57 | |
but tagged on to the end of it - in the last hours, it seems - | 3:51:57 | 3:52:02 | |
was "and hepatitis viruses". | 3:52:02 | 3:52:05 | |
The victims agreed to sign. | 3:52:07 | 3:52:10 | |
But scientists had only recently identified the virus | 3:52:10 | 3:52:14 | |
for hepatitis C | 3:52:14 | 3:52:16 | |
and the severity of the disease was only now becoming apparent. | 3:52:16 | 3:52:20 | |
Later that year, when a test became available, | 3:52:20 | 3:52:22 | |
haemophiliacs with HIV began to discover | 3:52:22 | 3:52:25 | |
they also had hepatitis C. | 3:52:25 | 3:52:28 | |
We felt conned. | 3:52:30 | 3:52:31 | |
Definitely conned. | 3:52:32 | 3:52:34 | |
Because three months after we signed our legal rights away, | 3:52:34 | 3:52:37 | |
we had hep C. | 3:52:37 | 3:52:38 | |
I think it was devious. It was downright underhand. | 3:52:40 | 3:52:43 | |
It just makes me plain angry, really, | 3:52:43 | 3:52:45 | |
to think that they were playing with our lives | 3:52:45 | 3:52:46 | |
and they were still looking for the cheapest way out. | 3:52:46 | 3:52:49 | |
Hepatitis C can cause permanent liver damage and even cancer. | 3:52:51 | 3:52:56 | |
The virus was present in British blood and blood products | 3:52:56 | 3:52:59 | |
as well as American. | 3:52:59 | 3:53:01 | |
So it wasn't only haemophiliacs who were affected - | 3:53:01 | 3:53:05 | |
anyone who had a blood transfusion was also at risk. | 3:53:05 | 3:53:08 | |
Michelle Tolley is 52. | 3:53:13 | 3:53:16 | |
She was given blood twice after having children. | 3:53:18 | 3:53:21 | |
I had my first child in 1987. | 3:53:22 | 3:53:26 | |
I haemorrhaged quite a lot, actually, | 3:53:26 | 3:53:28 | |
to the point of needing half of my blood...body's blood. | 3:53:28 | 3:53:33 | |
And then with the twins, when they were born, | 3:53:33 | 3:53:35 | |
I had to have two pints. | 3:53:35 | 3:53:36 | |
So if it wasn't '87, it was definitely '91. | 3:53:36 | 3:53:40 | |
A few years later, the NHS ran a campaign | 3:53:42 | 3:53:45 | |
to encourage people who had been given transfusions to get tested. | 3:53:45 | 3:53:49 | |
I went along to my GP at the time then, | 3:53:50 | 3:53:54 | |
to enquire, to just be told to... | 3:53:54 | 3:53:57 | |
"Don't be silly, you won't have that." | 3:53:59 | 3:54:01 | |
Um...which made me feel like a silly little child | 3:54:01 | 3:54:05 | |
that was just wasting somebody's time. | 3:54:05 | 3:54:08 | |
If Michelle had been tested in the 1990s, | 3:54:09 | 3:54:12 | |
she could have been treated sooner. | 3:54:12 | 3:54:15 | |
She wasn't diagnosed until the end of 2015. | 3:54:15 | 3:54:18 | |
Within six months, she was too ill to work. | 3:54:18 | 3:54:22 | |
I get angry days - really, really angry - | 3:54:22 | 3:54:25 | |
where I feel like...I'm being deprived of my life. | 3:54:25 | 3:54:31 | |
Michelle was put on a course of treatment to clear her infection, | 3:54:35 | 3:54:38 | |
but she has had to endure terrible side effects. | 3:54:38 | 3:54:41 | |
-VOICE BREAKING: -I've really got no energy at all. | 3:54:44 | 3:54:49 | |
All I'm doing is sleeping. | 3:54:49 | 3:54:52 | |
Sleeping and sleeping and sleeping. | 3:54:52 | 3:54:55 | |
I've got a really horrible feeling... | 3:54:55 | 3:55:00 | |
that I'm not going to survive this. | 3:55:00 | 3:55:02 | |
I've never felt this emotional before. Ever. | 3:55:06 | 3:55:10 | |
I've still got seven weeks to go. | 3:55:13 | 3:55:17 | |
For people with HIV, | 3:55:25 | 3:55:27 | |
the damage caused by hepatitis C can be even worse. | 3:55:27 | 3:55:31 | |
Adrian has only recently finished his own course of treatment. | 3:55:32 | 3:55:36 | |
He's never developed AIDS, | 3:55:37 | 3:55:38 | |
but he has to keep taking life-saving drugs for his HIV. | 3:55:38 | 3:55:42 | |
In the '80s, he was well enough to get a job in the music industry. | 3:55:45 | 3:55:49 | |
First stage pass was this one here, | 3:55:52 | 3:55:54 | |
which was a UK Bucks Fizz tour. | 3:55:54 | 3:55:57 | |
Subsequently employed by them for about seven years. | 3:55:57 | 3:56:00 | |
I became their tour manager for a little while as well, | 3:56:00 | 3:56:03 | |
which was quite good. | 3:56:03 | 3:56:05 | |
I did Ant and Dec, that's a standout. | 3:56:05 | 3:56:07 | |
Up here we have Mr Gary Numan, of all people. | 3:56:07 | 3:56:11 | |
Some good stuff. I loved every single minute of it. | 3:56:11 | 3:56:14 | |
Then, after four years of UK gigs, | 3:56:15 | 3:56:18 | |
Adrian got his big break - the chance to go on a world tour. | 3:56:18 | 3:56:22 | |
The problem was that I found out I couldn't get insurance. | 3:56:22 | 3:56:26 | |
Because of HIV, I could not go abroad. | 3:56:26 | 3:56:28 | |
The minute I said HIV, over. | 3:56:28 | 3:56:31 | |
I knew then that the game was up. | 3:56:31 | 3:56:34 | |
I was getting a bit poorly. | 3:56:34 | 3:56:36 | |
I kind of backed off from it all, really. | 3:56:36 | 3:56:39 | |
I thought, "Well, I've had my moment," | 3:56:39 | 3:56:43 | |
so my career was cut short. | 3:56:43 | 3:56:45 | |
Dropped a bit of that. | 3:56:49 | 3:56:51 | |
Adrian still helps out occasionally, but it's not a living any more. | 3:56:51 | 3:56:57 | |
That's all I wanted to do. | 3:56:57 | 3:56:59 | |
It's a rock and roll cliche, but it was all about the gig. | 3:56:59 | 3:57:03 | |
I wanted the gig. | 3:57:03 | 3:57:04 | |
Joseph Peaty has been left severely disabled by his illnesses, | 3:57:09 | 3:57:14 | |
and dependant on others for his daily care. | 3:57:14 | 3:57:16 | |
My immune system had got to a point where it was crippled, | 3:57:19 | 3:57:22 | |
and any immunity I had left just went over a cliff. | 3:57:22 | 3:57:27 | |
I was someone who looked like that classical AIDS case. | 3:57:30 | 3:57:34 | |
I looked like I really hadn't got long for this world at all. | 3:57:34 | 3:57:37 | |
Intensive treatment saved Joseph's life, | 3:57:39 | 3:57:42 | |
but he had to give up his job in a school finance department. | 3:57:42 | 3:57:46 | |
I can try and make the best out of life now, such as it is, | 3:57:46 | 3:57:50 | |
there's no way that it's ever going to restore to me | 3:57:50 | 3:57:52 | |
all those hopes and dreams I had as a teenager. | 3:57:52 | 3:57:54 | |
No way I'm going to have a family. | 3:57:54 | 3:57:57 | |
But if I want to carry on, then I've got to keep taking this. | 3:57:57 | 3:58:00 | |
That comes with it a really heavy burden and a reminder, every day, | 3:58:00 | 3:58:06 | |
of what happened and why I reached this point. | 3:58:06 | 3:58:09 | |
Joseph and Adrian have survived, | 3:58:12 | 3:58:15 | |
but of the haemophiliacs who were at Treloar's, | 3:58:15 | 3:58:18 | |
72 have died after being infected with hepatitis C | 3:58:18 | 3:58:22 | |
or HIV or both. | 3:58:22 | 3:58:25 | |
Every year, The Haemophilia Society holds a service | 3:58:30 | 3:58:33 | |
to remember the victims of contaminated blood. | 3:58:33 | 3:58:36 | |
More than 1,200 people with bleeding disorders were infected with HIV, | 3:58:47 | 3:58:52 | |
and around 4,700 were infected with hepatitis C. | 3:58:52 | 3:58:57 | |
Each candle represents a life lost. | 3:58:59 | 3:59:02 | |
Contaminated blood was an international disaster | 3:59:17 | 3:59:20 | |
that cost thousands of lives. | 3:59:20 | 3:59:22 | |
In the 1990s, investigations began to find out who was to blame. | 3:59:24 | 3:59:30 | |
In America, the companies that supplied the infected products | 3:59:33 | 3:59:37 | |
had to pay millions in global out-of-court settlements. | 3:59:37 | 3:59:40 | |
In France, the former health minister | 3:59:42 | 3:59:44 | |
was found guilty of manslaughter, | 3:59:44 | 3:59:46 | |
and the former head of the blood transfusion service | 3:59:46 | 3:59:49 | |
and his deputy were jailed. | 3:59:49 | 3:59:51 | |
In Japan, three company executives went to prison, | 3:59:52 | 3:59:56 | |
and a former top official in the health ministry | 3:59:56 | 3:59:58 | |
was convicted on a charge of negligence resulting in death. | 3:59:58 | 4:00:02 | |
In Britain, nothing like that happened... | 4:00:04 | 4:00:08 | |
..and no-one was held responsible. | 4:00:09 | 4:00:12 | |
The victims and their families | 4:00:12 | 4:00:14 | |
were left wanting answers from the government. | 4:00:14 | 4:00:17 | |
Why did they keep importing American products | 4:00:18 | 4:00:22 | |
knowing that people were getting infected with HIV? | 4:00:22 | 4:00:26 | |
They knew the risks when they imported it. | 4:00:26 | 4:00:28 | |
They've devastated so many families and they're still burying | 4:00:28 | 4:00:32 | |
their head in the sand and denying any knowledge. | 4:00:32 | 4:00:34 | |
It took more than 20 years for the first inquiry to be held in the UK. | 4:00:35 | 4:00:41 | |
It was chaired by Lord Archer and reported in 2009. | 4:00:41 | 4:00:45 | |
The procrastination in achieving national self-sufficiency | 4:00:45 | 4:00:50 | |
had disastrous consequences. | 4:00:50 | 4:00:52 | |
Lord Archer criticised the government | 4:00:53 | 4:00:55 | |
for being slow to react to the crisis, | 4:00:55 | 4:00:57 | |
but he didn't find anyone to blame. | 4:00:57 | 4:00:59 | |
The Archer Inquiry was not a statutory inquiry. | 4:01:01 | 4:01:04 | |
It couldn't compel witnesses to attend, | 4:01:04 | 4:01:07 | |
and none of the ministers or civil servants | 4:01:07 | 4:01:10 | |
who dealt with the crisis did. | 4:01:10 | 4:01:11 | |
In Scotland, there was an official inquiry, | 4:01:14 | 4:01:17 | |
chaired by Lord Penrose, which took six years and cost £12 million. | 4:01:17 | 4:01:23 | |
But his report focused on Scotland, | 4:01:23 | 4:01:25 | |
and, once again, no-one from Westminster gave evidence. | 4:01:25 | 4:01:29 | |
Lord Penrose concluded that in Scotland, in relation to AIDS, | 4:01:31 | 4:01:35 | |
all that could reasonably be done was done, | 4:01:35 | 4:01:39 | |
and no-one was to blame. | 4:01:39 | 4:01:41 | |
Many of the victims were furious. | 4:01:41 | 4:01:43 | |
..service cover-up! | 4:01:45 | 4:01:48 | |
But it did prompt an apology from the Prime Minister. | 4:01:48 | 4:01:52 | |
I would like to say sorry on behalf of the government | 4:01:52 | 4:01:55 | |
for something that should not have happened. | 4:01:55 | 4:01:57 | |
Pardon? | 4:01:57 | 4:01:59 | |
Is that...? Six, seven... Is that all you're going to give us? | 4:01:59 | 4:02:03 | |
You're going to give us nothing. Nothing. | 4:02:03 | 4:02:07 | |
We were shocked. Shocked, shocked, shocked. | 4:02:07 | 4:02:11 | |
But after the Penrose report, | 4:02:11 | 4:02:12 | |
one thing became clear - | 4:02:12 | 4:02:14 | |
in England, where the government relied on American Factor VIII, | 4:02:14 | 4:02:18 | |
haemophiliacs were twice as likely to be infected with HIV | 4:02:18 | 4:02:22 | |
as those in Scotland, which made almost all its own supplies. | 4:02:22 | 4:02:26 | |
If you look at the difference in England and Scotland | 4:02:28 | 4:02:32 | |
in terms of the outcomes... | 4:02:32 | 4:02:34 | |
..you have to conclude that... | 4:02:35 | 4:02:37 | |
..it was not unavoidable. It was avoidable. | 4:02:39 | 4:02:42 | |
If you're a haemophilia doctor, it was beyond your control, | 4:02:44 | 4:02:48 | |
but in terms of the broad thrust of the difference between | 4:02:48 | 4:02:51 | |
England and Scotland, that's about government. | 4:02:51 | 4:02:54 | |
That's about government. | 4:02:57 | 4:02:59 | |
The truth about that has not yet been told. | 4:02:59 | 4:03:02 | |
Campaigners agree that despite the Archer and Penrose Inquiries, | 4:03:04 | 4:03:08 | |
ministers have never been properly held to account. | 4:03:08 | 4:03:11 | |
The former health minister Kenneth Clarke | 4:03:14 | 4:03:16 | |
would not give us an interview, | 4:03:16 | 4:03:17 | |
but he told us that blood products | 4:03:17 | 4:03:19 | |
were never his area of responsibility | 4:03:19 | 4:03:21 | |
and he would have attended the Penrose Inquiry if he'd been asked. | 4:03:21 | 4:03:25 | |
Jason is now trying to find out for himself | 4:03:30 | 4:03:33 | |
how his father came to be infected. | 4:03:33 | 4:03:35 | |
He expected the answers to be in his father's medical records. | 4:03:37 | 4:03:41 | |
My dad actually tried to get his medical records | 4:03:41 | 4:03:45 | |
at a time when there would have been obviously a legal obligation | 4:03:45 | 4:03:50 | |
on the hospital to have these records, however, | 4:03:50 | 4:03:54 | |
despite many attempts, he never actually got the medical records. | 4:03:54 | 4:03:59 | |
The best he got was this 11-page summary. | 4:03:59 | 4:04:04 | |
When Jason contacted the hospital 25 years later, | 4:04:04 | 4:04:07 | |
they told him they had no records at all for his father. | 4:04:07 | 4:04:11 | |
Had I never met the rest of the affected community, | 4:04:13 | 4:04:16 | |
I probably could have accepted that and thought, "Out of time, too bad." | 4:04:16 | 4:04:22 | |
Then when I speak to the rest of the community, | 4:04:22 | 4:04:26 | |
almost every single one has exactly the same story, | 4:04:26 | 4:04:29 | |
and I don't think you can help but be suspicious. | 4:04:29 | 4:04:33 | |
But Panorama has discovered | 4:04:35 | 4:04:37 | |
the hospital does still have records for Jonathan Evans. | 4:04:37 | 4:04:40 | |
Three volumes of them. | 4:04:41 | 4:04:44 | |
Jason has now requested copies once more. | 4:04:44 | 4:04:47 | |
It's not only medical records that have proved hard to find. | 4:04:50 | 4:04:54 | |
It came as quite a surprise to me, | 4:04:54 | 4:04:57 | |
following my departure from the Haemophilia Society, | 4:04:57 | 4:05:00 | |
to learn that the files connected with the HIV crisis, | 4:05:00 | 4:05:05 | |
correspondence with members, | 4:05:05 | 4:05:08 | |
correspondence with the Department of Health, had all been destroyed. | 4:05:08 | 4:05:14 | |
You're bound to ask the question - why? | 4:05:14 | 4:05:17 | |
The trail of disappearing documents leads | 4:05:19 | 4:05:21 | |
right to the heart of government. | 4:05:21 | 4:05:24 | |
When David Owen asked for his ministerial papers | 4:05:24 | 4:05:27 | |
from the Department of Health, he was told that they'd been destroyed. | 4:05:27 | 4:05:31 | |
There are many of us who think that one of the reasons why you | 4:05:35 | 4:05:37 | |
can't get out a lot of these documents | 4:05:37 | 4:05:39 | |
was they cleaned them up | 4:05:39 | 4:05:40 | |
because there was a panic going around the world | 4:05:40 | 4:05:43 | |
in the middle '80s | 4:05:43 | 4:05:45 | |
that these issues would reach court. | 4:05:45 | 4:05:48 | |
The Department of Health told us Lord Archer had found | 4:05:52 | 4:05:55 | |
that no documents had been destroyed maliciously, | 4:05:55 | 4:05:58 | |
and there was no evidence of missing or amended medical records. | 4:05:58 | 4:06:02 | |
No evidence has been found of government negligence either. | 4:06:06 | 4:06:09 | |
But if it were, the victims could claim compensation, | 4:06:11 | 4:06:15 | |
which, they say, should be much more than the financial support they currently receive. | 4:06:15 | 4:06:20 | |
Not enough. We don't have enough. | 4:06:21 | 4:06:24 | |
If they called it compensation and gave us a proper package, | 4:06:24 | 4:06:27 | |
you would buy your house, you will become part of society, | 4:06:27 | 4:06:30 | |
you would not be on the sidelines of society. | 4:06:30 | 4:06:34 | |
That's how the money makes me feel, | 4:06:34 | 4:06:36 | |
that we are on the sidelines of society. | 4:06:36 | 4:06:38 | |
The wounds that exist now don't just come from the initial infections, | 4:06:40 | 4:06:48 | |
they come from the way it's been handled over three decades, | 4:06:48 | 4:06:51 | |
maybe longer. | 4:06:51 | 4:06:54 | |
If they want to heal these wounds properly, | 4:06:54 | 4:06:57 | |
then they've got to stop dealing with us on the cheap. | 4:06:57 | 4:07:02 | |
The Department of Health told us they are paying out | 4:07:05 | 4:07:08 | |
significantly more to victims now than any previous government. | 4:07:08 | 4:07:12 | |
Michelle has had six months of treatment, | 4:07:17 | 4:07:20 | |
and it seems to be working. | 4:07:20 | 4:07:22 | |
But even now it's not known how many others may have been infected | 4:07:22 | 4:07:26 | |
with hepatitis C, but not diagnosed. | 4:07:26 | 4:07:29 | |
So many people out there that are infected and they don't even know. | 4:07:31 | 4:07:35 | |
And as the years are going on, so many people have died, | 4:07:35 | 4:07:40 | |
and are still dying, and... | 4:07:40 | 4:07:43 | |
..I think that's probably what I'll die off in the end. | 4:07:45 | 4:07:48 | |
For three decades, appeals to the government | 4:07:50 | 4:07:53 | |
for a UK-wide public inquiry have fallen on deaf ears, | 4:07:53 | 4:07:57 | |
but in recent weeks the Haemophilia Society has intensified the debate. | 4:07:57 | 4:08:01 | |
They say they now have evidence the society was misled about Factor VIII. | 4:08:02 | 4:08:07 | |
The government, the pharmaceutical industry, | 4:08:09 | 4:08:12 | |
and UK doctors had information | 4:08:12 | 4:08:14 | |
that was not shared with | 4:08:14 | 4:08:16 | |
the Haemophilia Society and the community, | 4:08:16 | 4:08:19 | |
and that led to tragic consequences. | 4:08:19 | 4:08:21 | |
It's essential that we have an inquiry that can compel witnesses, | 4:08:21 | 4:08:26 | |
that can look and see if there was negligence, | 4:08:26 | 4:08:30 | |
can give the whole picture, | 4:08:30 | 4:08:31 | |
and can lead to compensation for the thousands of families | 4:08:31 | 4:08:34 | |
affected by this. We have to have the truth. | 4:08:34 | 4:08:37 | |
But public inquiries are lengthy and expensive, | 4:08:39 | 4:08:42 | |
and many people are not in favour. | 4:08:42 | 4:08:44 | |
Personally, I don't think there is any reason to undertake another | 4:08:46 | 4:08:50 | |
public inquiry in this area, I think it would lead to more distress | 4:08:50 | 4:08:54 | |
than it would lead to enlightenment. | 4:08:54 | 4:08:58 | |
It would create really no benefit in my view to anybody - | 4:08:58 | 4:09:02 | |
least of all, I'm afraid, to the people who were affected | 4:09:02 | 4:09:06 | |
at the time and who have my undying sympathy. | 4:09:06 | 4:09:10 | |
The Department of Health agrees. | 4:09:11 | 4:09:14 | |
It says all relevant documents have been released. | 4:09:14 | 4:09:17 | |
And, like her predecessors, Labour and Conservative, | 4:09:18 | 4:09:22 | |
the Prime Minister has ruled out a public inquiry. | 4:09:22 | 4:09:25 | |
# Walk on. Walk on... # | 4:09:28 | 4:09:33 | |
But the outcome of another tragedy might provide a way forward. | 4:09:34 | 4:09:39 | |
For the families of the 96 Liverpool fans who died at Hillsborough, | 4:09:39 | 4:09:42 | |
justice was achieved after an independent panel of inquiry | 4:09:42 | 4:09:46 | |
investigated the disaster. | 4:09:46 | 4:09:48 | |
Andy Burnham helped set it up. | 4:09:48 | 4:09:50 | |
Because it wasn't an adversarial courtroom process, | 4:09:52 | 4:09:55 | |
I think in the end it allows the truth to find its way out. | 4:09:55 | 4:09:59 | |
And I feel the same is needed here, | 4:10:00 | 4:10:03 | |
so that people can understand what has happened. | 4:10:03 | 4:10:06 | |
And in his final speech in the Commons, Andy Burnham made his case. | 4:10:07 | 4:10:11 | |
From what I know, I believe that this scandal | 4:10:13 | 4:10:18 | |
amounts to a criminal cover-up on an industrial scale. | 4:10:18 | 4:10:23 | |
Following today's debate, I will ask the Secretary of State | 4:10:24 | 4:10:29 | |
to set up a Hillsborough-style inquiry | 4:10:29 | 4:10:32 | |
straight after the general election. | 4:10:32 | 4:10:35 | |
And if the government don't do that, | 4:10:35 | 4:10:38 | |
I will refer the evidence that I have uncovered to the police | 4:10:38 | 4:10:42 | |
and request that a widespread criminal investigation commences. | 4:10:42 | 4:10:46 | |
Jason Evans now feels he has enough evidence to go to court. | 4:10:48 | 4:10:52 | |
I have now decided to instruct a legal firm to take a case | 4:10:52 | 4:10:58 | |
alleging negligence and breach of statutory duty | 4:10:58 | 4:11:01 | |
against the government and various bodies | 4:11:01 | 4:11:04 | |
for their role in this scandal, that ultimately led to | 4:11:04 | 4:11:09 | |
infecting my father with HIV through a product they knew to be dangerous. | 4:11:09 | 4:11:14 | |
I want the truth to go down on record about what happened here. | 4:11:15 | 4:11:19 | |
I think that truth is what everyone needs. | 4:11:19 | 4:11:22 | |
If Jason is successful it could open the way for many others | 4:11:25 | 4:11:29 | |
to get the answers they're still looking for. | 4:11:29 | 4:11:32 | |
It's 27 years since Colin died and we are still fighting. | 4:11:33 | 4:11:38 | |
There's thousands of people that have been, | 4:11:40 | 4:11:43 | |
their lives have been wrecked through imported blood, and | 4:11:43 | 4:11:48 | |
it should never, ever have happened, and I get angry about that. | 4:11:48 | 4:11:53 | |
I just think it's outrageous. | 4:11:54 | 4:11:57 | |
It's astonishing that something of that magnitude | 4:11:57 | 4:12:00 | |
still hasn't warranted an inquiry which the Department of Health | 4:12:00 | 4:12:04 | |
have to take part and answer for their actions. | 4:12:04 | 4:12:08 | |
The picture is still not complete, and what is needed is disclosure, | 4:12:09 | 4:12:13 | |
if they're ever going to bring about any form of healing at all | 4:12:13 | 4:12:17 | |
before everybody's dead and buried. | 4:12:17 | 4:12:19 |