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Campaigners against independence deny they're in

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Salmond says Better Together are in a state of "total disintegration".

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The saltire has been raised above Downing Street.

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Tomorrow, David Cameron, Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg are making

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In a live interview, I'll ask Alistair Darling why support for

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We find out what rural communities think of the campaign.

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We'll have the latest on the referendum campaign

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And also tonight, after defeat in Medinah, the US Team

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say they aim to get even and reclaim the famous trophy as Gleneagles

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David Cameron and Ed Miliband are to miss their weekly clash at

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Prime Minister's Questions to travel to Scotland tomorrow to campaign

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for a no vote in the independence referendum.

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They'll be joined by the Deputy Prime minister Nick Clegg

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as the leaders of the three main UK parties pledge to do all they can to

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The announcement came as Alex Salmond said the

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Better Together campaign was in a state of "total disintegration".

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Here's our political editor Brian Taylor.

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Symbols matter. So today the sole tyre was raised over Downing

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Street... Only to fall down. As number ten told Scotland to stay

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under the union fight. I want to do everything I can to put

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arguments in front of the people. I want Scotland to know that the rest

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of the United Kingdom wants them to stay.

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Also Scotland bound, Ed Miliband. Today he was in Liverpool. Nick

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Clegg will complete the trio. Panic? Perish the thought save the Unionist

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leaders in Scotland. All offering a timetable for more powers which they

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claim will definitely protect the NHS. They say that their endeavour

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means more cloud for the Scottish Government who ever wins the next UK

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election. We have had enough of our commitment

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to being rubbished by the SNP. They cannot answer simple questions and

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the risk to peoples jobs. The point is that whatever happens I will

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fight with every fibre of my being to ensure that what happens will be

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more powers for the Scottish parliament.

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Alex Salmond says that however you spell it out, yes is the better

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option, much more to Scotland's taste. On the NHS he says that Scott

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needs full financial control -- Scotland. He says that the Unionists

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are driven by desperation. This is a repackaging of what they

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said in the spring. People have passed the verdict on that, it is

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inadequate, not enough. It does not approach what Scotland needs to

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create jobs, protect the health service, told a better society. It

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is the day that the No campaign fell apart at the seams.

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So, what difference does a timetable for more devolution make to the

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Here's our political correspondent, Glenn Campbell.

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24 hours ago it was Gordon Brown's timetable. Now all the Unionist

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parties call their own. They say that if we vote now they will start

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work on more devolution. With a progress report by October. Broad

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agreement and a White Paper by the end of November and draft

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legislation towards the end of January. This former top civil

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servant says is a tight timetable. It is a demanding timetable which

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takes until the end of January to give the timetable to produce extra

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powers. That is hard work and challenging but it is deliverable.

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Everybody who has waited for a boss knows that timetables are subject to

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change but the prounion parties say they are determined to reach

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agreement on exactly what powers they will deliver to the Scottish

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parliament in order to make sure that the new schedule does not slip.

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The Scottish trades union Congress thinks that the Unionist parties are

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already playing catch up. For this to happen in the last few

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days of the campaign in reaction to polls devalues the process and the

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proposals being made. This think tank boss helped produce

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a detailed plan for further devolution she tried to persuade the

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Unionist parties to unite behind before the vote. -- which he.

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There has been an arrogance, saying, we will win this anyway, we don't

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promise you anything, we will just be very negative, and then once we

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have one, we are in charge, we decide what we give. They have

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suddenly had a wake-up call. They could lose this. Now they realise

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that it was a mistake not to set out a comprehensive set of powers

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beforehand. Laura McConnell says that the new

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timetable may not be enough to event a Yes vote. Lord. The Labour First

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Minister of Wales also want a redesign of the UK.

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We need to make the method and structure the same in Scotland,

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Wales, and Northern Ireland. The Unionist parties have different

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ideas about where we might end up. On income tax for instance, would we

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have the full devolution proposed by the Conservatives and the Liberal

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Democrats or opt to 15p on the basic rate as proposed by Labour, with the

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power to raise the upper rate? Or might you end up with a compromise

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in between? That is why the Yes campaign argue

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that only a vote for independence guarantees the transfer of power

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from Westminster to Holyrood. Well I'm joined now from

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Downing Street by our Westminster An unprecedented move by the three

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UK political leaders David, A growing sense that politics as

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normal has been suspended because the Scottish question is seen as so

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important. Normally Prime Minister's Question Time is the

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highlight of the Westminster week, yesterday we were assured that David

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Cameron would not visit Scotland this week, then there were talks

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between David Cameron and Ed Miliband and it was decided that

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they and Nick Clegg should travel to Scotland to campaign. They will have

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a core message, we want you to stay. There is a change in tactics, it is

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becoming more emotional, less economic and technocratic. They are

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trying to push emotional buttons. Claiming that they recognise there

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will be change but that a No vote is not a vote for no change. It is

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interesting that the Scottish flag is about Downing Street tonight. The

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SNP say they like to see it fly, as far as the UK parties are concerned,

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the No campaign is in utter panic and the meltdown.

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Edinburgh - what will be the impact here of this campaigning trio?

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It is intriguing to speculate as to the impact. That is down to the

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voters. But think of the motivation. Politicians blithely usher us they

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pay little attention to opinion polls, -- is -- assure us. David was

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talking about the emotional pitch. There was some stuff about the head

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as well. They are stressing the risks they believe will because I

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independence. And also an offer, to give more powers to the Scottish

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Parliament, particularly in tax. They are recalibrating, and talking

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up the impact of the offer. They are not stressing, or setting out the

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details of any new powers. But they are trying to say that it is

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guaranteed because there is a timetable. Does that mean that

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claims of risk have gone? They have not. They will return. But for now

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they feel that the situation sufficiently grave for their

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campaign that they must accentuate the positive.

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We heard Alex Salmond claimed that they are falling apart at the seams.

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Are they in real trouble? From the polls, it would seem that

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they are losing or have lost the ground they had. They had Dave early

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substantial lead. -- a fairly substantial. It has evaporated

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entirely to the point but a recent poll suggests they are neck and

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neck. Boy, will this be some campaign for the final week.

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Well I'm joined now by the leader of Better Together Alistair Darling.

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You were last on the programme a couple of weeks ago perceived as

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having won the first head to head the debate. You were ahead in the

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polls. Now your campaign is accused of falling apart at the seams. What

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went wrong? Alex Salmond would say that,

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wouldn't he? I have always said the polls would narrow as we got towards

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the date. This is the biggest decision many of us will take, about

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our children and generations to come. What is important, certainly

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today, is the fact that we can offer a different vision to separation and

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raking up, one where you have a strong Scottish parliament with more

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powers, and a specific timetable, when we will have agreed

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legislation, ready to go when the statute book, meaning greater

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control over Scotland's financial affairs. It would be able to decide

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how much it spent on the health service. It does not matter what is

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happening elsewhere in the United Kingdom. We would have control.

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These are proposals that have still to be agreed.

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But you have a commitment from three parties in broadly the same

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position. Otherwise we have years of wrangling and not knowing what is

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going on. Look at what is happening with the turmoil in the markets

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because of uncertainty. We can offer the certainty of change within the

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United Kingdom where you have that security, the opportunities that

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come from that, and you avoid uncertainty and wrangling, which

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will be damaging to job prospects. Let's assume you do all come

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together and agree. Let's call them devolution max. That is something to

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which the coalition and the Better Together group, to which you have

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belonged all along, ruled out. Now you are suggesting that instead of

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voting yes, you offer devolution max!

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I said we could have the best of both worlds within the United

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Kingdom and the strength and the opportunities being in something

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bigger. But the first question is are we staying or going? If we go a

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whole different ball game arises. If we stay then we have always said

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that what we want is to strengthen the Scottish Parliament. A Labour

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government legislated to set it up and extended to those powers, we

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want to go further. What you will have in a few months time as

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legislation giving the Scottish Parliament more powers, over health,

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which has been an issue for the last few weeks, and nobody can tell us

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what to do with health, totally within our control. That is what

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most federal governments in Western Europe...

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Is it not a mark of the disarray you are in that today, Nicola Sturgeon

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of the Yes campaign is talking to voters about poverty, and you are

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talking about processes. There is a sense of panic and you must surely

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accept that. She cut college places from people

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in poor backgrounds. This SNP government has taken ?1 million out

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of poverty programmes. We are talking about substantial change.

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Change of substance. Most people in Scotland want the jobs that come

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from being part of the UK. We have been talking about the things that

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matter to voters. And we're also talking the risks. We answered the

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questions people ask us. They still can't tell us how to provide when

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relying on volatile oil. Why do you think the markets are jittery? They

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don't understand anything that is going on here.

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Why was this announcement only made yesterday by Gordon Brown, and not

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you? This is a man with whom you have had, let's just say, a

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challenging relationship, and perceived as one of the most

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unpopular prime ministers the UK has ever had. And who has not played a

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role in domestic politics for some time. Again, it points back to a

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sense of disarray, desperation, let's call on whoever we can, with

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whatever we can. Gordon has been making speeches for

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over a year now. Arguing a powerful case for something he was writing

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about 30 years ago when other people thought, it doesn't really matter.

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He is formidable and I know that having worked with him for many

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years. But the answer to your question is that ever since the

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party published its proposals people ask me, how can you be sure they

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will be delivered? We can now show the process. It will start in just

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over ten days and by next January result in legislation on the statute

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book. Is it not better to have a Scottish parliament with control

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over taxation and welfare so it can repeal the bedroom tax, in the

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months? Because it will take years to this and tangle the UK. --

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disentangle. What do you think will happen to jobs? We have seen the

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damage done to the economy by the fall in share price, the fall in the

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pound. We need to avoid risks. We need to jobs that matter to the

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future of Scotland. If it is that vital, it must be

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pretty uncomfortable for you that one of the weakest tasks Better

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Together faces is to win back a swathe of Labour voters. -- bigger

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tasks. It is my job to win over as many as

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possible. I am confident we will win. In all my experience I believe

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we will win. But I have always said that in an issue like this where

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people are genuinely agonising... I spoke to someone who switch from no

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to yes and back to now again, they are genuinely agonising. What we

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decide when we go into the polling station, when we mark our cross on

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the ballot paper, it is for our children and the generations to

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come. You cannot just click the government in the teeth. -- kick. We

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will also get the advantages and the security of being part of something

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bigger. But this is not where you wanted to

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be at this stage or were you thought you would be.

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I said when somebody asked me, take the polls with a pinch of salt. I

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always thought it would get closer. I am confident we will win. We can

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show Scotland we have a better vision of what Scotland can be, we

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can do it faster, and in a more secure way.

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Tomorrow, the First Minister will be here to talk to us about his hopes

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for a Yes vote on September the 18th.

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Well let's go now to our Referendum Correspondent who's with

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a group of undecided voters in a pub in Cupar in Fife.

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These are undecided voters who were just listening. What did you think?

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I like the idea of what Alex Salmond is saying. But I would rather have

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a, this is definitely going to happen. I could not really hear what

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he was saying very well. But I think that definitely needs to be more

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facts involved. They have said, look, there is a

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timetable. Because now they know what people

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want. But there needs to be definites. I don't like this, we

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might do this, might do that. What goes through your mind and

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trying to make a decision? I dry not to think of the

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politicians involved. I like to think that I will just do it on the

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day and just... What about yourself?

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I am just worried about my job with the NHS at the end of the day. Is it

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just scaremongering? On both sides?

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It is up for grabs. Is that the first thing on your mind

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when you go to the polling station on September 18?

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And my pension. We have to live longer for them.

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You sound like you're leaning towards a No vote.

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Could be, but there is all sorts as well.

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But you lean towards a yes? Slightly. I wish that Gordon Brown

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and Alistair Darling changed tactics. Rather than all of these

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skill stories about pensions, jobs, etc. -- scare stories. You need to

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think of future generations. Should they be ruled by someone from

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Buckingham Shire of Oxford Shire? You need to bring your own

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parliament to your own country. You have all still got to make up

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your mind, certainly when it comes to the polls...

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It will be last-minute. Yes, a last-minute decision. We will be

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back here to tell you more about what has happened on the campaign

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trail here. The hotly contested issue

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of currency returned today with the Governor of the Bank of

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England Mark Carney telling the TUC conference that a currency union

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would be incompatible with I'm joined by the BBC's

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economics editor Robert Peston. Robert, the governor has hinted

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at this before, how significant is Certainly so close to the vote it is

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significant. But it is a slightly odd thing he said. He did not save

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the independence of Scotland, he said, sovereignty. He said currency

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union is incompatible with sovereignty. Some would say that if

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you look at, for example, the Eurozone, Germany still remains a

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sovereign nation even though it is in a currency union. What the

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governor is hinting at is that in order for a currency union to work a

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nation has to give up an enormous amount sovereignty, for example it

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absolute control over budget making, taxing, spending, borrowing. So what

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he is hinting at, is that if Scotland were to go independent and

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enter into a currency union with the rest of the UK, Westminster would

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and that Scotland give up so much of its ability that it would not

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properly be independent, but even saying that in a curious sort of way

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is a bit order for the bank of England because the parties have

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said, it is not a runner. We will not the man that Scotland gives up

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powers, because we don't want the union. So it was an awed

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intervention. But when you get rid of all the oddity, it does appear to

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be, in a rather complicated manner, the governor lining up alongside the

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Unionist leaders. Thank you very much.

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The share prices of some Scottish based companies which fell

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in trading yesterday have shown signs of recovery.

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Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking group both made gains

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after seeing their value slip after opinion polls suggested

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a surge in the yes vote in the referendum campaign.

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Elsewhere on the campaign trail today, attention has been centred

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on what independence might do for some of the most disenfranchised

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The deputy first minister was in one of Labour's heartlands -

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trying to persuade voters that independence would help to reduce

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Our political correspondent Tim Reid has been finding out.

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It has been the focus of many a campaign over the decades.

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Easterhouse on the outskirts of Glasgow. Long classed as an area of

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deprivation though it has seen some investment in recent years. Today, a

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warmer welcome to the area from anti-poverty campaigner, Bob

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Hallman, a lifelong Labour member, he will vote yes mixed those day

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because he believes that independence is the only way to

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improve the social problems here. Things will get worse here for the

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poor. In my view this can only be changed when we have a government

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independent of the wealthy House of Commons, where MPs are just about to

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get another large pay rise. Over a decade ago and Bob met

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another senior politician on a visit here. Iain Duncan Smith was then the

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Conservative leader and is now Work and Pensions Secretary.

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How do you like it? Rubbish. It is a shambles.

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That local resident has since been rehoused. Visiting today, a

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politician be very different issue. How persuasive when the items? --

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argument? I am scared that we will fall on our

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faces and look back to England again and they will knock us back.

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Are you undecided? Me and my wife are voting no.

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But those who advocate independence insist that Westminster has failed

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poor families hit by reforms. We take power and resources into our

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own hands so we can tackle the problem of poverty. We will not be

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eradicated overnight, this is not a panacea, but it equips us with the

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powers needed to make a difference. It is traditional Labour territories

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like this one where the voters are but campaigns need to attract.

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Polling evidence is suggesting that Labour voters are swinging to the

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Yes campaign, but people who have never voted at all could also prove

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crucial. Do you know how you will vote?

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Even if I did, I would not tell you! The No campaign claim that tackling

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poverty needs perseverance, not independence. A tricky issue no

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matter what ever the vote next week. Still to come in this extended

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edition of the programme: What both sides have two say about plans for

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childcare. And we return to Fife to find out what impact the campaign

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has had on rural communities. Police are hunting two men who raped

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a 32-year-old woman The woman had travelled to the area

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from Glasgow city centre on Sunday Two of them attacked her

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on the canal path, The victim went to a nearby shop

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and police were called. She suffered minor injuries

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but declined medical help. Rangers have been granted leave to

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appeal against having more than ?620,000

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of their assets frozen. The club's former commercial

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director, Imran Ahmad, is claiming half a million pounds

:29:46.:29:47.

for an unpaid bonus and ?120,000 legal costs in a case due to be

:29:48.:29:50.

heard at A cyclist killed in a crash

:29:51.:29:54.

in Aberdeen has been named as 32-year-old man whose three children

:29:55.:30:04.

included seven-week-old twins. Keen sportsman Neil Jaffrey died

:30:05.:30:06.

after a collision with a car on North Anderson Drive,

:30:07.:30:09.

close to the junction with His is survived by his wife Dawn,

:30:10.:30:11.

daughter Jessica, two, "He was much loved by us all and

:30:12.:30:18.

will be greatly missed." Highland Council has thrown out

:30:19.:30:23.

controversial plans for a 14 turbine windfarm

:30:24.:30:26.

in a scenic part of Ross-shire. Local authority officials say

:30:27.:30:28.

the Carn Gorm windfarm would have had a detrimental visual impact

:30:29.:30:31.

on the iconic mountain Ben Wyvis. The John Muir Trust said that they

:30:32.:30:35.

hoped it would send a clear message to wind farm developers to

:30:36.:30:38.

stay away from areas of wild land. A man's appeared in court

:30:39.:30:43.

following a theft valued at about ?20,000 from a jewellery shop

:30:44.:30:46.

in Aberdeen last month. Daniel Koterbski, who's 35,

:30:47.:30:48.

appeared at Aberdeen Sheriff Court charged with theft

:30:49.:30:51.

after the incident at the Northern Diamond store on Union Street

:30:52.:30:54.

on Tuesday the fifth of August. He made no plea or declaration,

:30:55.:30:57.

was committed for further Let's get tonight's sports news

:30:58.:30:59.

from Rhona. The US Ryder Cup Team Captain Tom

:31:00.:31:10.

Watson has said his "gut was hollow" after the Americans

:31:11.:31:13.

lost in Medinah 2 years ago. Watson and his men will begin their

:31:14.:31:17.

campaign to 'get even' and reclaim the famous trophy at Gleneagles

:31:18.:31:20.

in just over a fortnight. It Is the second time as Captain

:31:21.:31:24.

for Watson. He won the event with the Americans

:31:25.:31:26.

in 1993, beating the Europeans Do Is a. One defeated captain and

:31:27.:31:52.

one victorious. Reunited 21 years later. We were down and finally

:31:53.:32:03.

became back. It was looking great for the European time and lazy for

:32:04.:32:08.

hours in the singles matches. We started coming back and it was

:32:09.:32:14.

interesting. This will be the second time at the helm for Tom Watson. He

:32:15.:32:18.

has waited a long time for the honour. When I got the call couple

:32:19.:32:23.

of years ago, I said I have been waiting for this call for 20 years.

:32:24.:32:30.

I wanted to be captain again. I did not promote myself but I have been

:32:31.:32:33.

waiting for this for 20 years, thank you. As he looks ahead to the event,

:32:34.:32:43.

he is keen to avoid the defeat at Medinah two years ago. I had an

:32:44.:32:48.

empty feeling for a few days. I really don't. I have never had that

:32:49.:32:54.

empty feeling playing for myself. My gut was hollow. The American team

:32:55.:32:59.

had to get back contract. The loss should stick in their crawl. All

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those members to play in the team this year, they need to take care of

:33:05.:33:14.

business. They had to go out there and try and take care of business

:33:15.:33:19.

and basically get even. The Europeans have been warned. The

:33:20.:33:23.

battle begins on Friday 26th of September.

:33:24.:33:28.

Jim McIntyre has been confirmed as the new manager of Ross County

:33:29.:33:31.

after resigning from his post at Championship side Queen

:33:32.:33:33.

McIntyre began his managerial career at Dunfermline

:33:34.:33:37.

He inherits County at the bottom of the Premiership table after

:33:38.:33:40.

He is a young manager that wants to get involved in the game as a higher

:33:41.:33:57.

level. Good luck to him, I hope he does well. I think it could be a

:33:58.:34:02.

positive change for the club. Hopefully he proves good direction.

:34:03.:34:09.

And you get good results. Excellent, I think that is really good. The

:34:10.:34:11.

team needs stability and average them all the best as I do for him.

:34:12.:34:15.

It is always disappointing to lose your manager but, that is something

:34:16.:34:22.

about Jane MacIntyre, I was never convinced about him. I wish all the

:34:23.:34:27.

best. I just will be does not steal the players. -- I just will.

:34:28.:34:34.

The draw has been made for the semi finals of the Petrofac League Cup.

:34:35.:34:37.

Battling it out for a place it in the final,

:34:38.:34:40.

Livingston will be at home to Stranraer.

:34:41.:34:41.

And in the other semi-final, Alloa Athletic will meet the winners

:34:42.:34:44.

The Alloa manager considers which side he

:34:45.:34:53.

As a manager you want to get into the final. I ensure the fans would

:34:54.:35:07.

like Rangers to come and play. -- I am sure.

:35:08.:35:09.

Andy Murray is set to drop OUT of the world's top 10

:35:10.:35:12.

The Scot will be overtaken in rankings next Monday by Marin

:35:13.:35:16.

Cilic, the Croatian who won the US Open in straight sets yesterday.

:35:17.:35:19.

Murray and his coach Amelie Mauresmo are now working towards a run to

:35:20.:35:22.

the final of either the Shanghai or Paris Masters to

:35:23.:35:25.

stand a chance of qualifying for the season-ending World Tour Finals.

:35:26.:35:31.

Another lovely day for much of the country, is it going to continue,

:35:32.:35:37.

Christopher? Another lovely day. Some sunshine

:35:38.:35:49.

and cloud. 19 degrees in the Central Belt. Staying dry and settled this

:35:50.:35:57.

evening. Perhaps the cloud is thick enough for one or two light spots of

:35:58.:36:01.

rain towards Shetland and the Western Isles but the bulk of the

:36:02.:36:05.

country will be dry. Clear skies and the countryside. One or two missed

:36:06.:36:12.

and four patches in the Glens. Tomorrow high pressure continues.

:36:13.:36:20.

The difference is as light southerly drift, from down south, bringing up

:36:21.:36:26.

mild a. That will increase the amount of sunshine and increase the

:36:27.:36:31.

temperature as well. As a sunny day across the. Towards the afternoon,

:36:32.:36:37.

temperatures will be around 19 or 20 degrees. Quite pleasant with light

:36:38.:36:46.

winds. Colder at the coast. After a cloudy start, it should improve in

:36:47.:36:51.

the north-west as well. The cloud will be more stubborn over the

:36:52.:36:54.

Northern Isles but it should be reasonably polite -- writes. Into

:36:55.:37:01.

the evening and overnight, the cloud will melt away. It will be a chilly

:37:02.:37:07.

night. With more moisture in the year, perhaps more mist and fog as

:37:08.:37:12.

well. I pressure continues to hold onto a giant set of day on Thursday.

:37:13.:37:18.

Colder again and then as an fog taking longer to clear. Sunshine

:37:19.:37:26.

returns in the afternoon. 21 degrees as possible. On Friday, the Windsor

:37:27.:37:30.

from the south-east. Best of the sunshine on the West Coast. More

:37:31.:37:38.

cloud in the East. Temperatures around 20 degrees. Staying settled

:37:39.:37:41.

throughout the week. That is the forecast.

:37:42.:37:46.

Let's return to events surrounding the referendum.

:37:47.:37:48.

The debate may be raging but the issues remain,

:37:49.:37:52.

and one of the key areas of in the battle for your vote is childcare.

:37:53.:37:56.

The Scottish Government has pledged to radically extend free childcare

:37:57.:37:58.

but says it can only do so under independence when IT benefits

:37:59.:38:01.

from the extra income tax raised from more women going out to work.

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But the Better Together campaign says it's a "con".

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Our political correspondent Lucy Adams examines the arguments.

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It has cut become a key issue in the referendum, with both sides vying

:38:11.:38:21.

for the female vote. Both offer a key issue in the referendum, with

:38:22.:38:23.

both sides vying for the female vote. Both offer happy to know that

:38:24.:38:33.

effective childcare for many of our children, where it is great

:38:34.:38:38.

quality, it really improves the learning opportunities for those

:38:39.:38:43.

children. Equally, our economy is being held back by the number of

:38:44.:38:48.

people who can work, you're skilled and want to work and cannot fulfil

:38:49.:38:54.

their potential because of childcare arrangements. Parents in the UK on

:38:55.:38:59.

average currently spend more than a quarter of their income on

:39:00.:39:02.

childcare. More than many of our neighbours in Europe but will that

:39:03.:39:07.

change with independence? The Scottish Government has increased

:39:08.:39:11.

childcare provision but in the white -- in the White Paper promised to

:39:12.:39:16.

extend it further, offering 30 hours a week in term time until children

:39:17.:39:23.

reach primary school. Labour has promised to extend it to 25 hours a

:39:24.:39:28.

week. The Conservatives are offering a childcare subsidy of ?2000 per

:39:29.:39:34.

child. The twister material is that Scotland already has control of

:39:35.:39:41.

childcare. -- twist in the table. Critics say a key question is how an

:39:42.:39:46.

independent Scotland could afford to pay for the promises of the Yes

:39:47.:39:50.

Campaign. What do parents think of the story so far? If you have the

:39:51.:39:54.

money to do it, why not offer it now? Personally, I do not think it

:39:55.:40:01.

is going to happen and I do not think they can guarantee it. I think

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it is empty promises the SNP are giving us on everything, not just

:40:07.:40:10.

childcare and I would take a chance on it. Howard -- are childcare bill

:40:11.:40:17.

is twice the cost of our mortgage. If we get the chance, we should make

:40:18.:40:21.

our own policies and take the opportunity. We cannot even begin to

:40:22.:40:27.

get a feel grasp on it, that is so much going on. Experts say the

:40:28.:40:33.

referendum has at least pointed agencies in the right direction.

:40:34.:40:37.

Childcare is to spend for the vast majority of families. That is not

:40:38.:40:42.

enough suitable childcare close to where they live or work. Also, child

:40:43.:40:48.

care is often not flexible and cannot be fitted around their

:40:49.:40:53.

working lives. We have to change that. Politicians have been aware of

:40:54.:40:57.

the problems and the referendum has given this a new dynamism to the

:40:58.:41:03.

discussion. We cannot know yet how this story will end. It will depend

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in many ways on how parents vote. Let us return to their pub in Fife.

:41:17.:41:29.

I do not even have a drink in my hand yet. Most people I have been

:41:30.:41:36.

speaking to today in Fife agree that they want change in Scotland. They

:41:37.:41:40.

disagree on who should hold that power and we're that power should

:41:41.:41:45.

live. When it comes to the referendum, it is a battle lines

:41:46.:41:51.

drawn. I went to a cafe and mentioned the word referendum and

:41:52.:41:54.

added beat carried on. This is what happens. In the divided fields of

:41:55.:42:01.

Fife, the talk is of power and with it should live. This farmer is in no

:42:02.:42:07.

doubt. As he leaves his new recruit behind and heads off to check on his

:42:08.:42:13.

sheep. He believes Scottish farmers have been short-changed by

:42:14.:42:20.

Westminster. As a farmer, I fear the Scottish Government has always been

:42:21.:42:23.

more willing to listen to the farmers of this country than the

:42:24.:42:27.

Westminster Government, especially in our relations with Europe. We

:42:28.:42:31.

would have a much stronger voice in Europe as the Scottish Government

:42:32.:42:35.

was at the table in Europe and we would be more able to put our case

:42:36.:42:42.

in the European Union. These junk children play, blissfully unaware of

:42:43.:42:46.

the political argument engulfing the country. Inside a group of no voters

:42:47.:42:52.

say there are signs have been vandalised. We had two big signs up

:42:53.:42:58.

outside the town. One has been stolen altogether and the other was

:42:59.:43:04.

vandalised. The novel was painted out and a big yes was painted. I

:43:05.:43:10.

have repainted it with an novel again. We will see a lot of laughs

:43:11.:43:15.

this time. Others in the get involved. This is not about

:43:16.:43:25.

economics... Ignored his study. Ignore his study. -- yesterday.

:43:26.:43:35.

A Conservative MP outlines how agonising this is being for those

:43:36.:43:44.

who have not made up their minds. He hopes the promise of new powers for

:43:45.:43:48.

Holyrood will lure these waters towards the North. People who

:43:49.:43:56.

thought they might vote yes are interested in the proposition begin

:43:57.:44:00.

another stronger Scottish Parliament, and not lose that link

:44:01.:44:04.

with the rest of the UK. Some here say they have heard those promises

:44:05.:44:08.

before and real power only lies with independence. Although they admit

:44:09.:44:22.

they are finding one group of people difficult to convince. Voters over

:44:23.:44:27.

70 hour that offers to come thence to say yes. There was a bit of

:44:28.:44:35.

conservatism, with a small C. People recognise it is time for change.

:44:36.:44:40.

Each day conversations in Scotland seem more impassioned and the

:44:41.:44:44.

arguing more intense. Where should the power line? Only the vote on

:44:45.:44:52.

September 18 will answer that. I am joined by two people who know this

:44:53.:45:01.

area very well. This is the third largest constituency, isn't it? Jack

:45:02.:45:06.

Daniels, imagine meeting you in a pub! How the Tube in finding the

:45:07.:45:14.

campaign on the doorsteps? I have been on hundreds of doorsteps. --

:45:15.:45:21.

how have you been finding. The two issues are at families who are

:45:22.:45:25.

concerned about the break-up of the family, the break-up of the United

:45:26.:45:31.

Kingdom, the family of nations. The family that fought in war and done

:45:32.:45:37.

things together. On a more personal level, the concern about if there

:45:38.:45:46.

will be the smallest hassle of visiting grandchildren in Bristol or

:45:47.:45:53.

anywhere else. Is it getting more impassioned? It is inevitable. Only

:45:54.:46:00.

of places like Quebec, it will get more impassioned. The second issue

:46:01.:46:08.

is very much young people. I have worked with young people all my

:46:09.:46:12.

life. We have taught young people to be adventurous and international, to

:46:13.:46:20.

look outwards. Everything about this whole nationalist, said it thing is

:46:21.:46:26.

to make people look in words, smaller and argue about his study.

:46:27.:46:33.

Blame somebody else. That is not what young people should be talking

:46:34.:46:37.

What is your experience? I have to young children who are thirsty for

:46:38.:46:55.

knowledge and thirsty to talk about it. It is amazing to watch people,

:46:56.:47:02.

not just them but their friends who want to talk about issues which

:47:03.:47:07.

affect them. University fees, can get a job. Both of my children are

:47:08.:47:14.

in employment, my daughter has just returned on an adventure in

:47:15.:47:19.

Australia. This will not change if we are independent, she can still go

:47:20.:47:25.

to Australia or England. The issues that come across on the doorstep

:47:26.:47:29.

just now seem to be what ever the media has portrayed that week.

:47:30.:47:35.

People talk about what was in the paper that week. I have been

:47:36.:47:39.

campaigning for over two years now on the doorstep. When there was

:47:40.:47:44.

something about pensions, that was what people would talk about or

:47:45.:47:50.

Europe, it depends entirely what the national mood is that week. It is

:47:51.:47:58.

good, it gives people something to talk about. They can focus for

:47:59.:48:04.

discussion so you have a different every time. Different points can be

:48:05.:48:08.

raised by both sides and people can make their minds up. What is

:48:09.:48:13.

fantastic about the referendum is that people can get together

:48:14.:48:18.

everywhere and have meetings. It is fantastic we get back to having

:48:19.:48:24.

meetings. It is very good to being back in public meetings where you

:48:25.:48:28.

get shown to town. There was a hundred people in a public meeting

:48:29.:48:35.

in a local hotel. When did that last happened? When were people in series

:48:36.:48:40.

to talk about what they wanted for Scotland? I know you too could talk

:48:41.:48:45.

about this all night. I know you will both remain friends. I very

:48:46.:48:53.

much hope so. Unfortunately, there are not some good signs but I really

:48:54.:49:00.

do all. When people talk about who stupidity of Westminster and the

:49:01.:49:04.

playing fields of Eton, this is going on. Thank you very much. As

:49:05.:49:13.

you can see, passionate views. Fife is going to be a difficult one to

:49:14.:49:18.

call on the night. Thank you very much. We will see you

:49:19.:49:20.

in Dundee tomorrow. One of the big issues

:49:21.:49:25.

in the referendum debate is what will happen to the armed forces

:49:26.:49:27.

if Scotland votes yes next week. The United Kingdom currently spends

:49:28.:49:30.

?34 billion each year on defence including the Trident

:49:31.:49:32.

nuclear deterrent. The Scottish government wants to

:49:33.:49:34.

remove Trident and drastically reduce defence spending while

:49:35.:49:36.

building up conventional forces. Our reporter Cameron Buttle has been

:49:37.:49:38.

looking at both sides This is the rather forbidding

:49:39.:49:52.

engines to Scotland's secret bunker. I am heading underground. This is

:49:53.:49:56.

Scotland would have been run in the event of a war. Both as part of the

:49:57.:50:04.

United Kingdom and as part of NATO. The United Kingdom was a vital part

:50:05.:50:08.

of the front line of the Cold War. It is still seen as a major player

:50:09.:50:13.

on the world stage, punching above its weight and influencing

:50:14.:50:18.

international events. All of that comes at a price. The UK defence

:50:19.:50:23.

budget is one of the largest in the world, ?34 billion a year. That

:50:24.:50:30.

covers 148,000 personnel across Army, navy and air force. The

:50:31.:50:40.

Scottish Government wants to get rid of Trident, take what it believes is

:50:41.:50:46.

Scotland's Shearer of the conventional armed forces and create

:50:47.:50:50.

the Scottish defence Force. What would that look like? -- Scotland's

:50:51.:50:56.

Shearer. It said it would have a budget of 2.5 billion pounds. It

:50:57.:51:05.

would have a land force of 3500 troops and 1200 reservists. It would

:51:06.:51:13.

also include an aviation unit of six helicopters. The maritime forces

:51:14.:51:20.

would include two frigates, for mine countermeasure vessels and two

:51:21.:51:23.

offshore vessels. It would also have other support ships and would need

:51:24.:51:30.

2000 personnel and 200 reservists. The air force would have a quick

:51:31.:51:35.

reaction alert squadron of 12 Typhoon jets. It would also have

:51:36.:51:46.

George Clarke it should be an extension of what your foreign

:51:47.:51:49.

policy requirements are. Looking after our coastline. Looking after

:51:50.:51:56.

our North Sea oil installations. These are very important to Scotland

:51:57.:52:01.

and also to play our part in international affairs and work with

:52:02.:52:06.

our NATO partners. UK forces currently train with other

:52:07.:52:10.

international forces and that continue with the Scottish League so

:52:11.:52:15.

is. The strength of being together with the UK forces is a strong bonus

:52:16.:52:21.

of course it is. That is the opportunity of all the defence jobs

:52:22.:52:24.

in Scotland, whether it is shipbuilding in the Clyde or it is

:52:25.:52:30.

issues about high-tech engineering. All across Scotland there are

:52:31.:52:33.

thousands of jobs which rely on the Ministry of Defence. Both sides

:52:34.:52:40.

dispute the effect independence would have won the defence

:52:41.:52:43.

industry. The no campaign say would bring an end to shipbuilding in

:52:44.:52:47.

Scotland. Thousands of jobs would go of Trident was moved. Yes Campaign

:52:48.:52:53.

says contracts would still be one because of the Scottish expertise in

:52:54.:53:00.

shipbuilding. Basing the Scottish Defence League at Faslane would

:53:01.:53:06.

safeguard jobs. The secret bunker is now a tourist attraction. A chilling

:53:07.:53:11.

insight into the role of Scotland and the Cold War. The referendum

:53:12.:53:16.

offers two options, staying with United Kingdom defence forces, with

:53:17.:53:21.

that established global influence as a nuclear power or develop a new

:53:22.:53:26.

Scottish Defence League is at a fraction of the corset,

:53:27.:53:30.

purpose-built for Scotland. If a nuclear bomb had ever been dropped,

:53:31.:53:36.

this is where the Secretary of State for Scotland mate as that. The

:53:37.:53:41.

decision is up to you if someone will sit somewhere like this and

:53:42.:53:53.

what they can do. Let us return to our political editor Brian Taylor in

:53:54.:53:58.

Edinburgh. How have events move the debate own? -- debate own? The

:53:59.:54:08.

opportunity for voters is of course on Thursday, September 18. His final

:54:09.:54:13.

appeals to the heart and head, anything you like. The picture

:54:14.:54:21.

tomorrow will be one attempt at unit -- unity, you have all the

:54:22.:54:26.

Westminster parties saying they are united in arguing that Scotland

:54:27.:54:37.

should stay in the UK. Alex Salmond will be campaigning here with

:54:38.:54:41.

prominent yes activists, including Jim Sillars who will be there with a

:54:42.:54:47.

memorial for his late wife Margo MacDonald. You had these two

:54:48.:54:52.

competing visions of unity about this debate about the future of

:54:53.:54:56.

Scotland in the United Kingdom. Thank you very much. Alex Salmond

:54:57.:55:00.

will be joining us for an interview in the studio tomorrow night. But

:55:01.:55:07.

after the fascinating day on the campaign trail, that is Reporting

:55:08.:55:13.

Scotland. Until the ten o'clock News, have a very good evening.

:55:14.:55:14.

Goodbye.

:55:15.:55:17.

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