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raise this with the Minister then. The secretary of state for exiting

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the European Union, secretary David Davis. With permission I wish to

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make a statement on the Government plans to exit the European Union.

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Today we are publishing a government white paper on the exit and a new

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partnership with the European Union. The Government has made clear it

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will honour the choice made by the people of the United Kingdom. On the

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23rd of June 2016, the United Kingdom will leave the European

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Union. Note that is wrong. By April of, on the 23rd of June 2016 the

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people voted for the leave of the European Union. This house... We

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have two years of this to go don't worry.

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LAUGHING This house is currently considering

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a straightforward bill which would give the Prime Minister at the

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authority to trigger article 50 of the European Union to begin the

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negotiations of our exit. It is not a bill about whether or not we leave

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the EU or if we do so but about implementing a decision taken of the

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UK. We always have said we would eat out these aims and seek to build a

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national consensus were possible. This paper sets those aims and the

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thinking behind it. It confirms the Prime Minister's vision of a truly

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global UK and Anna Bush 's future relationship with the European

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Union. This is based on the 12 principles which will guide the

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governments. Taking control of our own laws and statue book.

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Maintaining the Common travel area. And the rights of UK nationals

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living in the European Union. Protecting and enhancing existing

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workers' rights and ensuring free trade with European markets was

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forging a new strategic partnership with the European Union including a

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bold and ambitious agreement and a beneficial customs agreement.

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Forging free trade agreements with others across the world. Ensuring

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the United Kingdom is the best place and cooperating against crime and

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terrorism and finally delivering a smooth and orderly exit from the

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European Union. These amount to one goal, a new positive and

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constructive partnership with Britain and the European Union that

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works in our mutual interest. All of them are qubits lets me highlight

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some specific issues its reiterate our firm view that it is in the UK

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interest for the European Union to succeed politically and

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economically. That cannot be said to firmly. We want the EU to succeed

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politically and economically. We want to work to an outcome for our

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mutual benefit, we recognise the European union has principles for

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freedom so United Kingdom will leave the single market, instead we seek a

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new strategic partnership including a bold and ambitious free trade

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agreement and a mutually and vicious trade agreements that insurers

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free-trade and services as much as possible. That'll be to our mutual

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benefit. As the white paper notes, we export billions of goods to the

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EU while import billions from the EU every year. It also sets out how

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after we leave the UK will look to increase its trade with the

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fastest-growing export markets in the world. It cannot sign a new

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trade deals were being a Member, we are preparing the ground freight

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which means updating membership of the WTO. Modern free-trade

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agreements are to stop disputes on both sides of the white paper

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examines the precedence of this area and makes clear we will negotiate an

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arrangement that respects UK sovereignty, in terms of clarity and

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certainty will recognise the need to provide it wherever we can during

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the period when and is inevitable. This legislation will mean the

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repeal of the communities act or converting the existing EU law into

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domestic law. That means the position we start from, a Common red

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glittery framework is unprecedented. The negotiation will not be bringing

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two divergent systems together, it is about finding the best way of the

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comments to the Mac for the current system to trade with and operate in

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each other's markets to continue and we leave the European Union. The

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white paper also sets up that we will take control of our own laws,

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to ensure that we can control the number of people coming to the

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United Kingdom from the European Union. In a jurisdiction of the

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European Court of Justice, the UK will come to an end. ... I have

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stood at this dispatch box before and said there will be a number of

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votes on policy to that earned the white paper makes clear that we will

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bring forward separate legislation in areas such as customs and

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immigration. Delivering smooth and mutually beneficial exits and

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avoiding a disruptive cliff edge which will be the key. A

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never-ending transitional status is emphatically not what we seek. But a

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phase process of process of implementation of new process of

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immigration controls, custom systems, the way we operate and

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incorporate on civil justice matters and legal frameworks of business

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will be necessary for both sides. As the white paper says, this time may

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vary. One of the most important actors in Global Affairs, we will

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continue to work with the European Union to preserve the security,

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fight crime and terrorism and uphold justice. We must work more closely,

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not less in these areas. We will continue to seek to build a national

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consensus so we are talking another time to business, civil society,

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public services, representatives. We have engaged the devolved

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administrations and whilst part of the UK can have a veto, we are

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determined to live an outcome which delivers for the whole of the

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country. We continue to analyse the outcome of Brexit to shape our

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negotiating position and to conclude, the referendum result was

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not a vote to turn our back on Europe but was a vote of confidence

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in the UK's ability to succeed in the world that our best days are

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still to come, whatever the outcome of the negotiation we seek a more

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outward looking and ferry UK that works for everyone. The white paper

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is available on the Government website.

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Mr Speaker, Norman Underwood thank the secretary of state that the

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statements is nothing. A week ago the Prime Minister said there would

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be a white paper, yesterday she said there would be a white paper

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tomorrow and the white paper has not been delivered until four minutes

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ago so we can meaningfully ask questions. For months we have been

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calling for a plan. That was refused on the basis they would not be a

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running commentary. Then the government agreed a plan but

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delivered a speech. Then they were forced to concede under pressure

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there would be a white paper. No white paper produced too late in the

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day for us to ask meaningful questions here. That is completely

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unacceptable. And the first fight about Brexit is great player, it is

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a fight about giving this house a meaningful role in holding the

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government to account. The government has been forced by the

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supreme court to involve parliament at all, it has been forced to

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produce a white paper and to concede a final vote. Before Christmas the

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Secretary of State refused to confirm there would be a vote in

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this house at the end of this exercise. The decision to leave was

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taken on June 23 but what matters now is the terms agreed under

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article 50 and the nature and extent of our new relationship with the EU.

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The Prime Minister adopted a risky approach, with gaps and

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inconsistencies and an unacceptable fallback position. We need time to

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debate this white paper properly and we need a vote on its content. And

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on the question of vote, flicking through the white paper IC at

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paragraph 1.12 is all that is said is that the final deal that is

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agreed will be put to a vote in both houses. We have amendments down next

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week seeking a meaningful vote. A vote in this house before a vote is

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taken in the European Parliament otherwise all honourable members

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will have to watch on their screens as the European Parliament debates

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are deal before we get to express any views on it. That is completely

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unacceptable and is demeaning of this house. Finally Mr Speaker I

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note there is nothing that progress is the position of EU nationals in

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this country. We have been calling for unilateral action to be taken

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before article 50 is triggered and yet the white paper disappoints on

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that front. Let me start with the purpose of the white paper, that is

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to inform all the debates, not just today, in the coming two years. The

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shadow Brexit spokesman is exactly right, what matters above all else,

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not the Labour Party or whatever, what matters are the terms we get

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for this negotiation. That is about the future of Britain, that is what

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this has should care about, first and foremost. Secondly he talks

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about the meaningful vote, I have not yet understood that. I have

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voted thousands of times in this house and I have never yet voted on

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something I considered not meaningful. Every vote in this house

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is meaningful. And there will be a meaningful vote at the end, he makes

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much of the time it took. I was saying for a long time to the select

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committee that it was inconceivable, the words are used, that we would

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not have a meaningful vote at the end of this process. His last point

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on the care of EU nationals, I also make you have got a track record of

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defending the interests of people who are under pressure and indeed

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the last thing pretty much the leader of his party did was go with

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me to Washington to get lost grip out of Guantanamo Bay. I am not

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going to throw people out of Britain and for him to suggest that is

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outrageous. But let me say this, the European Union nationals I want to

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see you have all the rights they currently have. But I also would sue

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British citizens have their rights. And we owe a moral responsibility

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and moral dared to EU nationals but also a moral and legal threats to

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citizens of Britain abroad and we will protest vote. -- I will see. Mr

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Speaker, I deeply welcome my right on and friend's statement and also

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the white paper which is most emphatically in our national

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interest. Tomorrow the heads of government of the 27 other member

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state will convene in Malta and they propose to make a declaration about

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their vision for the future of Europe. President task's letter of

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January 31 is not bode well. Will my right honourable friend encourage

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the 27 -- President Tusk. By promoting ever closer and more

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centralised political union they are creating the very circumstances

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which they claim they want to avoid and they are depriving themselves of

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the trust of the other citizens who they claim to represent? The

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effectively going in the wrong direction. Boyce my right honourable

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friend is labelled this issue for 20 years at least, and he has always

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said and honourable, straightforward and insightful view of the EU. On

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what we have said is that we are going to be full members until the

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moment we leave that means responsible members until the moment

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we leave. That means we will exercise our influence on what we

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think is the best interest of the EU until the moment we leave. Because

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we want to see a European Union strong, stable and effective. In

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this time of difficult international relations we need them as an anchor

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and that is what we will pursue. I thank the Minister for his

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statement. He is not a man of few words but I a man of few meaningful

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words. This is just another panicked U-turn. It is not much of an

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achievement to be the second most chaotic party in this chamber when

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it comes to matters of Europe. They have only had seven months to pull

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it together and yet we only read it one minute before the minister got

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on his feet. The secretary of state is more experience than me, but it

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is very striking we get a white paper after the second reading and

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two sitting days before the committee stage. We got this before

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he got on his feet. The latter respect to Parliament we need to

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question him on it but I find it an astonishing disrespect to Parliament

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and one that the secretary of state would not put up with were he not on

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the front page. But what I find surprising is what are they afraid

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of? They do not want to give us the opportunity for scrutiny, they do

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not have the courage of their convictions. Maybe Mr Speaker the

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Secretary of State will tell us that since Scotland voted to remain, is

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the red, white and blue Brexit, civil servants having to pull

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together their approach and the secretary of state has said that

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legislators will face the Mexican changes to the statement. Does that

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mean that a legislative consent motion will now be required but not

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-- significant changes. This is a mess and it is going to have an

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impact on each and every one of us and people deserve better. Let me

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start by saying that we have been in the EU for 40 years, this is that

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reversing, not reversing but amending and dealing with 40 years

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of accumulated policy and law. As for the second reading, he is

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talking about the second reading of a bill to trigger the process, to do

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no more than put into effect the British people's decision of June

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last year. So I cannot see how he thinks that the white paper being

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after the second reading is problematic at all. There will be

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any number, any number of occurrences in this house when the

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50 odd SNP members will have a chance to hold the government to

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account, to make their views known on policy, to put the interests of

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Scotland forward, whether it is with the great repeal Bill or other

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legislation that follows from that. I do not think he can complain about

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matters of democracy in this respect. Whatever his extensive

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interest in the statement which I'm keen to come, that, to do so will

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require relative from back and front benches alike, especially in light

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of the subsequent business, which is very well subscribed and to which I

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have to have regard. If we could have short questions and answers

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that would help. Can I ask first of all commend the paper to my right

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honourable friend. The complaints about it not being detailed enough

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on about it only coming at the last moment are of course nonsense. The

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Prime Minister set out most of the elements of this in her 12 point

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speech so those who missed that need to go back and see that reflected in

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this comment. But can I ask my right honourable friend the key concern in

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areas like academia and the high added value low-volume areas are

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that they get a much earlier statement about how flexible the

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kind of permit system would be and I wonder if my right honourable friend

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would take it a little further and say that these errors themselves

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will see next to no change. It is below value and high-volume areas

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that we need to control? If you were not here at the start you should not

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be standing, that is an established part of proceedings. My right

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honourable friend is another member of this house who has spent a long

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time on this issue. The issue of migration is my job as it were to

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bring the decision back to this house. It is not my job to make the

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decisions thereafter but what is clear to me is that the policies of

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controlling migration after our exit would be ones designed to further

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our national interest. Britain is a science superpower, Britain is a

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leading scientific centre in Europe and as a result we will want to

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encourage petition for talent. In finance, and in engineering and

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medicine, all the areas where there are skills that are at a premium we

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will want to encourage the attraction of those people. So we do

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not expect a policy to have any deleterious effect on industry at

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all. The Secretary of State said we would have meaningful votes on a

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whole range of things. How can it be that paragraph 8.43 commits us to

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leaving the customs union, which will have a devastating effect on

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manufacturing without any analysis or impact assessment? There has been

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considerable analysis of this. They we just finished the point. The

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point that is made in the policy paper is that we want to have the

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customs grimmer. That will impinge directly as a result of the free

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trade area and if we are successful in the free trade agreement and get

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low or near zero tariffs, we should succeed in getting the customs

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agreement which reflect that and makes it very straightforward to

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continue trading. Can I say that I think we would be wise to get to the

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end of the negotiations before we draw conclusions on what we have

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come to. That would be the meaningful way, those who use the

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word meaningful for times and speech are being rather meaningless. The

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key point is that what we're after is what in these circumstances the

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EU members will be after, which are arranged with that before then,

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before us and before world. Here's exactly right and that is the aim of

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our policy. He is right also that and be entered the house will be

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able to hold the government to account and make the meaningful

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decision about the policy. That will not be the only element, there will

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be many points along the way that will debate everything from customs

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grimaced through to immigration and other policies which arise out of

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this process. And the house will be very, very much in control. My

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honourable friend for Cockburn and St Pancras in the 60 seconds he had

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to look through the white paper was spot on to zone in on the

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obfuscation on page 11 about the lack of a meaningful vote for

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Parliament at the end of the process. There is no point in having

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a vote after he's already signed off with the EU, treating Parliament as

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some sort of afterthought. So can he rule out now the government showing

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such contempt for Parliament? This is now my sixth statement to this

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house in less than six months. Let me finish. The house will have the

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opportunity to vote on any number of pieces of legislation before we get

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there and it'll have the vote at the end to decide whether or not it's

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acceptable. On page 49 of the white paper, the

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Government says we have an open mind on how we implement the new

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arrangements with the European Union. For the avoidance of doubt,

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will the Secretary of State confirm... He will see we exclude

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ourselves... Can I welcome the principles in the white paper in

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particularly protecting and enhancing workers' rights, would he

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confirmed during the negotiations that there is nothing to negotiate

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with other EU countries on workers' rights and protection because we

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will be protecting them because they are already in our law and we must

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stop the people telling us that this will be threatened. She is

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absolutely right. The approach of the Government is to maintain every

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single piece of protection that is, which is incidentally much better

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than most European countries. And also to enhance that. Can I urge the

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Secretary to give priority to the matters in chapter six of the white

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paper in securing the rights of EU nationals, I have in mind one of my

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constituents who was in EU national and for many years she has been

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receiving a treatment for cancer and she wants to know if she will

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continue to have access to the NHS. It is not just residents write or

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talk about but access to health care. Thank you Mr Speaker, the end

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is not yet and the best is yet to be, which is what any presbyteries

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on the Ulster bench will welcome. Can I say I welcome the white paper

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that he has produced today and particularly the three chapters

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refer to the union, strengthening the relationship with the Republic

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of Ireland and the other chapter on combating terrorism. Is he familiar

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with the commentary of Ray Bassett, the former Irish ambassador and

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Irish diplomat who made it clear that Ireland's position should be on

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forging a new relationship with the United Kingdom because the other 26

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parts of the European Union don't listen to Ireland. I'm not familiar

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with the commentary he talks about but I welcome his views. It has been

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one of the most important part of the preparation which has been

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striking the relationship with Ireland which ensures we underpin

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the peace process, maintain stability, keep an open border and

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so on and I think it is incumbent on us because the Irish government in

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the most difficult position and that is what we are doing. The white

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paper paragraph eight point 43 makes it clear that we want to leave the

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customs union so we can negotiate free-trade agreements around the

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world, the actual position is if we leave the customs union then we will

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be bound by an external tariff unless we negotiate otherwise, is

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that the correct position? And WTO rules, this is the most favoured

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negotiation but you are allowed to make free-trade agreements at

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whatever level you seek. One of the things we seek to do is to ensure as

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many of the existing free-trade agreements carry straight over so

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that will also be lower. Given the old age dependency ratio and it's

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important for the public finances and the absence of any concrete

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information of paragraph 5.9 of this white paper, can the Secretary of

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State inform us what he anticipates the level of net migration to be

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across future years? It'll be a sustainable level, that is the

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policy but the point to understand here is that those decisions you

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make in a year by year basis because what is no part of the policy to

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make the British economy suffer, or any of the above, it is perfectly

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proper that the Government should control any migration property and

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not leave open ended. The solution to the problem is she cites is not

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just managing the problem. When the Government says its notice on the

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European Union under Article 50, will the Government take that

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opportunity to frame the negotiation by making it clear that we expect to

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agree the framework of our future relationship as a specifies an

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article 50 otherwise we are negotiating in the dark about the

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divorce arrangements and indeed I don't think the European Union will

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be have a sincere cooperation. What my right honourable friend conferred

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tee refers to is the need to negotiate in parallel the ongoing

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departure relationship and article 50 refers to having regarding the

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ongoing relationships you cannot include negotiation departure before

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concluding the ongoing arrangements. I've made this point already, I

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think the Prime Minister has made the point already to a number of her

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opposite numbers around the European Union, this'll be the first issue

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that we need to resolve at the beginning of negotiations. Will

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Parliaments get a vote on the Government's intended final deal

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before they deal is struck with the European Union? I suspect the final

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vote here... Their ratification process is much lower than ours. I'm

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extremely pleased that the white paper is being published and I would

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like to say thanks to him and his team as well for listening to

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honourable friends on the side of the House in our calls for a white

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paper, but would heal so join in sending a message to my constituents

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at their views. Willie also clarify if they will report for me back to

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the House? I'm not sure what well overall friend means by former

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reporter this is my sixth statement to the House, I have said at every

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opportunity what is going on, there will be substantial debates policy,

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there will undoubtedly be other Brexit debates, we have more plans

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already there is no question that the House will not be fully

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informed, this an illusion we have given them a white paper and as we

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said we have given them the answer on customs union and an answer on

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single markets. I don't know how much more open and Booth without

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being dissected. This government seems to be in a constant state of

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delayed reaction, we finally do have a paper on strengthening trade with

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the world that reads the retreat, a conspicuous amount of the space is

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totally blank, does that reflect the thinking on Brexit. The Government

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thinking on Brexit is very clear, one of the problems is when you

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disagree with it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist and that is the

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problem the SNP have had all the way through, they don't like it. I think

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it occurs in every book I own. In welcoming this white paper I hope it

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heralds both unity in the party and the approach in leaving the European

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Union. May I commend all members the speech of the right honourable

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friend from North East Bedfordshire who yesterday spoke as the epitome

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of grace. I agree with him entirely on both accounts. Does Secretary of

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State except that the best way for the benefits of the common system

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and framework that enable UK and EU businesses, would be to stay in a

:31:52.:32:01.

single markets, there will need to be mechanisms to ensure UK

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regulations don't diverged from EU regulations and can explain what

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happens to sovereignty. The answer to the first question

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is no in terms of what the best relationship, we have laid this out

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in the paper and bearing in mind we are starting from a position of

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identity. He makes a good point we will publish that in due course, it

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is perfectly possible without reject to. Could my honourable friend

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inform the House so what the House will do to ensure the Gibraltar

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position and the free trade deal between passenger brothel which

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could happen before we leave? My honourable friend was giving

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evidence at the House of Lords on precisely this. We will protect

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their interests rigorously. The Secretary of State observes that the

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UK was a founding Member of the WTO but forgets that we were the driving

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force behind the completion of the single market. Does he understand

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how angry British businesses are that he should abandon that before

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negotiations even start. There is a lot of conflation that goes on

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between membership of single market and access to single markets. What

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British business wanted unfettered access, what German, French and

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Italian businesses want our unfettered access to our markets.

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In... Almost by definition because of coming out of the union that will

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happen, that is not to say we will not be making your, -- new

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arrangements, will be making arrangements with very clear in our

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mind to keep terrorism, crime under control but we will no doubt protect

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them. The local government Association has been asking for

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meetings with ministers about the impact on these processes on

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councils and how more powers can be devolved yet in the speech today I

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didn't a single reference to a local council and I can't see a single

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reference in the white paper having read it through quickly, or the

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Secretary of State now commit that the Government will have meaningful

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discussions with the LPGA and commit to the principle of subsidiarity as

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well. In a limited statement there is only so much you can do. The

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Minister of State in the department has already met with the LGA and has

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said he cancelled the local councils. I said I am willing to

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meet the mayors in the next round of elections so we're not putting the

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regions to one side, the very first meeting I heard after became

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secretary of state was in Blackburn talking to people in Lancashire.

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Thank you Mr Speaker. There are three British ambassadors in

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Brussels, can I ask my right honourable friend if he thinks our

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ambassador to the European Union will have his staff enhanced or

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indeed might he be scrapped after we leave the European Union? I assume

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he is talking about the upper ambassador and has 120 brilliant

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staff who will work for me. I don't know what the arrangements will be,

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what he refers to is an ambassador to Belgium, the Nato I assume and to

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our crab, the UK representation. We will undoubtedly have close

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relationships with the European Union and thereafter so it will be a

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pretty sizeable embassy I would think that it's won't be what it is

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now. Our current membership of the single market is governed by the EEA

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agreement and a note is the Government contention we are a

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Member by virtue, that may may not prove to be the case but can the

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Secretary of State be clear about the implications of our own domestic

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legislation in this regard, specifically the act of 1993, is the

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Government going to repeal it, if so when and will we get a vote? The EEA

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as it stands, once we are outside the European Union, whether we

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automatically cease to be a Member or not, as far as I'm concerned, it

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becomes an illegal empty vessel so we will look at that and if we do

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propose to withdraw will come back to the House.

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When European subjects have come to my surgery about their rights they

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have left an agreement that those rights must go hand-in-hand with

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UK's subjects living in their own countries. I hope he's got the

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message. I've got the message and so, incidentally, have the leaders

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of most of the countries. They also understand we have to protect

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British rights at the same time as we protect their citizens' rights.

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There is no question this is going to happen, it is a question of when

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and we are doing it as quickly as possible. We welcome the White Paper

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today and links with Ireland and trade and security and the wish for

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unfettered access. At the Northern Ireland affairs committee this week

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a custom specialist said the Irish for trading in goods would have to

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have board appoints either between Northern Ireland and Ireland, or

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much worse between Scotland and England and the island of Ireland.

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With the Minister guarantee we will not have hard borders of that type?

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We will not have hard borders. Two different levels, first the Common

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Travel Area exists already and has existed since 1923. In that respect

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nothing will change. In terms of goods there will be the softest and

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most invisible and frictionless border we can find. There is lots of

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technology these days ranging from a NPR ranging through to tagging of

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containers and trusted trade arrangements across borders, these

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things operate in Norway and Sweden, the US and Canada and so on,

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countries with very amicable relationships and open borders and

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we will do the same with Ireland. Doctor Andrew Mieres and. I thank

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the Secretary of State, the Venn diagram on page 48 is particularly

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insightful. People will know the European Union has concluded that

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stomach pathetically small numbers of free-trade agreements with other

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countries but there are some. Will he confirm there will either be a

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continuity arrangement with those countries on Brexit, or that that

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agreement will be the basis for an accelerated relationship with those

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very few countries? Yes, my Right Honourable friend, the Secretary of

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State for International Trade, has already been in touch with the most

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important ones, South Korea and others like that, and they seem very

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keen, both to maintain as it were grandfather rights, but also to

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improve on the deal and make it very much more tailored and specific to

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both our interests. Mr Speaker, I wanted to ask the question about the

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so-called Great Repeal Bill. The White Paper says it will preserve EU

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law which stands at the moment that we leave the European Union but goes

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on to say it foresees two pieces of primary legislation being brought

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forward. Then it goes on to say: they will be a problem with

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secondary legislation of the great repeal Bill, deficiencies. What

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deficiencies does he have in mind? Because the Great Repeal Bill will

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pass through in its official wording it were referred to Europe

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institutions or British institutions where necessary also it may refer

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to, for example, local government has to publish its procurement

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contracts in the European Journal. That would no longer be appropriate.

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Not on the government website and so on. It's that sort of concern we

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principally aimed the secondary legislation at. The major areas of

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policy change will be primarily in primary legislation and that's why

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we cited both examples. I welcome my Right Honourable friend's

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constructive approach and in that light could I draw his attention to

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a report by the European Parliament, highlighting Europeans' reliance,

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and urged negotiators to approach it in a constructive fashion. We intend

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to do so and it's in the interest of ourselves and European Union we do

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so. We don't want anything which causes instability in the Eurozone

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anymore that anything that damages the city. Margaret Ferrier.

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Remarkably the White Paper does not contain a single reference to

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Eurojust or any real indication of our future cooperation with the EU

:42:18.:42:22.

on criminal justice matters. It begs the question if something is so

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significant has been omitted what else is missing? Never mind a White

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Paper, this is a lightweight paper. She worked very hard to get her

:42:31.:42:35.

sound bite out. There is a whole section on justice and home affairs

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and we have made it very plain, over and over again, that we intend to

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maintain close Corporation, I even said in my statement at the

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beginning, closer cooperation with Europe, not less cooperation with

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Europe on matters of security and crime and intelligence. Understand

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that Europe has a great deal to gain from this. We are the intelligence

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superpower in Europe, we have the most powerful intelligence agencies,

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and therefore in things like crime and terrorism we are very important

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to them, as we think they are to us too. Glyn Davies. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker, my hearing is a bit defective. There has already been

:43:18.:43:21.

significant discussion between the Prime Minister and Welsh government

:43:22.:43:25.

following the referendum last June. And discussion within the Welsh

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Parliament. I welcome this. In the interests of UK unity wells's

:43:30.:43:33.

interests must be taken into account, including discussion of

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this White Paper -- Wales's interests. Can you guarantee the

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involvement of Wales and continued to feature in our discussions,

:43:42.:43:46.

accepting that there can be no veto? He is absolutely right and that has

:43:47.:43:50.

been the approach we have taken. We have had a number of meetings of the

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joint Mysterio committee, two shared. Mike Cherry by the Prime

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Minister and three of them by me -- joint ministerial committee. We have

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been to Wales to see the Welsh government and talk about some of

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these issues. My Right Honourable friend is appearing before the Welsh

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Parliament, Welsh committee, sorry, on the 14th. We are taking the

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interests of Wales extremely seriously. We will operate this

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negotiation so that no part of the United Kingdom loses. That's the

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aim. Madeleine Moon. If we are leaving the Single Market and

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Customs union, can the Secretary of State guarantee that my workers who

:44:33.:44:41.

make the steel for Nissan cars, two thirds of which are exported to the

:44:42.:44:49.

European Union, will have tariff free access to the European Union

:44:50.:44:53.

markets, or is it only promise to negotiate and seek? If she reads the

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White Paper she will see it lays out the European export of goods and

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services is 290 billion and hours to them is 230 billion so they clearly

:45:10.:45:17.

have a strong interest from as we do, in a tariff free goods access.

:45:18.:45:21.

For them goods are a much bigger part of it as well. This disparity

:45:22.:45:28.

is over 60 billion. There is every reason to expect we will succeed in

:45:29.:45:31.

what we want to do which is to protect jobs. Martin Vickers. My

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Right Honourable friend will recall last week at promised questions I

:45:38.:45:42.

asked about the seed sector that sector will be pleased with the

:45:43.:45:47.

comment in paragraph 8:1.6 giving full support but he will also be

:45:48.:45:51.

aware of the long-standing grievance of the fishing communities

:45:52.:45:54.

up-and-down the country following their sell-out in the original

:45:55.:45:58.

negotiations. Can he reiterate once again that that will not occur on

:45:59.:46:07.

this occasion? Yes. Martin Docherty-Hughes. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. The Secretary of State makes much of the process and joked

:46:14.:46:17.

that we might be at this for another two years, yet in that time the

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unelected and unaccountable House of Lords will have more influence on

:46:22.:46:25.

the implementation of the White Paper and the negotiations in

:46:26.:46:28.

relationships we must forge for trade agreements than the

:46:29.:46:31.

governments of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. How does that

:46:32.:46:36.

strengthen the union? It's simply not the case. As I just said to my

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honourable friend, we have regular monthly meetings with the Scottish

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Government, the Welsh government, the Northern Irish executive when

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they are in play and we are taking what they say very seriously. We

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won't agree with everything they say, as you well know. We had the

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Scottish Government's paper presented at the last meeting and

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there were areas of agreement on employment protection, areas of

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agreement on environmental to. There were disagreements over the concept

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of a carve out of the Single Market and a discussion on the question of

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how devolution will work. That is hardly not paying attention to the

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Scottish Government. Mr Speaker, thank you. I welcome the White Paper

:47:25.:47:28.

and I am glad the government has listened to members and may I say

:47:29.:47:31.

that EU nationals play a vital part in a university's workplaces. Can I

:47:32.:47:36.

ask the Secretary of State while I support the need for some control of

:47:37.:47:40.

freedom of movement, will he ensure in negotiations that workers,

:47:41.:47:44.

students, family members find that our borders remain open if they are

:47:45.:47:48.

from the EU? After all, control does not mean arbitrary restrictions?

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Absolutely, control does not mean slamming the door. As I said before,

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it's in the UK interest to actually keep attracting talent, and when you

:47:58.:48:04.

attract talent you attract their families. That goes without saying.

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This is one of the things, I was asked if I could promise something

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earlier to be negotiated, this is something we will decide in this

:48:11.:48:13.

House for the first time in a couple of years' time. One crucial, I think

:48:14.:48:20.

reasonable, question for the Secretary of State, is how does he

:48:21.:48:24.

seek frictionless, unfettered trade with the EU continuing after we have

:48:25.:48:29.

signed free-trade deals with other countries? Surely, Secretary of

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State, the greater the divergence between ourselves and Single Market

:48:32.:48:34.

in terms of external tariffs and standards the greater their need at

:48:35.:48:37.

some point to impose customs duties on us. We seek to maintain some kind

:48:38.:48:43.

of standard parity, whether it is by a measure of equivalence or whatever

:48:44.:48:47.

depending on the product. The area where the deals outside and the

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deals with the European Union conflict, if you like, is in the

:48:52.:48:55.

area of rules of origin. We will have to have a good rules of origin

:48:56.:49:01.

scheme, just as any other free-trade area has. For example, if you look

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at the Canadian treaty it has specific rules of origin and we will

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need to do the same. That is a very small burden by comparison with the

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sort of things people are worrying about if we get the customs

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agreement we seek. Thank you, Mr Speaker. When does my Right

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Honourable thing, if ever, the European Union will issue an

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equivalent White Paper setting out with equal clarity the agreed

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negotiating objectives of the 27 other members? Well, his question

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sort of answers itself. But I hope, I hope, once they have received the

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Article 50 letter from us in April or May, in their case they will

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receive it in March and respond in April.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. I know that today is Groundhog Day, but why are

:49:54.:49:57.

we exiting the customs union in order to recreate the customs union?

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It is to create a customs agreement, in order to enable us to develop

:50:03.:50:08.

free-trade agreements with that huge portion of the world where there is

:50:09.:50:12.

very fast growth and where we have a strong market presence. 40%, as much

:50:13.:50:23.

of our trade now is with areas where we don't have

:50:24.:50:24.

as it is with the European Union. It is a very large area and it is

:50:25.:50:27.

growing, sometimes twice as fast, as the EU is. That's why we have to

:50:28.:50:34.

talk about the implications of the referendum are young people. The

:50:35.:50:37.

biggest application is the prospect of jobs in the future and many of

:50:38.:50:41.

those will come from global markets, not just European ones. Nigel Evans.

:50:42.:50:49.

Lots of the politicians in EU states say they are against torture but

:50:50.:50:52.

don't they recognise the fact they are not willing to come to a deal

:50:53.:50:56.

with him about EU citizens being allowed to stay, live and work here

:50:57.:50:59.

and British citizens being allowed to live and stay and work in the EU

:51:00.:51:05.

countries is a form of mental trauma and torture they are perpetrating

:51:06.:51:08.

upon them? Will he redouble his efforts to get the deal done as

:51:09.:51:11.

quickly as possible and make the announcement as quickly as possible.

:51:12.:51:15.

If there is only one or two countries holding out for whatever

:51:16.:51:18.

reason, will he be prepared to name and shame them in order that The

:51:19.:51:21.

Citizens here can bring pressure upon them to get a deal done? I will

:51:22.:51:26.

certainly do the first half, I will redouble my efforts, though they are

:51:27.:51:30.

pretty intense anyway, to ensure that this happens quickly. He's

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right, it's just a few, and I suspect their reasoning is the sort

:51:35.:51:40.

of community reasoning of not starting anything before the

:51:41.:51:43.

negotiations start and I hope that will be rapidly resolved thereafter.

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Doctor Julian Lewis. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Doesn't the fact that so

:51:50.:51:52.

many honourable members on both sides of the House who wanted us to

:51:53.:51:57.

remain in the European Union, but nevertheless last night voted to

:51:58.:52:02.

trigger Article 50, set a fine example that members of the

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unelected upper house would do very well to follow? Mr Speaker, I am

:52:08.:52:14.

sitting here calculating whether his question today was longer than his

:52:15.:52:18.

speech yesterday. I think it was. Yes, I hope they pay attention.

:52:19.:52:24.

Look, this Bill is a manifestation of the will of the people. Nearly

:52:25.:52:30.

17.5 million people. I would expect the upper house, it has its place

:52:31.:52:33.

and it has its rights quite properly, but I would expect the

:52:34.:52:38.

upper house to respect that will. SPEAKER: I'm grateful to the

:52:39.:52:43.

Secretary of State and two colleagues. We come now to the

:52:44.:52:47.

Select Committee Statement. In a moment the chair of the public

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administration and Constitutional affairs Select Committee of the

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House, Mr Bernard Jenkin, will speak on his subject for up to ten minutes

:52:55.:53:00.

during which time no interventions may be taken. At the conclusion of

:53:01.:53:06.

his statement the chair will call members to put questions on the

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subject of the statement and call Mr Jenkin to respond to these in turn.

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Members can expect to be called only once. Interventions should be

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questions and should be brief. The front bench may take part in

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questioning. I call the

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