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other news on the BBC News Channel, and on our website, but that is all

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for now. It is What would be the future

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of the Trident nuclear fleet under A new study says moving

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the submarines out of Scotland would And as the independence debate

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continues to gather momentum, Alistair Darling, the leader

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of the Better Together campaign, There is to be an inquiry into

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the controversial decision to allow No Tiger at the Ryder Cup

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as he rules himself out with a back injury but preparations

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at Gleneagles are well underway. We hear about the role

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an unknown Caithness detective played in helping to solve the

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Victorian Jack The Ripper murders. It is possible for

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the UK to keep its nuclear weapons by moving them out of Scotland

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in the event of independence, A study for

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the respected think tank, the Royal United Services Institute, says

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relocating Trident submarines and missiles to England is financially

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and technically feasible. In a moment we'll have

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a extended live interview with the chairman of Better Together,

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Alistair Darling, about that and But first here's our political

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correspondent, Glenn Campbell, on the implications for Trident

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if Scotland votes for independence. The UK's for nuclear armed

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submarines are based at Faslane naval base. The missiles and

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warheads are stored nearby. Today's report suggests it would be possible

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overtime to relocate the weapon system to England if there is a vote

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in favour of independence. You would have two build a new facility. That

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is where the problem lies. Experts say it would take longer to relocate

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their weapons to England than the fourth year timescale set out by the

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Scottish Government. They also questioned suggestions from UK

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ministers that the costs of relocation would be expensive.

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costs are not as high as people anticipated. The notion that the SNP

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are putting about that if you get rid of Trident that also gets rid of

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it across the UK has been demolished. We want to get rid of

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Trident within the first term of an independent Scottish Parliament. It

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has got to be done safely. It has to be done safely, but speed is also of

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the essence. Big UK Government insists it has no plans to move

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Trident out of Scotland, but in the faint of independence it may be

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required to do so. It was the intervention of the Bank

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of England that dominated First Minister's Questions. Alex Salmond

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told MSP is it was the prounion parties at Westminster who had

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caused financial uncertainty by ruling out a single currency. The

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United Kingdom and Westminster parties have a vested interest in

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causing as much uncertainty as they can. The 10th two generates

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instability will feel. -- this attempt to create instability will

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not succeed. The First Minister has two understand he is prospectus of

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independence without knowing what the currency is is creating

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uncertainty. Only the First Minister would blame those who point that out

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to him as being the cause of the uncertainty. I enjoyed by Alistair

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Darling. Why are you treating your share of economic uncertainty? Why

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are you refusing to contemplate currency union? Currency union with

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be bad for Scotland. It would be bad for the rest of the UK. They would

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have to underwrite the banking system of Scotland. But if you are

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talking about uncertainty surely you except they would be less

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uncertainty if you add the other parties said they did not like the

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idea of independence, but afterwards if they had to find the best

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solution, that's making it. This is not the best solution. The best

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solution for currency is what we have at the moment. A UK pounds,

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backed by the Bank of England, behind which stands the UK

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Government. That is what nationalists want to get rid of. The

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uncertainty that has been caused us because we do not know what Alex

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Salmond's other plan is. He has still not come up with an answer.

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This afternoon the Bank of England has an President of rebuke to John

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Swinney. He said yesterday that the Scottish Government are having

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discussions with the Bank of England. That is not true. We are

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being taught things that are not true. That is that is what is

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causing the uncertainty. The Bank of England does have contingency plans.

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The Bank of England said they had technical discussions. Now, they

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said they had had technical questions. John Swinney tried to

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spin that as technical discussions. It is unprecedented for the Bank of

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England to rebuke a partition in this way. The point I am trying to

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put to you about the Bank of England is that they have taken a middle

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line, a neutral line, between the two options. But what they have said

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is that there is a situation of financial instability drawing and

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they want to mitigate that by making clear that there are contingency

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plans. I am seeing that you and your colleagues could help that situation

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of financial uncertainty by making it clear that afterwards you would

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consider our financial can see union if it was end the best interests.

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The governor of the Bank of England said that what was causing

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uncertainty was the uncertainty of the referendum result. I know that

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the Bank of England has good contingency plans. But in relation

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to currency union, I could not summon who was Scottish, sign up to

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something that I think is bad for Scotland. It is clear to anybody who

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asks that here we are, two weeks before the first postal votes start

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going out, we simply don't know what currency we will have. That matters

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to people. When you get the Bank of England casting doubt on the

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veracity of what was said yesterday, when they said there were

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discussions, and they see there are no discussions taking place, that is

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when people do get jittery. Just to be clear they confirmed that

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technicalities were talked about. Now, just questions. As a former

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Chancellor, what would be the best currency option for an independent

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Scotland? Let us postulate a Yes vote. I think they are all rotten

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options. I would not join the euro. Democratically that is bad. Setting

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up your own currency in the present climate bash nobody would know what

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that's worth. It would be like Panama using the US dollar. It would

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be mad for the financial services sector. You have to run a financial

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surplus if you are doing that thing. One of the reasons that I

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passionately believe that Scotland will be better off and have more

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opportunities in the future is precisely because we would be part

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of the UK, we would be part of the UK currency, the Bank of England

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stands behind that, and the UK Government stands behind that. As a

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Scottish MP you have no view on what you would be urging a fair was a Yes

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vote? Let us just say that there was one in September. I passionately

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believe they are all second best options. The best option for

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Scotland as being part of the currency that we are part of at the

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moment. Why throw all that away? Here we are two weeks before the

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ballot papers go out and we simply do not know. There are other things

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that we simply do not know. We do not know what Scotland would look

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like in the event of a No vote either. All the prounion parties

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have offered more powers, but the offers are different. We do not know

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what we really getting into their either. I not agree. In terms of

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additional powers, there are already powers on the statute book that are

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coming over landfill tax and stamp jury. On top of that all three

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parties are arguing for a different degrees of further devolution in

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relation to tax and welfare. But we do not know what they are. It is

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dependent on who wins the next election. Yes, but they are pretty

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much on the same page. People said the same thing before 1997. Although

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the three parties were not in the same place at the start, they work

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together. Why do you find it so difficult to articulate and inspire

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people with a vision of the kind of Scotland you want to see if Scotland

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votes against independence? We can see why the Yes campaign wants a Yes

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vote. My vision of a better Scotland is where young people have the best

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opportunity to get on for themselves and their families. Where we have an

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elderly population with the security of the UK behind it in terms of

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paying pensions. We would not be so dependent as we would be in an

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independent Scotland on diminishing oil revenues. I believe that if we

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were to break away we would be less prosperous and we would have less

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opportunities. That is why I am passionately against independence.

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They have published a White Paper. Most of it depends on somebody else

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agreeing with absolutely everything else they want. Two weeks before

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ballot papers go out and we do not know answers to fundamental

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questions. Regarding Trident it has been said that if Scotland went

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independent it with either forced the UK to give up nuclear weapons,

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or it would be murderously expensive. Now we hear that moving

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Trident would be financially and technically feasible. It is just

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another skier story, isn't it? I have never argued you could not

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shift it. I have never argued that. The question is do you want to be

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spending people's tax money on moving at? I have never argued you

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could not shift it. They would be 8000 jobs at risk because all the

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submarine work with go with that. They see it may not be completed

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until 2028. That is a lifetime away. In the debate many people considered

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you were the winner. But there is criticism of both of you for not

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being forthright with your answers. Can we expect a more enlightening

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and more candid debate next time? I hope so. We are in the hands of the

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BBC and somebody will be vigorously refereeing the match. We are in the

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hands of yourself and Alex Salmond. I will always endeavour to do that.

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Time is running out. The ballot papers go out in two weeks time.

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That referendum debate will be shown live on BBC One Scotland at 8:30pm

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on the 25th of August. Last night's Reporting Scotland

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interview with the First Minister is online.

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You're watching Reporting Scotland from the BBC.

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Still to come on tonight's programme:

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Recognition at last for the Thurso detective who led the Jack

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the Ripper investigation in Victorian London.

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And one of the biggest names in golf pulls out of the Ryder Cup. And a

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Celtic player admits he is embarrassed about the European

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Champions League decision. The two bodies which oversee the

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police in Scotland are to conduct a joint inquiry into the controversial

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decision to allow officers with guns In the past armed officers were only

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deployed when necessary and the review has been prompted

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by a row over the change in policy. Top brass decided they should be

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allowed to carry weapons on regular patrols to ensure faster and more

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widely available response. But there has been a of criticism. We have to

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learn for the future about how issues affect individual

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communities. We need to build on the knowledge we gain from that to make

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sure communities better understand the police in the future, and that

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the police understand the impact of their decisions. Criticism of the

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new firearms policy began to surface in the Highlands which has one of

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the lowest crime rates in the country. And at a time when firearms

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offences are at a ten year low. The criticism was further fuelled by

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this picture showing three armed officers going to sort out a minor

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scuffle outside and Inverness shop. There is an opportunity for all the

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items that have been in the media and the council chambers to be eared

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and seriously considered. I hope at the end of the day it will lead to a

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resolution to this problem. This is the first test since the creation of

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Police Scotland as to where the dividing lines are between

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operational decisions and overall policy-making. The police themselves

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or their overseers bash who has the final say?

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The number of deaths in Scotland involving so-called legal highs more

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than doubled last year, according to new figures.

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There were 113 deaths in 2013 where new psychoactive

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substances were present, compared to 47 the year before.

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The overall number of drug-related deaths dropped by 9%.

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Councils should have more control over taxes and determine how

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That's according to an independent commission set up to look

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It says local authorities could have complete power to set the council

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The Commission was set up by the council umbrella body COSLA.

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A look at other stories from the across the country:

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A man who stabbed his wife to death at their home in

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Longforgan, near Dundee, three years ago is suing the health service.

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Neil Cumming is claiming that they failed to treat his mental illness

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properly before he killed his wife Jane and then deliberately

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He was found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.

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A national centre to improve responses to weather emergencies

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The facility at the Crichton University and Business campus

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Their roles will be part-co-ordination

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Having a national centre will ensure that the best possible techniques

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are used across Scotland. Police are urging local drivers to

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be patient with fellow motorists, especially tourists,

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after the latest accident figures There have been 175 incidents In

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the Lochaber, Skye and Lochalsh areas since the beginning of June,

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almost half in Lochaber alone. Be patient. Visitors are coming here

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to enjoy our hospitality and Sina D. -- and Susie.

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The Duke and Duchess of Rothesay have been attending the

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Ballater Highland games, which is celebrating its 150th anniversary.

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The royal couple, whose holiday home at Birkhall

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on the Balmoral estate is nearby, spent some time in the Chieftain's

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One of the biggest names in world of sport has pulled out

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Tiger Woods was expected by many to be in the United States team to face

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Europe next month but he's withdrawn because of a back injury.

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Former world number one four years ago, but this time around injury

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means there will be no place in team USA for Tiger Woods. This is the

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18th Green where much of the drama in the Ryder Cup is expected to

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unfold. But will be absence of Tiger Woods the track from this global

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golfing event? These two Ryder Cup vice captains

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said it would not affect the event. If he is not fair he is not fair. I

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have heard other players taking ten months from that injury. He probably

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came out to correlate. We are going to focus on our team. Preparations

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are well and truly underway for the big event in six weeks time. But

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will not be graced by Tiger Woods. UEFA have thrown out Legia Warsaw's

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appeal to be allowed back into the Champions league qualifiers

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at Celtic's expense. Celtic who lost to the Poles

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in a qualifying tie were re-instated because their opponents

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fielded a suspended player. Now Legia want the Court

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of Arbitration As it stands though Celtic will play

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Maribor in the final qualifying round, although one player admits

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a degree of embarrassment. What can you do? You have got to get

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on that. You cannot feel sorry for yourselves and be embarrassed about

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getting through. It is not the really wanted to get through, but we

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need is to get on that. Glasgow 2014 silver medal winners

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Eilidh Child and Lynsey Sharp are through to the finals

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of their events at the Europan Eilidh Child winning her semi

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final in the 400 metres hurdles. Lynsey Sharp also coming home first

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in the semis of the 800 metres. I am a different athletes than I was

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two years ago. I am hoping to build on that. I just try to enjoy every

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race. I am laughing coming out and racing.

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A largely unknown detective from Thurso, who ended up

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in charge of The Jack the Ripper investigation, has finally been

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recognised, after the full story emerged of his involvement

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Five women were mutilated by the so-called Ripper in

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London's East End in the late 19th century and Donald Swanson went

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Jackie O'Brien reports from Caithness.

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The grand starter of Donald Swanson returns to the streets he was

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brought up in. -- the grand daughter. When you are 20 world is

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your oyster. I suppose he thought they got on that Stagecoach he would

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get to London eventually. He joined the Metropolitan Police and was

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placed in overall charge of the Jack the Ripper investigation, dramatised

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here for the BBC. Through documents, including his address book, new

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light has been shed on how the detective also identified the main

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suspect. The main suspect went insane. He was placed in an asylum

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and that was probably the end of the murders. But the family of Donald

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Swanson knew little about his involvement until he died.

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This week Donald Swanson is finally being recognised. A memorial has

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been placed outside the police station.

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So now there is or has unlinked with one of the most notorious serial

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killers in the world. It was a story that almost remained untold.

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And here is what is on Scotland's 2014.

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We will be debating the future of socialism and Scotland with Tommy

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Sheridan and Owen Jones. They agree on so much except independence.

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And here is the weather. There has been a number of showers around in

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some parts of the country and more still to come. There is a yellow Met

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Office warning in place. Largely dry, fairly cloudy. Temperatures in

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towns and cities in double digits. Friday gets off to a reasonably dry

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start. Decent bright and sunny spells developing in the afternoon.

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By mid afternoon. Further North little bit cooler. One or two

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showers perhaps affecting the far North. The rest of the afternoon

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into the evening and overnight we will hold onto some brightness. Over

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the weekend the weekend there will. Saturday, the further South and East

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you are, generally try and bright start. Sunday and the low pressure

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is still with us. It will be windy wherever you are. It will feel

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colder because of the wind. Now,

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a reminder of tonight's main news. A group of defence experts says it

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would be possible for the UK to keep its nuclear deterrent if there was

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a Yes vote in the referendum. The Royal United Services Institute

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says removing Trident submarines from Scotland is financially

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and technically feasible.

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