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A row at Holyrood tonight, as Labour claim the Government
was saved from defeat because Kezia Dugdale's
A financial watchdog says Scotland's social work system
is "unsustainable" and needs hundreds of millions of pounds
Calls for the UK Government to intervene after four merchant
navy cadets from Scotland are stranded on a cargo
It obviously adds to the worry, the area they are in is a piracy risk
area. The row over the way crofters
in the Western Isles were stripped of the right to run
their own affairs. And, how the songs of Robbie Burns
were intended to be performed. Labour are calling for
a full investigation to demand why their leader's vote
wasn't counted in a Holyrood vote which resulted in saving
the Scottish Government from defeat. In a bizarre turn of events,
a vote after a debate on council tax reforms was tied at 63-63,
and the presiding officer had There were no abstentions. As the
vote is tied, and the parliament is unable to reach a view on the
motion, I have two exercise my casting vote. In line with the
approach taken by my predecessors outlined by members in a recent
letter, I will cast against the motion. The motion is therefore not
agreed. Our Political Correspondent Andrew
Kerr is at Holyrood for us now. Andrew, bit of a stushie
at Parliament tonight? What's it all about? Yes, indeed a
day of high drama after a pedestrian start to afternoon. MSPs were
debating council tax reform. Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dems were
very critical of the SNP because they had previously promised to
abolish council tax. MSPs were debating that. The Conservatives
critical, too, of the Scottish Government, saying they are taking
money away from local authorities to pay for an attainment fun. So a
Conservative amendment was backed 64-63, defeating the Government.
Then it came to the final vote. As you saw, the Presiding Officer
reading out 63-63. Where was the missing MSP? Some of the pictures
you can hopefully see the Labour leader Kezia Dugdale was quite
clearly in the Scottish Parliament and voting. She had voted on the
previous votes beside the former Labour leader in green. So it came
to the final result, the Poseidon officer had to use as casting vote.
It meant the Government was saved from defeat, but Labour were furious
and are demanding a full investigation. Here is the leader,
Kezia Dugdale. I categorically voted in the Parliament alike. I know
that, my colleague Iain Gray was by my side and saw the vote registered
on the parliamentary computer. We have to know from the Parliament why
my vote was not registered. This is serious because the SNP made a
promise to the people of Scotland, they said they would scrap the
council tax. What are the other party saying? I think there is a bit
of anger and frustration in a way that the other opposition parties
were not able to defeat the Government tonight. A sigh of relief
from the Scottish Government, I expect. The SNP put out a press
release, a statement like saying Kezia Dugdale was the lone ranger
taking autonomy to a Lovell -- a statement tonight. A date at the
changes the party making. In terms of Labour calling for the full
investigation into what happened, the Presiding Officer and some
senior officials were pretty quick back into the chamber to check the
voting system. They released a statement like to say, we have
checked the voting consoles in the chamber, we are satisfied the system
is working properly. So, it gets curiouser and curiouser. The wider
point is that with the numbers in Parliament now this is the sort of
thing we are likely to see more and more of. Yes, taking away the drama
on the oddity of what happened here this afternoon. This is the kind of
thing we can expect much more. The Scottish Government really walking
the tightrope, returned back in May after not winning a majority once
again. As I say, a sigh of relief from the Government. The opposition
will have to regroup and come back and try to defeat the Government at
another opportunity. Andrew Taylor in Holyrood, thank you.
Now, the way some of our most vulnerable people are cared
for needs to change to stop costs getting out of control.
That's according to the public spending watchdog.
Otherwise, nearly ?700 million will need to be found to pay
for social work and social care by 2020.
The report begs important questions over just what sort of services
should be provided - and who should be providing them.
Our Local Government Correspondent Jamie McIvor is here.
Social work is one of the biggest council services, and according
to the spending watchdog, it's at a watershed.
If things don't change, a huge amount of extra money
Our 32 councils spend more than ?3 billion
That money helps about 300,000 people a year -
The bill's set to go up for several reasons.
And the fact people are living longer.
But the watchdog makes the point that this debate should be
What sort of services do we actually need?
How did you find going on holiday? Much better this time. Karen is one
of Scotland's's army of unpaid carers. She gets a lot of help from
charity worker Susan. Karen's partner is diagnosed with a form of
dementia. It made huge changes to his life. He went into the doctors
office as a working man, and left as a man who is no longer able to work.
The practical help Karen is receiving makes a huge difference.
Even a advice on household goods that are suitable for people with
dementia. It is for everybody. It all means social services do not
need to get involved, at a cost of the taxpayer. People support them,
to maintain their own confidence as to how they can live. We can support
families, friends and individuals. This all highlights a very big
debate - just what sort of social services can the taxpayer ruler
sickly afford. Are elderly people are consuming more of the social
work budget, the demand in the system, demographic change,
highlighted the fact there is not enough money, it is making things
very difficult. But it is hard to divorce this debate about what is
best to those who need help from simple questions of saving cash.
This led to fierce exchanges at Holyrood. And the truth is, the
accounts commission report tells us that overall spending is falling,
First Minister. In fact, it says that these cuts or unsustainable.
And the truth is, they do not have to happen. I'm only asking because
And the truth is, they do not have Sturgeon to do what she has wanted
to do her retire political life, make different choices from the
Tories -- her entire. I would ask her to reflect on the position she
and her party are in. She stands up regularly and says that the future
looks to be a Tory future in terms of the Westminster government, and
yet she has got the nerve to come here and lecture me about the
implications of Tory cuts that her party are powerless to do anything
about. One important thing the Scottish Government has been doing
is integrating health and social care.
The Government says it;s committed over half-a-billion pounds to make
The hope is that could lead to better services and better value.
But critics point to that pressure on council budgets.
One thing is certain from the report - the status quo isn't an option.
The Foreign Office has been urged to intervene to rescue four Scots
merchant navy cadets stranded on a cargo ship in an area
of South-East Asia known for pirate attacks.
The owners of the shipping line have gone bust, and are refusing
to allow their vessels into port to prevent them being impounded.
But the families of the trainees have called for the UK Government
This is 22-year-old Rory Hamilton from Inverness, training for a
career as a merchant Navy officer. But after months of seeing the world
and living the dream, he and three pals from Scotland have been plunged
into a nightmare. With the giant South Korean hand in shipping
company now in receivership, the cadet's vessel has been anchored 40
miles of Singapore with no clue as to when the crew might get off. They
have been told there was a possibility they would get off the
boat on Tuesday. There was a supply boat going into supply them. So the
boys at that point were very upbeat and very excited that they thought
they would be getting home. But that never happened. We don't know why.
But it never happened. The shipping firm will not let the ship dock for
fear it will be impounded. But the area that the boat is now anchored
in has been targeted by pirates in the past. And that has only deepened
the families' fears. It obviously adds to the worry. The area they are
in is a piracy risk area. So that brings a whole different outlook on
it, I guess. All four cadets on all Tudors at city of Glasgow College.
And they had been sent on placement with one of the world's largest
container shipping operations through a recruitment and training
firm. Today they said they were in close contact with the families and
the cadets, whose well-being was of the most priority. They said they
would offer any assistance to assure their return home as soon as
possible. The issue has also been raised that Westminster. What I
would like the UK Government to do is to intervene to get some kind of
deal to get first of all those cadets of the ship, and anybody else
who wants to get off the ship. It has emerged today that the shipping
company has had a new injection of cash to help stave off bankruptcy.
But the families here don't know how quickly that will resolve the
situation. And they just want their sons home.
Scotland's Independent Police Watchdog is to carry out a review
of undercover policing, after the UK Government refused
to extend an investigation currently underway in England and Wales.
The Scottish Government has asked the Inspector
of Constabulary to investigate, claiming there's evidence
that units from south of the border operated here.
There've been claims that some English officers worked undercover
with activists planning to disrupt the G8 meeting at Gleneagles
in 2005, and entered into sexual relations with some of them.
A man who was jailed for life for murdering a Glasgow shopkeeper
who he claimed had "disrespected" Islam has been given leave by judges
to appeal against his minimum 27-year jail term.
32-year-old Tanveer Ahmed, from Bradford in Yorkshire,
stabbed 40-year-old Asad Shah outside his store in
And in a separate development, messages from him, recorded
from Barlinnie Prison, have appeared on social media.
I'm joined by Reevel Alderson, our Home affairs Correspondent,
Take that second bit first, there are a number of postings on social
media of phone calls apparently made by Tanvir Ahmed from Barlinnie
prison. He was convicted last July of murdering Asad Shah. And these
messages appear to have been recorded on a landline phone,
possibly in his home in Bradford. In one of them you can hear children
playing in the background. The messages aren't Urdu, they appear in
social media with a still photograph of Tanvir Ahmed, and include phrases
such as, we should all try to make the world a better place, and I will
sacrifice myself. Police Scotland said in a statement it is aware of
these communications and will investigate. The Scottish Prison
Service has not commented, but it is known they would dog might do
routinely -- they routinely monitor phone calls. There is a recorded
message on the phone calls saying this is a message from within a
Scottish prison, and if you do not want to accept the message you can
put the phone down. You were talking about the appeal process. Tanvir
Ahmed is appealing against his sentence. He was sentenced to a
minimum of 27 years, he is saying that is too long. 27 years was
reduced from 30 because he pled guilty at the earliest possible
stage. He is saying apart from the length of the sentence being too
long, he wants a greater discount for making the guilty plea at the
early stage. We expect the appeal will probably be heard early next
early stage. We expect the appeal year. Thank you.
As part of our coverage of the political conference season,
we have another party leader interview for you.
Today it's new Ukip leader Diane James, who says that Brexit
inside the UK offers Scotland more powers than independence
She says the decision to leave the EU is a "win-win"
She's also come out firmly against a second Scottish
She's been speaking to our Westminster Correspondent,
Three months to the days since Britain, but not Scotland, voted for
Brexit, and the repercussions are still being felt. The game of
political musical chairs continues. She is now in charge. And he has
Leaving the Ukip crown to this woman Leaving the Ukip crown to this woman
- just over a week into her new post, Diane James is very clear
about what Brexit could mean for Scotland. What I am saying is that
by freeing itself from EU control, Scotland has a much, much more
positive future. Because then, in terms of how it manages its
finances, how it manages is economy, how it decides how it makes those
very, very important decisions in Scotland, it will do under
devolution powers granted out of Westminster, it will not be dictated
to and directed by legislation or directives coming out of Brussels
and Strasbourg. And on the key issue for many Scots, a second
independence referendum, what is her view? I would not supported. I
really would like to see Scotland B still part, and for the physio ball
future, for decades to come, be in the union with England. -- for the
foreseeable future. Nigel Farage did not always see eye to why with many
Scots. On one occasion being forced to seek sanctuary in an Edinburgh
pub to avoid protesters. His successor says she is keen to visit
Scotland soon, although a pub on the Royal mile is not necessarily on the
agenda. David Porter, Reporting Scotland, Westminster.
And we will bring you more party leader interviews
Including one with the new Labour leader, once they've
You're watching BBC Reporting Scotland.
Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale has failed to register
a vote at Holyrood - allowing the Scottish Government
to avoid a defeat on council tax reform.
Concrete modernism - the work of one of Scotland's most
respected - but least known - architects.
Scotland's rural affairs secretary Fergus Ewing has ordered
the government agency which regulates crofting
to apologise to crofters in the Western Isles,
after a row which saw them stripped of the right
The Crofters' Commission suspended two grazings
committees in Lewis, after complaints about
But many experts branded the moves as heavy handed and illegal.
It's often joked that they crofter is best described as the piece of
land surrounded by legislation. That is best described as the piece of
legislation has become the source of a bitter dispute after the public
body in charge of the sector sacked two committees made up of crofters
who managed shared land in the Western Isles. But the crofting
commission has incurred the Rath of the rural affairs Secretary Fergus
Ewing. He has board members to rescind their decisions and
apologise, an apology so far proven difficult to deliver. It was a
positive meeting, the first time we have met since he took up his post
on a number of matters. Clearly the issue of common grazing is a matter
we spoke about as well. We are both looking for a resolution to matters
outstanding. The commission argued that crofters running common grazing
land here and Lewis breached crofting law because of the way they
managed committee finances. But that was disputed by legal experts whose
views were backed by the Scottish Government. It's late in the day as
far as we're concerned. But still welcome. The government are taking a
proactive stance now and they need now to do much more as well. They
need to, in some way or other, regain the confidence and to
establish a regulator that we can trust. But with one crofting group
now reinstated and a review under way the crofting commission has
pledged to change the way it resolves such rows in future. There
are issues which the commission must learn from and where there are
debates within individual communities when one set of crofters
is unhappy with another set of crofters, then is there a way in
which a resolution can be found to that? There have been fresh course
today for the crofting commission's convenor Colin Kennedy to resign
over his handling of the dispute with a warning that peace cannot be
restored in Scotland's normally tranquil crofting communities until
there is a change at the top. Jackie O'Brien, Reporting Scotland,
Inverness. A Celtic fan is to stand trial,
charged with displaying an offensive banner and blow-up figures
at an Old Firm match. 27-year-old Ross Brady entered
a plea of not guilty at an appearance at Glasgow Sheriff
Court. Prosecutors claim he acted
with others in behaviour that might be likely
to "incite public disorder". Brady faces a single
charge under the Offensive The songs of Robert Burns are often
performed these days in a way that focuses on the words rather
than complex musical arrangements. But researchers at Glasgow
University have recorded some of his works as they would have been
performed in the 18th century. The result has more in common
with middle class Edinburgh drawing rooms than Dumfries drinking howffs,
as Aileen Clarke reports. It's Burns, but not as you know it.
This song doesn't sound half as bawdy in this very refined
18th-century arrangement. Burns, of course, wrote the lyrics using
traditional ears as the music. But when he submitted the songs to his
Edinburgh publishers well, those tunes were given a very classical
makeover. What we've never really appreciated is that most of those
songs, the vast majority of Burns's songs were collected or written for
two rather posh, published collections of songs. And because
they were part of an 18th-century musical culture they sound a bit
classical, they sound a bit fancy in comparison to the more, kind of,
songs on guitar or songs with fiddle or the more folk settings that a lot
of people appreciate. Burns, the 18th-century remix, has
been recorded and has been published in book form. The culmination of a
five year research project funded to the tune of ?1 million by the UK
arts fund. This would have sounded quite fancy
played on a drawing-room harpsichord and it has given this classical
musician involved in the recording is a new appreciation of the Bard.
I was quite surprised at the beginning of the project to learn of
composers such as Beethoven who have written musical settings for Burns's
poetry, burns's international reach is expanding all the time and able
to influence these men classical composers.
His appreciation of Burns came from her father in the musical Bill.
For him I think Burns worked better unaccompanied, or with a nice
setting that kind of, you know, brought out the nuances of the text.
But I'm sure he would have had a go. Burns for these collections were so
important that he gave his songs for free. Burns, of course, is warmly
regarded as the people's poet. But it's clear that he himself was also
keen to be celebrated in the smart drawing rooms of Edinburgh in a
style that echoed that of his artistic peers. But as he would have
said himself a man's Dame Ann for all that. Aileen Clarke, Reporting
Scotland, Glasgow. The English Football League has
closed the door on the possibility of Scottish teams being part
of their expansion plans. Clubs have been in discussions
for some time about the possibility of creating more leagues
in England in a bid to ease Talks were seen as a possible way
into the lucrative market for Scottish clubs
like Celtic and Rangers. But members decided today that no
clubs outside the English system should be allowed
into any new set-up. He may not be as well known
as Charles Rennie Mackintosh, or his great influence,
Frank Lloyd Wright. But the architect Peter Womersley
has a passionate following - not least in Scotland,
where he worked for a number of years and where many of his
buildings still stand. Now there's to be a celebration
of his work - part of the festival of architecture and design -
to bring his work Our arts correspondent
Pauline McLean reports. Across the spotted borders and
beyond you'll find a distinctive style of Peter Womersley. Strongly
influenced by the American architect Frank Lloyd Wright his modernist
concrete buildings are instantly recognisable. But it was this family
home near Selkirk, one of his first commissions for the designer Bernard
Klein which brought him to Scotland and his friendship with the client's
which kept him here. I was rather annoyed that I didn't live in a sort
of Victorian house like all my friends did. They seemed far more
interesting to me when I was little. It's only now I appreciate how
beautiful this building is. And she's not alone. Peter Womersley's
work is admired the world over. A symposium next week, part of the
Festival of architecture and design, will also include a tour of his
buildings in Scotland. But it's not just students of
architecture who admire Peter Womersley's work. One of his most
iconic structures is right here in the middle of Galashiels and every
weekend it is filled with fans. Some people think it is something
resembling the Soviet Union in the 1960s. But then again we get visits
from architects just spontaneously turning up at the ground and from
football supporters the length and breadth of the country just wanting
to see, to be realistic what is an iconic football grandstand. And it's
that everyday appeal fans of his work hope to harness with a touring
exhibition. Peter Womersley is more of an acquired taste and it may take
some time. I don't think he will ever quite, unfortunately, reached
the heights of Mackintosh devotion, but actually getting people to
understand a bit more. I think you will get so much more out of it.
Pauline McLean, Reporting Scotland, Galashiels.
And its time for the weather now with Kirsteen.
Today marks the autumn equinox and we've had fine conditions across the
country, really lovely weather with plenty of brightness and sunshine.
The next couple of days, however, some distinctly unsettled conditions
on the way. Even this evening we will continue to see heavy and
thundery showers piling in across the Western Isles, western coastal
areas and the showers will gradually track eastwards before clearing
during the second half of the night to leave much drier and clearer
conditions behind them, and quite a chilly night to come once again for
sheltered, rural areas especially, with perhaps a touch of frost. For
the most part in the towns and cities temperatures hold up around
7-9dC. A fine if chilly start tomorrow across much of the country,
plenty of sunshine around. That will be fairly short lived, cloud
continuing to spill in from the west during the
course of the day and we will have some rain and strengthening winds
especially across the Northwest. Tomorrow afternoon across much of
southern, central and eastern Scotland we hold onto largely dry
conditions, perhaps some brightness at times. Some persistent at times
heavy rain affecting the likes of Argyll and much of the north-west
Highlands, the Western Isles and Sutherland too, the rain accompanied
by strengthening winds, and we hold onto dry weather in the north-east
tomorrow afternoon. In these areas the Northern Isles will feel best in
terms of any brightness and sunshine. Tomorrow evening cloud
will continue to increase. That rain will spill across the country, most
heavy and persistent in the north and west and the winds will increase
further reaching gale force on coastal areas and the Northern
Isles. As we head into Saturday we hold onto wet and windy weather
across much of the country. Early yellow warning in force from the Met
Office, and risk of localised flooding and hazardous driving
conditions. The winds will only gradually ease through the data.
Sunday will bring some sunshine and a lot of showers. That the forecast.
I'll be back with the headlines at 8pm - and the late bulletin just
Until then, from everyone on the team - right