22/05/2017 Reporting Scotland


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Here on BBC One, it's time for the news where you are.


On Election Reporting Scotland tonight:


Scottish Labour launch their manifesto with a cast-iron


I see like a marriage on the salary I have. I have two go to food banks.


I aim nurse who can manage. -- can't.


And the nurse who took Nicola Sturgeon to task in last


night's TV debate gets an apology on social media.


Monday's almost over but not before your nightly helping


of everything you need to know from today on the election


Another day, another manifesto launch.


Today, it was the turn of Scottish Labour to launch


their vision for the country and this one hadn't even been leaked.


Our political editor Brian Taylor reports.


Kezia Dugdale concedes pulls apparently pointed to a UK


Conservative victory while insisting she is fighting to install Jeremy


Corbyn in Downing Street. She told cheering supporters she deplores the


Conservative approach to pensioners and benefits, including the revised


offer on social care in England. The Tories are standing in this election


on a miserable and mean manifesto that will take our country backwards


and he went back and get away with it.


APPLAUSE But how? In Scotland, that partly


involves a tactical appeal to counter the SNP. They are defending


56 Scottish seats out of 59. She edged doubters in constituencies


where a labourer was second to consider turning red again. The


author, a federal UK and opposition to independence. In these 120 pages,


you'll find a guarantee that they will oppose a second referendum on


independence. The Labour Party is built on solidarity and could never


take our country down that path again. We are divided on. She said


the key manifesto policy was a living wage of ?10 gallon. -- per


hour. They will increase public spending with a spin off for


Scotland. Hull Scotland will see a huge increase in public service


investment. That figure is around ?3 billion in parliament. Money for


schools, hospitals and the benefit of being partly the United Kingdom.


That means higher taxation, although not the Jeremy Corbyn version. The


Scottish Labour manifesto in involves plans to increase the basic


rate of business tax, although that is in the hands of Holyrood. At the


launch, Kezia Dugdale said she was excited by the opportunity presented


by Labour's manifesto. Here are more details. They propose a Scottish


investment bank with ?20 billion of resources. The also involve


high-speed rail to Glasgow and Edinburgh and they will align the


Trident nuclear gerunds, in alignment with the UK policy, not


the Scottish policy. Starting in Livingston, that is the package


Kezia Dugdale will offer voters. Our nightly panel of pundits join me


now, live in the studio this evening it's Labour campaigner and former


candidate Cat Headley, the journalist Peter Geoghegan


and in Edinburgh the political Welcome to you all this evening.


Thank you for joining me. Cat, first, what lies behind a U-turn


from the Conservatives on social policy in the middle of an election


campaign? We saw two day that reason eight, when he is on, she can take


it. -- Theresa May. We saw this without having the election in the


first place, national insurance contributions in the budget. This is


sending a clear message that Theresa May every Prime Minister of the 8th


of June is actually going to, when the going gets tough, do a runner.


As she has on the campaign trail. Strong as stable. It would fight


weak and wobbly instead, doesn't it? In dollars but what is telling is


that when the manifesto was together, it was a closed room. --


it does. It works well when the going is good, it is like an echo


chamber. There wasn't much. When Andrew Gilbert was talking today,


the policy-making does not work very well under a general election


environment. In a way, we are just... A group setting, you said,


they just go and roll with it. It. It unravelled by the end of last


week. It was not going to be sustainable. These are issues,


especially around the idea of a dementia tax, it is a general


phrase. For a larger families, it is relevant to something they are


dealing with an everyday lives it was going to be unsustainable. The


much more fundamental question is, how did this come about in the


birthplace? Added and not get scrutinised before the public


domain? That is more damaged than the Eugene itself. -- in the first


place. -- than the U-turn. When it comes to paying foreign social


provision, the Conservatives need to show courage in the conviction in


asking for more from better off pensioners. The way they went about


it was wrong, but was this U-turn a mistake, and the policy itself is


fundamentally right? I think the policy, as was, and this old thing


is undeniably messy... But the policy as was was at least the


beginning of a more responsible discussion about what is a massively


complex and of course costly problem in intergenerational poverty and the


cost of social care. The requirement is sometimes to sell someone's house


to pay for that. That is a discussion we need to have and I


thought the policy unveiled last week was a beginning of something


quite promising in that respect but it is obviously political


kryptonite, there have been a view focus groups since then and the


prime minister and advisers are obviously panicking on that. -- a


few. I think we have now taken several steps back. Ivo gives group


that is obvious is the Cabinet. Do you agree that she did not go


through the rank process? Patently been the case. It is well documented


that the prime Minister and her two chiefs of staff, Timothy and Fiona


Hill, it seems that this simply was not tested. Not only beyond that


tight circle but crucially without as, members of the public. -- with


voters. ACAS Ireland guaranteed you never support independence, will


that be enough to build a Labour revival? Kezia has been very clear


that it is time to move on, Scotland have had enough. -- A cast-iron


guarantee. Scottish Labour is very clear that we are against a second


referendum. It is time to focus on education and the health service


anti-government have to get back to the day job. The debate last night


was very clear from the audience members, on the doorstep, the


independence referendum is a distraction and it is also a


convenient excuse in relation to the EU because the result was going to


be something that Nicola Sturgeon will find for the SNP to argue for


another referendum. If it was not EU, it would be something else. With


the SNP and independence, and the Tories with the cuts, have they made


a difference today? In some ways, they hidden stories of the council


elections, which is a few weeks ago but feels like a few months ago, is


that Labour did OK, they survived, come out unscathed. The jewellery


came out in seconds but it was not as bad as it could be. The challenge


for Labour in a first past the post system is that it is that


nationalism. The SNP are really a force of nationalism, the Tories are


not, where the Labour Party fit in? We are going to have any --


unionism. Are they on the Unionist side? They are probably not going to


pull off enough. What about with the SNP? And they will probably be able


to pull a view but not quite. Will they generate multi-? It is


difficult to look across the country and see where they generate multi-?


It is difficult to look across the country and see where the seat will


come from. There is one where it'll certainly struggled to vote. Whether


these were at an Edinburgh salve, because it is very different to


these policies, who knows. The prime Minister was interviewed by Andrew


Neal Elliott today, she refused to take part in your leaders debate.


You're the one in Edinburgh. -- Andrew Neil. Is it difficult for


leaders to get the point across? -- the leaders debate in Edinburgh. Of


course. You heard the nurse Jake the First Minister to chat. We should


not overstate the impact of the leaders debates, manifesto launches,


and indeed political campaigns. The average voter will not follow this.


-- take her to task. They are they are watching this programme. All of


it has its place but it can be exaggerated. Villagers decided to


vote on a general mood of candidates, a general impression of


party, leaders and policies. Very little of this actually cuts


through. Kezia Dugdale for example had a good night last night, I


think. Anti-gay, knows journalists thought she did very well at the


manifesto launch. -- And today, most journalists what she did very well.


More from the campaign trail coming up, but first Anne Lundon has


Thousands of investors seeking compensation


from The Royal Bank of Scotland are taking legal action against


This morning the case was adjourned for 24 hours


The shareholders claim they were misled


over the bank's financial health in the run-up to its near-collapse


More from our business correspondent Andy Verity.


Inside this building behind me this morning the courtroom was packed,


and included among the people were shareholders who were asked to fork


The bank was trying to raise ?12 billion, the


biggest ever fundraising at the time done by a UK corporation, and when


you raise money from your shoulders, you are supposed to tell them what


they are handing over their money for.


All the relevant details are supposed to be there, like for


example how financially strong or weak you are.


What the shareholders are claiming is that the bank didn't


tell them relevant information, like for example the fact that executives


had been telling each other that if they could not borrow from other


banks, they might run out of money in a day or less.


The shareholders are irritated now that this has


taken years to progress, and that the bank has spent


?110 million of money that comes from you and me,


taxpayers, fighting this case, only to decide it wants to settle it now.


One shareholder, Neil Mitchell, gave me his views.


It is absolutely atrocious that 110 million has been


booked so far, it will be at least 125 million.


This is taxpayer money being used to defend litigation


against their own shareholders, their own customers, which is what


RBS do in dealing with anyone dares complain against them.


Now they have decided to adjourn the case for


a day while they try to continue settlement talks.


Among the people they are talking to are former employees


of the bank who are encouraged persuaded to take out shares


themselves, investing thousands of pounds,


and of those shares went from ?2 down to 11p.


They are not happy, and in order for them to be


settled with, the bank is going to have to go some.


A former head teacher at a Catholic boarding school in the Highlands has


gone on trial accused of assaulting boys in his care.


83-year-old Father Benedict Seed is charged with assaulting


eight pupils at the now closed Fort Augustus abbey school


Inverness Sheriff Court heard that the alleged attacks included


hitting boys with a hockey stick and a spiked golf shoe.


A man has appeared in court charged with attempting to abduct two young


girls from a playpark in Falkirk last Friday.


50-year-old John Bermingham is also accused


of assault and breaching a Sexual Offences Prevention Order.


He made no plea during the private hearing at Falkirk Sheriff Court


Getting back to the campaign trail now - the Liberal Democrats called


on the SNP to drop their demands for a second independence


referendum for the sake of Scotland's businesses.


When the challenge for businesses is so huge with Brexit, the last thing


they need is even more trade barriers with independence. That's


why the SNP should call off their campaign for another independence


referendum. It will damage in this and it is bad already with Brexit.


-- damage businesses. The SNP picked up on the biggest


issue of the day - they used Theresa May's apparent


U-turn on social care to push their credentials as the protectors


of Scotland's pensioners. Left to their own devices, the


Tories will take away the triple what protection on pensions and the


Winter fuel on balance, and impose a dementia tax in England. That says


to me that, for Scotland, we need the strongest possible voices


standing up in Scotland's interest and that can only come from the SNP.


A few hours ago, in a BBC interview with Andrew Neil, Theresa May


refused to put a figure on the upper limit people will have to pay


towards the cost of social care, saying it will be


The Prime Minister has denied going back on her manifesto plan


to make people in England pay for their care, up to the last


We're going to publish a green paper, a consultation, so we want to


take people's views and views of charities and others on how the


system should be operating. We will have within the consultation that


concept of an absolute limit on the costs that people have to pay.


Well, I'm joined by some politicians - tonight the Scottish Labour MSP


James Kelly is here in Glasgow and in Edinburgh we've got


the Scottish Lib Dem candidate Christine Jardine,


the Scottish Conservative MSP Gordon Lindhurst and the SNP


Welcome to you all. Gordon Lindhurst, you were on the campaign


trail over the weekend. Just how badly was the social care issue


going down and does that explain this dramatic U-turn today? I think


what the Prime Minister did today was clarified the policy and it's


something that she says will be subject to further consultation. Did


anybody mention it to you over the weekend? No, what people have been


saying on the doorsteps is they recognise the need to address social


care and other policy issues in this area but this particular


announcement does apply to Scotland, where we have our own set of policy


considerations. but this has been a massive climb-down in the middle of


an election campaign. As I said, this only applies to England, but


the Prime Minister is seeking to clarify things and detail on policy,


is always something that needs to be clarified and were consultation is


going to be carried out, that can be done so no, it's not something that


voters were really overly concerned about in Scotland at the weekend


when I was out campaigning. Polls seem to be campaigning a bit away


from you right now. When you look back at this YouTube and social


care, will you think this was a key moment where the election possibly


turn for you? I think this election campaign still has two weeks to run


and I don't think this issue in and of itself certainly in particular in


Scotland is really something that is going to heavily influenced the way


voters vote -- influence the way voters bought, so I think one can


look at it the other way and think that it shows the Prime Minister is


listening to what people have to say and wants to allay fears that may


not have a basis. Tommy Sheppard in Edinburgh, elections are made of


manifestos and moments of last night's readers debate, in stalled


Nicola Sturgeon that she struggled to afford to live and how to turn to


foodbanks and was criticised by one of your Westminster colleagues on


social media and subsequently faced a barrage of abuse as a result.


There has been an apology on social media to her. Would you like to


apologise to her on TV? I haven't seen what was said, Stephen, but of


course I would condemn any abuse of social media, I get it myself, and


there is no place for that in this election campaign but I understand


the nurse did raise some important points that go to the heart of this


election campaign and that is who is paying for Brexit, who is paying for


its territory, and only the SNP are coming up with a coherent plan to


challenge austerity at source and decided should be the poor and


vulnerable in our society who have to pay for that. People shouldn't


have to continue working and not see an increase in their wages. So


you're saying it was important for her voice to be had and was wrong of


your Westminster College to criticise her for what she said? --


Westminster colleague. I'm not sure what the debate was, but I'm sure my


colleagues would have acted in good faith with the information they had


but the information has now been corrected an apology has been made


and I think it should go on. I think the important thing today is the


bizarre spectacle of a Labour manifesto for a Westminster election


suggests income tax should go up for basic rate taxpayers in Scotland but


not anywhere else in the UK. How on earth do they expect anyone to vote


Labour in that context? It is quite a bizarre offer to the electorate.


The SNP wants to see those with broadest shoulders who can afford to


do so paying more in tax and we want to CNN to two Tory cuts but to be


transferring them onto the backs of low-paid families in Scotland like


the nurse last night is not the way of doing it. James Kelly, Scottish


Labour, your manifesto launched today. Last day Kezia Dugdale


accused the SNP have been blinded by independence. The headline on your


press release, Scottish Labour manifesto to oppose another divisive


referendum. One page mentions independence 11 times. The truth is,


you're the party that can see past. Greenback we made it clear today


that at the heart of our proposals is that we are stronger together. We


are opposed to another independence referendum but what is becoming


clear in this election is that Labour are winning the political


arguments and that is because the policies that we are putting forward


like a ?10 minimum wage, an additional ?3 billion to the


Scottish budget and taking railways back into public ownership are


popular policies and that is why Labour has momentum going into this


final two weeks. Back to independence, it seems to be the


most important thing for you because it is all over the manifesto today.


I can much, Jeremy Corbyn said a second referendum was aptly be fine.


Now we're getting a cast-iron guaranteed never to back


independence. How does that square? Labour have made it absolutely


clear, consistently through this campaign, that we are opposed to a


second independence referendum. Module leader, Jeremy Corbyn! The


SNP have taken their eyes off the issues they should be concentrating


on like the crisis in the NHS, the pay cap that the nurse spoke about


last night and trying to improve literacy and numeracy in our


schools. I've been on the doors tonight in Rutherglen and those are


the issues that people are talking about. They don't want another


referendum and it's time that the SNP got on with the issues that they


are responsible for. That's what people are saying in this selection.


Christine Jardine for the Liberal Democrats, we heard in the debate


last night a very clear choice in the election, the SNP for


independence and two major parties opposed to independence but with


different views about how the country should be run. Where does


that leave any space for the Liberal Democrats? I think you're


overlooking the fact that Willie Rennie has been absolutely clear


that we are opposed to independence. There were three major parties last


eight opposed to it. Not on the basis of the polls, Christine.


Withered leaves us is, as a party who are the only party in Scotland


who are pro-UK and pro-EU and want to see Scotland at the heart of the


UK and the heart of Europe with a strong relationship with Europe. But


the Labour Party Conservative parties have come down now in favour


of hard Brexit. Jeremy Corbyn has backed to -- Theresa May's view.


That puts 80,000 jobs at risk in Scotland. We are the only party


standing up for a relationship with Europe which will protect those


jobs. Ruth Davidson said today she would be happy to work with you and


Labour to form a prounion coalition to force the SNP out of Hollywood.


Would you work with her? I think what we're seeing across Scotland is


people deciding for themselves who they would see as the best party to


vote the SNP alt of the seats for Westminster and that is what we are


concerned about at the moment. We have an election where it is clear


that Theresa May is heading towards a victory. So you would work with


her? I think what we're seeing is that people are deciding for


themselves how they are going to vote. so would you work with her?


Our leader has made it clear there will be no coalition at Westminster


and what we're doing is, we are working for the people across


Scotland who want to see Scotland at the heart of the UK and the UK at


the heart of Europe. That's what we're working on. Thank you all of


you for joining us this evening. Now there's around an hour


left to get yourself registered if you want to vote


in this election. I found out earlier


just how easy it is. This is Sam. She's 22 and doing work


experience. Sam dropped off the electoral roll after the


independence referendum. Up to 7 million eligible people across the


UK are not to vote and this particular -- there is particular


concern for younger voters. Hondas under-21s have dropped off the list


since the vote was introduced. But it just takes an address and


national insurance number to join. Now that that's done, my next


decision is who to vote for! So if you want to register before


the midnight cut-off in just one Before we leave you tonight,


you know that feeling when you are caught doing something


you shouldn't be doing? This was Foreign Secretary Boris


Johnson sneaking a look at the questions before


being interviewed by Fellow Tory Sir Nicholas Soames


called him a rotter. And that's Election


Reporting Scotland. Tomorrow on the campaign trail,


the SNP launch their manifesto. Until then, from everyone


here, goodnight.


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