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Afghanistan and President Karzai's decision to have talks with the | :00:02. | :00:12. | |
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Taliban. But now it is time for Welcome to this Reporters special, | :00:18. | :00:28. | |
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Inside Syria. I'm Jeremy Bowen, the BBC's Middle East editor. | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
Kalashnikovs against tanks. The defiance of anti-government | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
protesters, ready to lay down their lives to overthrow President Assad. | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
But he has supporters who will die for him. His supporters rallying | :00:41. | :00:48. | |
for Damascus call the uprising a terrorist plot. It is not a war yet | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
but it is starting to look like one. Security forces are taking | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
casualties as well. The Foreign Minister rejects the Arab League's | :00:56. | :01:05. | |
peace plan. And no way back. We meet the defectors from the Syrian | :01:05. | :01:14. | |
army now fighting for the right to We have had a lot more freedom to | :01:14. | :01:20. | |
report here in Damascus than ever. We come to this place where a | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
funeral is happening without any kind of government officials. | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
Otherwise we would not have made it through the Free Syrian Army checks | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
points. I thought this place would be like Tripoli under Colonel | :01:32. | :01:39. | |
Gaddafi where sometimes we were locked up. That has not happened. | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
We have found a city near Damascus where President Assad's does not | :01:42. | :01:52. | |
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necessarily have control. We have been to other places. We have been | :01:55. | :02:02. | |
to a town called Zabadani. There is a ceasefire in Zabadani. After ten | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
months of trauma for local people. The army has outposts that they're | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
not shooting. The regime was forced into a truce because their men came | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
into conflict with others. Zabadani is a half-hour's drive from | :02:18. | :02:28. | |
Damascus. I saw pockets of damage from the fighting. An activist said | :02:28. | :02:34. | |
that he would be in more danger if his face was shown. What are you | :02:34. | :02:42. | |
going to do next week or the week after that? We will still protest. | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
Protest every day. Until the regime comes down. We will defend | :02:47. | :02:56. | |
Zabadani's main square is now dominated by what Syrians call the | :02:56. | :03:05. | |
Independence Square. Protesters want revive national symbols. These | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
people are effectively in control of their town and able to walk in | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
the main square unmolested by security forces is a sign that the | :03:11. | :03:18. | |
regime is feeling the strain of the uprising. This movement may not | :03:18. | :03:27. | |
last long. President Assad's forces are still camped on the outskirts. | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
These are the local heroes, fighters from the Free Syrian Army. | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
Defectors from the regular forces and men who have taken up arms. | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
They are celebrating a victory but some worry that the men have only | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
pulled back because of pressure from the Arab League. The fighters | :03:43. | :03:50. | |
say they will be ready. They have heavy weapons, you have | :03:50. | :04:00. | |
Kalashnikovs, how can you win this? God willing, we will win. He says | :04:00. | :04:10. | |
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we are ready to die for the women The chant was, God salute the Free | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
Army. It is acknowledgement that the rebel fighters are changing the | :04:20. | :04:30. | |
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balance of power. The fireworks were to tell people it was time to | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
protest. Zabadani is not the only town near Damascus seeding | :04:37. | :04:45. | |
rebellion. It is the only one where the President has ceded power to | :04:45. | :04:51. | |
the protesters. It is enough for me to have these two days of freedom. | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
It does not matter if I die tomorrow. It is enough that I live | :04:55. | :05:04. | |
The regime's forces are overstretched. But they are still | :05:04. | :05:12. | |
powerful. This could be a pause, not a new beginning. This activity | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
should not give the impression that he has lost control of his capital | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
city. The fact is that the regime still has many strengths and some | :05:20. | :05:27. | |
genuine support. Especially from the group that President Assad | :05:27. | :05:37. | |
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comes from. We went to District 86, one of their heartlands. Minutes | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
after we arrived in District 86 in Damascus we were surrounded by | :05:44. | :05:51. | |
support for President Bashar al- Assad. They were expecting us and | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
had their banners ready. There is no reason to suppose this is not | :05:55. | :06:05. | |
genuine. These people are from a religious sect that makes up 10% of | :06:05. | :06:15. | |
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the Syrian population. All they want support from the Arab League | :06:16. | :06:26. | |
in what they call his fight against We love our president. We love | :06:26. | :06:36. | |
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Bashar al-Assad. He loves us. love Bashar al-Assad. I love Bashar | :06:36. | :06:46. | |
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al-Assad. Everyone loves Bashar al- This is the bedrock of his support. | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
People from his own community. They are 100% behind what he is doing. | :06:52. | :07:02. | |
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They believe that this uprising District 86 is named after a | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
military unit. Many of the men who work live here work for the | :07:06. | :07:13. | |
security forces. These boys say their older brother was killed this | :07:14. | :07:23. | |
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He says he just signed up with He might find himself in a suburb | :07:26. | :07:34. | |
of Damascus. These videos seemed to confirm reports that a unit was | :07:34. | :07:44. | |
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attacked. -- a funeral. Four people, protesters say, were killed by the | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
military. The dead laid out in a mosque. The army was outside. Later | :07:57. | :08:05. | |
it was claimed they were driven out. The Free Syrian Army say they did | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
it and threatened to attack the presidential palace and hang five | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
prisoners if the regime's forces came back. They Arab League warns | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
of the risk of civil war. So far it has not found a way to stop the | :08:18. | :08:26. | |
slide towards it. Pressure was coming from abroad. Syria's Foreign | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
Minister delivered Syria's response. He accused the Arab League of | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
ignoring a report from its own monitors and dismissed a peace plan | :08:34. | :08:42. | |
that would have meant President Bashar al-Assad standing down. | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
came up with a draft resolution, a political one, so we would not | :08:45. | :08:55. | |
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accept it. It is a blatant resolution that attacks Syria's | :08:56. | :09:06. | |
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sovereignty. It is an interference in Syria's internal affairs. This | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
means that they have not discussed the report in detail, despite their | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
work on the ground for one month and their fact-finding mission on | :09:18. | :09:28. | |
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We have been able to get out of Damascus. We went on a trip to Homs, | :09:39. | :09:47. | |
the town in northern Syria that is one of the centres of the uprising. | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
We were not able to get to the equivalent of this place, the place | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
where the uprising is going on. We were on the government's side. What | :09:55. | :10:03. | |
I found there was something that was starting to feel like a war. In | :10:03. | :10:10. | |
northern Homs the regime was burying its dead. Three soldiers | :10:10. | :10:18. | |
who officials say died in an ambush that killed them. -- 11. In almost | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
a year of rebellion and the regime says that 2,000 of its people have | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
been killed. President Assad claimed that he faced a land | :10:24. | :10:34. | |
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uprising. 2012 feels very different. On the edge of Damascus, more | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
funerals, of 11 anti-Assad demonstrators. The UN says more | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
than 5,000 protesters have been killed by the regime. Many more | :10:47. | :10:54. | |
have been wounded. Back in Homs, the regime's casualties were coming | :10:54. | :11:02. | |
to the hospital. Three dead soldiers as well. The damage is | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
being inflicted by these men's former comrades, defectors from the | :11:04. | :11:13. | |
regime's forces. They were killed an hour ago, says the ambulance | :11:13. | :11:22. | |
driver. It is not a war in Syria. But in parts of Homs, it is looking | :11:22. | :11:32. | |
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like one. A lot of shooting here. Yes. What you think about President | :11:35. | :11:45. | |
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Assad? I want to finish my life with my family. Do not ask me about | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
the President. Do not ask me about him. Homs feels exhausted and | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
despairing. The violence that is now part of the uprising, | :11:58. | :12:08. | |
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protesters say it is a backlash against so many civilian deaths. | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
There is a terrible example just a few hours' drive from here about | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
what can go wrong. The country was torn apart by a civil war. The big | :12:19. | :12:29. | |
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fear in Syria is that something like that could happen here. The | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
challenge now is to find a way to stop the slide into a future that | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
no-one wants. The Free Syrian Army are increasingly active in Damascus. | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
One of the suburbs, today at any rate, the regime's route does not | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
run. A few nights ago, I went to a place not too far from here, Duma. | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
We had to do it under the cover of darkness. Look at central Damascus | :12:50. | :12:57. | |
and you may think the city is calm. There when night falls, head for | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
the suburb of Duma, only 15 minutes' drive away. Getting into | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
Duma is not easy. But at the end of a muddy lane there is a checkpoint | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
controlled by the Free Syrian Army. A loose alliance of mainly army | :13:12. | :13:18. | |
defectors across the country who are fighting President Assad's men. | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
Locals say they keep the President's men out most of the | :13:21. | :13:28. | |
time. Their light weapons, shotguns and pistols, cannot stop an assault, | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
but could make it costly for the regime's forces to stay too long. | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
The President says they are an armed gang directed by foreign | :13:36. | :13:45. | |
conspiracies. They say they are protecting the people. Pass this on | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
to the world, our revolution is peaceful, we did not attack the | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
regime, they attacked us. We are in control here, Duma is ours, Syria | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
is ours, and we will win. The army and security forces keep trying to | :14:00. | :14:10. | |
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get into here, but we defeat them. Duma is forbidding and dark, with | :14:10. | :14:20. | |
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power cuts and fuel shortages. The nights are very cold. So what has | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
changed around here that means we are able to move in? I saw the Free | :14:25. | :14:35. | |
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Syrian Army. The army and the security are on the outskirts. | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
you mean these are defectors who are fighting for you now? Yes. | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
Slowly people emerge from the evening prayer. Too often for them, | :14:46. | :14:53. | |
the nights have belonged to the President's arrest squads. They | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
head for the mosque where numbers make them feel strong. We are not | :15:00. | :15:10. | |
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identifying interviewees at their request. What do you think should | :15:11. | :15:19. | |
happen to him? We want to kill him. He has to be killed. You want him | :15:20. | :15:29. | |
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dead? Of course. He killed our families and our people. He has to | :15:30. | :15:40. | |
be killed. The young men were full of bravado. The older ones also | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
talked about victory but are more conscious of the regime's strength. | :15:43. | :15:50. | |
Do you want foreign intervention? We are going to win whether there | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
is intervention from outside or not. But intervention will accelerate | :15:54. | :16:01. | |
the step down of Bashar al-Assad. Their enemy, the President, also | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
has strong supporters who will fight for him. But for protesters | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
across the country, there is no turning back. This is all bad news | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
for the President. An important part of his capital city in the | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
hands of the people and defended by men who had defected from his armed | :16:22. | :16:29. | |
forces. It depends on how much firepower the President has at his | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
disposal and whether he chooses to use it to regain control of the | :16:32. | :16:42. | |
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streets. They said it was getting dangerous and hustled us out. A few | :16:42. | :16:49. | |
hours later, the security forces were back, arresting more people. | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
This is an area of Damascus that the President has lost control of. | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
We have heard that the police are coming. This has been a remarkable | :16:59. | :17:07. | |
morning. To find out the strength of the opposition, drive into the | :17:07. | :17:16. | |
suburbs of Damascus. It is only in the last five days that locals said | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
that the Free Syrian Army has been openly on the streets. There are | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
many defectors from the State Army. They say they are protecting the | :17:26. | :17:33. | |
people who are about to hold a funeral. One of them showed off his | :17:33. | :17:41. | |
old army identity card. They look well established, with sandbags in | :17:41. | :17:50. | |
position. Everyone was on edge. For ten months, the regime's forces | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
have been cracking down hard on Friday's protests. He said he had | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
been a general in the Syrian government forces. A man | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
interrupted to praise the Free Army. Then something no-one wanted to | :18:03. | :18:13. | |
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hear. Security coming? Do not be afraid, the general said. Our | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
resistance is strong. Some of them got ready to fight. Stay with me, | :18:21. | :18:29. | |
he said, do not be afraid. Sentries were sending information by | :18:29. | :18:37. | |
telephone. They all seemed to know what their jobs were. They moved | :18:37. | :18:47. | |
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deeper into the suburbs. It felt as if every man in the suburb was | :18:50. | :19:00. | |
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there. A big send-off for a man who had been killed by the city forces. | :19:03. | :19:10. | |
Across Syria, funerals are a focus for the opposition. They chanted, | :19:10. | :19:18. | |
oh God, you are all we have. Oh God, we are your men. This is another | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
section of the suburbs of Damascus that has slipped out of the control | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
of President Assad. The only way he can comport his authority is by | :19:26. | :19:33. | |
sending in his men and using their guns and their bullets. And for a | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
moment, that is what they thought was about to happen. It shows the | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
tension, even with the Free Syrian Army close by. But it was time for | :19:43. | :19:51. | |
us to go. We were warned about snipers ahead. Getting out was not | :19:51. | :19:58. | |
easy. They control a surprisingly big area but it was surrounded. All | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
this does not mean the President is about to fall. He has his own | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
strong support and heavy weapons. But the regime's forces cannot be | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
everywhere at once, and the power of the opposition is growing. | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
President Assad has sustained some serious blows, the Free Syrian Army | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
is stronger than it has been. But the regime is still strong as well, | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
and he is determined to fight it out, to hang on, and he believes | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
that time is on his side, and he believes he has enough foreign | :20:30. | :20:37. |