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Welcome to Reporters. I'm Philippa Thomas.

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From here in the BBC newsroom, we send out correspondents to bring

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you the best reports from across the globe.

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In this week's programme: Defectors from Daesh.

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Quentin Somerville gets exclusive access to a Syrian camp for former

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so-called Islamic State jihadists and their families

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TRANSLATION: They use people like human meat.

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I hope I can get out soon and live my life normally.

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Hello, my name is Cathy Ingram, and I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

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I am Jay Ingram and this is my son Cade, and we are voting for Trump.

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With less than four weeks to go until the US election,

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Rajini Vaidyanathan meets one of many families divided

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Poppy Delevingne reports from Ethiopia on a global trade

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in which a girl under the age of 15 gets married every seven seconds.

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I have a 13-year-old cousin, and the idea of her getting

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married and then, even next year, having a baby...

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to me, is just totally incomprehensible.

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Chris Buckler visits Londonderry in Northern Ireland and asks,

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could there be some truth in the legend?

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Do you object to being called a giant?

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No, not at all, people call me what they like,

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As the Formula E motor racing championships get

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going in Hong Kong, Mike Bushell finds out what all the fuss

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Actually, the breeze seems noisier than the car!

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It's a very eerie, but a special feeling.

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They're jihadist fighters, many who have come from all over

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the world, that share one thing in common.

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They have defected from the so-called Islamic State.

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The BBC has had exclusive access to a secret internment camp

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for around 300 former IS militants and captured fighters,

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including French, Dutch and Polish nationals

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They are being held at the prison, operated by a rebel group that

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claims it is trying to rehabilitate them, and in some cases,

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then release them, and as Quentin Somerville reports,

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Where do jihadists go when their beloved Islamic State

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Some are being held here, at a secret camp in northern Syria.

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The men are from Europe, across the Middle East,

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They are defectors and prisoners of war, so few want

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In retreat, many have brought their families with them.

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He joined the so-called Islamic State from Holland.

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Now a captive, he renounces the group.

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TRANSLATION: They use people like human meat.

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You give your life to them, so they are going to start to take

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I know I will get into trouble, that this is what I choose,

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I know I will get into trouble, but this is what I choose,

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I hope I can get out soon and live my life normally.

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These are Egyptians, Tunisians, Holland...

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The camp is run by the rebel group Jaish Al Tahrir.

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Its commander showed me the details of dozens of prisoners.

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Some will be returned to Europe if the authorities promise to jail

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them, but others will face Syrian justice.

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TRANSLATION: We refer them to courts and they roll according

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If they have committed murder, then they might be executed.

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Some are jailed just because they still hold

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The Islamic State's core is collapsing.

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They are losing territory, and an increasing number of people

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Joining IS was relatively easy, but leaving is difficult.

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"It was hard, really hard," says this defector,

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We have also learned that European intelligence agencies

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are on a mission in northern Syria to find, capture

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They are working alongside some rebel groups to create a kind

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of underground railroad which will bring IS group supporters

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For now, they are held in Syria, but these European jihadists

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Quentin Sommerville, BBC News, Istanbul.

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In four weeks' time, Americans will finally vote

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in their presidential election, which makes the fact that

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Donald Trump is waging war on his own Republican party

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But it's not just the Republicans who are divided.

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Many families are finding themselves at odds, some siding

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with Hillary Clinton, others with Donald Trump.

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Rajini Vaidyanathan has gone to meet one such

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family in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, facing

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In the key battleground state of Pennsylvania, the Ingram family

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Hello, my name is Cathy Ingram, and I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

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I'm Jay Ingram, this is my son Cade, and we're voting for Trump.

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I think she's totally crazy because she's voting for Hillary,

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and she thinks I'm totally crazy because I'm voting for Trump.

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And obviously one of us is right.

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These questions are all attacks on Trump.

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At dinner, talk of politics is unsurprisingly lively.

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Jay's vote for Donald Trump is as much a vote against

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Hillary Clinton, the candidate his wife Cathy is supporting.

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She wants to do the best for the country, so even though

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she has a little bit of a storied past, and she has some ideas that

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really need to be pushed through that on the Democratic side

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she hasn't been able to push through...

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You believe she comes off as a good person,

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She reminds me of the evil school ma'am, the schoolteacher.

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I mean, you know, she's old, she's overweight, just like...

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No, he is, what, he's 230 and hits a golf ball 280, so he's fine.

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A self-confessed liberal, Jay backed Bernie Sanders

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in this year's primaries and voted for Barack Obama

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I really believed he was going to do things.

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I believed what he said, fool that I am.

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He seemed to like to just sit around and tell jokes and look pretty.

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Their elder son Cade is getting ready to cast his ballot

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for the first time, and he's with his dad.

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I could not bring myself to vote for Hillary,

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there's just too many strikes against her.

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A lot of people like to make excuses for what happened, but...

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She'll literally say anything to get elected.

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We never threw one attack at Hillary and you think...

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The table's as split as this state, where it is looking close

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between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

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I golf every day of the week, and I meet a lot of people,

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and nobody comes out and goes "I'm voting for Trump."

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But, they'll come up to me after I've made a putt,

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I just don't think the passion is out there behind anyone,

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The undecided voters in Pennsylvania are key this election.

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Whatever the outcome, expect sparks to fly in this house

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Rajini Vaidyanathan, BBC News, Lancaster.

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Thousands of people are being trafficked across the world

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and forced into a life of prostitution or domestic slavery.

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Most come from a handful of countries.

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One of them is Romania, where sex trafficking

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Naomi Grimley has travelled there to investigate

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Mihaela, who's 26, is a survivor of human trafficking,

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and here in a women's shelter in Bucharest, she's trying

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Looking on is her baby girl, fathered by her last trafficker.

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She was trafficked not once, not twice, but three

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TRANSLATION: When crossing the border, I had a gun to my head,

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and they told me to give them the ID and to smile.

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In the mornings and afternoons, I'd have 15 clients,

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then in the evenings through to the next morning,

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In the end, it was a client racked with guilt who helped her to escape.

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Many of the victims of trafficking come from remote villages.

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This village in eastern Romania appears stuck in a bygone era.

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Many of the houses don't have running water.

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The traffickers have targeted this place, and the British person

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who runs the local community centre says a girl goes

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The girls fall for the "loverboy" scheme.

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They are mostly young, vulnerable teenagers,

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who fall in love with the pimps, who are normally older guys.

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The girls are very attracted by the Mercedes and the Audis that

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Juana was trafficked to Germany for prostitution.

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Now with her life back on track, she's come to the community

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centre to warn the local kids of the dangers.

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I tell the girls not to trust the guys so easy.

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Juana hopes she'll make the village's teenagers think twice.

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A village like this really struggles to offer its younger people the jobs

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and the opportunities that they might want

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in the 21st century, and the traffickers exploit that.

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They act, in effect, like real-life pied pipers.

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We went to a jail an hour north of Bucharest to meet a man

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who trafficked women into Italy for five years.

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TRANSLATION: I don't know if it's exploitation,

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but when a girl agrees, I don't think that this is exploitation.

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But how would you feel if it was your sister

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You really don't think that it's someone's daughter, you think just

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After all I've done, they have taken everything from me.

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I've got nothing, I have to start again from scratch,

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so I wouldn't be sorry to do it all again.

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Back in the village, the worry is that another three

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Some may go willingly to escape their poverty,

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but the life that awaits them - no one could ever

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Naomi Grimley, BBC News, eastern Romania.

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One girl under the age of 15 is married every seven seconds.

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That's the shocking conclusion of a new report by the charity

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The study says girls as young as ten are forced to marry much older men,

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in countries including Afghanistan, Yemen, India and Ethiopia.

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The British model Poppy Delevingne recently went to Ethiopia to see

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the problem first-hand, and this is her video diary.

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So, we've just arrived in a small village.

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This is where they run the Save the Children Keep It Real

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programme, and I'm going to be speaking to some young girls

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Pleased to meet you, how are you?

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OK, so right now I am with this girl.

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We are at her school, and she's just been telling me

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all about her stories about child marriage.

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She was 11 years old when she was propositioned to be married.

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And with the help of Save the Children's Keep it Real

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programme, she learned about all the problems within child

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marriage, and with the help of her brother and sister,

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they managed to persuade her parents that child marriage

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She is now at school, and is number one...

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And she even told me that I should ask the teacher if that

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I hear that you were married as a child.

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Would it be OK for me to come to your home and hear all about it?

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So, I spent my afternoon with this girl, who was a victim

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When she was just 13 years old, she was married.

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By the time she was 14 she was pregnant with her first

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child, but when she was nine months pregnant, she left her husband

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as he was physically abusive, and moved back in with her family.

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But not only that, when she was engaged to him,

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he promised her that she would still have an opportunity

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to have an education, something he totally went back on,

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and instead, she did house chores and had to work unbearable hours,

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something a 13-year-old really shouldn't have to do.

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I have a 13-year-old cousin, and the idea of her getting married

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and then even next year having a baby, to me, is just...

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totally incomprehensible, and something that I can't believe

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is happening in this world today still.

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But she has got a bright future ahead of her,

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and it was truly an honour that she shared her story with me.

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It has long been known for its welcoming Scandinavian

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attitude to foreigners, but Norway is getting

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The number of people seeking asylum has fallen dramatically this year,

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some deterred by strict new entry rules.

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Norway is also putting up a steel fence along its border with Russia.

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That follows an influx of 5,000 migrants, mainly

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Most cross from Russia at the Storskog border point,

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one of the most northerly outposts of the Schengen zone,

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from where Howard Johnson sent us this report.

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This is Norway's new and controversial border

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It's being built next to the Storskog border point,

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the northernmost road crossing into Europe's Schengen

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Last year, around 5,500 asylum seekers, many from Syria,

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crossed from Russia into Norway here, taking the so-called

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The flow of refugees has since come to a halt, but officials say

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the 200-metre-long fence will help secure the checkpoint in the event

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So, I'm on the Norwegian side of the fence here,

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and just over there, around 100 meters away,

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I'm not allowed to film in that direction because of security

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restrictions, but here is the new fence.

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It's four metres tall and around three millimetres thick, and it

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In the nearby town of Kirkenes, there's been a lukewarm reception.

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Since the fall of the Iron Curtain, authorities here have worked

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to improve ties with Russia, including visa-free travel

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for residents on both sides of the border.

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Leaders of the local municipality say the fence is a backward step.

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It's really embarrassing for us, as locals, so near Russia.

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We want to build bridges to Russia, not build fences.

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But what do Russians make of the fence?

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These market traders cross into Kirkenes every week

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to sell Russian goods to Norwegians and tourists.

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TRANSLATION: If the Norwegian authorities are building fences,

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they must need it, and it's right, too, because it's not just Syrian

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Norway's capital, Oslo, is nearly 2,000 kilometres away

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from the border crossing, but it was here that the decision

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According to the State Secretary for the Ministry of Justice,

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the debate about the fence has become a storm in a teacup.

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We have a very good working dialogue with the Russian authorities,

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and we also have to remember that the fence on the Russian side

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If I remember correctly, it's 200 kilometres,

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which means that this is nothing compared to what we already have.

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The fence is due for completion by the end of this month,

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but in the last week, a setback for construction.

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Border officials say a section of the barrier has been erected ten

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centimetres too close to Russia and will have to be dubbed...

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INTERFERENCE. Ireland is rich in mythical tales

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about giants, and now there is a thought that those

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legends may be built more Scientists are working to identify

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people carrying what Researchers have found it is more

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commonly carried people Researchers have found it is more

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commonly carried by people in County Londonderry

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in Northern Ireland. Chris Buckler has been

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there to find out, is there any These stone circles are not the only

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link to history here in Mid Ulster. This is a land of giants,

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and that's a title that comes not Among those strolling these shopping

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streets are a select group of people who carry what has become known

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as the giant gene. That's me when I was

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seven, eight years old. At his height, he stood almost six

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feet 11 inches tall, and it's likely he would have grown

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to well over seven feet tall if he hadn't been treated

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for a genetic disorder Do you object to being

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called a giant? No, not at all, people can

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call me what they like, However, gigantism is a condition

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that can be life-threatening. My mother passed it to me,

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and she never knew that. And many people still, to this day,

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are passing the gene on without knowing it,

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and that will continue. DNA evidence shows Brendan

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is related to Charles Byrne, whose skeleton is on display

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in a London museum. He was more than seven

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and a half feet tall. Born in Mid Ulster in the 1700s,

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he became famous in London But it's only a decade

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since scientists worked out a genetic link to the condition,

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which affects the pituitary gland, causing abnormal growth and many

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other medical problems. 20% of people who carry the gene

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will develop the disease, so people could develop blindness,

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severe headaches and die prematurely, but with effective

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therapy, I think that problem can be alleviated quite substantially,

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said the emphasis is really on early Irish folklore is full of tales

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of giants, not least Finn McCool, who is claimed to have built

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Antrim's famous Giant's Causeway. Researchers believe in at least some

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of the many stories, And with the gene still present

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in the population here, they have been carrying out tests

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to try to identify There's clearly a giant hotspot

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in the middle of Northern Ireland. We were surprised as well,

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because a lot of people we found really are no

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different than anybody else, they are normal height,

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stature and so on, but of course, it's the complications that maybe

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one or two generations down the line, in their children

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or grandchildren - that's what we're hoping

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to prevent with this. There was probably at least some

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truth in the centuries of stories told about giants,

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but it's likely that at their heart was a gene that caused

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considerable pain and problems. That's why many want the idea

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of generations of giants to be Chris Buckler, BBC News,

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Mid Ulster. Now, you've no doubt

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heard of Formula 1, Well, it's the race

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series for electric cars, and the new season started this week

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in Hong Kong. There are three British drivers

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competing this year, including Sam Bird, who finished

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fourth last season. Before he left for his first race

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in Hong Kong, Mike Bushell took his car for a spin,

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and discovered why, in this sport, the fans can directly

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influence the outcome. Batteries supply the only juice

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that this car needs. The electric car has come a long way

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since it was a bit of a novelty. The mechanism is so simple that even

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a child could drive it. Now they claim to be the future,

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and the glitz and glamour of the third Formula E World

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Championship gets back on the road this weekend, and these machines

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are not as easy to drive. This car's so tricky to drive,

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it's so intricate, and requires I think it's the toughest category

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I've ever done, including Formula 1, One thing that hasn't

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changed, really, is how If this was a Formula 1 pit lane,

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we wouldn't be able Almost half the noise

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of a Formula 1 car. It can reach speeds of 140 mph,

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but it is this sudden acceleration and take-off speed, if you like,

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that makes them stand out, The batteries that provide this

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speed could soon be able to last At the moment, the drivers swap

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cars halfway through. The batteries are charged

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by generators powered by glycerin, part of the sport's drive to be

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the environmentally friendly future Now we can quite easily make

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electric cars practical for 90% of people, for most of their needs,

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so I think half the job of Formula E is not only to develop the tech,

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but also to change perceptions. This is the future whether we like

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it or not. This is high-tech,

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innovative technology, and we are at the forefront of it,

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and long may that continue. And if Sam is to be at the forefront

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this season, he will need his car back in one piece after handing me

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the keys so I could get an exclusive I feel quite hemmed in,

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especially around the gills, but this electric go-kart,

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if you like, is worth a cool Suddenly your stomach

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is left behind you, It is the torque, that acceleration,

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it just feels very different. Actually, the breeze seems noisier

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than the car! It's a very eerie,

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but a special feeling. I was taking it easy,

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nudging 70 mph, but if I wanted extra speed in a race,

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I could turn to the fans. The drivers receiving most votes

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online get a three-second power It's just a way of

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communicating with the fans. Do you have any other sport

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where a fan can actually Not even the fan-boost scheme,

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though, could help my speed. But at least the car

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got back safely. Yes, back in one piece,

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I can breathe again! And that's all from

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Reporters for this week. From me, Philippa Thomas,

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goodbye for now. We have seen different sides to

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Orton today, a huge contrasts in the weather.

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