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Marine Le Pen wants to be president of France. Everyone on the right is | :00:00. | :00:12. | |
behind her. Because she's our last chance to save the country. After | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
Brexit, after Trump, she wants to be the next shock to the establishment. | :00:17. | :00:27. | |
Marine presents herself as the new face of a patriotic mainstream, but | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
the toxic legacy of her father still looms large. We reveal controversial | :00:33. | :00:45. | |
money men working behind-the-scenes. We are talking about very radical | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
ideas. Such as? Anti-Semitism. It's clear. From moss toe to Trump Tower, | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
we speak to fixers looking for loans. Some of the people they were | :00:57. | :01:03. | |
there, they could have contributed $1 million without blinking an eye. | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
And we ask - what is the true extent of her relationship with the | :01:08. | :01:08. | |
Kremlin? This is a secret. Our story begins in Lyon, | :01:09. | :01:35. | |
traditionally a bastion of the far right in France. Marine Le Pen is | :01:36. | :01:44. | |
launching her bid to become president of the republic. What | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
would you like her to change first of all in France, if she becomes | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
president? To change? The first thing to change, immigration. | :01:56. | :02:03. | |
Riding a global wave of anti-establishment feeling, Le Pen's | :02:04. | :02:10. | |
popularity has surged. She could top the poll in the first round of the | :02:11. | :02:19. | |
election later this month. We're at home, this is our country, that's | :02:20. | :02:28. | |
what they're singing. Marine Le Pen wants to ditch the euro, perhaps | :02:29. | :02:35. | |
take France out of the EU. She's anti-Nato, Andy globalisation. But | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
the subjects she's most vocal on are immigration, radical Islam and what | :02:43. | :02:43. | |
it means to be French. Le Pen aspires to lead a patriotic | :02:44. | :03:15. | |
movement for the modern age. But her party, the Front National, has a | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
troubling past, with historic links to Nazi collaborators and violent | :03:21. | :03:28. | |
far-right movements. Meet the party's founder, Marine's | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
father, Jean-Marie Le Pen. He's a former foreign Legionnaire, a | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
veteran of France's colonial wars, who's been fined for racism and | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
Holocaust denial. Since Marine took over from her | :03:45. | :04:07. | |
father in 2011, she's tried to ditch the party's violent, racist image. | :04:08. | :04:18. | |
In her campaign videos, she's focussed on issues of social | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
welfare. In French, they call this makeover | :04:22. | :04:37. | |
de-diablolisation, casting out the devil. She's dropped the name Le Pen | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
from her campaign. These days she is, simply, Marine. Two years ago, | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
she even expelled her own father from the party. A trouble maker and | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
provocateur who built a political dynasty that became synonymous with | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
racism and anti-Semitism. Marine Le Pen has put in place this | :05:00. | :05:28. | |
process that she called de-diablolisation, what do you make | :05:29. | :05:41. | |
of that? This is the tension in the Front National, between the old | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
radicals and the modernisers. To win the election, Marine Le Pen knows | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
she needs to broaden her appeal. In the town of Frejus, on the south | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
coast, Front National activist, Sonia Lauvard and her group of | :05:58. | :06:00. | |
supporters are helping her do just that. Every Sunday morning, they | :06:01. | :06:11. | |
walk the local market speaking to shoppers. | :06:12. | :06:37. | |
Their efforts to detoxify the brand seem to be working. Marine Le Pen's | :06:38. | :06:45. | |
party now controls 14 town councils nationwide. | :06:46. | :06:58. | |
In Frejus, the local mayor is also Marine Le Pen's presidential | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
campaign manager. The things that people fear about | :07:04. | :07:19. | |
you is that you're anti-Semitic, Islamophobic. | :07:20. | :07:34. | |
But Le Pen's efforts to detoxify the party haven't persuaded the French | :07:35. | :07:42. | |
establishment. And that's left the Front National desperately short of | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
money. The Front National needs around 20 | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
million euros to fund its campaigns this year alone. But because of its | :07:50. | :08:00. | |
racist and anti-Semitic past, French banks won't lend it money. So Marine | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
Le Pen's financing options are limited. | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
She's already had to go crawling back to her father, whose toxic | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
reputation she'd rather people forgot about. Recently, he arranged | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
a six million euro loan for the party. | :08:16. | :08:37. | |
Some of the other characters Marine Le Pen has turned to for money | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
wouldn't look out of place in a spy thriller. Frederic Chatillon, rabble | :08:43. | :08:50. | |
rouser turned slick businessman, whose client list has included | :08:51. | :08:57. | |
Bashar al-Assad and Brigitte Bardot. We spotted him at Marine Le Pen's | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
campaign launch. What's he doing talking to senior party figures? It | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
turns out, he and Marine are old friends. Here's Chatillon rallying | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
his supporters in the early 90s, when he was leader of a far right | :09:14. | :09:22. | |
student group known as GUD. It was more or less of a gang, you know. It | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
was just between a political movement and a street fighting gang. | :09:26. | :09:32. | |
At that time, they changed from a tradition Alan I Communist movement | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
to something more radical. So-called anti-Zionism, which, in fact, is | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
merely a code word for anti-Semitism. | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
Mr Chatillon came to the attention of French intelligence. His file | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
from that time lists his activities, including a Nazi salute. In this | :09:51. | :09:58. | |
note you can find all the meetings that Chatillon did in this time. Can | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
you see the Hitler salute, so Nazi salute in 90, during a meeting. You | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
can see that he met Leon Degrelle, which is... This is the former SS | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
officer? Yes, exactly. You can see that he is linked to the skinhead | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
movement in Paris. Today, we're told Frederic Chatillon is part of what's | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
been described as a secret Cabinet around Le Pen. | :10:22. | :10:29. | |
He's absolutely a key player - for the economy of the party, for the | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
networks of the party, in all these meetings I saw this man close to | :10:33. | :10:39. | |
Marine. This is Aymeric Chauprade. He quit the Front National after | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
helping two French pilots, charged with drug smuggling, escape the | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
Dominican Republic. Until then, he was Marine Le Pen's foreign affairs | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
advisor. He says he clashed with her secret cabinet. We are not talking | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
about conservative - class kill conservative ideas. We are talking | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
about very radical ideas. Such as? Anti-Semitism. It's clear. Obsessed | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
by the Jewish power, very anti-Semitic, very radical. Does | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
Marine Le Pen share those views? I don't think Marine Le Pen is | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
anti-Semitic. I'm not sure that Marine Le Pen is really independent | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
from these people. If she doesn't share their views, and she is trying | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
to detoxify the brand, why would she keep them around? I have absolutely | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
no explanation, rational explanation, because rationally | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
speaking, she should have fired them. Because they are very radical | :11:41. | :11:50. | |
people. The explanation, it seems is - follow the money. If you look | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
through the accounts for the Front National's campaigns, you'll find | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
thousands of receipts. But what's weird is that so many of them are | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
from just one company. It's called Riwal and its director is Frederic | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
Chatillon. The Front National told us Mr Chatillon is nothing to do | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
with the party, that Riwal is just a supplier of campaign materials: | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
Posters, leaflets, websites and smartphone apps. But the authorities | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
have been investigating. The first element of this investigation is the | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
role that Riwal is playing with Front National. According to French | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
justice, Riwal is acting like a bank. | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
Prosecutors say the Front National, Riwal and Frederic Chatillon have | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
been complicit in a mutually beneficial scam, involving fraud and | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
miss use of public funds. Because Marine Le Pen did not manage to get | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
financing from French banks, Chatillon, with his agency, Riwal, | :12:56. | :13:03. | |
is acting like a banker in a way. So despite the talk of | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
de-diablolisation - detoxification of the party - one of Le Pen's key | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
money men could be a man who's linked to skinheads and former | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
Nazis. There's no sign or anything to tell you that Mr Chatillon's | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
company is based in this una-assuming building on a quiet | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
back street. This is a company run by an old friend that's absolutely | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
central to the functioning of Marine Le Pen's campaigns. We wanted to ask | :13:33. | :13:40. | |
Mr Chatillon about all of this. We spotted him again, with a colleague, | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
outside the campaign launch. Monsieur, Monsieur. Not keen to | :13:45. | :13:56. | |
talk. Neither he nor the Front National replied to our letters | :13:57. | :14:04. | |
either. A bigger question, perhaps, is Le Pen's relationship with | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
Russia. Moscow never hid its enthusiasm for Donald Trump. Now | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
just weeks before the election, Marine makes a surprise visit to | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
Moscow. -- to the Kremlin. | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
She meets the man suspected of subverting the US presidential race. | :14:26. | :14:43. | |
Was that a smirk on Mr Putin's face? Naghemeh pens seemed not to notice. | :14:44. | :14:52. | |
She spoke out against the EU sanctions on Russia heat deaths | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
Brett Lee once lifted. -- desperately wants lifted. | :14:59. | :15:12. | |
Two days later Russian police broke up in opposition protest. | :15:13. | :15:27. | |
Up to 1000 people were detained. Nothing to do with Le Pen's visit, | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
but this is life in Russia under Vladimir Putin, a leader she says | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
she admires. Marine Le Pen's path to the Kremlin has been years in the | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
making. It was her father who laid the groundwork. He came here almost | :15:38. | :15:39. | |
immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union and began making | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
contact on what was then a newly emerging nationalist right. One of | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
the people Jean Marie Le Pen met back then was Vladimir Zhirinovsky, | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
a die-hard Nationalist who once said the bells of the Russian Orthodox | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
Church should ring out from the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean. | :16:01. | :16:08. | |
This really is the godfather of Russian nationalism. Many of his | :16:09. | :16:17. | |
ideas were far right. But there is more to this | :16:18. | :17:02. | |
relationship than ideology. Remember, the Front National is in | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
desperate need of money. In her search for funding, Marine Le Pen | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
has hired fixers with Russian connections. One of them calls | :17:12. | :17:22. | |
himself "Mr Mission Impossible". Jean-Luc Schaffhauser, a former | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
consultant turned MEP whose contacts range from Vatican insiders to | :17:27. | :17:34. | |
Russian spies. Since Putin was in charge, I was working with Russia. I | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
have information for France in Russia about who is who. In 2014, Mr | :17:40. | :17:50. | |
Schaffhauser brokered alone worth 9 million euros from a bank with links | :17:51. | :17:59. | |
to the Kremlin. These were turbulent times. Russia sent forces into | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
Crimea, then annexed the territory through a referendum. The EU | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
responded with sanctions, but Marine Le Pen publicly defended Moscow, | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
raising suspicions that the money was a quid pro quo. Did you ever | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
have any discussion with Marine Le Pen about Crimea and the situation | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
in Ukraine? No, no. In regard to the loan? I'm trying to understand if | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
there was any suggestion Marine Le Pen's position on Russian | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
politics... Deep but you have to look at the story, always look in | :18:37. | :18:44. | |
the story. Marine Le Pen was, and Jean Marie Le Pen before, was for | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
this cooperation with Russia. They don't change it. It was not | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
political on, it was a commercial loan. But Russia wanted to use | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
Marine Le Pen to legitimise their annexation of Crimea. We know this | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
because hackers published a text exchange apparently from the phone | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
of a Kremlin official to Russian MP. I have the text messages here. We | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
can see on the 17th of March they say, Marine Le Pen has officially | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
recognise the results of the Crimea referendum. That comes the answer, | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
she hasn't disappointed us with a smiley face. And then, we need to | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
find some way of demonstrating our respect to the French. | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
That's important. What did they mean by that? | :19:29. | :19:36. | |
I contacted the Russian MP in the text exchange. At first he agreed to | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
speak to me. But then, he stopped answering his phone. There were two | :19:43. | :19:50. | |
loans totalling 11 million euros. One from that bank with links to the | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
Kremlin, the other through an oligarch accused of helping to | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
finance Russia's war in eastern Ukraine. For me there is no doubt | :19:58. | :20:05. | |
that was authorised by Kremlin. A special operation and special | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
recommendation and request of those businesspeople to help Marine Le | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
Pen. There are in the Kremlin's hands, like instruments, just | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
undertaking one or another specific, specific order, specific operation. | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
The Kremlin told us it had nothing to do with the loans but in Russia | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
business and politics are intertwined. Absolutely true. Why, | :20:28. | :20:38. | |
if the Kremlin say "Never"... It wouldn't have happened? Yes. Without | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
the approval of the Kremlin, it wouldn't have happened? I think, I | :20:45. | :20:50. | |
think. So what is Marine Le Pen's relationship with the Kremlin? In | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
public, she is denied meeting Mr Putin before this recent visit to | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
Moscow. Here she is speaking to Newsnight just last week. | :20:59. | :21:10. | |
But we've heard something different, and not just from anyone. It's | :21:11. | :21:22. | |
Vladimir! When we met Marine's father back in February, let | :21:23. | :21:23. | |
something slip. To be clear, this was before the | :21:24. | :21:55. | |
public meeting in the Kremlin last month. Others who were close to | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
Marine Le Pen told us the same thing. She told me that she met | :22:00. | :22:08. | |
Putin, but I do not have the proof... But she told you? She told | :22:09. | :22:14. | |
me. But the Kremlin told us Marine Le Pen and Vladimir Putin never met | :22:15. | :22:21. | |
before. Someone is lying, but who, and why? I understand that she did | :22:22. | :22:29. | |
meet Putin. This is a secret. LAUGHTER | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
What can I say? Did she tell you she met Putin? All the discussion cannot | :22:34. | :22:41. | |
be... There are little secrets, and this secret, I don't know this | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
secret. Secrets are secrets. Last week it was revealed the Front | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
National applied for yet another Russian loan in 2016. Marine Le Pen | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
maintains she's never been influenced by Russian money. | :22:59. | :23:15. | |
But the mystery of her relationship with Putin casts a shadow over her | :23:16. | :23:24. | |
campaign, amid fears about the Kremlin's attempts to interfere in | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
elections, from Europe to the United States. | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
The victory of Donald Trump brought an unexpected shift in the political | :23:34. | :23:41. | |
landscape. A week before the inauguration, Le Pen popped up in | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
Trump Tower. No big deal, apparently. | :23:46. | :23:54. | |
But what was she doing huddled in the cafe? The visit was arranged by | :23:55. | :24:04. | |
this man... Guido Lombardi, friend of the European far right, also | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
friend of Donald Trump and his neighbour. He organised a | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
fundraising cocktail party for Le Pen. I spoke to him via video link. | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
We had between 35 and 40 guests at my apartment at Trump Tower. Some of | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
them were Americans, of course, from Wall Street. Some of the people that | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
were there, they could have contributed $1 million without even, | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
you know, blinking an eye. We don't know whether Mr Lombardi's friends | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
lent Le Pen any money, but through him Marine Le Pen now has a direct | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
link to the president of the United States. So I talked to Donald | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
personally, I took to Steve Bannon, I talked to Priebus. I told all of | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
them, she is coming, she is coming my place. What did Donald Trump say? | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
He said, oh, I like her. Donald Trump was not the cocktail party, | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
though we've been told Le Pen or members of her team met with friends | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
of Trump at a later, private meeting. But it seems Marine Le Pen | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
herself is still too toxic for Donald Trump. I would be the first | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
one to tell Donald, don't meet her. It is, the connection is still too | :25:20. | :25:26. | |
much, fresh. Even though she kicked the father out of the party, but it | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
still somehow the party her father started. | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
Some people, it seems, just don't buy the idea that the party of Le | :25:38. | :25:44. | |
Pen has really changed, and that includes some on the very extremes | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
of the far right. In Paris we met a group called Dissidence Francaise. | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
They describe themselves as white nationalists and fascists. | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
Can you hear that? This small group is an affiliated | :26:03. | :26:13. | |
with the Front National. But their slogan, our people before other | :26:14. | :26:20. | |
people, is borrowed word for word from one of Marine Le Pen's, from | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
the last presidential election. Who are you voting for and why? For | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
Marine, of course. Pretty much everyone on the right is behind her, | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
because she is our last chance to save the country. So yes, of course, | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
we support her. Dissidence Francaise believe there is a Zionist led | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
conspiracy to commit what they called White genocide, by flooding | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
Europe with immigrants. In an attempt to prove her point, Electre | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
took me to a nearby Paris neighbourhood. When you look around | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
here, you can barely see a white person. I mean the demographics, the | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
numbers were talking, they will be taking over in less than 20 years. | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
Europe isn't going to be white or European animal. It's not going to | :27:12. | :27:18. | |
look like this here. That was the language of the old Front National, | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
but some of Electre's views are closer to Marine's rhetoric. These | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
people hate us, so they can go away. It's the only solution. Do you think | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
Marine agrees with you on that? I think she agrees but I think she | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
cannot say. Maybe one day she well. The Front National says such views | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
have no place in the modern party, and yet Marine Le Pen apparently | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
gives off in a far right pheromones to attract people like Electre. | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
Polls suggest Le Pen will make it through the first round of the | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
election this month, into the second round run off in May. A movement | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
that was once on the fringes now stands on the cusp of power. | :28:01. | :28:23. | |
Even if she fails in her bid for the presidency, Marine is part of a | :28:24. | :28:31. | |
changing political landscape. But, for all the talk of | :28:32. | :28:34. | |
de-diabolisation, the Front National is still the party of Le Pen, and | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
the devil is in the details. | :28:39. | :28:41. |