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There's more throughout the evening on the BBC News Channel, we are back

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Just 36 hours after the referendum result, politicians are already in

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The former Prime Minister Gordon Brown says the Westminster pledge

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to voters of further devolution will be honoured.

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But the SNP say that promise has already been broken.

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By St Andrew's Day, the terms of agreement. By Burns day, the laws

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which will be backed. I am watching this unravel before my eyes.

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After defeat on Friday and the First Minister's departure, we examine how

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Scotland's party of government can get back to business as usual.

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And ugly scenes on the streets of Glasgow.

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We're live in the city with the story of how

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In the aftermath of the referendum verdict and

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the First Minister's resignation, we've got a specially extended

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Tonight, the SNP say promises of more

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devolution made by the Westminster parties ahead of Thursday's vote,

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But in a speech in Fife, the former Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown

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said the tri-party pledge made during the campaign would be upheld.

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This is despite the fact that the main parties can't agree over

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The Kingdom of Fife, free the referendum result was confirmed,

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home to one of the key protagonists is now addressing question, what

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next? Gordon Brown's speech had a unifying theme, praise for Alex

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Salmond, a formidable opponent, he said, he has ordered debt of

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gratitude. He saluted both campaigns for their tenacity but argued Scots

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should now focus on United values and aspirations, setting aside the

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leaflets and stickers. Let us think of ourselves not as Yes Scots or No

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Scots, but simply as Scots, and United let us be a nation again.

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This timetable for more powers for the Scottish parliament emerged when

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there is no campaign or having your biggest wobble. It was backed by the

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three main UK parties but very much fronted by Gordon Brown, whose

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reputation hangs on its delivery. Civil servants, he said, are already

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at work. A debate is fixed on the calendar and he reiterated,

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proposals on powers by the end of that month, consultation and

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agreement by St Andrews Day, with draft legislation by the end of

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January this year. That is set in concrete, nobody can go back on

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that. That is something that all party leaders have agreed to. In my

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view, with the elections coming up soon, if leaders do not deliver this

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then they will have to face the Scottish electorate. The SNP see

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their already the first deadline -- say that already depressed deadline

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has been missed. They were meant to deliver it yesterday, it has not

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come. It is not devo max, what is on the table is a pale shadow of

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maximum devolution. Yes supporters today echoed those concerns. They

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have already missed the first promise on the timetable. The

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shortest marriage vows in history. Rail they are no fudging the issue

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by trying to make it about everyone else. Gordon Brown says that to be

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debate wider constitutional reform will not affect his timetable.

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Our Westminster correspondent is outside the Houses of Parliament.

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The focus seems to have shifted rather abrupt way to Westminster.

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What developments were there there today? The fallout and the wrangling

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continues. People are realising that it is quite easy to say yes, we will

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have constitutional reform, it might be a lot harder to actually deliver

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that. There are signs of tensions within the meaning Westminster

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parties about how they achieved that. David Cameron said that he

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wanted more devolution for Scotland but he also wanted to link that to

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policies affecting England. In effect, what he wanted to do was try

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to resolve the West Lothian question, whereby Scottish MPs can

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vote on health and education issues in England that does not affect

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them. It causes a lot of annoyance amongst English MPs. What David

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Cameron did was throw the equivalent of a political hand grenade at Ed

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Miliband. Ed Miliband says that he wants constitutional reform but

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extra power is going to Scotland need not be linked to looking at the

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whole devolution question in England. Why does he say that? Ed

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Miliband has 41 Labour MPs in Scotland. If he becomes Prime

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Minister next year he does not want a situation whereby those MPs cannot

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vote on all of the matter is that the haze -- the haze deals with. He

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may not be able to get them through because he would not have a

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majority. The timetable is incredibly tight. It is incredibly

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tight. Normally constitutional reform takes a long time, not just

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because you want to think about it very carefully, the MPs will want to

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think about it carefully, but also the House of Lords. If they exist

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for one thing it is discussing and looking at legislation and picking

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holes in it. They like to look long and hard at constitutional reform.

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There are many people in the House of Lords that would want to deal

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with this on a long-term basis. They will not want to be rushed. We may

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have a situation whereby we get a draft law put into place, but it

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will be for the government elected after the general election in May,

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2015, here at Westminster, which would then have to enact those

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powers. It is not going to be easy and it is not going to be speedy.

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So, what next for the party of government in Scotland, the SNP?

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After losing the referendum and their leader Alex Salmond

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in the same day, how does the party dust itself down and continue with

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Our Referendum Correspondent Laura Bicker is at the Scottish Parliament

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Laura, any suggestion from the SNP of a leadership race?

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At the moment everybody is getting some sleep after a long referendum

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campaign. But independence has been a common goal for the last however

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many years it has been here at the parliament. But what I can tell you

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is that they may have lost the referendum, but within the last 36

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hours they gained 5000 new members, swelling numbers to over 30,000, a

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sign of the legacy of the involvement within this referendum.

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I have been looking at what might be next for the SNP.

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A lifelong dream lost. The party at its heart placed so much emphasis on

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hope. So what next? Without independence at its core, what

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becomes of the SNP? I think that the role is now more important than

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ever. It might seem like a long time ago now, but just this week the

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three leaders from the mean parties were telling us that Scotland would

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get lots more powers, more devolution, that was their pledge as

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Beadle does. The SNP has a big job on their hands keeping them to that

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pledge and that phone. There is however the question of a new

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leader. Some believe that could be a simple and unchallenged process. I

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think that they will realise the need to avoid an internal

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conversation. A bit of leadership navel-gazing. That lends itself to a

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coronation rather than an open leadership contest. Given that

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although the party has a very wide range of views, they will realise

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that actually they can coalesce around Nicola Sturgeon and she would

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be the best option. The yes movement gathered such momentum at times it

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felt like an army of foot soldiers were clamouring for independence.

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Many supported other parties. Polls suggest that just over 30% of Labour

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voters opted to say yes. That pits the SNP and a strong position as it

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looks to the general election next year and the Holyrood elections in

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2016. It is the Labour Party that has all the problems. The SNP have

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had this massive disappointment, which is emotional as much as

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anything, but as a party they can look forward to being the party of

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government for another generation. The Jews will dry and the SNP will

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move on and it seems that even in defeat they may be seeking out new

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victories -- the tears will dry. It seems clear that there really is

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only one serious contender to replace Alex Salmond. The rara

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number of experienced politicians among the SNP frontbenchers. However

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it does seem that the odds-on favourite is Nicola Sturgeon. My

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colleague has been looking at the apparent. I want you to give the

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warmest of welcomes to the First Minister up of our country, Alex

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Salmond. Nicola Sturgeon introducing her mentors. For the last ten years

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as leader and deputy they have been an impressive double act. She says

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that he has helped and guided her through a political career which

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started well lost you didn't act Glasgow University and soon saw her

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marked out as one to watch. I am convinced that if the SNP were in

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power in an independent Scotland it would be a thriving Scottish steel

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industry. By the end of that decade she was a member of the Scottish

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Parliament and campaigning hard to stay there. I confirm that Nicola

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Sturgeon has been duly elected as a member of the Govan constituency.

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Tonight, perseverance, hard work never say die spirit has paid off.

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She became Deputy First Minister and Health Secretary. She is ready for

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the top job say everyone who know her well. She's a ready-made

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successor, she has been outstanding as Deputy First Minister. She has

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got, in my observation, better and better and better, year in, year

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out. She has never stopped improving and I think she is absolutely ready,

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should she choose to do so. Married in 2010, by her own admission she is

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no domestic goddess. She is the next potential First Minister, that would

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send a very good message to women here who have worked with her. She

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is an impressive woman in that she has a really strong analytical,

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forensics mind and a real attention to detail. I think that is very

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important in the lead role. But she is also someone who cares very much

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about the people that she represents and the job that she doesn't want to

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do a good job. She is the kind of role model that you would want to

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have. -- and she wants to do a good job. In her south side constituency

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today, summon courage and for the future. Quite pleased to be honest.

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I think she has done great in this constituency and she is a natural

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successor to Alex Salmond. I think she would be great. I hope that she

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wouldn't she would make a good job of it. It is expected that Alex

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Salmond's successor would be determined by a leadership election.

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But at this stage anyway who would bet against it being Nicola

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Sturgeon, he may move into Bute house by the end of the year. -- who

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may. The world's media has been camped

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outside Holyrood for the past week. They are now packing up, but for

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Scotland the story continues. How will those powers be delivered? A

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number of yes supporters remain outside the parliament singing very

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peacefully, as they have done for the last few days. As Alex Salmond

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fitted yesterday, for some the dream will never die -- put it yesterday.

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The former SNP member for our gale Ian McCormack has died. -- Argyll.

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He would have been 75 next week. Police say they expect to make

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further arrest is following disturbances overnight in the city

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of Glasgow. 11 people were arrested after clashes in the city's George

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Square. Our reporter is there for us this evening. What more can you tell

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us about what happened? You can see that there is a very heavy police

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presence here. There are police vans around the square and you can see

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officers in high visibility vest. But the atmosphere today has been

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very different from the one last night. Today the only gathering that

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I have seen is the one behind me, our protest for peace. Underneath

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those flags over there, people who have been attending that meeting

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have set up an impromptu food bank. Yesterday independence campaigners

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were having a party celebrating Glasgow voting yes to independence.

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But then some people with union Jack flags came along and there was

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trouble. Glasgow was one of the four local

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authorities in Scotland to vote yes. Some campaigners dubbed it

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independence square. But the scenes turned ugly. People waving union

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flags charged into the square and a flea was fired. -- flare was fired.

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This SNP councillor addressed the peace gathering today. People will

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get this now matter how they voted and say that that was a disgrace. He

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was subjected to abuse yesterday and filmed it on his phone. We have to

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make sure that everyone unites and tell people that this is

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unacceptable behaviour. Myself and every councillor in that building,

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every MSP, MP, they all have to see it is unacceptable. Wanted people in

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George Square today think of what happened last night? They were just

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idiots. The one night that the world's media is in town and we make

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a fool of herself. It's embarrassing. It is a disgrace. It

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sends out a bad message, if I am being honest. It boots and negative

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slant on the whole process we have just gone through. Perhaps mixed

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messages from different sides, I do not know who was to blame. Police

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say that they have already secured valuable CCTV and other evidence and

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they are confident that there will be further arrest in the coming

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days. Police say that if you were involved in criminality last night

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then you will be identified and you will be arrested. The atmosphere

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tonight is very good-humoured that there are a lot of police around.

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A movement of grassroots activism and community

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engagement, often among people who had never been involved with

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politics before, grew up around the campaign for independence.

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But what happens now to all that newly invigorated activism?

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Here's our political correspondent, Lucy Adams.

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There was so much hope and so much activity on the ground. For many it

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was the grassroots activists who elevated the campaign beyond the

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question on the ballot paper. The yes movement in the referendum has

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been one of the most inspiring things that I have witnessed in my

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life, and you see all of these various different autonomous groups

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that sprung up, sometimes very locally, sometimes to do with the

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culture or their trade or whatever, and they were across all of Scottish

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public life and it was a remarkable upsurge of political engagement and

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conversations. Grass roots campaigners have created yes grips

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for almost every profession, political persuasion and party. They

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have real weak and democratic engagement. But where does all of

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that energy go now? It was people in working-class communities. It was us

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that came out and went to vote and voted for change. That is what all

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of the breakdowns are showing. It would working-class people that

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voted for change and you cannot put that back in the bottle. You cannot

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allow that to dissipate. There is still a momentum there. We are going

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to keep going for it. As the results came in on Friday morning some of

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that energy fizzled out. But the record turnout levels were

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attributed to the ground campaign and many of the groups say that the

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ins and activism will remain. Some of them may change their names, they

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will stay together, most of them well. There will be some so

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disillusioned that they will not, but I hope that they do stay

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together and the ideas that they continue to advocate for, it is

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radical change that people want and holding the political class

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accountable. But now the vote is cast. The morning after is past. It

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is over to the guardians of this new activism as to whether it will

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continue. As we know, it's Lord Smith

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of Kelvin who will chair the new devolution commission aimed

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at delivering more powers to the He has until the start of next year

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to get consensus from all Apart from being the man who headed

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up this summer's Commonwealth Games, Having breathed a huge sigh of

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relief, David Cameron emerged yesterday to reiterate a promise of

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more powers for Scotland. I will announce today that Lord Smith of

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Kelvin, who so successfully led Glasgow's Commonwealth Games, has

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agreed to take over the process to honour these commitments.

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This, as you have probably heard, is a special claim to be in Glasgow. He

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was tasked with making it special. Can the man who lit up Scotland for

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the coming together of the Commonwealth bring together parties

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of a different kind? When David Cameron spoke to me about this last

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week I said, are you people sincere across all of the UK political

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parties about doing something here? He said yes and I am taking that at

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face value. If I know that I have that backing then I will deliver. A

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former director of the Bank of Scotland, here's the current

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chairman of Scottish Southern Energy. An order of the Thistle,

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here's also Chancellor of the University of Strathclyde. The right

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man for the job? I am not commenting other than to say that he did a

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great job on the Commonwealth Games. The timetable is somewhat ambitious.

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He will oversee the paper which will be cat giving Scotland more powers

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over tax, spending and welfare. From the defeated, however, warning.

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Scotland will expect these to be honoured and rapid course. Scotland

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expects, and with the clock ticking, Holyrood weights. -- awaits.

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And some football results from today.

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Ayr Gold Cup today. Jockey James Doyle won on Louie The Pious, at

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odds of ten to one. Amy Ryan was hoping to become the first female

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jockey to win Scotland's top flat race on the favourite, Blaine. But

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she came in third, behind Mon a Lisa.

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If we take a look at the satellite picture we can see what happened.

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The rain in the central belt pushed it through further south. Those

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clear skies will mean that it will be turning rather chilly tonight.

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The cold front is well away from us. I pressure working its way in. Some

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sunshine around at the moment, a lovely sunset for many. Those clear

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skies will mean that it will be quite cold. One or two light showers

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around. They're in mind -- bear in mind that temperatures have been

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getting lower than 13 or 14 degrees. Towns and cities will be seven or 8

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degrees. It could be cold in the rural parts. A cold, crisp, autumnal

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morning tomorrow. Any mist quickly lifting and the deer head dry and

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bright one, quite pleasant. -- the day ahead. With very little wind,

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fuelling pleasant indeed. Perhaps a little more in the way of cloud in

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the north. Perhaps the chance of one or two very light spots of rain

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here, but generally it is try and break the chance of one or two very

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light spots of rain here, but generally it is a dry and bright day

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for most. As we had to the latter stages of the afternoon into the

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evening, again some sunshine but there will be a touch of frost and

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places. As we head towards Monday, this weather front will be out in

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the Atlantic working its way in. Wishing the Atlantic pressure out of

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the way. -- pushing. As we head towards lunch time and the

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afternoon, cloud thickening in the Northwest. Outbreaks of rain for the

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Western Isles. Like twins from the south and south-west. That is the

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forecast for now. That is all for now. I will be back

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tonight with the wheat bulletin after the ten o'clock news. From

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everyone in the team, good evening. Good evening. I think tomorrow

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should be a good day for getting out and about wherever you are. Sunny

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spells becoming more widespread for Sunday.

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