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Was Donald Trump helped into the White House by Vladimir Putin? This | 0:00:00 | 0:00:07 | |
is clearly the most serious blow to our democratic system since Water | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
gate. A spy on the run, honey traps, cyberwar. The Kremlin has form. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Russia do this like bread and butter. Trump denies everything and | 0:00:19 | 0:00:26 | |
blames the CIA. That is something that Nazi Germany would do and did | 0:00:27 | 0:00:34 | |
do. We ask what does the Trump/Putin bromance mean for us. It is not | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
going to be business as usual. And what happens if the two leaders fall | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
out. They're behind us. In 2013, Donald Trump's biggest | 0:00:41 | 0:01:05 | |
worry was his golfing handicap. Hello Sir. I was making a film about | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
him and the murky characters he had been doing business with. I'm | 0:01:12 | 0:01:20 | |
playing in a big tournament. I met him in Bedminster in New Jersey. No | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Russian spies here. I have been asking as many provocative questions | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
as possible. I know. I have seen him. He is very provocative. Do you | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
want to take me for a spin on the golf buggy. Experience the wall of | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
Trump charm. I'm glad you came out. I appreciate you taking the time. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:54 | |
I'm just worried about the driver! Bedminster projects the image of | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Donald Trump that millions have bought into - the millionaire with | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
the Midas touch. They are gold. They're gold plated. 24 carat gold. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
BBC health and safety will be watching. Since then, my golfing | 0:02:10 | 0:02:16 | |
partner has gone up in the world. And found a new buddie. If he says | 0:02:17 | 0:02:23 | |
great things about me I will say great things about him. Vladimir | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Putin said Donald Trump is a genius. Why does Trump seem to admire Putin | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
so much? Under his watch countries have been invaded, a passenger jet | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
shot out of the sky and too many of his critics have ended up dead. But | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
for Donald Trump, he is full of compliments. TRANSLATION: Trump is % | 0:02:43 | 0:02:57 | |
very brighted a talent talented. How can we not welcome that. Michael | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
D'Antonio is fascinated by what Trump and Putin might have in | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
common. He lives in a world that he has described as a comic book. He | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
has said that I am the star of my own comic book and I'm the central | 0:03:13 | 0:03:21 | |
character of it. He believes in the superficial extreme images of life. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
He believes he is superman? Or Batman? Or Trumpman. Yes or maybe he | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
is a villain in a story. If you think about Vladimir Putin, he is | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
also a comic book character. He is head of a country whose economy is | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
half that of the state of California. And yet, on the world | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
stage, he looms large, because he has huffed himself up and he is a | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
strong man and Donald admires strong men. He admires the exertion of | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
power and he admires the fact that Putin doesn't seem inhibited about | 0:03:59 | 0:04:08 | |
using it. In the past week the Trump man and the Vladiator have had to | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
deal with a grenade lobbed into their adventures, by a former MI6 | 0:04:13 | 0:04:20 | |
officer. You couldn't make it up. The dossier reportedly written by | 0:04:21 | 0:04:28 | |
Christopher Steele claims Moscow armed Team Trump with information | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
about his opponent and says the Russians have Kompromat on Trump. In | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
English, we would call that blackmail. The dossier is | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
unverified, Trump denies everything and it furious it is out there. I | 0:04:41 | 0:04:48 | |
think it was a disgraceful. That the intelligence agencies allowed any | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
information that turned out to be so false and fake out. And that is | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do. It is a | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
disgrace. Is the dossier fiction, fact or a bit of both. In the | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
shadowy world of free lance intelligence, that is unknowable for | 0:05:07 | 0:05:16 | |
now. In 2013 the Trump-owned Miss Universe circus rolled into Moscow. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
Donald Trump had his own reasons to be excited. He had tweeted. Do you | 0:05:23 | 0:05:30 | |
think Putin will be going to the Miss Universe pageant. Will he | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
become my new friend. A meeting was reportedly set up, but it never | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
happened. But the leaked dossier said a number of prostitutes were | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
provided and hidden cameras recorded everything. Malcolm Nance used to be | 0:05:48 | 0:05:55 | |
an officer in US intelligence and has studied Russian spy craft. Most | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
of the rooms are wired for sound, even if they're not wired, they have | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
sophisticated enough collection systems to where they don't have to | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
be in the room. The intelligence service would have been part of the | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
analysis team that would have been watching him. To determine is Donald | 0:06:13 | 0:06:22 | |
Trump or anyone on his staff someone we could turn into an agent who | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
would work for Russia. Everything in that report fits with how Russian | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
intelligence works. That doesn't mean it is true. But Putin has form | 0:06:31 | 0:06:37 | |
for Kompromat. Back in 2000, Mikhail Kasyanov was Putin's Prime Minister. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
They fell out. And Mikhail Kasyanov became an outspoken leader of the | 0:06:42 | 0:06:49 | |
opposition. Then last year, this video of the married man having sex | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
with his assistant was broadcast on state TV. Mikhail Kasyanov told us | 0:06:54 | 0:07:06 | |
about the latest allegations. I'm almost sure special equipment was | 0:07:07 | 0:07:07 | |
installed. There is no corroborating evidence | 0:07:08 | 0:07:27 | |
for the Kompromat and Trump said he would never have fallen for it. I am | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
careful I'm surrounded by body guards and I always tell them be | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
careful, because in your hotel rooms, and no matter where you go, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
you're going to probably have cameras. Does anyone believe that | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
story? I'm also very much a germaphobe by the way. Believe me. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
But Kompromat is not just about sex. It can be about money. Could the way | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
he does business make him vulnerable to blackmail? He has always wanted | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
to make it big in yaush since his first -- Russia since his first | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
visit in the 80s. But there a problem with business in Russia | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
today. Most money in Russia is connected to gangsterism. Not all of | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
it. But much of it and most of it. If you're doing business with any of | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
the big business groups in Moscow you might deal with people whoo were | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
part of -- who were part of international crime syndicates. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Donald Trump never got a hotel off the ground in Moscow. But Russian | 0:08:35 | 0:08:43 | |
money did ends up in Trump Tower. This is Felix Sater, a | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Russian/American gangster. Before becoming an advisor to Donald Trump | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
in New York he had been to prison for stabbing a man in the face and | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
convicted for his part in a $40 million mafia scam on Wall Street. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:06 | |
Felix Sater escorted Donald Trump junior and Ivanka around Moscow no | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
2006. Why would Trump want him as a partner? Back in 2013, I asked Trump | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
about a property deal that he had did with Felix Sater's company, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
Bayrock. Why didn't you say to him, you're connected with the mafia, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
you're fired. First, we were not the developer. That was a licensing | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
deal. Your name is on it. I don't know. You're telling me things I | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
don't know about. You tell me about Felix Sater. I know who is. For a | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
year, you stayed in bed with Felix Sater and he was connected with the | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
mafia. Again, John, maybe you're thick, but when you have a signed | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
contract, you can't in is in country just break it and I hate to do this, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
but I have that big group of people waiting. One last question please. I | 0:09:55 | 0:10:04 | |
have to leave. Felix Sater told us -- Felix Sater told us he is not and | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
never has been connected with the mob. But these associations leave | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
Donald Trump vulnerable to be be compromised. The leaked dossier | 0:10:15 | 0:10:21 | |
doesn't just suggested that Trump could be black haild. It detailed | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
election hacking and we know this much is now true. I'm in Washington | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
to see the evidence for myself. Welcome. This man's company were the | 0:10:32 | 0:10:45 | |
first to identify hostile code in the computers of Hillary Clinton. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Never never seen an operation like this conducted in the United States. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
He classified foreign agents using animal names. Chinese are pandas, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:04 | |
Russian spies are bears. April 2000 16, Fancy Bear intrudes. That is? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:12 | |
Russian military intelligence. How was Crowdstrike so sure the spies | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
were Russian? What is their proof? This is the actual piece of code | 0:11:17 | 0:11:26 | |
deployed in the DNC. This is indications of internet connections | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
to the mothership. This is your equivalent of the burglar's foot | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
steps in the snow? Yes, looking at this evidence and how this code was | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
written and how we have seen in previous attacks, looking at it the | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
evidence in the course of investigation it gave us confidence | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
that this was indeed Russian intelligence. What is so | 0:11:46 | 0:11:52 | |
extraordinary is that during the campaign, Trump egged on the Russian | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
hackers. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
find the 30,000 e-mails that are missingching I think you will | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let's see if that happens. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:15 | |
That would be nice. There is no doubt that Russia was listening. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:26 | |
Welcome to the citadel of cyberwar. The people who directed the hacking | 0:12:27 | 0:12:34 | |
of American democracy are spread across Moscow and some are based | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
here, the headquarters of the the FSB. Which is the new name for the K | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
GB. Its former boss - Vladimir Putin. The party line in Moscow is | 0:12:45 | 0:12:56 | |
emfatty that rush -- emphatically that Russia did not hack the | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
election. This man is a Russian Senator. A lot of people in the | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
United States, including people in the CIA that say Russian ya hacked | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
America? As far as I read I, it does not point anywhere. Russia did not | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
hack American democracy full stop. Russia did not hack American | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
democracy full stop. But look at this press Conference last months. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
Is that is wink from Putin that he did have a hand in Trump's victory? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
TRANSLATION: No one believed he would win. Except for us! Donald | 0:13:36 | 0:13:45 | |
Trump is the most right-wing candidate of the Republican Party. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Alexander Dugin has been described as Vladimir Putin's philosopher | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
king. He also has his own pro-Clem -- Clem Lynne tooefr show. - | 0:13:58 | 0:14:05 | |
pro-Clem Lynne TV show. This shows that America is on brink of a | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
revolution. Was the election of Donald Trump to | 0:14:08 | 0:14:16 | |
do with Vladimir Putin? You overestimate our capabilities. We | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
are happy that American people has made such a choice, but I am | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
absolutely sure that our influence on the free choice of American | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
people was strictly zero. Absolutely zero? Zero. Some in Team Trump go | 0:14:32 | 0:14:39 | |
along with this. They deny the Russian hacking and blame US | 0:14:40 | 0:14:46 | |
intelligence for spreading the story: The CIA lied to us about | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Benghazi. They lied about Vietnam. They lied to us about the Kennedy | 0:14:51 | 0:14:58 | |
assassination. Their spies, spies -- they're spies, spies lie. It is in | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
their interest to build up this bogeyman of Russia to legitimise | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
Donald Trump's presidency. For an incoming president to favour Russia, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
the old Cold War enemy over the CIA, is unprecedented. One man who used | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
to run the agency thinks Trump may be naivement It could be that -- | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
naive. There is the term of useful idiot that the Russians throw around | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
for someone who goes along with what they are trying to accomplish | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
without thinking very much about it. Whether or not there is any truth to | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
the dossier, the former spy master has a chilling warning for the new | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
president. They may have something that they've learned through cyber | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
espionage that is detrimental to him, his business dealings or his | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
personal standing. I would think it prudent to assume that is the case. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
No computer is safe. I don't care what they say, no computer is safe. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
Since his surprise election victory, Trump's been picking his Cabinet. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Some have been critical of Russia, but others have had curiously close | 0:16:14 | 0:16:21 | |
ties to the Kremlin. Number one, Trump's choice for Secretary of | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
State, Rex Tillerson. As head of Exxon he struck huge oil deals in | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
Russia and received the order of friendship from Putin in 2013. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:39 | |
Number two, retired general Michael Flynn, the new National Security | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
Adviser. He got paid for speaking at a Russia Today event and sat next to | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
Putin. Flynn has denied taking Kremlin cash | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
for his appearance. But a source told Panorama that a typical fee | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
would be tens of thousands of dollars. I didn't take any money | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
from Russia. Well then who paid you? My speaker's pure row. Ask them. -- | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
bureau. Ask them. Number three, Steve Bannon, Trump's new chief | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
strategist and the former editor of the controversial right-wing website | 0:17:20 | 0:17:27 | |
Breitbart. He has sympathy with some of Putin's ideology, especially the | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Kremlin's line on how to fight Isis. They have a Twitter account up today | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
about turning the United States in a river of blood and trust me, that is | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
going to come to Europe. On top of that, we're now, I believe, at the | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
beginning stages of a global war against Islamic fascism. Here's that | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
thought translated into Trump speak. I would bomb the hit out of them. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:58 | |
On Syria, throughout the campaign, Trump has more supportive of | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
Piutau's approach than Obama's. But the problem with fighting Isis the | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Kremlin's way, in places like Aleppo, is that you end up bombing | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
civilians who have nothing to do with Isis. Putin's guru is delighted | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
with Trump's line on Syria. He see it's as part of a new global | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
movement. Trump is realist. Putin is realist. I think his election, it is | 0:18:25 | 0:18:34 | |
sign of the choice, historical choice of American people in favour | 0:18:35 | 0:18:41 | |
of realist attitude towards international relations instead of | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
liberal or globalist. Both Trump and Putin see themselves as strong | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
leaders who put national interests above all. The man Trump wanted as | 0:18:49 | 0:18:56 | |
our ambassador to the States has a handle on what's behind the new | 0:18:57 | 0:19:04 | |
world order. So, why do people on the right admire Vladimir Putin? I | 0:19:05 | 0:19:11 | |
think it's a question of people who believe in nation-state democracy | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
have admiration for Vladimir Putin. What we've had is decades of our | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
political leaders effectively trying to get rid of nation-state | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
democracy. What you saw in 2016 was nation-state democracy making a | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
comeback. Is Russia a democracy? Not properly, no. Is Russia is a | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
democracy? Not a proper democracy as we understand, it no. Democracy is | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
under fire in Russia. Since Putin came to power more than 20 | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
opposition figures and journalists have been killed. If you care about | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
democracy this is an important place, the Kremlin is 100 yards away | 0:19:52 | 0:20:06 | |
and it was here almost two years ago that Boris Nantsov was shot dead. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
People ask questions about Vladimir Putin's commitment to democracy. But | 0:20:12 | 0:20:19 | |
please be careful and you could not teach us democracy because you | 0:20:20 | 0:20:27 | |
trying to impose to every people, every state American system of | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
values without asking, it is absolutely racist. You are racist. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
In Russia the pro-Kremlin camp doesn't like to be challenged. If | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
you're critical of Vladimir Putin you may end up dead. If you, for | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
example, if you are engaged in WikiLeaks, you can be murdered. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Julian Assange is dead, is he? Not, but - So hold on a second, please | 0:20:50 | 0:20:57 | |
tell me about Boris Nemtsov, he was murdered 100 yards... By Putin? He | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
was critical of Putin. Can you tell me, can you list the number of | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
American journalists who have died under Obama. It's completely stupid | 0:21:06 | 0:21:14 | |
kind of conversation. OK. Please, very nice to meet you, but I don't | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
like to continue. So do you think Mr Trump will make the world a safer | 0:21:20 | 0:21:27 | |
place? After he walked out of our interview Mr Dugin posted a blog in | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
which he accused me of making fake news. He called me a repulsive | 0:21:32 | 0:21:43 | |
bustard, utter cretin and globalist cien. Such is the new world order. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
In America you can hear the echo of Russian politics. You are fake news. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
I'd like to punch him in the face. Get him out. I don't know if it | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
would have gone well... I think democracy is in trouble. I think the | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
example Trump set in the way he conducted and ran his campaign, his | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
use of open lies, fake news, the hint of violence, I think all of | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
this was incredibly damaging to democracy. They'd be carried out on | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
a stretcher folks. What's interesting about Trump is, one of | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
the great comments of the whole US campaign was that you should take | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Trump seriously but not literally. That comes right through that | 0:22:24 | 0:22:24 | |
campaign. Trump may have his reasons for | 0:22:25 | 0:22:38 | |
playing nice with Putin. Here in Ukraine, you can see why Putin might | 0:22:39 | 0:22:49 | |
want to get along with Trump. After Russia annexed Crimea, part of | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
Ukraine, in 2014, the West imposed sanctions on Russia, which cost the | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
country $160 billion and hurt Putin too. But that didn't stop Putin | 0:22:59 | 0:23:06 | |
sending his ghost army into the east, soldiers disguised as | 0:23:07 | 0:23:13 | |
volunteers. Today, the war continues. How far is the frontline | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
from here? TRANSLATION: The enemy's on two | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
sides from us. They're close. Sometimes very close. Who's driving | 0:23:23 | 0:23:30 | |
this war? TRANSLATION: It's Russia controlling | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
them and they're Russia's pawns. Keep low, move fast. And we're | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
moving because there's a bit of a firefight behind us. Incoming, you | 0:23:43 | 0:23:59 | |
can hear the crack. The young have deserted the village of Vodinoe, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
only the old remain. I asked this man what it's like living on the | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
frontline. TRANSLATION: My children will say | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Russian fascists killed their Ukrainian father. Sometimes it's so | 0:24:10 | 0:24:17 | |
frightening. Two weeks ago, after artillery fire, my wife suffered a | 0:24:18 | 0:24:18 | |
stroke. Two years on, and nearly 10,000 | 0:24:19 | 0:24:35 | |
dead. There's no sign to the end of fighting here in Eastern Ukraine. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
The fear is, with Donald Trump in the Whitehouse, the prospects for | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
peace are even further away than ever. Does the Donald give a damn? I | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
don't like what's happening with Ukraine. That's really a problem | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
that affects Europe a lot more than us. They should be leading some of | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
this charge. You wouldn't allow Ukraine either? I would not care | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
that much to be honest with you, whether it goes in or doesn't go in. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
I wouldn't care. Russia denies they're the aggressor in Ukraine. In | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
2014, I caught up with President Putin in Siberia and challenged him. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Do you regret the killings in the Ukraine? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
TRANSLATION: The main problem is that the authorities in Kiev do not | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
want a political dialogue with the east of their country. In Moscow | 0:25:28 | 0:25:34 | |
today the line remains - Russia has done nothing wrong. There is no | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Russian aggression. No agenda for a greater Russia? No agenda for | 0:25:39 | 0:25:46 | |
greater Russia. We want to have strong and self-sufficient country. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
But there are no plans for any expansion of Russia. Will America | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
change tack on Ukraine? This week Trump has said in return for a | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
nuclear weapons deal he might lift sanctions. Trump has to be mindful | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
of Russia's very clear interests in Ukraine and how their politics | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
ultimately play out. I do think that there are some thorny issues | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
regarding Crimea, regarding Ukraine that Trump is going to have to work | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
through with Putin. They are within the sphere of influence of his | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
country. They're on his borders. He has every right to have concerns | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
about them and what we're doing in these regards. But if Donald Trump | 0:26:29 | 0:26:36 | |
turns a blind eye to Russian War mongering and lifts sanctions, the | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Kremlin might see it as a green light to exert its power further | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
West. I haven't been sleeping well since the invasion of Crimea. I have | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
since then begun to worry about what Russia's aims are in Europe. And | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
about the possibility of a nuclear clash or conventional clash of an | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
incredibly dangerous kind in the Baltic states in Central Europe and | 0:27:00 | 0:27:07 | |
in Ukraine. Having Trump in the White House doesn't make me feel | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
better. Even if the dossier is a pack of lies, it could change | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
things. Trump is sounding tougher on Russia's actions in Syria. It can't | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
let it look like Putin has a hold over him. Do you honestly believe | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
that Hillary would be tougher on Putin than me? Does anybody in this | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
room really believe that? If Putin is blackmailing Trump that's no | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
basis for a stable relationship. If he's not, you still can't rule out a | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
clash. They both seem like rather Brittle personalities when it comes | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
to being challenged. We've seen that in Trump and we've certainly seen it | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
in Putin. So I think I would not want to see these two get into some | 0:27:48 | 0:27:57 | |
kind of a macho shootout. Whatever the truth, Trump's locked in a | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
strange embrace with Vladimir Putin. An ally who could so easily become | 0:28:03 | 0:28:10 | |
an adversary. If the bromance ends and President Donald Trump falls out | 0:28:11 | 0:28:17 | |
with President Putin then to put it mildly, that's not good. We face a | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
prospect of a brand new Cold War, colder than ever before. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:50 | |
That I will faithfully execute the Office... | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
And will to the best of my ability... | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
The Constitution of the United States... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 |