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The referendum battle over power for the parliament. | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
The three main Westminster parties make another late offer. | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
But supporters of independence say it's a "con", | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
and people should vote Yes to get the powers Scotland needs. | :00:14. | :00:15. | |
With just a day of campaigning left, I'll be joined in the studio by | :00:16. | :00:23. | |
I thought it is absolutely clear that we have a common ground here on | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
new powers, we could get a common ground on a timetable and a common | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
ground on the principles underlying the United Kingdom. | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
If we vote no, we haven't controller Scotland right back to the | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
Westminster attachment, and have deep cross our fingers, hoping for | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
some crumbs from the Westminster table in the form of a few powers | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
here or there. With just a day of campaigning left, | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
I'll be joined in the studio by the First Minister Alex Salmond and | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
Better Together's Alistair Darling for two extended live interviews. | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
Also tonight: The NHS in Scotland is facing | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
a funding gap of more than ?400 million, according to confidential | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
papers passed to the BBC. We have been speaking to voters in | :00:59. | :01:07. | |
Glasgow and the West of Scotland, and we allied here at the Briggait | :01:08. | :01:14. | |
for the last of the BBC debates. Just over 36 hours | :01:15. | :01:22. | |
until polling stations open, and the referendum battle is about | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
whether Scotland needs more devolved Supporters of the union say they're | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
pledging to enhance Holyrood's clout, guaranteeing that MSPs can | :01:30. | :01:36. | |
protect the NHS by increasing income But advocates | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
of independence say it's a "con". This from our political editor | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
Brian Taylor. Turmoil, as a media scrum envelops | :01:45. | :01:59. | |
the Labour leader in Edinburgh. In Clydebank, his predecessor seeks to | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
offer clarity. A deal agreed with the Tories and Liberal Democrats to | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
retain the Barnett Formula, which allocates funding to Scotland. In | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
addition, it has been made absolutely clear that the Scottish | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
Parliament has the powers, if it so wishes to use them, to raise the | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
amount of money spelt on the NHS or any other public service, if they | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
are prepared to go to the Scottish people and ask them to raise the | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
revenue to do so. This nail the Scottish National Party lie that | :02:29. | :02:30. | |
somehow they are powerless to protect the National Health Service. | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
They have always had the power to do so. They will have enhanced power to | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
do so later. They've got even more powers to do so in 2016, and so the | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
future of the NHS and the final allocation of spending to it is in | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
the hands of the Scottish Parliament. | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
But, visiting an engineering firm in Renfrew, independence supporters say | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
the answer is cast iron obvious. Scotland needs full financial | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
powers, not the latest offer from the union side. | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
I think most people in Scotland would refer to it as an attempted | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
con. The only guaranteed way of getting more powers for Scotland, | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
the powers we need to protect public services, create jobs, make sure we | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
never again get Tory governments we didn't vote for, is to vote yes, | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
keep control of the future of this country where it is now, in our own | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
hands. If we vote no, we've hand control of the future of Scotland | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
straight back to the Westminster establishment and have to cross our | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
fingers, hoping for some crumbs from the Westminster table in the form of | :03:29. | :03:31. | |
a new power here or there. That's not good enough. According to | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
Nicola Sturgeon, the union plan would potentially leave Hollywood | :03:37. | :03:38. | |
heavily dependent on income tax, while independence involves a more | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
varied basket of taxes. Gordon Brown insists it is right to retain | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
certain taxes at Westminster, to fund UK welfare and shared need. | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
While giving Scotland added power. And, to help Scotland's struggling | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
communities, both sides claim their plans would succeed. | :03:59. | :03:59. | |
Will this pledge of more powers have an impact? | :04:00. | :04:07. | |
It is something to be assessed by those trying to make their minds up | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
in the last couple of days. Two questions: Will it happen, and will | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
it work? On the first question, supporters of independence say the | :04:18. | :04:20. | |
promise can be made now, but in the event of a No vote, they say the | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
atmosphere changes, they believe there will be grumbling from | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
Conservative backbenchers about the idea of giving more powers. They | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
point out that Wales, for example, doesn't like the Barnett Formula at | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
all and want it scrapped. In contrast, supporters of the union | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
say that yes, Wales, for example, wants more money but does not want | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
to rob Scotland, and secondly, they point out that these are the leaders | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
of the three big parties at Westminster, Conservative, Labour | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
and the Liberal Democrats, and therefore this amounts to a | :04:49. | :04:50. | |
political guarantee that it will happen. On the question of the | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
impact, again, supporters of independence say even if it | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
happens, it leaves Scotland potentially very heavily dependent | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
upon that single tax, income tax. The other side say that is not the | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
case. Scotland has other taxes already devolved, a variety of | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
taxation, but they argue that it is right to maintain the UK situation, | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
the UK position, whereby welfare and benefits etc are shared across the | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
whole of the UK. Once again, it is a competing couple of offers. There is | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
no single position. There are two others to the people of Scotland, | :05:25. | :05:25. | |
and they have to choose. Thank you. The NHS in Scotland is facing | :05:26. | :05:27. | |
a funding gap of more than ?400 million, according to confidential | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
papers passed to the BBC. The papers, presented to | :05:32. | :05:33. | |
a meeting of health board bosses and civil servants, suggest that | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
radical change will be needed if But the Health Secretary Alex Neil | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
says the Scottish government has protected the NHS from Tory cuts | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
and independence would stop it being under threat from Westminster | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
policies in the future. Our health correspondent | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
Eleanor Bradford reports. Here in Lanarkshire, the NHS is | :05:52. | :06:04. | |
piloting the kind of care which could help ease pressure on the NHS. | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
70-year-old Elizabeth Hadow was ill before Christmas, but did not go to | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
hospital. Nurses, paramedics and doctors treated her in her own home. | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
They couldn't do enough for me. They really looked after me. As we all | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
know, pressure on the NHS is increasing. We're getting older, | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
demanding the best drugs, the best treatments, and faster than ever. | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
But this document, compiled by NHS Chief Executive 's and leaked to the | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
BBC, suggests the NHS is facing serious budget problems over the | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
next two years, a funding gap totalling 400 to ?450 million. In | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
the confidential document on NHS bosses say that the status quo is | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
not an option. It warns that the Scottish Government has made policy | :06:53. | :06:54. | |
commitments which are not fully funded, and it says the | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
reconfiguration of services is necessary. In layman 's terms, that | :07:00. | :07:06. | |
means some units may have to close. Lanarkshire is a fairly small | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
county, but it has three big hospitals, each with its own | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
accident and emergency department. It is expensive and hard to staff. | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
Health bosses wanted to close one of these units years ago, but that | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
decision was overturned by the SNP with popular support. But if that | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
kind of hard choice back on the table after the referendum? | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
Campaigning in Airdrie today, the health minister Alex Neil said not, | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
and that these were just routine efficiency savings. | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
I don't access there is a ?400 billion gap. This is some initial | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
thinking by Chief Executives, looking at the efficiency savings | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
required, and that is very different from a funding gap. The efficiency | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
savings up until now have been 3% per year. , we might require 3.5%, | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
but every penny saved inefficiency goes back into front-line services. | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
But Jackie Baillie of Labour says this shows cuts are on the way. | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
What I absolutely hate, and I think the people of Scotland will dislike | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
as well, ever on the hand, they pretend to want to protect the NHS, | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
well behind closed doors, in secret, they are planning swingeing | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
cuts to front-line services. It is that level the hypocrisy that I | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
think the people of Scotland will reject. | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
Either way, the language of this document is stark. It comes from the | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
top, and it is a clear warning that radical action will be necessary to | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
balance the books, whatever happens on Thursday. | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
One of the key battle ground in campaign is Glasgow, and tonight, | :08:38. | :08:45. | |
Radio 1 will be hosting the last debate | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
It's being held at Glasgow's old fish market, the Briggait, | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
and our referendum correspondent Laura Bicker is there. Laura. | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
with a yes, the scene is being set the night. 150 young people but get | :08:55. | :09:01. | |
a chance to question both sides, but as you mentioned, Glasgow will be so | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
please when it comes to voting on the 18th. My colleague has spent | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
time at campaigning with both sides. The Margot Mobil's up-tempo arrival | :09:08. | :09:21. | |
in pass on that this morning. Here, the Yes campaign say they have | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
impressive divinity led counselling, and they believe this approach is | :09:25. | :09:26. | |
serving a well in Glasgow. I think that if the people who have | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
said they are going to supporters come out and supporters on Thursday, | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
we will win in Glasgow. I am confident that that will be the | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
case. What we have to do is, we have to work hard for the next 48 hours | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
to make sure that we identify all the people out there that our | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
supporters, and then on Thursday, that we get them out to vote, | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
because many of these people have registered to vote for the first | :09:48. | :09:49. | |
time. This dog is part of today Bob Crow | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
campaign team. But this. 's owner says he is still slithering on | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
voting yes, or even voting at all. You'll macro I don't think I'm clued | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
up enough to vote. I think they should have done a lot better before | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
a day before the boat. I have always voted Labour. But not | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
this time? No, not this time. We are voting for independence. | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
I know my kids are all voting Yes, but I am still a No voter. Polling | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
has suggested that people in poorer areas, which Glasgow has many, are | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
more likely to vote yes, which is why streets all across this city are | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
being well trodden by campaigners on both sides of the debate. The No | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
campaign were back in Bala knack this morning. | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
This is a tap and close battle, and that is why I have taken this | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
contest to every area in my constituency. We have spoken to | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
20,000 voters on the doorstep. This is a once all decision, whether we | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
going or whether we stay within the United Kingdom with stronger, | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
devolved powers. It is a huge decision, and I think people | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
recognise that, and I believe we are heading for a strong positive No | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
vote on Thursday. Alan Johnson of Labour did not | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
manage to talk around this voter, however. Not just oil, but there is | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
a whole wealth of commodities in Scotland to sustain itself. I think | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
it would be great, come Friday, if we go it alone. | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
If it is not broke, don't fix it. People just don't know where the | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
money is. Whether their pensions are going to be paid, what else will | :11:23. | :11:24. | |
affect them. Is it two days away? I haven't | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
really thought about it. I haven't voted that much at all. | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
Clearly, some people already know how they are going to vote, but with | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
this being a such a crucial area for both the Yes campaign and the No | :11:38. | :11:39. | |
campaign, that battle for the undecided will keep going right up | :11:40. | :11:41. | |
until the wire. The final rehearsals are underway | :11:42. | :11:53. | |
here at the Briggait, as 16 to 24-year-olds will take their seats | :11:54. | :11:55. | |
in just over an hour. The debate will start at nine o'clock. As I | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
mentioned, Glasgow is such a crucial area for both sides to win, and one | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
man who knows Glasgow politics more than any other, Tom Gordon from the | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
Sunday Herald. If I can speak to you about what both sides need to do, to | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
persuade people to win here in the West of Scotland. | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
Well, it has long been said that the road to independence runs through | :12:19. | :12:20. | |
Glasgow, for a number of reasons. One reason is the number of people | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
here. One in nine Scottish voters lives in the city. And two other big | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
groups of people, Labour supporters that the city has always been | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
loyalty Labour. And also people who don't vote. There are only five | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
constituencies where turnout was below 40% in the last election, all | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
in Glasgow. With the Yes campaign can crack Glasgow, convert Labour | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
supporters and motivate nonvoters, they are probably on to a winning | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
formula for the rest of Scotland as well. | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
You have been out on the ground as I have, and one thing that has really | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
struck me at these so-called missing millions, not only people that they | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
are signing up to vote, but people who never usually vote. It is an | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
unknown quantity at this referendum, isn't it? | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
It is, and both sides are persuading very hard. There are possibly a | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
quarter of a million of those people in the city, so on the Yes camp, | :13:06. | :13:12. | |
they are complaining that the this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
They wanted to be but that this is different, not like your average | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
election. You might feel your vote doesn't count, and they are playing | :13:19. | :13:25. | |
very hard on the fact this is a historic, once-in-a-lifetime | :13:26. | :13:26. | |
opportunity, from the other side, they are saying this is a | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get right. You can't very well | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
reverse this. This is a very important thing for both sides. They | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
are both stressing the importance of unique qualities of this contest. | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
This is an area in which they used to weigh the Labour vote, so what | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
influence will that have, do you think, on the outcome? | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
It is a mixed picture. At Westminster, Belize city's MPs are | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
Labour, but that Holyrood is mixed. In fact, the Holyrood parliament | :13:55. | :14:02. | |
sees a mixed bag. So Labour know their vote is slipping, they feel, | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
however, they are still holding onto enough of their core support to be | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
all right. Over in the Yes campaign, they are eating into that Labour | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
vote, and they feel that a lot of Labour voters feel betrayed, feeling | :14:19. | :14:20. | |
they are not the party they used to vote for. That has become too cosy | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
with big finance and the city, and has forgotten about the basics like | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
quality and poverty. So both sides are pushing that. Tom Gordon, we | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
will be watching this contest on the night. We will be back here in just | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
half an hour's time to give you a bit more here from the Briggait and | :14:38. | :14:40. | |
look at voters in East Ayrshire. Thank you much. | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
In a moment, I'll be joined by the leader of Better Together | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
Alistair Darling, but first, let's see what he's been up to | :14:49. | :14:51. | |
The key thing is, in this referendum campaign, we had to decide whether | :14:52. | :15:07. | |
or not we are staying in the UK with a parliament with increased powers | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
on whether we are leaving with all the risks that come with | :15:11. | :15:11. | |
independence. Three, two, one... | :15:12. | :15:33. | |
They blame someone else, and I think the remedy is to go it alone. I | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
don't agree with that approach. I think the philosophy is wrong. I | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
want people to vote No Thanks, because I want people to embrace the | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
opportunities and jobs that depend on us being part of the United | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
Kingdom, to say No to these risks. You can leave that on there. | :15:46. | :15:57. | |
Alistair Darling, having a last goal of water. That is allowed. Nice to | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
have you. A busy day, and an eventful one. A big pledge today, | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
more powers. Then, a grand gesture. Your opponents say it is too late, | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
and it smacks of panic. They are bound to have a go at a | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
policy that they know the majority of people of Scotland want. I think | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
most people in Scotland want to have a Scottish parliament with | :16:21. | :16:22. | |
strengthened powers, being able to raise money to put into health | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
services, for example, and the health service, as we know, is an | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
issue of key concern to voters in the referendum on especially on a | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
day when we find out that the Scottish Government is planning to | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
take ?450 million as of the health service budget, and they were not | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
going to tell us until after the referendum. We only find out because | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
someone has leaked documents showing this, so my argument is, you can | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
have a strong Scottish parliament within the UK that secures funding | :16:52. | :16:53. | |
for things like the health service, but if it wants to to raise more | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
money to put into the health service, it can do so, but either | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
way, it has complete control over the health service. It doesn't | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
matter what anyone else is doing elsewhere in the UK. In Scotland, it | :17:05. | :17:08. | |
will be under public control and properly funded. | :17:09. | :17:10. | |
You say the people of Scotland want it, but even some of your own don't | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
want it. We've just heard from Eric Joyce, former Labour MP, who | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
basically said, this will create an independent Scotland in all but | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
name, and he said it certainly won't wash with English MPs. As you know, | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
there has been disquiet already from Tories. | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
I said a majority of people in Scotland, and yes, of course there | :17:29. | :17:31. | |
are some people who prefer other options. But I do think the majority | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
of people in Scotland, as we go to the polls in a couple of days, are | :17:35. | :17:40. | |
faced with a choice between having a secure Scottish parliament, which we | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
will set up faster, in a more secure way, a better way of proceeding, | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
then years of uncertainty that would follow trying to negotiate the | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
break-up of the United Kingdom, never mind the publications with | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
Europe and so on. But the fact that it has come today | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
only reinforces the notion that it is such a deal to cut, that it has | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
taken on this line. In terms of the commitment for more | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
powers of the Scottish Parliament, they were announced some time ago. | :18:06. | :18:08. | |
The Barnett Formula has actually been around for 30 odd years. What | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
is new today is that all three people who can conceivably be the | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
Prime Minister after the general election next May have said the | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
Barnett Formula is here to stay, which means that you have got secure | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
funding. You are saying that you have to get it through Westminster, | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
and next year, Westminster's eyes will be on looking after what is | :18:29. | :18:30. | |
happening south of the border and getting their own party into power. | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
Can we have a general election, where we will choose the government | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
of the UK for the next four or five years, but people used to say this | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
before 1997, before the then Labour government legislated to set up the | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
Scottish Parliament. They said it will never happen, you will never | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
get it through. Well, we did, and since then, its powers have been | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
further strengthened. The choice we are making on Thursday is whether or | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
not we have that stronger Scottish Parliament, with the powers it needs | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
to make sure that the health service and other services are properly | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
funded, but at the same time, you are keeping the security of the UK | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
to get that funding, to make sure pensions are paid without taking the | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
risks, and there are huge and unquantified risks, unanswered | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
questions. We said we don't know the answer to them, and I think the | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
majority of people don't want to take that on when they don't act on | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
the need to do so. Here we are in just two days before the referendum, | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
and we still don't know what will happen with jobs, with firms moving | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
their headquarters south of the border, who will pay pensions, what | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
will happen in Europe, or what currency will will be using. Those | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
risks are massive risks to families, to people's standards of | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
living, and our ability to find things like the health service. | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
The last time I spoke, I said it was tight, and you said, no, I thought | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
it would be tight. I went away and thought about that. I thought, did | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
you think that your campaign would be so flawed that you would let what | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
was a 20 point lead in the polls whittle away to almost nothing? What | :19:58. | :20:03. | |
happened? I said it would be tight because the decision that we are | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
facing on Thursday is not likely general election, where you can give | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
the government a good kicking if that is what you want. This is a | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
decision that will decide our future, where we and the generations | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
to come stand with our neighbours, or whether we decide that we are | :20:17. | :20:19. | |
going to break away. It is not surprising that when you have a | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
decision of that magnitude, you get people, even at this late stage, a | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
surprising number of people who are still slithering between one side or | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
another. It is not surprisingly get that, and my job, and my | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
colleagues' jobs in the neck couple of days is to persuade people that | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
you can get the change you want within the security and strength of | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
the UK. We could make Scotland stronger, but that we should not go | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
down the road of entering into a whole lot of risks on jobs, prices, | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
the weekly shop and so on, that we don't need to take. | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
Are you saying that that no point in the last few weeks you have | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
scratched your head and foot, where have we gone wrong? Where has our | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
lead gone? Is it something we are doing wrong, what are they doing? | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
I think in the last couple of years, since this campaign started, having | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
visited places up and down Scotland, having talked to countless numbers | :21:12. | :21:13. | |
of people, what I know is that people want change and of course, | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
there are two competing visions of change, and whether or not you | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
achieve that in a faster, more secure and better way within the UK, | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
and whether you take a leap into the unknown with a whole bunch of | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
questions that will affect people's standard of living and the prospect | :21:30. | :21:31. | |
of their children and grandchildren getting jobs, all those risks which | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
we know are there, and which the Nationalists now make no attempt to | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
answer. They say, everyone else is wrong and we are right. You do this | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
against a backdrop of people who are telling you this, aren't ones who | :21:43. | :21:47. | |
chose not to tell as they were planning to cut ?450 million from a | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
health service. If you win, do you think the union | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
will still be workable after what you've seen, and how close it is? | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
Yes, I do, because what we are talking about, there's a world of | :22:01. | :22:03. | |
difference between increased, enhanced powers for the Scottish | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
parliament within the UK, and breaking up the UK, going our | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
separate ways, breaking up 300 years of history. There is a world of | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
difference between the two. Of course the constitution will evolve, | :22:15. | :22:21. | |
and that is how it should be. When but the key question that we are | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
facing in a couple of days is whether we are part of that process | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
of change, whether we can help control their change, remember, | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
Scotland's influence in the rest of the UK has been far greater than our | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
population would suggest. We can be influential within the United | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
Kingdom, rather than being outside begging to get back into a currency | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
union or something like that. It is far better to ill on the strength | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
that we have, the confidence we have other nation, being confident in | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
ourselves and saying Nothing Is to all those risks, but yes, we can | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
build a better, stronger Scotland within the United Kingdom. | :23:01. | :23:02. | |
When David Cameron says passionately, a vote to end the | :23:03. | :23:05. | |
union is forever, this is a selling point for many people. | :23:06. | :23:07. | |
Did you realise what you were up against? It is a decision we take on | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
Thursday, and if we decide to leave, it is forever. You can't come | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
back. And as I say, this is not like an election, where you can say, I do | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
like the government, I'm going to kick them out for at least the | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
Millicent and votes in thing else. If this all goes wrong, and imagine | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
for a moment, suppose Alex Salmond is wrong about the building he has | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
said, because an awful lot of it is a wish list, a list of assertions | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
which depend on a lot of other people agreeing with him, and he | :23:36. | :23:37. | |
doesn't have a plan B for anything, as far as I can see. You have gone | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
over some of the ground. Yes, but even at this stage, it is | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
worth reminding people that we don't know the answer to some fundamental | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
questions, yet we are being asked to take a decision that if we go, is | :23:50. | :23:57. | |
irrevocable. We are being asked to gamble the future of our children | :23:58. | :24:00. | |
and our children by Lego children on that. I think it is far better to | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
get the change we want, building a stronger Scottish parliament so that | :24:04. | :24:05. | |
we can make sure that we can protect the health service, making sure we | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
can pay pensions, and create jobs here. | :24:09. | :24:10. | |
It is critically important. Alistair Darling, thank you for your time. | :24:11. | :24:12. | |
I'm about to be joined - for Yes - by the First Minister Alex Salmond, | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
but first, let's have a look at Mr Salmond on the campaign trail. | :24:16. | :24:28. | |
Nobody sensible believes other than this country, which founded the | :24:29. | :24:37. | |
science of economic, this country which gave the world so much in so | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
many areas, dare they say that this country is not capable of running | :24:43. | :24:43. | |
own affairs? What we are interested in is having | :24:44. | :24:56. | |
a powerhouse parliament that can create jobs in Scotland, but team | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
Westminster seem to be concerned about their own jobs. Vote Scotland! | :25:00. | :25:21. | |
Well, I am now joined by First Minister Alex Salmond. Thank you for | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
coming in. When I said do it again there, I wasn't being serious! I | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
don't know, it is all about sponsorship. Now, health, one of the | :25:33. | :25:38. | |
cornerstones of your campaign. One of the leaked documents today, | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
cutbacks of ?400 million. That can't have gone down well. | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
Firstly, there are no cutbacks. The health budget was agreed from | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
February the 5th next year, before 2015. This shows yet another | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
increase for next year, and it will be increased in real terms, front | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
line budget for the following year as well. So they are not cutbacks, | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
but cost pressures in the health service. Looking at the document, it | :26:00. | :26:02. | |
actually makes the case that the Yes campaign have been putting forward, | :26:03. | :26:06. | |
so what are these cost pressures? The vast majority of them, the | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
pensions, national insurance rebate, is evidence that our health service | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
will have to pay for Westminster to the Treasury because of changes they | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
have made in how the health service is funded. We will have to give | :26:19. | :26:20. | |
money to the western section that, which creates pressures, which will | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
be dealt with, but how much better would it be if we have the finances | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
of the health service and Scottish towns, so if they introduce | :26:31. | :26:33. | |
something like abandoning the national insurance rebate, we would | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
pay the money to the Scottish exchequer? | :26:36. | :26:47. | |
The person relate this thinks that's a yes rhetoric is not true. The big | :26:48. | :26:59. | |
issue is the way that the NHS in Scotland is run by our Scottish | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
government. The plans for transformational change, this is the | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
leaked document, treatment thresholds, having a look at that, | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
stopping procedures with limited clinical effect, reviewing drug | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
treatments and so on, and so on... I can dismiss all of that because | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
the plans already announced by the health boards between April and June | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
this year achieved more cost savings than that paper identified. These | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
are already public plans that have been published. All the money from | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
the savings is reinvested in the health budget, which is why it is | :27:32. | :27:33. | |
increasing in real terms and will continue to do so across next year | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
and the year after. What I am pointing out is that, if you look at | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
the vast bulk of these cost pressures, the changes -- they are | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
changes to pages from Westminster, changes to national children's from | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
Westminster, the fact that Westminster did not pay nurses 1% | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
pay rise in England, we did in Scotland. Even when we have a real | :27:56. | :28:02. | |
terms increase if we do not the overall finances, our health service | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
has to respond to cost pressures. How much better would it be if we | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
controlled the finances and the organisation of the health service? | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
You are in charge of health. If you need any money, you have tax-raising | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
powers, which you have not used. I will come to that in a second, | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
this is money that will now be paid from the health service and pensions | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
and the National jewellers rebate to the Westminster Exchequer because of | :28:33. | :28:34. | |
changes they have made. It makes the entire point about the health | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
service we had making through campaign. -- National Insurance. | :28:39. | :28:47. | |
Let's move on, I had to move on Mr Darling, I have asked you about as | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
grazing powers. But Michael -- tax-raising powers. | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
So that we can compensate from cutbacks from Westminster, we end up | :29:00. | :29:01. | |
paying for the health service twice. If we're going to cut things, cut | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
guided missiles or the House of Lords or the House of Commons. | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
Invest that in the health service in Scotland. | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
They got all the health service, you have to control finance and | :29:15. | :29:17. | |
administration. That is why it is safe in an independent Scotland and | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
under pressure as long as we remain under Westminster control. | :29:21. | :29:23. | |
What will the currency of Scotland B? | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
We will use the pound. Alistair Darling admitted it. | :29:29. | :29:30. | |
George Osborne says you are not going to use the pound. | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
Alistair Darling in the BBC debate said of course you can use the | :29:36. | :29:37. | |
pound. The interesting thing about that, that was diametrically against | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
what George Osborne has been saying. | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
He did qualify it. An unofficial currency link, say you do get to use | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
some sort of unofficial currency link, do you still want to be part | :29:54. | :29:55. | |
of the EU? There is no permission involved. We | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
think there will be a currency union because the mandate of the Scottish | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
people will be for that and it is in the best interests of Scotland and | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
the rest of the UK. You said yourself, you do not need | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
their say-so. You think you would be able to get into the EU? | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
A common-sense agreement on a common currency is not in any sense on | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
official. To get into the EU and qualify you need two things, the | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
institutional monetary Institute and a conduct authority. | :30:25. | :30:27. | |
We intend to have both of these MPs are part of the proposals were put | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
forward. You need a bag of last resort or tens of million pounds for | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
your own bag of last resort. You need a monetary and conduct | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
authority in of qualification. We will have a common-sense | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
agreement and the Bank of England will be the shared central bank. Why | :30:43. | :30:48. | |
did Ollie Wren, who has recently stepped down as European | :30:49. | :30:50. | |
Commissioner, say it is not possible? | :30:51. | :30:53. | |
The institutions you require under the rules are the monetary authority | :30:54. | :30:58. | |
and conduct authority. Why did Professor David Blatchford | :30:59. | :31:04. | |
described the UK's parties as bluster. | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
He is a former member of the monetary policy committee. | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
It was also described as a bluff from a famous economist. | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
People understand that we are England's meaning trading partner, | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
the second business -- biggest after the US. | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
Why would we not have a common-sense agreement on a common currency? Why | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
did you describe the pound as a millstone around Scotland's neck? | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
That was around 13 years ago in an interview in Catalonia, if I | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
remember correctly. Many times I have argued that come in a contest | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
of putting forward as Michael argued, that in a Kong set -- | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
context of putting forward what is bit for the UK, it makes | :31:48. | :31:49. | |
common-sense. Four years ago, sterling was sinking | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
like a stone, you said. It was losing its position... | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
So we abandon it? That is not a long-term thought process for an | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
independent state to have. Change the currency if it is not very | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
strong. Commenting on the way sterling is in | :32:06. | :32:12. | |
international exchanges is not a policy. | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
This is about a policy -- opportunity, a once-in-a-lifetime | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
opportunity, to take Scotland's future into Scotland's hands. We | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
have had a consistent position on sterling for many years and that has | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
been put forward in the context of independence. This referendum is not | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
about the SNP or me or anything I have said or anything anyone else | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
has said in the past. This is about the people of Scotland at last | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
having an opportunity to take their future into Scotland's hands. | :32:41. | :32:49. | |
How many people in Scotland? Past referendums in recent decades on | :32:50. | :32:51. | |
independence that have been successful at being won by thumping | :32:52. | :32:53. | |
majorities. I am sure you will agree this will be very close. Is that the | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
basis for a new country, with such a divided nation? | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
Edinburgh agreement clause 13, both sides will accept the result and | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
move forward in the best interests of Scotland and the UK. We are not | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
aiming for a majority of one, we are trying our hardest, as the underdogs | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
in this campaign, campaigning hard until 10pm on Thursday night to | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
secure every possible vote, persuade our fellow citizens that this is the | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
opportunity to take Scotland's future into Scotland's hands. | :33:23. | :33:29. | |
Do you group yet -- do you regret at any stage saying there were no | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
risks? You have batted back every institution as scaremongering, are | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
there no risks crash at a pub in specific about what I have described | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
as scaremongering. Companies like supermarkets asked by | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
the Tory prime ministers if they could make hostile comments about | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
Scottish independence. I have also acknowledged that for every Asda | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
Gold into that scaremongering campaign, there are companies like | :33:56. | :33:58. | |
Tesco and Aldi saying, we are business people and have nothing to | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
do with that. That is what I have been talking about. In Thames of | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
challengers, of course we will have challengers come every country does. | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
The point of independence is having the powers and ability to overcome | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
these challenges. We will also make mistakes as an independent country. | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
We will have to overcome these mistakes and take the opportunity to | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
take our future into our own hands. Thank you very much for joining us, | :34:25. | :34:27. | |
Alex Salmond. With the polls tightening in in the | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
last few days, a key battle ground in recent weeks has been the attempt | :34:31. | :34:37. | |
to gain the support of Scotland's ethnic minorities. I see minorities, | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
but as our correspondent reports, the Asian community alone accounts | :34:42. | :34:47. | |
for 100,000 voters. Scotland's Asian population is | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
growing, around 6% at the last census, up from 4% to ten years | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
earlier. In Glasgow the proportion is even higher, around 12%. In a | :34:56. | :35:01. | |
tight referendum campaign, these are significant votes. | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
With an estimated 100,000 members of the South Asian community in | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
Scotland, competition to win their votes is keen. It is clear the | :35:08. | :35:15. | |
issues that divide them are pretty much the same as the issues that | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
divide everybody else. Glasgow's Central Mosque, the | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
largest in Scotland, has been a focal point for campaigning in | :35:25. | :35:25. | |
recent weeks. The Islamic community the at the | :35:26. | :35:40. | |
mosque has maintained a strict neutrality, but Friday prayers was | :35:41. | :35:43. | |
an opportunity to meet the leaders of both sides of the debate. No | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
matter your country of origin, no matter if you have bombarded | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
Scotland you have come to work in Scotland, -- no matter if you have | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
been born in Scotland, this issue is as important to you as anyone else. | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
Scotland is your home, and I hope generations of families continue to | :36:01. | :36:03. | |
stay. That is why it is important to not make this a protest vote, make a | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
decision that is best for your family and for Scotland. | :36:08. | :36:13. | |
The Scots Asians for independence group joked they had even brought | :36:14. | :36:15. | |
monsoon weather to the campaign trail. | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
Now the weather has got better, so we are going to peel this back and | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
now we can sort out all of our leaflets. It did not dampen there | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
and easy as for a debate they say has fired the imagination of the | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
Asian community. Scottish Asians are hugely engaged | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
in this campaign, and they see this as a real opportunity to change the | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
future for Scotland. As you know, as a community we are very family | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
oriented and we want to make sure they aren't part of a better | :36:44. | :36:45. | |
society. I feel as a Scottish Asian myself | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
there is an onus on us to vote the right way for a country that has | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
taken us to its heart. And make sure we would positively on the 18th of | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
September for a better future for all of us. -- make sure we vote. | :36:58. | :37:04. | |
The referendum debate has proved popular on Glasgow's Asian radio | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
station. Each week, leading figures have come to the studio was to cut | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
-- take part in a two-hour long bone in. | :37:12. | :37:18. | |
-- phone in. Events abroad play a role when it comes to making a | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
decision. In terms of immigration, I think it is completed it. You have | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
the SNP suggesting there will be more immigration to Scotland, and | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
more immigration is required. On the other hand, there are fears and | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
concerns about whether or not it will make things more difficult | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
Scotland becomes independent. Will it make things difficult between | :37:43. | :37:46. | |
Scotland and England in terms of access to England and border | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
patrols? Researchers are seizing the | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
opportunity to study how the Asian community votes. They save the | :37:55. | :37:56. | |
referendum exposes for the first time the way in which they view the | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
country in which they live. It helps to finance for the first | :38:01. | :38:04. | |
time as the Scottish full stop we know that ethnic minorities in | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
Scotland are twice as likely to identify as Scottish as in England. | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
There is a sense of ownership over the idea of Scotland amongst ethnic | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
minorities and that could translate to a Yes or No vote, but not | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
directly. It more broadly feeds into a sense of ownership of the | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
political terrain. By Lehigh turnout is predicted | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
across the country, campaigners say it could be particularly heavy in | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
the areas where Asians predominates, such as Pollokshields in Glasgow, | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
and that could hold the key in Glasgow. | :38:40. | :38:40. | |
You're watching an extended Reporting Scotland from the BBC. | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
We'll be speaking live to the First Minister, Alex Salmond, and to | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
We hear how the referendum campaign is faring in Ayrshire. | :38:47. | :38:55. | |
A man charged with murdering his wife | :38:56. | :38:57. | |
and child said he did not mean to murder 29-year-old Janet Lockhart, | :38:58. | :39:00. | |
and killed his son so the two year old could be with his mother. | :39:01. | :39:03. | |
Gary Lockhart told the High Court in Edinburgh today that | :39:04. | :39:05. | |
at the time killing his son seemed the right thing to do. | :39:06. | :39:08. | |
Janet Lockhart putt parents left court after hearing Gary Lockhart | :39:09. | :39:17. | |
admits to murdering their daughter when he came home to -- from a | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
drunken night out. He admitted killing his two-year-old son hours | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
later but said it was not murder. The bodies were found at their home | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
in Bonnyrigg in December last year. Janet Lockhart had been strangled, | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
Michael had been suffocated. Gary Lockhart told the court he | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
believes in reincarnation. He said it was this sort will assess that | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
meet until his son. He wanted him to be with his dead mother, Janet. He | :39:46. | :39:51. | |
said, when I look back, my thought process was wrong. Michael could | :39:52. | :39:55. | |
have grown up with his grandparents. He told the court repeatedly he | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
should not have killed his two-year-old son. | :40:00. | :40:01. | |
Under cross-examination, Gary Lockhart was told what he did to | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
Michael was worse because he meant to kill him. He said, I did not want | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
to kill him, I had a stress reaction, what ever it is called. | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
Gary Lockhart's family were in court, they heard him say he still | :40:18. | :40:20. | |
loved his wife and child and would be with them again one day. | :40:21. | :40:22. | |
The trial continues. Two men have died after a helicopter | :40:23. | :40:34. | |
crash in the sea of East Yorks. The craft, described as a Jet Ranger | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
helicopter, is thought to have taken off from West Lothian this morning. | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
Eyewitnesses said the helicopter, thought to be a private charter, | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
seemed to be trying to land near the Flamborough head golf course. | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
Emergency services recovered the bodies of the two men just before | :40:51. | :40:52. | |
5pm. Four men have appeared at the | :40:53. | :40:53. | |
High Court in Glasgow charged with attempting to murder two former | :40:54. | :40:55. | |
leaders of the Loyalist UDA. Anton Duffy, Martin Hughes, Paul | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
Sands and John Gorman are alleged to have planned to kill Johnny | :40:59. | :41:01. | |
"Mad Dog" Adair and Sam McCrory. Anton Duffy and John Gorman, | :41:02. | :41:03. | |
are also alleged to have planned the murder of the former governor | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
of Barlinnie Prison, Derek McGill, A Highland firefighter has been | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
jailed for two years after starting two wildfires which destroyed | :41:11. | :41:22. | |
forestry worth more than ?1 million. Fort William Sheriff Court heard | :41:23. | :41:24. | |
that David Mackay from Strontian had over 20 years' | :41:25. | :41:26. | |
service but had been seen in the areas where the fires broke out, | :41:27. | :41:29. | |
with his movements confirmed by a Scottish Fire and Rescue said Mackay | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
had let himself, the service In a week of waiting | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
for big decisions, Scotland will find out on Friday | :41:37. | :41:56. | |
if Glasgow will be a host city for UEFA's 60th anniversary celebrations | :41:57. | :41:59. | |
of the European Championships. 13 Host city venues will be chosen | :42:00. | :42:01. | |
for Euro 2020 and Sir Alex Ferguson believes Hampden and Glasgow will be | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
a perfect choice after the success If anyone watched the Commonwealth | :42:06. | :42:16. | |
Games in the summer, that was a perfect example of Glasgow still | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
having this wonderful atmosphere, and also the friendship. They had a | :42:23. | :42:25. | |
great slogan throughout the Commonwealth Games, that said people | :42:26. | :42:31. | |
make Glasgow. They have that great history, they have had six finals | :42:32. | :42:34. | |
and I think Glasgow can create that again. | :42:35. | :42:35. | |
This could be a week of making history in Scotland. | :42:36. | :42:38. | |
The racing industry certainly hope so - | :42:39. | :42:39. | |
one of the country's top trainers says he hopes to end Scottish | :42:40. | :42:42. | |
Jim Goldie has two runners in the Ayr Gold Cup | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
which hasn't been won by a Scottish-trained horse since 1975. | :42:47. | :42:49. | |
Kheredine Idessane went along to Goldie's yard just outside | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
Glasgow to find out how preparations are going. | :42:55. | :43:03. | |
Away from the gallops, it is a bit of a merry-go-round, as preparations | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
continue for one of British racing's biggest days. Meet the | :43:09. | :43:15. | |
horses who hope to do what no Scottish horse has managed in nearly | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
40 years. This is one of the stable stars. He | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
is the only Scottish horse ever to win a stewards cup, which is one of | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
the big handicaps in England, at Goodwood. He is unique in that. He | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
is warm bed. I drained his mother and father, born in Scotland, very | :43:34. | :43:42. | |
much a Scottish horse. He is named after my two grandsons, Jack and | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
Dexter, so he is very personal to us. | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
I think even Jack Dexter here knows there is a certain important vote | :43:51. | :43:53. | |
coming up on Thursday but you have to go back to before the last | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
independence referendum for the last time a Scottish trained horse won | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
the Ayr Gold Cup. It was Roman Warrior by image and 75. What chance | :44:02. | :44:08. | |
Jim Goldie can update that on Saturday? -- in 1975. | :44:09. | :44:17. | |
It has been a long while since Roman Warrior did it and it would be good | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
in the referendum here for a Scottish horse to take the win. | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
So, will it be Yes or No for Jack Dexter or Hawkeyethenoo? We will | :44:27. | :44:27. | |
find out on Saturday afternoon. The world canoe slalom champion, | :44:28. | :44:29. | |
David Florence, says he is not going out with a medal in mind | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
for this years event. The Edinburgh paddler will begin | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
the defence of He says, of course he would | :44:36. | :44:37. | |
like to win, but the world number one believes success will come | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
if he focuses on his performance, My good results have come about not | :44:42. | :44:56. | |
from going there determined to win this. It is not a head sport, we go | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
out and do our own run and see how the others have gone. I am trying to | :45:02. | :45:06. | |
put in the best runs I can on the day, that is all I will aim for and | :45:07. | :45:07. | |
it is no different to usual. Before I go, | :45:08. | :45:09. | |
there's commentary tonight on Radio Scotland Sportsound of Rangers | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
v Inverness CT in the League Cup. One thing that has been calm in | :45:14. | :45:23. | |
Scotland recently as the weather, surprisingly enough. | :45:24. | :45:25. | |
What is in store? That will continue, yes, a lot of | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
dry weather to come this week, though very mixed fortunes in terms | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
of sunshine. Today we had 20 Celsius in parts of the North West West, | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
well above the seasonal average. Just 14 Celsius on the East Coast, | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
where we struggled to shift mist and low cloud. We have been | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
predominantly dry with some showers cropping up through the day, but we | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
will lose those quickly tonight, then this band of showers hanging on | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
over Shetland. Otherwise it will be dry, but like last night mist and | :45:56. | :46:01. | |
hill fog and low cloud becoming expensive especially around the | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
North Sea coasts. Temperature wise, around 11 or 12 Celsius for most, | :46:06. | :46:11. | |
chilly in some parts of the Highlands. | :46:12. | :46:21. | |
Tomorrow is a great start, warm sunshine breaking through for Dom | :46:22. | :46:24. | |
frisson began a, parts of South Lanarkshire, Ayrshire and Clyde | :46:25. | :46:33. | |
coasts, -- for Dumfries, we will keep cloud coming through on the | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
easterly breeze and generally for eastern Scotland a lot of mist and | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
low cloud hanging on. Temperature is a good 5 degrees down on the Moray | :46:43. | :46:48. | |
coast on what we saw today. To end the day, some sunshine in the West, | :46:49. | :46:57. | |
in the East the mist remaining a feature. On Thursday pressures | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
building, a lot of dry weather to come but still a bit of an easterly | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
flow. Again, a split to the weather across eastern Scotland, a lot of | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
mist and low cloud, some outbreaks of patchy drizzle for the | :47:11. | :47:17. | |
Berwickshire coast. Not a lot of sunshine, the best to the west and | :47:18. | :47:20. | |
where the sun comes out it will be warm, providing a lot of dry weather | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
but a good deal of cloud is specially in the east. The best of | :47:25. | :47:25. | |
the sunshine in the West. At the Briggait arts centre | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
in Glasgow Radio 1 is hosting the last BBC debate of the campaign, | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
and Laura Bicker is there. Laura, | :47:35. | :47:36. | |
in my day it was Radio 1 roadshows, I suppose this reflects the | :47:37. | :47:46. | |
importance of the youth vote in this referendum? | :47:47. | :47:50. | |
That is right, they are starting to arrive now for an evening of heated | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
debate. The number of young people I have spoken to really know this | :47:56. | :48:04. | |
debate inside and out. Being from Ayrshire, I know that in my home | :48:05. | :48:11. | |
area have been heated debates around copy tables and in coffee shops. | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
You do not have to go far to find evidence of the yes campaign in | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
Kilmarnock. Traditionally it is Labour country, but the Yes campaign | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
say the vote is moving from No to Yes. | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
It is a manufacturing time that has been destroyed over the years by | :48:29. | :48:32. | |
successive policies that have created that. -- manufacturing town. | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
People in Colmar will voting for hope. They will be voting for a | :48:39. | :48:46. | |
change. -- people in Kilmarnock. In the local printers, they have | :48:47. | :48:49. | |
been selling T-shirts for all sides of the debate but more than 90% of | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
customers have been asking for Yes T-shirts. It is far from a | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
scientific voters can it really only tells us that Yes voters like | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
T-shirts, but it does show how committed they are. | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
If someone is wearing a T-shirt, they get honked, everyone is smiling | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
and nodding, it is a good feeling. I was undecided until a fortnight | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
ago, and the thing that gelled with me was that this gives Scotland, the | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
only part of the UK that gets such a choice, to say we want a fairer | :49:25. | :49:27. | |
society. The experience in Kilmarnock tells | :49:28. | :49:34. | |
us the Yes campaign are allowed and proud in Ayrshire, but don't mistake | :49:35. | :49:37. | |
that for a lack of support for the union. The No voters may be quieter, | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
but they are less certain of their decision. | :49:42. | :49:44. | |
Better together campaigners have been knocking on the doors of a | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
former mining village that struggled with high unemployment and | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
deprivation since the mines closed. They see a few of the traditional | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
Labour supporters who live here have been swayed by the Yes campaign. | :49:57. | :50:03. | |
On the doorsteps, the reasons for voting No vary, but the economy is | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
high on the list. We have just come through a pretty | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
bad recession as it is. Working in retail I just see us as starting to | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
recover, and when you're just starting to get somewhere this is | :50:15. | :50:17. | |
surely the wrong time to knock it away from underneath us. | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
I would like a guarantee for my future that I know exactly what is | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
happening, and going independent, you cannot. There are too many lies | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
and fighting and there are no actual facts. | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
They may not all be wearing T-shirts, but you cannot mistake | :50:33. | :50:34. | |
that for a lack of passion among No campaigners. | :50:35. | :50:40. | |
I don't truck 's Alex -- trust Alex Salmond, I never have. People who | :50:41. | :50:44. | |
think they are going to get a left-wing government up here are | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
misguided and misled. I will keep on canvassing No until I fall down or | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
until it is over! It is clear both sides here in | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
Ayrshire have put everything into this campaign, but only one will see | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
the result they have fought so hard for. | :51:01. | :51:03. | |
Real passion there in Ayrshire, and I have my two last activists here, I | :51:04. | :51:16. | |
saved the best for last! Why did you get involved in better | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
together? This is the biggest issues got one | :51:20. | :51:21. | |
has phased in over 300 years, really, and it was important to me | :51:22. | :51:26. | |
that women's voices were part of the process to make sure they were being | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
heard. I also passionately believe we are better together and I wanted | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
to make that case. When it comes to your campaign, I | :51:33. | :51:40. | |
have been there, that is a real hotbed of heated debate in | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
Castlemilk. There are a lot of Yes supporters. Yes, we are up there | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
today, Castlemilk may even break away and become its own independent | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
country after the referendum. There was a lot of enthusiasm, a | :51:53. | :51:56. | |
carnival atmosphere across Glasgow, but focusing on areas like | :51:57. | :51:59. | |
Castlemilk. It is key to get the working class vote out and it is | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
clear to me people in these areas want to see change and a new | :52:04. | :52:06. | |
Scotland. We have just mentioned the working | :52:07. | :52:09. | |
class vote. Is that something you have been aiming for on the | :52:10. | :52:12. | |
doorsteps trying to get people to vote No? | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
I have been speaking to everyone. This cuts across all classes and | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
backgrounds. We have been campaigning in Renfrewshire, and I | :52:21. | :52:22. | |
am confident we are going to come back with no from them. | :52:23. | :52:29. | |
The big story is that people feel independence will be bad for the | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
Scottish economy. The big story today is the concerns around the | :52:34. | :52:35. | |
NHS. It is a big thing across Scotland | :52:36. | :52:38. | |
generally, but people have been worried sick about it. We have been | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
hearing stories about the whole Braveheart, you can take our freedom | :52:44. | :52:47. | |
but not our bedpans, and today we find out there was a secret report | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
that we are facing half ?1 million worth of cuts? Secrets! | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
Alex Salmond has answered those claims in the programme this | :52:59. | :53:00. | |
evening, but I should give you a chance to come back on that. Is the | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
NHS under threat with independence? The NHS is under threat if we stick | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
with the UK. It is clear, the UK Government have been watering at the | :53:11. | :53:13. | |
most to cut Scotland's budget even further. All of our public services | :53:14. | :53:18. | |
applet if we continue the way we are. What we are hearing from people | :53:19. | :53:23. | |
on the doors in Castlemilk, when they hear a pledge from Nick Clegg | :53:24. | :53:26. | |
and the scaremongering in the last few days, it is a massive highlight. | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
People in cars or milk will not be fooled, people in Glasgow will not | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
be filled it is their country and they are going to it work. | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
You do have been chatting together, I have to say, you can see the | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
passion from U2. What on earth? What on earth are you | :53:45. | :53:50. | |
going to do next week? This has been your life for so long? | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
I am going to get a life, spend some time with my children. Hello! | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
They will not forgive me for that. Maybe my mother, as well, no one has | :54:01. | :54:05. | |
seen me for a while. What about you? Yes, I will have to go and spend | :54:06. | :54:07. | |
time with my mum. Also with my partner. | :54:08. | :54:14. | |
You said you are going to do your own washing? Yes, my own washing and | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
cooking and cleaning, I promise. We also have Edith Bowman, how are | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
you feeling about tonight Gretchen Mark I can't wait. | :54:24. | :54:26. | |
I have been chatting to 16 and 17-year-olds who are incredibly | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
involved in this whole debate. It is incredible, and that is one thing | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
everyone can take away from this experience, it has engaged the young | :54:35. | :54:37. | |
people of Scotland in the future which ever way it goes. It is so | :54:38. | :54:39. | |
exciting. Are you ready for this debate? | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
I am terrified! I think that is a good way to be. | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
Are you going to intervene if it gets heeded? | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
People know me, I can be pretty bossy, so I just have to get my Fife | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
bossy ways in there and make sure I am heard. | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
I am sure you will do just that. We're looking forward to an evening | :55:02. | :55:08. | |
of debate here at the Briggait, that starts at 9pm and we will be here | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
for it, live on the BBC News channel, as well. | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
Lots of choice tonight because at 9pm on BBC One Scotland there is a | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
change to the said Joel for two special referendum interviews. David | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
Dibble B will be speaking to Gordon Brown and Alex Salmond. | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
-- a change to the schedule. A reminder of the news, with 36 | :55:30. | :55:33. | |
hours until the opening of the polling stations, supporters of the | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
unions have agreed to enhance Holyrood's powers but those in | :55:39. | :55:40. | |
favour of independence call it a con. | :55:41. | :55:48. | |
That is reporting Scotland, I will be back with the headlines at 8pm | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
and the late bulletin is just after the 10pm news. Until then, from | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
everyone on the team right across the country, enjoy the rest of your | :55:57. | :55:58. | |
evening. Goodbye. | :55:59. | :56:00. |