23/10/2012 Reporting Scotland


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And Welcome to Reporting Scotland. Alex Salmond under pressure over

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independence. Abuse sought advice from your own Scottish law

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officers? We had. What did they say? The First Minister denies that

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he lies in that interview from the BBC over advice in EU membership.

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Those outside this chamber who make those assertions will have the

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courtesy and integrity to withdraw them. And he loses two MSPs. There

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opposed to the party's support of NATO.

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Offshore at unions show growing safety concerns after the ditching

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of this aircraft in the North Sea. Diggers move into Dalgety Bay to

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find the extent of radioactive contamination there.

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And can Celtic see off the might of Messi tonight in the Champions

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League against Barcelona? The First Minister has denied lying

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over whether his Government obtained legal advice on an

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independent Scotland's potential membership of the European Union.

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Two of his MSPs quit to take over another issue, opponents claim also

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that he had said he had sought legal advice when it claims today

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word that he had not. We will hear more on the resignations that first

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Raymond Buchanan reports from Parliament.

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Would an independent Scotland state in Europe? The First Minister has

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always been confident. Have you sorted vice? We have. What did they

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say? You can read that in the documents be put forward which it

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argued that position would be successful. What do they say?

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cannot reveal the legal advice of law officers. That seems a very

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clear. The advice of law officers was not. But today his own deputy

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told parliament this. The Scottish Government had previously cited

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opinions from eminent legal authorities past and present in

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support of its view that an independent Scotland... In support

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of its view that an independent Scotland will continue in

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membership of the European Union that has not sought specific legal

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advice. A political storm brewed and suddenly the First Minister was

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on his way to the chamber. You are accused of lying, have you? I will

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deal with that in Parliament in a few seconds. He made an emergency

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statement to MSPs saying that he has always been consistent and

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Labour have selectively quoted his BBC interview. In this partial

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transcript I have been described as a bare-faced liar and a quote that

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is used to justified this has me saying in response, we have, yes,

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you know why cannot release the legal advice all officers. That

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misses out 27 words across three separate answers. A have you

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clarified the position now? I think that has been clarified to the

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chamber's satisfaction. It is clear I was talking about Government

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documents and I have cited the references to the point. All

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Government documents are subject to the legal advice of law officers

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which is what I was referring to and no reasonable person would see

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anything different. He says bet you made him look like a liar when he

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is not a liar and if you are being honest you would apologise. I would

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say, let us have a full and frank debate. It is now time for debate

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following his statement. The people of Scotland need to have a proper

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opportunity to know what legal advice was received and how it was

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received. Nothing that Alex Salmond has said this evening clears up the

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dispute. We have our members of the Government telling us for months

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saying that they knew what our position would be in Europe and we

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find out today that they do not know. They have spent thousands of

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taxpayers' money trying to keep that information back.

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Two of the SNP's MSPs and as they were quitting the party over its

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support for NATO today. It was an angry debate at a party conference

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last week over at NATO membership of an independent Scotland. The

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leadership one that to beat. After at the SNP's heated NATO

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debate, the fall-out. To Highland MSPs left after it they could not

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stomach the policy of opposing nuclear weapons and Scotland but

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staying in military alliance. have wrestled with how I can swear

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staying in the party, I cannot. I cannot advocate joining NATO.

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is the only reason that I am making this horrendous decision. I am not

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proud of it, but I feel for my own integrity it is the only thing I

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can do. She and Hackett and John Finnie were part of a group of MSPs

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and opposed the leadership during the conference debate last week.

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The man leading the change was even a year it. -- was shouted at.

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can shout. You can shout. I knew it was the first SNP reaction to these

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rare -- resignations? I only had a short time ago. And what you think

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as somebody that voted for the change of polity on NATO? I think

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it was the right decisions. It is a decision that many feel

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passionately about. Will others follow and resign from the party?

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Here is another that was opposed. Are you considering following them?

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No comment. That is not the same as snow. No comment.

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But the party leadership might believe that sacrificing some MSPs

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is worth a bigger prize. They believe most -- most Scottish

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people want to stay in NATO and they want them to vote for

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independence. That has gone out to Holyrood and

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Raymond Buchanan. Not a great day for the SNP.

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A probably one of Alex Salmond worst days since becoming minister

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in 2007. Starting with those Highlands and Islands MSPs saying

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they were quitting, I understand there is another MSP considering

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their position following that device they have NATO to beat. Then

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we have the First Minister rushing to chamber in order to make an

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emergency statement over whether an independent Scotland would maintain

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its membership of the EU. Alex Salmond explanation was that he

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could not ask lobsters for specific details because he did not have

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specific details. -- Law makers. Opponents are not satisfied vote.

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Why is this supped -- why it is so important? One of the singular

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arguments from the SNP is to say that we're good at Government and

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we are competent, trust us what health and education and then trust

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us with foreign affairs and tax also. If he has too many of these

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bad days then the chances of having losing that they will look more

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likely. -- bad faith. A still to come: from the other

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side of the world, supporters of Morton football club.

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And in sport Celtic face Messi in the Champions League tonight. Also

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Ricky Burns confirms his latest opponent and says he has set up a

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unification bout for next year. We will also have rugby news.

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Unions say they are concerned for the safety of offshore workers

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after the latest ditching of a helicopter in a sea of of Shetland.

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19 people were rescued after at the incident involving a Super Puma.

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Eurocopter says it has full confidence in their aircraft

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despite so many incidents in the last few years.

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These exclusive pictures showed the helicopter today as it is attached

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to it hock to protect the aircraft from a heavy swell. It is expected

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to arrive in the North East tomorrow morning. These pictures

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show the aftermath of yesterday's ditching. The 17 passengers and two

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crew clambered into life rafts after being -- and Ben were picked

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up and airlifted to Orkney and Shetland. Some are recovering their

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last night and glad to be a light. Yes, I was afraid. But you training

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kept saying. Everybody was calm. Everybody got away from the

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helicopter. Or a work as today were left waiting. They were held back

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by the weather and the decision to ground aircraft similar to that

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involved in yesterday's incident. And have been offshore for about 35

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years and I feel very safe in the hand of all helicopter operators in

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the North Sea. It is one of those things, there is less chance of

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that and being in a car crash. It is a risk you take. But offshore

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unions are worried. Yesterday's incident was the third ditching in

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three years involving a Super Puma. We have had phone calls to date

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with the concerns of the offshore workers about flying off shore in

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these types of helicopters. But the reality is that it you want to work

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of sure you have to be in a helicopter. We need to make sure

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that it you going a helicopter you OCD and he -- you go safely and to

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come back safely. The stress but safety is paramount and walkers

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pass rigorous tests been checked before be unable to fly off shore.

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It just goes to show that the training we deliver is paramount to

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these guys see the. The accident staff are right date to be in the

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Act investigation. Eurocopter also have a team in Aberdeen. The said

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that they have full confidence in the aircraft. But tonight no one

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knows when the might fly again. Colin Wight is at heliport tonight.

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How long a be set to be grounded for?

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It is anybody guess. Last time it happened it took at least a week

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before flights got back to normal. A lot will depend on the

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investigation which will happen in earnest when the helicopter arrives

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back in Peter Hyett tomorrow morning. There are strong industry

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rumours that it could have been another gearbox problem. -- in

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Aberdeen. No one knows for certain at the moment. A lot of this will

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be examined in detail tomorrow when a special meeting of their

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helicopter a steering group meets your in Aberdeen bringing all of

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the industry together. Work to establish the scale of

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radioactive contamination in Dalgety Bay has begun. It is the

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largest survey to date and it is thought to come from aircraft

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scrapped in the First World War. It could become the first area of

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radioactive land. The digging for answers began this

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morning. The biggest effort yet to determine the radiation leakage but

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lights this community. Over the last 12 months they have been found

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in increasing numbers and strength leaving officials concerned that

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the problem is getting worse rather than better.

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We know that ahead land by the yacht club has built using World

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War II aircraft that had radioactive instrument dials. Here

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the will decide whether it that is limited to the head land corridor

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just how far back it goes. The Ministry of Defence to responsible

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for the aircraft have agreed to carry out the work and have a

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deadline of May to produce a plan to clean up the area once and for

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all. This is the biggest piece of work that has been done to date. We

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will be looking at that roses as it goes on to make sure that thing is

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that for a purpose. It will bring about a characterisation of the

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site. Her so sensitive is this issue that the sailing club or at

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the Les -- were the last to allow the work to start and refused

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permission to fill today -- to film today. I am pleased it is finally

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happening. It is staged two of the investigation. I am optimistic that

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we're going somewhere wet this investigation. The light is no

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appearing at the end of the tunnel. Life in Dalgety Bay goes on as

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normal but there is an apprehension, in six months a plan must be in

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place to avoid this becoming the first contaminated land in the

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country. A couple in their 60s found dead in

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their home yesterday in the Muirend area of Glasgow have been named as

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George Garcia and his wife Betsy. It is understood police are not

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seeking anyone else in connection with their deaths.

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Some university lecturers are striking today. Members of the EIS

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union, who mostly work in newer universities, have walked out in

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pursuit of a pay claim. Union leaders say below-inflation rises

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over three years mean in real terms lecturers' pay has been cut by 12%.

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The Highland Council say disruption should be kept to a minimum as work

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gets underway moving utility pipes and cables in Inverness ahead of

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new flood defences being built in the city. Construction of the flood

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defences on the tidal part of the river Ness starts next year.

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want to mature into swimming when you're 16 and then make the series

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decisions. A �10 million fund to help build

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local sports facilities has been launched as part of the build up to

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the Commonwealth Games. Grant applications are being sought from

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across Scotland. The Active Places Fund aims to help people to take up

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or do more physical exercise. A new network of footpaths is being

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built to connect the Culloden Battlefield with the surrounding

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local community. The �200,000 project will link the villages of

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Balloch, Smithton and Culloden, and enable walkers to reach the

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historic battlefield through 5 miles of trails. It is important

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that people understand the impact that it had here and throughout the

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world. The Scottish Government is pumping

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�1.7 million into restoring damaged peatlands. They cover about 20% of

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Scotland and research suggests they play a key role in reducing

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greenhouse gas emissions. And there are more stories from

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your area, and all the latest news, 24 hours a day on BBC Scotland's

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It's been a mystery for nearly 70 years. Just what did happen to

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dozens of bodies recovered after a wartime sea tragedy off the west

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coast of Scotland? It's long been suspected the men were dumped

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without ceremony in a mass grave as part of an official cover-up and

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work under way this week could finally prove it. Willie Johnston

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reports. March 1943, the British aircraft carrier explodes and sinks

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in the Firth of Clyde. It was a US merchant ship converted by the

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Americans for war. The ship was not safe. In fact, it could be

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described as being a floating bomb. There was a constant smell of

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petrol on that ship. All it required was a spark for it to blow

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up. It did and 379 it died. If you were commemorated in a cemetery.

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But many others were disposed of quietly as part of a cover-up to

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avoid embarrassing the Americans by revealing the true loss of life.

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From early on, there was talk of a mass grave. John Steele believes it

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right here, beside the marked graves, and he persuaded the

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council to petition the courts to investigate. We're trying to assess

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whether there is an unmarked grave there by doing as little damage to

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the ground as we possibly can, so we are really taken off the top

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soil to see if there is a burial ground there. Only a handful of

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victims were ever identified and given a proper burial. At least 44

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bodies recovered simply disappeared. If they ended up dumped in a mass

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grave, the work taking place this year should prove that and allow

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them finally to be properly remembered. 69 years later.

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Sport now and a task ahead for Celtic?

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Yes, they certainly do. Celtic are in Barcelona for a match their

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manager Neil Lennon's described as their ultimate test. They are up

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against the Spanish giants in the Champions League this evening.

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Think of Barcelona and perhaps you think of this. Maybe you think of

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the football club and, if so, you may think of this man, Lionel Messi.

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Perhaps the greatest player ever, his record is frightening. At just

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25 years old, he's already scored 180 league goals, 15 coming last

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season alone. They have helped him win five league titles, and three

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Champions Leagues. Just how do Celtic stop him? He is tough to

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deal with him. Watching him live for the first time on Saturday

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night was a privilege. He was just exceptional. I don't think I could

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come up with any superlatives which could do him justice. He wants his

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side to relish the opportunity to come up against the company and

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they are enjoying the trip and the prospect of watching his side take

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to the pitch. I'm optimistic but worried at the same time. A lot of

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people are writing us off but keep the face. The set pieces are going

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to be very important. These visiting supporters can take some

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heart from the knowledge they had twice come away from here withdraws

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in recent years. That was before Lionel Messi, though, and the

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goalkeeper will be a busy man at tonight. There is commentary on BBC

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Radio Scotland. Sportsound is on air now. And there will live text

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updates on-line too. Glasgow Warriors have signed former

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New Zealand Under-20 back Sean Maitland subject to a medical on a

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two-and-a-half year contract. The 24-year-old qualifies to play for

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Scotland through his grandparents, who were both born in Glasgow.

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Meanwhile, Edinburgh centre Nick De Luca says the club's poor start to

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this season. Is the fault of the players and not head coach Michael

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Bradley. Ricky Burns has set up a potential

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unification fight for early next year. The Scot will be favourite

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over the Englishman on the 15th December in London. He admits a big

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motivator is the thought of a unification bout with Adrien Broner

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of America. It's the month of October, when in

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racing the Jump Season gets properly under way. The racecourse

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at Musselburgh saw the official launch and it was a moment to

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celebrate recent success. Jonathan Sutherland's been checking the form.

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With some girl power lingering in the air, racing is in a pretty good

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place at the moment. There is the jockey, Lucy Alexander, 22 years

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old and in her first year as a professional, she has had 38

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winners, not bad in a male- dominated sport. Could you be a

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role model? Hopefully. Hopefully people will see that there's not

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such a barrier being a girl these days. If it brings more people into

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the sport, that's good. I never thought somebody is pretty and kind

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and nice as she is could combine that toughness with the skill she

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has got. She's doing a fantastic job. The Scots are showing good

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form. Jack Dexter won at Ascot this weekend although he was

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overshadowed by another horse. big emotional day. It was just

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superb. Jack Dexter on another day would have done well and been a big

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story. We bred him. He was one of the favourites. To go down there

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and win at Ascot is a big story in Scotland whatever. Another big

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story is the Scottish jumps season getting under way. There's no

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Frankel, but there is drizzle, but there is a sense in the sport that

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the wind is blowing in the right direction.

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That is your sport for this evening. A little bit more sport, though.

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Greenock Morton Football club has found a new group of fans and they

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are anything but local. In fact some come from thousands of miles

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away. They are Filipino and Italian sailors who have been stranded in

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Greenock for nearly three months after their ship was impounded.

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Aileen Clarke reports. This a bulk carrier has not been

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carrying anything since August. Impounded in Greenock Until

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financial issues are sorted out, the crew, comprising of Italians

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and Filipinos, are embracing the local culture. Keen football fans,

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they discovered the home ground of Greenock Morton was short ground

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from the ship, so the crew have been getting a taste of first

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division football which makes a welcome change from their own

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kickabout on the quayside. We are happy to watch the game. We enjoy

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it too much. Who would you normally be supporting? Morton. Morton.

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we find out that the people are very crazy about football. And the

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crowd are good, very happy. Quite so relaxed crowd watching the team

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training today. The club are sitting third in the First Division

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and on a six-match unbeaten run. A good time to be picking up more

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fans. It's good to know we have got people from a different country,

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not understanding Scottish football, perhaps, but I think they have

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praised us. Maybe more Filipinos will come on the boat and watch as

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next week. The club's global appeal is nothing new. In the shop, they

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are aware of the international fans, and a rake descending steps to

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Australia, New Zealand, America, even Japan. -- a regular the

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sending strips. -- regularly sending strips. Maybe these guys

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are better spectators. Let's get the weather now from

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Jackie, thank you very much. Stubborn mist and fog around today.

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A lovely picture from Catherine here. This evening and overnight,

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we will see a return of some mist and fog and in the south, some low

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cloud of thick enough to produce some trouble -- drizzle. Clear

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skies in the Central lowlands and temperatures will fall away down to

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minus two. In the south, with a cloud, it will be milder. Tomorrow

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morning, it will start fairly sunny and bright but there will be mist

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and fog first thing. Further south, generally dry but cloudy as we head

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through much of the day. And, in the north, across Orkney and

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Shetland, Caithness, the Outer Hebrides, cloudy for much of the

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day with outbreaks of light rain. Here are the brighter conditions,

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towards Aberdeen by the afternoon, stretching down to Kintyre and the

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south-west. The rest of the afternoon into the evening, and

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overnight, we continue to see those light outbreaks of rain in the far

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north and that is part of a weather front which is slowly moving its

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way southwards. You can see the cold front clearly there and it's

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quite important because it's the dividing line between the

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conditions we have seen and the conditions on the way. The yellow

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is being replaced by this a blue air coming down from the north, so

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it will be cold for Thursday and Friday, but actually better weather

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will come, dry and bright once the cloud breaks. If we take a look at

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the source region for it, and see where it is coming from, trace the

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isobars back, it's coming from the Arctic, so no wonder it is cold and

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there will be some snow as well, particularly in the hills and

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mountains of the north-east. On low levels in the Shetlands and very

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cold indeed. Dry, bright, crisp, sunny but cold, five degrees. That

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Thank you very much for that, Christopher.

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Now just time for a summary of tonight's main stories. The First

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Minister has denied lying over whether his government obtained

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legal advice on an independent Scotland's potential membership of

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the European Union. On the day two of his MSPs quit over another issue,

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Alex Salmond appeared before parliament after opponents claimed

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he had said in an interview he had sought legal advice, when it was

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confirmed today the party had not. The Director General of the BBC

:27:43.:27:46.

faced a grilling from MPs today over the Jimmy Savile sex abuse

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scandal. George Entwistle admitted that the corporation's handling of

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