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Tonight, the scandal at the top of Britain's banking establishment

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caught on tape.

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Interest rates were rigged.

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There are calls for an inquiry into whether Parliament was misled.

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That is shocking. We need an immediate inquiry

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to look into exactly who knew what, when.

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Last week, two Barclays bankers walked free from court.

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-How are you feeling?

-Delighted.

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But what about the bankers accused of conspiring with them

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who've been jailed?

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Barclays, they just threw us to the wolves.

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They get off with their fine while we rot in jail.

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We ask, should they have been prosecuted?

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'You've got the Bank of England involved in the whole thing.'

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It's my opinion that if this was available last year,

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the result might have been very different.

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-Stylianos. How are you feeling?

-Delighted.

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Last week, two former Barclays traders,

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Ryan Reich and Stylianos Contogoulas, walked free from court,

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cleared of conspiracy to defraud by rigging interest rates.

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It was the end of a long battle to clear their names.

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I am very happy, obviously, and this has been

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five and a half years of my life,

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and I just want to go back to my family now. That's it.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you, thank you.

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Sometimes I look at it and I think I'm in a bad movie. It's like...

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It's just something completely...

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If you'd told me this ten years ago, I would say, "You're mad."

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It's destroyed big parts of my life, like my career, totally gone.

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I'm very sad that people are in jail when they shouldn't be,

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that's my opinion.

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The acquittals raised serious questions about the convictions

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of four other Barclays bankers who Stylianos Contogoulas

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was accused of conspiring with.

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They were convicted and jailed last June.

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Four ex-employees of Barclay Bank

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have been sentenced to jail for rigging Libor,

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the benchmark for how much it costs banks to borrow from each other.

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'I've been investigating this story for the last 18 months.'

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I just can't believe it, at this age, my son goes to jail?

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Jay Merchant, who's 45,

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he was sentenced to six and a half years.

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Peter Johnson, who's 61, was sentenced to four years.

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Jonathan, do you have anything to say?

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Jonathan Mathew, 35, was sentenced to four years.

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How are you feeling about it?

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-Not great.

-Not great.

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And Alex Pabon, an American who worked for Barclays.

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He was sentenced to nearly three years.

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I don't know what you want, you want your Cheerios?

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-Oh, God!

-Oh, yeah.

-OK.

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Just two hours before he was jailed,

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he and his wife Julie agreed to speak to me.

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I never thought that what we were doing was wrong.

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We've been saying the same story for ten years.

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They didn't do anything wrong.

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I don't know what will happen from here, you know?

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It's just very scary and I feel like it could happen to anyone

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to be honest, you know.

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Alex Pabon and the other Barclays bankers were all prosecuted

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over rigging an interest rate called Libor.

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The London Interbank Offered Rate is meant to track

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the cost of borrowing money.

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It has a big influence on your mortgage and other loans.

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Libor is now more tightly policed,

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but until recently it used to be set by taking an average each day

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of what the big banks thought they'd have to pay to borrow money.

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Libors, if you like, are interest rates.

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That is THE major benchmark for global interest rates.

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350 trillion or so of financial products based on Libor,

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it is the major global benchmark for interest rates.

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The very same banks involved in setting Libor

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had big money staked on whether Libor went up or down.

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If a trader could influence the rate, the bank could make money.

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It's been called trader manipulation.

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The convicted Barclays traders say that what they were doing

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was encouraged by their bosses,

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a normal commercial practice dating back to the '90s.

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In the City, it was common knowledge for years that traders

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would try to secure tiny shifts in Libor rates every day.

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Pippa Malmgrem is a leading US financial expert,

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and was an economic advisor to President Bush.

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When you work on a trading floor,

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your whole job is to buy

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something for one price and you sell it for something a little higher.

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This is the way every trader on a trading floor thinks.

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So when they're asked to establish a rate,

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they're thinking in terms of the two sides,

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and so this is their attempt to create a little space

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because you always want to make money on the deal.

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The way I saw it was, it was perfectly OK to do it.

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It was almost like what we call a free option,

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you might as well do it. You can do it, it's perfectly normal

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and proper, you can do it.

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If it works, great, if not, that's it.

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In August 2007, the world changed.

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Global financial markets went into meltdown.

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British banking was on the brink.

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Tonight at Ten:

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Northern Rock appeals for calm and urges its customers not to panic.

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Banks became scared of lending to each other,

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worried they wouldn't get their money back.

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The market seized up. The economy was heading towards a crisis.

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Not since the beginning of the First World War

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has our banking system been so close to collapse.

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Whenever you have a major financial crisis, you always have what

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might be called the recrimination phase of the economic cycle

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which is when everybody goes,

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"Wait, how the heck did this happen and who is responsible for it?"

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The public and politicians on both sides of the Atlantic

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wanted to know what had gone on, and who was to blame.

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Banks had to be called to account.

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Financial regulators targeted

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the so-called trader manipulation of Libor.

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Whee!

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Tom Hayes was the very first trader to be jailed for it,

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found guilty of conspiracy to defraud.

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He was working for the Swiss bank UBS.

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Tom Hayes is now in prison.

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-I feel angry about it.

-Why?

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Because Daddy shouldn't be in his new place, should he?

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We call it Daddy's new place.

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That new place is Lowdham Grange Prison in Nottinghamshire

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where Tom Hayes is serving 11 years.

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The sentence is just inexplicable.

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What does it compare with? What are you talking about?

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I think you can get less time for killing somebody.

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Sarah, a lawyer, is fighting to get her husband released.

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All I really want is for the truth to come out,

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because if the truth came out, I think he would come out of prison,

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but the truth has never come out about this.

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Tom Hayes had a reputation as a trading superstar.

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He earned millions.

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From his base in Tokyo, he had a network of London brokers

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who he tried to use to make small changes to Libor.

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One of them was Noel Cryan.

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He was the biggest trader at the time,

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he had power over not only the brokers

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but other traders were scared of him as well.

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He would always take advantage of that.

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Tom Hayes started asking Noel to try to influence Libor.

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The requests Tom Hayes was making were tiny,

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but because his bank had billions staked on Libor,

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even a minuscule move could make big money.

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Everyone knew there is this very important benchmark out there,

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that the banks were in charge of setting and lots of traders,

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making their living was based on playing with that

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and no-one made any effort to stop that or impose order on it.

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Tom Hayes said he HAD tried to influence Libor,

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like the Barclays traders who later followed him into the dock.

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But they all said it was a day-to-day banking practice,

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something their bosses expected them to do.

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Tom Hayes says he should never have been prosecuted

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by the Serious Fraud Office, or SFO.

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There's e-mails, there are phone recordings,

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there are chat transcripts,

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that show that people up and down the organisational ladders

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knew about, condoned, in some cases participated in what was going on.

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Don't forget, Tom Hayes never made any secret of it.

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He was completely open. He never acted once like a man

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who thought he was doing anything wrong or illegal.

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Noel Cryan and five other brokers were later charged with

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conspiring with Tom Hayes.

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They told the court they hadn't done what he'd asked them to do.

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They were all acquitted.

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We've been scapegoated in the whole thing.

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They've gone to the bottom of the food chain, the brokers, six brokers

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answering the Libor question.

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Really? If there's things to be answered,

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WE shouldn't be answering the questions.

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The SFO need to ask themselves, should they have wasted

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that much time and money bringing this case

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against six money brokers? I don't think so.

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UBS, Tom Hayes's employer,

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was fined 1.5 billion for allowing its traders to attempt to rig Libor.

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UBS told us, "Criminal and regulatory investigations..."

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But UBS wasn't the only bank punished for manipulating Libor.

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Barclays Bank was fined £290 million.

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A week later, its boss, Bob Diamond, was forced to resign.

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The bank's Chief Executive, Bob Diamond,

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has surprised the City by quitting with immediate effect.

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When MPs demanded to know what had been going on,

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Bob Diamond told them a handful of traders

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down the ranks deserved to be punished.

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Do you think a criminal prosecution of a banker...

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He was asked whether those bankers should be locked up.

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It's reprehensible behaviour,

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and if you're asking me should those actions be dealt with, absolutely.

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Thank you very much indeed.

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But throwing the book at a handful of bankers is not where this story ends.

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Hundreds of miles from the City in Cumbria,

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a family of caravan park owners were about to discover evidence of

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what looked like a cover-up at the top of the banking establishment.

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In 2005, Paul Holgate and his father Martin

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wanted to borrow £3.5 million to expand their business.

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We were recommended to move to Barclays.

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It was absolutely fine, it was very good long-term prospects.

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Barclays lent the money on condition the Holgates bought

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a financial product to protect them against rising interest rates.

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What Barclays didn't tell them was that if interest rates went down,

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they'd end up losing money. Lots of money.

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That's where the problems arose.

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Because the liabilities they put on us were incredible.

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Interest rates plummeted and in 2012, the business went under.

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I was thrown off the park that day,

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when the administrators were sprung upon us.

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I had some clothing in an overnight bag,

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and for the next 14 months I had to make do with the clothes in that bag

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because the administrators wouldn't even let me

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obtain my own clothes.

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After Barclays boss Bob Diamond resigned over Libor,

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the Holgates began investigating.

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If they could prove that senior people inside Barclays

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knew about Libor rigging, they might get compensation.

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During their legal case against the bank,

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they discovered thousands of confidential documents

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from inside Barclays.

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We've been fighting the bank for seven to eight years.

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You have to have...great tenacity

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to be able to carry this through.

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Most people can't do it.

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The documents revealed that senior managers within the bank

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had instructed staff to rig Libor.

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This wasn't about the tiny shifts of Libor made by the traders.

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This was massive rigging, ordered from the top of the bank.

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As the banks started running out of cash during the financial crisis,

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most of them started doing something called low balling.

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Deliberately submitting artificially low Libor rates

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so they'd look in better shape than they really were.

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If I asked to borrow £1,000 from you,

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and you'd heard my finances were in a mess,

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you might want to charge me more in interest

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to cover the risk that you don't get your money back.

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But, if I admitted I was paying higher interest rates,

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people might think I was in trouble,

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so I might lie and pretend I was paying no more than anyone else.

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That's what many banks did during the financial crisis.

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The Bank of England had warning signs about this certainly in 2007.

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It's not just like little whispers they were hearing.

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There were unequivocal signs

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that there was something very wrong with this rate.

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In October 2008, the Government launched emergency measures

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to get stricken banks lending again.

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It's been a tumultuous day,

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it started with the announcement of a giant rescue package

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for the British banking sector.

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The Government pumped £37 billion of capital into the troubled banks.

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It was part of a huge rescue plan.

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If it worked, Libor would fall.

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But it stayed frozen.

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The problem for the Bank of England was even with a huge bailout,

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the banks knew they were all in trouble.

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It still wasn't getting any cheaper for them to borrow money from

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each other, and Barclays kept their Libor rate high to reflect that.

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The Bank of England wasn't happy.

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On 29th October, 2008, its then executive director Paul Tucker

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phoned up the Barclays boss, Bob Diamond.

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A conversation was had.

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That conversation was interpreted by Barclays,

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by senior people within Barclays,

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as an instruction to lower their Libors and they acted on that.

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This leads to a flurry of phone calls and e-mails between

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senior people, traders, Libor submitters at Barclays.

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Bob Diamond has said he was misinterpreted,

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but an instruction to lower Libors

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was passed down to the bank's submitters.

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One of those submitters was Peter Johnson.

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He pleaded guilty to manipulating Libor

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and is now serving four years in prison.

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During the Holgates' investigation,

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they found the transcript of a phone call

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between Peter Johnson and his boss, Mark Dearlove.

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It also happened on 29th October, 2008.

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I've got hold of the actual recording,

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crucial evidence that Barclays was setting false Libor rates

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on instructions from above.

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It's never been broadcast before.

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Mark Dearlove didn't respond to our questions.

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Chris Philp is a member of the House of Commons Treasury Select Committee.

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We played him the recording.

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-What do you think?

-If what Dearlove is saying is true, that is shocking.

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This tape suggests that in fact the Bank of England knew about it

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and indeed were encouraging or even instructing it.

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So we need an immediate inquiry to find out exactly what is going on,

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given what we've just heard on this tape.

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The banking system was on life support

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and the Bank of England wanted Libor down.

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If it dropped, it would look like things were on the mend.

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Banks were so unwilling to lend to each other...

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But when Mervyn King, the then Governor of the Bank of England,

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was called to answer questions before Parliament in 2012,

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he said there was no instruction to doctor the Libor rate.

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This is like the temperature, when a patient is sick,

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you want to bring the temperature of the patient down.

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But there's a world of difference between trying to think of

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what measures you could adopt to bring the temperature

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of the patient down and actually tampering with the thermometer.

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That was nowhere near anyone's thoughts at the time.

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But tampering with that thermometer, Libor,

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is exactly what the Bank of England had ordered.

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We were not aware...

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Mervyn King's second in command at the Bank of England was Paul Tucker.

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Despite making that call to Barclays boss, Bob Diamond, back in 2008,

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he told MPs he'd only just found out about low balling.

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In your recollection, when was the first time that Libor was raised

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as an issue in relation to low balling?

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-To...?

-Low balling.

-Erm...

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The...

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I mean, I wasn't aware of allegations of low balling

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until the last few weeks.

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Ditto Bob Diamond.

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For the third time, what month did you discover

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-the low balling was going on? Just give me a date.

-This month.

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'It sounds to me like those people giving evidence,

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'particularly Bob Diamond and Paul Tucker, were misleading Parliament.

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'That is contempt of Parliament.'

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It's a very serious matter and I think we need to urgently

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summon those individuals back before Parliament to explain

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why it is they appear to have misled MPs. It's extremely serious.

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Bob Diamond told Panorama, "I never misled Parliament.

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"And I stand by everything I have said previously."

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Mervyn King says that his evidence was clear and he stands by it.

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And that there is "a world of difference

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"between dysfunctional markets and criminal behaviour".

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Paul Tucker didn't respond to our questions.

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But Panorama has discovered evidence that the Bank of England

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was involved in Libor rigging even earlier.

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We found a confidential US Department of Justice document

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that shows Paul Tucker began pressuring Barclays

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to lower its Libor rates from September 1st, 2007.

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You've now got two separate bits of evidence,

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one dating from October 2008,

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one dating from September 2007, over a year before,

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where there's clear evidence, audio evidence and written evidence,

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that the Bank of England were pressuring Barclays to lower Libor.

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It suggests that it was part of a more systematic

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and ongoing attempt by the Bank of England

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to put pressure on Barclays.

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But the trials of the Barclays bankers didn't get to hear this,

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and much of the other evidence of low balling,

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because the Serious Fraud Office said their Libor conspiracy

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had come to an end on 1st September, 2007.

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That's the thing, in these trials that we went through,

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they separated everything.

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Separated trading requests and low balling.

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So anything that has to do with this did not go in.

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So you're asking me, do I think if all this was in,

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would it make a difference? Erm...

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Probably, is the answer.

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-SHE SNIFFLES

-OK.

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Alex Pabon was one of the Barclays bankers jailed last summer.

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He was released from prison three weeks ago and immediately

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deported to his home in Texas.

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He still thinks he didn't get a fair trial.

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What effect do you think it had on your case that they didn't bring in

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what we know about your bosses and the Bank of England doing that?

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The failure to

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not put in front of the jury specific evidence

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really hamstrung the defence on how we could respond to

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what the prosecution was saying.

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What's the scale of the difference between what you might have achieved

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by making a Libor request

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and what your bosses and the Bank of England might have achieved?

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We were asking for an eighth of a basis point

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and they were asking for 50 basis points, so about 400 times more.

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The Bank of England says Libor was not regulated in the UK

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or elsewhere during the period in question.

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But it's been assisting the criminal investigations

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into Libor manipulation by employees at commercial banks.

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The Serious Fraud Office says it's still investigating low balling.

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It says it follows the evidence

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and aims to charge the most senior people,

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where there is a realistic prospect of conviction.

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The prosecution period, which ended on 1st September, 2007,

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was led by the evidence and material dated after this point

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was provided to the defence.

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The 2008 recording was disclosed to the defence

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but it wasn't admitted into court.

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Barclays, they just threw us to the wolves. They were happy, I think.

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Because they get off with their fine

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and then they get some low level guys that go to jail

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and they just continue to work and make millions of dollars a year,

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while we sit there and rot in jail.

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But there is one more twist in the Libor tale.

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Back in Cumbria, the campsite sleuths

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came across another extraordinary piece of evidence.

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At the height of the financial crisis,

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Barclays sensed an opportunity.

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Having been instructed by the Bank of England to lower its Libor rates,

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it hatched a top-secret plan,

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involving something called the Ricardo Master Fund.

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The goal of Ricardo Master Fund, like all such funds,

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was to make money for the bank.

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They were investing in financial instruments whose performance

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was based on the movement of interest rates.

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Barclays put 100 million of its own money into the secret fund.

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If you look at this, Andy, this is what we've been shown.

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It is a transcript of a telephone conversation at Barclays.

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More evidence that the Bank of England's Paul Tucker

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had told Barclays to get its Libors down.

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"I've been told to get Libor rates down.

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"It's political from very, very high,

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"so it's Tucker calling the tune."

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Because Barclays knew that interest rates would fall,

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the Ricardo Master Fund made 100 million for the bank

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in a matter of months.

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And who was in charge of the Barclays company that ran the fund?

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Bob Diamond.

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The man who told MPs he knew nothing about low balling until 2012.

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For the third time,

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what month did you discover that low balling was going on?

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-Just give me a date.

-This month.

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As the Holgates' caravan business was being destroyed

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by falling interest rates, Barclays was making a killing.

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Barclays didn't answer our questions about the Ricardo Master Fund

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but told us it remains committed to fundamental change

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in its culture and operations.

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The bank reached a financial settlement with the Holgates

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but insisted that the amount of compensation they received

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be kept confidential.

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You just would not think in a country that has the reputation,

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prides itself on being a very, very upstanding,

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honest nation, allows these things not only to happen,

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but they aren't sorted out, just ignored and swept away.

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I think that's the biggest shock, not just what's gone on,

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but the way it's been dealt with afterwards.

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Tom Hayes, the first banker to be jailed, has lost an appeal

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against conviction and is now in his second year behind bars.

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His son Joshua will be eight by the time his father's due to be released.

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It is hard because, you know, when we go to the field,

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I have to kick the football with him

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because his dad's not around to do it.

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Tom Hayes sends his wife and son video messages recorded from prison.

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Hello again, Josh. Hi, Mummy. I hope you're both OK.

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Love you loads, both. See you soon, bye.

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No senior banker in the UK has ever been prosecuted for fixing Libor.

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I think that they don't want to go after the guys at the top,

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so they come for the low guys

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and then just leave the top guys to float away.

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To the bankers who've been prosecuted,

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there's a huge double standard in the Libor blame game.

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It's now clear the scandal of the big bank fix goes far higher than

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the banking establishment ever wanted us to know.

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