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A row at Holyrood tonight, as Labour claim the Government


was saved from defeat because Kezia Dugdale's


A financial watchdog says Scotland's social work system


is "unsustainable" and needs hundreds of millions of pounds


Calls for the UK Government to intervene after four merchant


navy cadets from Scotland are stranded on a cargo


It obviously adds to the worry, the area they are in is a piracy risk


area. The row over the way crofters


in the Western Isles were stripped of the right to run


their own affairs. And, how the songs of Robbie Burns


were intended to be performed. Labour are calling for


a full investigation to demand why their leader's vote


wasn't counted in a Holyrood vote which resulted in saving


the Scottish Government from defeat. In a bizarre turn of events,


a vote after a debate on council tax reforms was tied at 63-63,


and the presiding officer had There were no abstentions. As the


vote is tied, and the parliament is unable to reach a view on the


motion, I have two exercise my casting vote. In line with the


approach taken by my predecessors outlined by members in a recent


letter, I will cast against the motion. The motion is therefore not


agreed. Our Political Correspondent Andrew


Kerr is at Holyrood for us now. Andrew, bit of a stushie


at Parliament tonight? What's it all about? Yes, indeed a


day of high drama after a pedestrian start to afternoon. MSPs were


debating council tax reform. Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dems were


very critical of the SNP because they had previously promised to


abolish council tax. MSPs were debating that. The Conservatives


critical, too, of the Scottish Government, saying they are taking


money away from local authorities to pay for an attainment fun. So a


Conservative amendment was backed 64-63, defeating the Government.


Then it came to the final vote. As you saw, the Presiding Officer


reading out 63-63. Where was the missing MSP? Some of the pictures


you can hopefully see the Labour leader Kezia Dugdale was quite


clearly in the Scottish Parliament and voting. She had voted on the


previous votes beside the former Labour leader in green. So it came


to the final result, the Poseidon officer had to use as casting vote.


It meant the Government was saved from defeat, but Labour were furious


and are demanding a full investigation. Here is the leader,


Kezia Dugdale. I categorically voted in the Parliament alike. I know


that, my colleague Iain Gray was by my side and saw the vote registered


on the parliamentary computer. We have to know from the Parliament why


my vote was not registered. This is serious because the SNP made a


promise to the people of Scotland, they said they would scrap the


council tax. What are the other party saying? I think there is a bit


of anger and frustration in a way that the other opposition parties


were not able to defeat the Government tonight. A sigh of relief


from the Scottish Government, I expect. The SNP put out a press


release, a statement like saying Kezia Dugdale was the lone ranger


taking autonomy to a Lovell -- a statement tonight. A date at the


changes the party making. In terms of Labour calling for the full


investigation into what happened, the Presiding Officer and some


senior officials were pretty quick back into the chamber to check the


voting system. They released a statement like to say, we have


checked the voting consoles in the chamber, we are satisfied the system


is working properly. So, it gets curiouser and curiouser. The wider


point is that with the numbers in Parliament now this is the sort of


thing we are likely to see more and more of. Yes, taking away the drama


on the oddity of what happened here this afternoon. This is the kind of


thing we can expect much more. The Scottish Government really walking


the tightrope, returned back in May after not winning a majority once


again. As I say, a sigh of relief from the Government. The opposition


will have to regroup and come back and try to defeat the Government at


another opportunity. Andrew Taylor in Holyrood, thank you.


Now, the way some of our most vulnerable people are cared


for needs to change to stop costs getting out of control.


That's according to the public spending watchdog.


Otherwise, nearly ?700 million will need to be found to pay


for social work and social care by 2020.


The report begs important questions over just what sort of services


should be provided - and who should be providing them.


Our Local Government Correspondent Jamie McIvor is here.


Social work is one of the biggest council services, and according


to the spending watchdog, it's at a watershed.


If things don't change, a huge amount of extra money


Our 32 councils spend more than ?3 billion


That money helps about 300,000 people a year -


The bill's set to go up for several reasons.


And the fact people are living longer.


But the watchdog makes the point that this debate should be


What sort of services do we actually need?


How did you find going on holiday? Much better this time. Karen is one


of Scotland's's army of unpaid carers. She gets a lot of help from


charity worker Susan. Karen's partner is diagnosed with a form of


dementia. It made huge changes to his life. He went into the doctors


office as a working man, and left as a man who is no longer able to work.


The practical help Karen is receiving makes a huge difference.


Even a advice on household goods that are suitable for people with


dementia. It is for everybody. It all means social services do not


need to get involved, at a cost of the taxpayer. People support them,


to maintain their own confidence as to how they can live. We can support


families, friends and individuals. This all highlights a very big


debate - just what sort of social services can the taxpayer ruler


sickly afford. Are elderly people are consuming more of the social


work budget, the demand in the system, demographic change,


highlighted the fact there is not enough money, it is making things


very difficult. But it is hard to divorce this debate about what is


best to those who need help from simple questions of saving cash.


This led to fierce exchanges at Holyrood. And the truth is, the


accounts commission report tells us that overall spending is falling,


First Minister. In fact, it says that these cuts or unsustainable.


And the truth is, they do not have to happen. I'm only asking because


And the truth is, they do not have Sturgeon to do what she has wanted


to do her retire political life, make different choices from the


Tories -- her entire. I would ask her to reflect on the position she


and her party are in. She stands up regularly and says that the future


looks to be a Tory future in terms of the Westminster government, and


yet she has got the nerve to come here and lecture me about the


implications of Tory cuts that her party are powerless to do anything


about. One important thing the Scottish Government has been doing


is integrating health and social care.


The Government says it;s committed over half-a-billion pounds to make


The hope is that could lead to better services and better value.


But critics point to that pressure on council budgets.


One thing is certain from the report - the status quo isn't an option.


The Foreign Office has been urged to intervene to rescue four Scots


merchant navy cadets stranded on a cargo ship in an area


of South-East Asia known for pirate attacks.


The owners of the shipping line have gone bust, and are refusing


to allow their vessels into port to prevent them being impounded.


But the families of the trainees have called for the UK Government


This is 22-year-old Rory Hamilton from Inverness, training for a


career as a merchant Navy officer. But after months of seeing the world


and living the dream, he and three pals from Scotland have been plunged


into a nightmare. With the giant South Korean hand in shipping


company now in receivership, the cadet's vessel has been anchored 40


miles of Singapore with no clue as to when the crew might get off. They


have been told there was a possibility they would get off the


boat on Tuesday. There was a supply boat going into supply them. So the


boys at that point were very upbeat and very excited that they thought


they would be getting home. But that never happened. We don't know why.


But it never happened. The shipping firm will not let the ship dock for


fear it will be impounded. But the area that the boat is now anchored


in has been targeted by pirates in the past. And that has only deepened


the families' fears. It obviously adds to the worry. The area they are


in is a piracy risk area. So that brings a whole different outlook on


it, I guess. All four cadets on all Tudors at city of Glasgow College.


And they had been sent on placement with one of the world's largest


container shipping operations through a recruitment and training


firm. Today they said they were in close contact with the families and


the cadets, whose well-being was of the most priority. They said they


would offer any assistance to assure their return home as soon as


possible. The issue has also been raised that Westminster. What I


would like the UK Government to do is to intervene to get some kind of


deal to get first of all those cadets of the ship, and anybody else


who wants to get off the ship. It has emerged today that the shipping


company has had a new injection of cash to help stave off bankruptcy.


But the families here don't know how quickly that will resolve the


situation. And they just want their sons home.


Scotland's Independent Police Watchdog is to carry out a review


of undercover policing, after the UK Government refused


to extend an investigation currently underway in England and Wales.


The Scottish Government has asked the Inspector


of Constabulary to investigate, claiming there's evidence


that units from south of the border operated here.


There've been claims that some English officers worked undercover


with activists planning to disrupt the G8 meeting at Gleneagles


in 2005, and entered into sexual relations with some of them.


A man who was jailed for life for murdering a Glasgow shopkeeper


who he claimed had "disrespected" Islam has been given leave by judges


to appeal against his minimum 27-year jail term.


32-year-old Tanveer Ahmed, from Bradford in Yorkshire,


stabbed 40-year-old Asad Shah outside his store in


And in a separate development, messages from him, recorded


from Barlinnie Prison, have appeared on social media.


I'm joined by Reevel Alderson, our Home affairs Correspondent,


Take that second bit first, there are a number of postings on social


media of phone calls apparently made by Tanvir Ahmed from Barlinnie


prison. He was convicted last July of murdering Asad Shah. And these


messages appear to have been recorded on a landline phone,


possibly in his home in Bradford. In one of them you can hear children


playing in the background. The messages aren't Urdu, they appear in


social media with a still photograph of Tanvir Ahmed, and include phrases


such as, we should all try to make the world a better place, and I will


sacrifice myself. Police Scotland said in a statement it is aware of


these communications and will investigate. The Scottish Prison


Service has not commented, but it is known they would dog might do


routinely -- they routinely monitor phone calls. There is a recorded


message on the phone calls saying this is a message from within a


Scottish prison, and if you do not want to accept the message you can


put the phone down. You were talking about the appeal process. Tanvir


Ahmed is appealing against his sentence. He was sentenced to a


minimum of 27 years, he is saying that is too long. 27 years was


reduced from 30 because he pled guilty at the earliest possible


stage. He is saying apart from the length of the sentence being too


long, he wants a greater discount for making the guilty plea at the


early stage. We expect the appeal will probably be heard early next


early stage. We expect the appeal year. Thank you.


As part of our coverage of the political conference season,


we have another party leader interview for you.


Today it's new Ukip leader Diane James, who says that Brexit


inside the UK offers Scotland more powers than independence


She says the decision to leave the EU is a "win-win"


She's also come out firmly against a second Scottish


She's been speaking to our Westminster Correspondent,


Three months to the days since Britain, but not Scotland, voted for


Brexit, and the repercussions are still being felt. The game of


political musical chairs continues. She is now in charge. And he has


Leaving the Ukip crown to this woman Leaving the Ukip crown to this woman


- just over a week into her new post, Diane James is very clear


about what Brexit could mean for Scotland. What I am saying is that


by freeing itself from EU control, Scotland has a much, much more


positive future. Because then, in terms of how it manages its


finances, how it manages is economy, how it decides how it makes those


very, very important decisions in Scotland, it will do under


devolution powers granted out of Westminster, it will not be dictated


to and directed by legislation or directives coming out of Brussels


and Strasbourg. And on the key issue for many Scots, a second


independence referendum, what is her view? I would not supported. I


really would like to see Scotland B still part, and for the physio ball


future, for decades to come, be in the union with England. -- for the


foreseeable future. Nigel Farage did not always see eye to why with many


Scots. On one occasion being forced to seek sanctuary in an Edinburgh


pub to avoid protesters. His successor says she is keen to visit


Scotland soon, although a pub on the Royal mile is not necessarily on the


agenda. David Porter, Reporting Scotland, Westminster.


And we will bring you more party leader interviews


Including one with the new Labour leader, once they've


You're watching BBC Reporting Scotland.


Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale has failed to register


a vote at Holyrood - allowing the Scottish Government


to avoid a defeat on council tax reform.


Concrete modernism - the work of one of Scotland's most


respected - but least known - architects.


Scotland's rural affairs secretary Fergus Ewing has ordered


the government agency which regulates crofting


to apologise to crofters in the Western Isles,


after a row which saw them stripped of the right


The Crofters' Commission suspended two grazings


committees in Lewis, after complaints about


But many experts branded the moves as heavy handed and illegal.


It's often joked that they crofter is best described as the piece of


land surrounded by legislation. That is best described as the piece of


legislation has become the source of a bitter dispute after the public


body in charge of the sector sacked two committees made up of crofters


who managed shared land in the Western Isles. But the crofting


commission has incurred the Rath of the rural affairs Secretary Fergus


Ewing. He has board members to rescind their decisions and


apologise, an apology so far proven difficult to deliver. It was a


positive meeting, the first time we have met since he took up his post


on a number of matters. Clearly the issue of common grazing is a matter


we spoke about as well. We are both looking for a resolution to matters


outstanding. The commission argued that crofters running common grazing


land here and Lewis breached crofting law because of the way they


managed committee finances. But that was disputed by legal experts whose


views were backed by the Scottish Government. It's late in the day as


far as we're concerned. But still welcome. The government are taking a


proactive stance now and they need now to do much more as well. They


need to, in some way or other, regain the confidence and to


establish a regulator that we can trust. But with one crofting group


now reinstated and a review under way the crofting commission has


pledged to change the way it resolves such rows in future. There


are issues which the commission must learn from and where there are


debates within individual communities when one set of crofters


is unhappy with another set of crofters, then is there a way in


which a resolution can be found to that? There have been fresh course


today for the crofting commission's convenor Colin Kennedy to resign


over his handling of the dispute with a warning that peace cannot be


restored in Scotland's normally tranquil crofting communities until


there is a change at the top. Jackie O'Brien, Reporting Scotland,


Inverness. A Celtic fan is to stand trial,


charged with displaying an offensive banner and blow-up figures


at an Old Firm match. 27-year-old Ross Brady entered


a plea of not guilty at an appearance at Glasgow Sheriff


Court. Prosecutors claim he acted


with others in behaviour that might be likely


to "incite public disorder". Brady faces a single


charge under the Offensive The songs of Robert Burns are often


performed these days in a way that focuses on the words rather


than complex musical arrangements. But researchers at Glasgow


University have recorded some of his works as they would have been


performed in the 18th century. The result has more in common


with middle class Edinburgh drawing rooms than Dumfries drinking howffs,


as Aileen Clarke reports. It's Burns, but not as you know it.


This song doesn't sound half as bawdy in this very refined


18th-century arrangement. Burns, of course, wrote the lyrics using


traditional ears as the music. But when he submitted the songs to his


Edinburgh publishers well, those tunes were given a very classical


makeover. What we've never really appreciated is that most of those


songs, the vast majority of Burns's songs were collected or written for


two rather posh, published collections of songs. And because


they were part of an 18th-century musical culture they sound a bit


classical, they sound a bit fancy in comparison to the more, kind of,


songs on guitar or songs with fiddle or the more folk settings that a lot


of people appreciate. Burns, the 18th-century remix, has


been recorded and has been published in book form. The culmination of a


five year research project funded to the tune of ?1 million by the UK


arts fund. This would have sounded quite fancy


played on a drawing-room harpsichord and it has given this classical


musician involved in the recording is a new appreciation of the Bard.


I was quite surprised at the beginning of the project to learn of


composers such as Beethoven who have written musical settings for Burns's


poetry, burns's international reach is expanding all the time and able


to influence these men classical composers.


His appreciation of Burns came from her father in the musical Bill.


For him I think Burns worked better unaccompanied, or with a nice


setting that kind of, you know, brought out the nuances of the text.


But I'm sure he would have had a go. Burns for these collections were so


important that he gave his songs for free. Burns, of course, is warmly


regarded as the people's poet. But it's clear that he himself was also


keen to be celebrated in the smart drawing rooms of Edinburgh in a


style that echoed that of his artistic peers. But as he would have


said himself a man's Dame Ann for all that. Aileen Clarke, Reporting


Scotland, Glasgow. The English Football League has


closed the door on the possibility of Scottish teams being part


of their expansion plans. Clubs have been in discussions


for some time about the possibility of creating more leagues


in England in a bid to ease Talks were seen as a possible way


into the lucrative market for Scottish clubs


like Celtic and Rangers. But members decided today that no


clubs outside the English system should be allowed


into any new set-up. He may not be as well known


as Charles Rennie Mackintosh, or his great influence,


Frank Lloyd Wright. But the architect Peter Womersley


has a passionate following - not least in Scotland,


where he worked for a number of years and where many of his


buildings still stand. Now there's to be a celebration


of his work - part of the festival of architecture and design -


to bring his work Our arts correspondent


Pauline McLean reports. Across the spotted borders and


beyond you'll find a distinctive style of Peter Womersley. Strongly


influenced by the American architect Frank Lloyd Wright his modernist


concrete buildings are instantly recognisable. But it was this family


home near Selkirk, one of his first commissions for the designer Bernard


Klein which brought him to Scotland and his friendship with the client's


which kept him here. I was rather annoyed that I didn't live in a sort


of Victorian house like all my friends did. They seemed far more


interesting to me when I was little. It's only now I appreciate how


beautiful this building is. And she's not alone. Peter Womersley's


work is admired the world over. A symposium next week, part of the


Festival of architecture and design, will also include a tour of his


buildings in Scotland. But it's not just students of


architecture who admire Peter Womersley's work. One of his most


iconic structures is right here in the middle of Galashiels and every


weekend it is filled with fans. Some people think it is something


resembling the Soviet Union in the 1960s. But then again we get visits


from architects just spontaneously turning up at the ground and from


football supporters the length and breadth of the country just wanting


to see, to be realistic what is an iconic football grandstand. And it's


that everyday appeal fans of his work hope to harness with a touring


exhibition. Peter Womersley is more of an acquired taste and it may take


some time. I don't think he will ever quite, unfortunately, reached


the heights of Mackintosh devotion, but actually getting people to


understand a bit more. I think you will get so much more out of it.


Pauline McLean, Reporting Scotland, Galashiels.


And its time for the weather now with Kirsteen.


Today marks the autumn equinox and we've had fine conditions across the


country, really lovely weather with plenty of brightness and sunshine.


The next couple of days, however, some distinctly unsettled conditions


on the way. Even this evening we will continue to see heavy and


thundery showers piling in across the Western Isles, western coastal


areas and the showers will gradually track eastwards before clearing


during the second half of the night to leave much drier and clearer


conditions behind them, and quite a chilly night to come once again for


sheltered, rural areas especially, with perhaps a touch of frost. For


the most part in the towns and cities temperatures hold up around


7-9dC. A fine if chilly start tomorrow across much of the country,


plenty of sunshine around. That will be fairly short lived, cloud


continuing to spill in from the west during the


course of the day and we will have some rain and strengthening winds


especially across the Northwest. Tomorrow afternoon across much of


southern, central and eastern Scotland we hold onto largely dry


conditions, perhaps some brightness at times. Some persistent at times


heavy rain affecting the likes of Argyll and much of the north-west


Highlands, the Western Isles and Sutherland too, the rain accompanied


by strengthening winds, and we hold onto dry weather in the north-east


tomorrow afternoon. In these areas the Northern Isles will feel best in


terms of any brightness and sunshine. Tomorrow evening cloud


will continue to increase. That rain will spill across the country, most


heavy and persistent in the north and west and the winds will increase


further reaching gale force on coastal areas and the Northern


Isles. As we head into Saturday we hold onto wet and windy weather


across much of the country. Early yellow warning in force from the Met


Office, and risk of localised flooding and hazardous driving


conditions. The winds will only gradually ease through the data.


Sunday will bring some sunshine and a lot of showers. That the forecast.


I'll be back with the headlines at 8pm - and the late bulletin just


Until then, from everyone on the team - right


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