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statement updating the steel industry, and are very heavily

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subscribed main debate today. So the time limits will need to be strict

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late enforced. Mr Ian Blackford. -- strictly. To ask the Secretary of

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State for the home Department if she will make a statement on the

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impending deportation of the family from Dingwall?

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Ministers do not usually comment on individual immigration cases however

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I am happy to waive this convention today, to properly address the

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question raised by the honourable gentleman. N Brain came to the UK in

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2011 on a Visa which expired last year in May, with her husband and

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son listed as dependents. On the 25th of May, Katherine Grainger

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applied for another Visa, -- Catherine Brain. In June this was

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granted to December of last year. In December than application was made

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for leave to remain under Article eight of the European can not human

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rights, which was refused with an out of country right to appeal. This

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time has been open to them to make a skilled worker application under the

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points -based system. On the 12th of April a exceptionally extended the

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grace period after the leave expired, during which a valid

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application could be made to the 11th of May. I subsequently extended

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the grace period further, to the end of this month, upon hearing he had

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submitted a job application with an appropriate employer. We have not

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yet received an application from the Brain family for leave to remain

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under the points -based system, but we will consider any application

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they make. I am meeting the honourable member this afternoon

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again to further discuss this matter, but he can be assured that

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the family does not face an imminent risk of immediate deportation. It is

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important we recognise the excellent offer the UK have. There is no limit

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on the number of international graduates remaining in the UK today

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work, to provided they can secure a graduate level job. I look forward

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to meeting him again later today to discuss this matter. I am grateful.

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I must say that the question we took was to the Home Secretary, and it

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was the Home Secretary who was briefing the Chancellor of the

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Exchequer when he responded to my right honourable friend the Member

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for Moray a prime ministers questions. When the family came,

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they came under the fresh talent initiative that was put in place by

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the previously bid administration in Edinburgh, with the support of the

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Home Office. That is the commitment this government made to those coming

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to Scotland in 2011, and what has happened is that the government has

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taken retrospective action to deny the rights of these family -- this

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family would have been granted under that legislation. There is a breach

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of trust and faith as far as this government is concerned. I want to

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help the Minister insofar as the number of people who came under the

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fresh talent initiative has dwindled to virtually nothing, what we are

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asking is for the government to recognise the commitment that this

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family have made to the Scottish Highlands, specifically when I look

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to Lachlan, a seven-year-old boy, Gaelic education in the Highlands,

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writing and reading in the Gaelic language. He does not write and read

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in English. He speaks good English, but it is different to be educated

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in a different language. The thought of reporting that young boy to

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Australia where he will be two years behind his peer group, is shameful,

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and that is where the human rights aspect of this comes in. Catherine

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has now been offered a job in a start-up business, and new

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distillery in Dingwall, which will offer jobs and prosperity not just

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to her, but to others. We need to recognise that they should be given

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that rate to stated a. Give them the time to qualify for the tier two

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Visa, show some compassion. Do the right thing today. The honourable

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gentleman will know that I have met him on previous occasions to discuss

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this case. And he says that I should show compassion and humanity. He

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will know that I have already exercised discretion, not once but

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twice, in relation to this case, on the basis of representations he has

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made on the half of the family. I will listen very carefully to what

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he said, and I look forward to meeting him later to hear more of

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the details that he has relayed to the House this morning. But I would

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wish to correct and is likely on some of the facts that he has

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presented. He said the family came here under the fresh talent scheme,

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but that closed in 2008 and was replaced by the Post study work

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scheme, which, yes, was closed by this government, and we announced

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that on the 21st of March 2011. The Brain family arrived on the 14th of

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June 2011. There are very clear issues that we do consider about

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Post study work opportunities, removing from the tier for study

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route into Tier two, and I am pleased to note that around six

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thousand people who did that -- 6000 people who did that, the information

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is available. It is important that the Scottish Government continues to

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play its part on creating an enterprising economy to create those

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jobs and opportunities for his constituents, so that provides that

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route for people who do study at our universities to have that graduate

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employment, because ultimately the previous arrangements existed and

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did not work. They allowed abuse to take place and saw people moving

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into low skilled employment not reflecting the education they had

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obtained. But I do wish to reflect further on the comments he has made

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today, and I look forward to meeting him later. There is no one more

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passionate about having a robust immigration policy than me. But I

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wondered whether or not the Minister would agree that this may be a case

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where the government is being overly harsh and people from outside of the

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European Union as a direct consequence of having free movement

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of people from within the European Union. I said to my honourable

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friend that in terms of dealing with issues of migration, it is important

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that we take steps outside of Europe, where the majority of net

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migration comes from, as well as inside Europe, so that is the

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approach we look at. I will certainly reflect on the further

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representations that are made to be. I would like to express my heartfelt

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sympathy to the Brain family who came here in good faith and have

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been let down by the government. There case is yet another that

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highlights the chaos of the immigration system under this

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government. The Brains situation will be familiar to many members in

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this House who have faced constituents facing deportation due

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to changes to immigration rules. This is a family who came to the UK

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on a government scheme specifically designed to attract people to

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relocate here. They entered illegally, they have integrated into

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their community and have fully embraced its way of life. That they

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should now be faced with a petition due to government changes shows the

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problem caused by the constant chopping and changing of the

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immigration rules by the Home Office. These changes are

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retrospectively made in a desperate attempt to meet targets on net

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migration that the government has consistently missed and shows no

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signs of meeting at any time soon. It just adds insult to injury. The

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Highlands of Scotland have faced a problem of the precision

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percentages. -- deportation. Is the right honourable member for Moray

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said yesterday, it is not a case of immigration but of emigration. The

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immigration system must face the needs of our communities, not

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focusing just on an arbitrary number from Whitehall. It is important

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rules are enforced, but this is also an issue of compassion. Should we be

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uprooting a young family who came to the UK legally and in good faith

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from lights they have built here? Should we be deporting children

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whose whole lives have been here to a country they barely know? Why do

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the brain family -- to family not qualify under the original terms? I

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understand he has extended the application process, but given that

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these terms were changed by the government, what support has been

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provided to assist the family? Why is the Home Office making this an

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issue of immigration rather than emigration? The help provided has

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been the discretion that has already been applied in relation to this

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case, not once, but twice in allowing extra time for the family

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to make their stay regular. So it is incorrect to suggest we have taken a

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blinkered approach or to have simply applied a very strict approach that

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she has criticised. In relation to the Post study work, it is important

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that the House understands that the reason we made these changes was not

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to simply target some simple number, it was rather to deal with abuse in

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the system, that this government inherited from the last Labour

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government. On the fact we had students arriving in this country

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that could not speak English, using this as a mechanism not to study but

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to work. But we have shown that we are prepared to listen in respect of

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this case. We have already taken representations from the honourable

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member whose constituency represents in continuing to reflect on this,

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and as I have indicated, that is what we will do, but I would say

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that we will make the point that the family have known for at least five

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years of what the requirements would be, the need to get a graduate-level

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job, and we do wish them success in securing that, and I look forward to

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hearing further representations regarding this. This case highlights

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the fact that Scotland's migration needs are different from the south

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of England's. I would like to assure the Minister that the Scottish party

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government in Edinburgh has created an enterprising economy. We need the

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government to do its bit in bringing in a policy that will enable

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Scotland to attract and keep the talent we need, particularly in

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areas like the Highlands. When will this government recognise that

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Scotland's migration needs are different, and in particular will he

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tell me when his government are going to reintroduce the Post study

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work Visa, bearing in mind that all parties in the Scottish Parliament

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support that, including Ruth Davidson's party.

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Our immigration policy is formed on the basis of the whole of the UK and

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the needs of the UK, in attracting skilled and talented people to come

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to the United Kingdom to contribute to our continued economic growth

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which is what I have underlined to other honourable members in the

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answers I have given. We do recognise within, for example, the

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shortage of skills, the fact there is a separate shortage occupation

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list on prioritising the visas that are given to people coming to work

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within the United Kingdom, reflecting that is the case. The

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reason that we did take the step we did an relation to post study work

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was because of the abuse we saw and also, some have referred to the

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fresh talent scheme and the information from the Scottish

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Government social research in 2008 indicated only 44% of that actually

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remained in Scotland at the end of their two years leave under the

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scheme and many people have come to London and the South East rather

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than staying in Scotland. We have heard a great deal about the fresh

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talent scheme so does he agree with me that the fresh talent scheme that

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was run under the last Labour Government was flawed and did not

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lead to skilled migrants settling in Scotland? That has nothing to do

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with Government policy now, the particular case of which we are

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treating. We have to have things dealt with in an orderly way. The

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brain family enjoy support throughout the Highlands and I have

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had many similar cases over my years as a member of Parliament. The

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Minister says we have to have a system that works for the whole of

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the United Kingdom and he is absolutely right but the truth of

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the matter is that the current system does not work for communities

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like those in the Highlands and it doesn't work for communities in the

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rural north-west of England, Cornwall or mid Wales. Will he look

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again at the way the rules operate and understand the immigration needs

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of Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow are very different to those of the

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Highlands and islands which again are different to those in other

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regions of England and Wales. I think the point he makes is one I

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know that a number of honourable numbers have made this morning and I

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have indicated there is recognition within the immigration rules that I

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think do recognise that. Some have said, should there be separate

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salary threshold is the different parts of the United Kingdom? I would

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say, be careful what you wish for because on the median level

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salaries, that might lead to an increase in the salary threshold for

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Scotland, contrasting to where the national salary limits sit at the

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present time. I have been very clear on the fact we have listened

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carefully in relation to the specific case and certainly, I will

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continue to do so. The Home Affairs Select Committee, the Business

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Select Committee and other members of this House have warned the

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Government the post study work walls just don't work. They result in the

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kind of mess we have this morning. He talks about abuse but the only

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evidence that has been given by a previous immigration in Minister,

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was one found at the checkout in Tesco who was working instead of

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being a student. If there is abuse, deal with it but don't let it affect

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genuine people who want to come to this country. The Minister says he

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has exercised his discretion twice. I am glad he has discovered

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discretion which is something he has not used in the past on a large

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number of cases, especially mine! I say to him, he should exercise it

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once more and allow this family to stay. He highlights the issue of

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abuse we saw under the previous student arrangements and I would

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point to the fact that now, 920 responses under the previous student

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arrangements have had their sponsorship withdrawn as part of the

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reforms that I think have ensured that we do have a quality that we

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want. We do want to attract skilled and talented people to come and

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study at our universities and I would highlight the fact that the

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Russell group universities have seen a 7% increase in the number of

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international students coming to study at their institutions. I think

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I have underlined this morning that I have considered this case

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carefully and discretion I have exercised, and I will continue to

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listen to the representations made and I will always consider them,

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made by all honourable members across this House. It is important

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discretion is exercised exceptionally otherwise we undermine

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the rules themselves. We silly I have had a substantial increase in

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the number of people telling me immigration lawyers would take their

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case. It appears to be a result of change in procedure meaning little

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chance of success. Why won't the Government take the opportunity

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afforded by the family to reassess its immigration rules and procedures

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and introduced that moment of compassion as well as helping those

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who benefit our economy to stay in the UK. We always keep our

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immigration rules under review and as I have again indicated this

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morning, we are always prepared to look at cases that may be brought to

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us and examine them to make sure they are assessed properly. It is

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important we have clarity within those rules because if you seek to

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exercise discretion all the time, then it starts to undermine the very

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rules you are seeking to uphold. A week before the Scottish referendum,

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the PM said if Scotland wanted to stay in the UK,... All possible.

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The Scottish Parliament wants to keep just one family in a Highlands

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and it seems nothing at all is possible.

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Can I ask you one question, have you identified a school in Australia

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where the little boy can continue his education? We continue to

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discuss with the Scottish Government on matters relating to the

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possibility of examining these issues on reform to international

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higher education students. I think the UK does have an excellent record

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in post study offer available to graduates students. I will continue

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to listen to the representations made connection to this case.

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Instead of spending time and resources on the deportation of this

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family, should the Home Office not get its actions right and ensure

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dangerous criminals are deported after their first offence rather

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than waiting for them to offend again? This Government does take the

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removal of foreign national offenders and those who oppose a

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threat to this country very seriously. The honourable gentleman

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will see from our figures released today that the numbers are at about

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a five year high. We continue to work across governments to achieve

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more and I will reflect on the specific case he has referred to. I

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congratulate my honourable friend on his urgent question and indeed the

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workers for Gordon and Murray and our colleagues in the Scottish

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Parliament for the attention they are giving to this case. The

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Minister has made clear this is a direct result of changes in those,

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while people are in the country, that this family find themselves in

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this position. It is a continuing lack of attention and understanding

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that this Government has immigration. It is time for this

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ministers to stand up and do the right thing and show that project

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fear will not be allowed to win the day. This Government does recognise

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the contribution that skilled and talented people from outside of this

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country can make to our economy and I have already been very explicit in

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the way in which our immigration rules are designed to achieve that.

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I do say that we did announce the closure of the post study work

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groups in 2011, before the family arrived but I will continue to

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reflect on further representations made and consider those carefully

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and indeed any further application the family may wish to make. Isn't

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this case confirming UK immigration policy doesn't work for Scotland?

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Scotland needs families like this, to come and live and work in

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Scotland. Different population demographic challenges and we do not

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share this Conservative Government's obsession with immigration figures.

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Can he start a conversation with a about an immigration policy

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throughout the UK so we can... Inaudible ... We have an immigration

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policy that we continue to reform to make sure it acts in the best

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interest of this country. I don't accept the characterisation that he

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gives. We will continue to remain open to discussions with the

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Scottish comment about a range of issues but we are clear on

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attracting skilled and talented people and there are ways in which

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people can move from education into work and it is important to have

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that separation to avoid the abuse we saw in the past.

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No Conservative supporters of his on the benches opposite are supporting

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in anyway the decision which has been made by the Home Office. Would

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it not be appropriate to understand the strength of feeling which has

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been expressed on this side throughout the exchanges? It is

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always important to recognise when the House of Commons feels very

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angry and upset over the decision and I hope the Minister will bear

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that in mind. The only decision that is outstanding from the Home Office

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at this stage is the extension of time that we have given to the

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family on two occasions to make a further application. To put that

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application in on the basis of employment within Scotland or the

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rest of the UK. I will of course continue to reflect on

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representations made but that is precisely what I will be doing with

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the meeting later today. This Government has gone back on its

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word. We hear a lot from this Government about their thoughts on

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one nation so can I ask the Minister, which nation does he think

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is benefiting from this obtuse and retrospective immigration

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arrangement? I reminded the honourable lady as to when the

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decision was announced to close the post study work route which was in

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March 2011 and when the family arrived. They have had many years to

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know what the situation is and I wish them obviously success and I

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will continue to reflect on representations.

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The headshaking from the front bench, two people in the front

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bench... Demonstrates the Government's attitude. In case of

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immigration policy for the UK as a whole, is it not time to devise a

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threshold, 35,000, that needs to be reviewed as well. No, that is a roar

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that has been clearly set to show progression and therefore benefit to

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the UK economy, whether in Scotland or elsewhere. We have provided

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certain exemptions for that in relation to certain sectors that I

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think it is a brawl that benefits the UK. -- is together rule that

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benefits the UK. This family are desperate to contribute to the

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Highlands. The Highlands are desperate to keep them. What gives

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any one the moral right to make a decision on the Highlands that

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nobody in the Highlands wants? The family ultimately need to find

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employment at the appropriate level and I think that is why I have made

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the points I have about the Scottish Government and the work it does to

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see there is a strong economy that is creating jobs and that creates an

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environment for people to stay and work in Scotland and that is the

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important part of this. As an MP for a rural constituency, experiencing

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depopulation, I am dismayed at this Government is preparing to throw out

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Scotland, a family that has moved into the Highlands and are

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contributing positively to their community. Why is this Government

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determined to make a depopulation problem worse by sticking to this

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unfair and unjust action. The rules are clearly out of date and

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outmoded. The immediate prospect of the family being removed is not

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there. We are open to any further application they wish to make and I

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stress this point on the ability of the Scottish Government to create

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jobs for people to stay. Point of order. As you know we had

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the first ever topical questions session in the women are qualities

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oral questions this morning. I want to say thanks to the Leader of the

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House and the Minister for women and equality is for the support. We had

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a few teething problems with the new arrangements which meant I wasn't

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