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Good evening on Election Reporting Scotland.

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We are into the last week of campaigning,

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as Nicola Sturgeon and Tim Farron answer questions from

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And the row over policing following the London attacks.

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The final week of the election and, from nowhere, it

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Following the weekend terror attack in London,

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arguments about security dominated today on the campaign trail.

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The subject also featured in a special election edition

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of Question Time from Edinburgh tonight, featuring SNP

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leader Nicola Surgeon and the Lib Dem's Tim Farron.

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Our political reporter Andrew Kerr watched the debate

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and it started, Andrew, with the issue of terrorism and security?

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That is correct. It is the issue everyone is wanting to talk about

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today. It dominated the campaign today. The Labour Party leader said

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that Theresa May should resign over police cuts. And at the leaders

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special, Tim Farron and so the question when it came up regarding

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the extra powers the police should maybe be given. He had a different

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response. What they want more than anything is the resources to catch

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people. But what do the terrorists want others to do? They want us to

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turn in on herself and divide ourselves. They want us to give up

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our freedoms and we will not do the otherwise the bill have one.

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And Nicola Surgeon again faced questions from an audience

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The special took place in Edinburgh. Security was uppermost in everyone's

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moaned but she did not want a knee jerk response that undermine the

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liberties and freedoms we currently have. On an independence referendum,

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she was criticised for pushing it by some people. And on her track

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record, very critical questions from the audience, particularly around

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the question of education. When we come to contest the next Scottish

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parliament questions, if I am asking people to vote for me again, I

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expect to be judged on that. It is legitimate to be asked that

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question. But this week, we are not choosing a Scottish Government, we

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are choosing MPs to go to Westminster, and that will determine

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whether the funding for schools and education goes up or down.

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And one other development tonight, more confusion for Labour,

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this time involving the party in Wales?

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The Welsh Labour Party did not appear to be singing from the same

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song sheet. It is all about the Barnett formula, the formulae used

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to distribute money to Scotland, Ireland and whales. They want to

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move to evenly spaced formula and the Labour leader in whales says

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that there should be a different formula. We put that to the Scottish

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Labour Party. They said that our manifesto costings are based on the

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Barnett formula and we will not scrap it. The Labour Party singing

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from a different song sheet in different parts of the United

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Kingdom. Last week, Jeremy Corbyn was seeing very different things

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about a second independence referendum than what the leadership

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of the Scottish Labour Party were seeing. More too, that I am sure.

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More from the election campaign coming up, but first,

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the rest of the day's news from Sally McNair.

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People in the island communities of Barra and Vatersay came together

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today for the funeral of teenager Eilidh MacLeod, one of the victims

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Friends and family heard how Eilidh packed "a lot of life"

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into her 14 years. Cameron Buttle reports.

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A small honour guard walked her to the hearse that

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took her home, for one last night, her family.

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The McLeod family live in the shadow of the Church

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The family gently carried up the hill.

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The piper played a well-known Gaelic song, a song that

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praises the beauty of a fair-haired Barra girl.

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Outside, mourners perched wherever they could.

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Added extra ferries and flights to bring people here.

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Police estimate that around 1,000 came to pay their respects.

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Inside, Eilidh's great-uncle paid tribute.

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In contrast to the hate that took her life,

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Eilidh's life was, and now stands as,

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a testament forever to the world of love, of innocence,

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goodness, generosity, kindness and faith.

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The priest who led the service said it was important to

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remember that Eilidh was a happy girl who

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had 14 happy years, and the last few were the happiest

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Eilidh was a bubbly, fun-loving girl, a talented girl.

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When I met her, I sensed a positive, loving, happy girl.

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People were there to remember the tragic part of the decade that

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were cut away from a life, many felt, and so that the family could

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see that fellow feeling that everybody had, not just in the

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island, but in other islands and the mainland.

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As the cortege wound round the island, Eilidh was taken over

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the causeway to Vatersay, where she moved to back years ago.

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It is perhaps best ended with the words her family.

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A Fatal Accident Inquiry into the death of a 12-year-old girl

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who died when a school wall collapsed, has begun in Edinburgh.

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Keane Wallis-Bennett suffered fatal crushing injuries in April 2014,

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when a wall in the PE changing room at Liberton High fell on top of her.

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The judge in the fraud trial of the former owner

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of Rangers Football Club, Craig Whyte, has urged the jury

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to "keep cool heads" and take a long, hard look

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Mr Whyte is accused of acquiring Rangers by fraud in May 2011.

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He denies the charge and a second charge under the Companies Act.

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Now back to Stephen. Thanks, Sally.

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Rolling coverage of the London terror attacks led to last-minute

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Sunday Politics Scotland was supposed to be showing the

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last of its leader interviews with Willie Rennie from

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Instead, we are screening the interview which Gordon

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Jeremy Corbyn has called for the Prime Minister to resign. He says

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she has presided over cuts in policing. What do you make of that?

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I think it is a rather odd point in the middle of an election campaign

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deciding who will be the new Prime Minister. But the central point is

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fear. She was Home Secretary for seven years and know she is trying

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to find solutions to a problem she has presided over. The cuts in

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policing, specifically recently, have been a particular problem,

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especially when the terror threat has increased. But we also have

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other issues. We are also pursuing mass surveillance. It is costly and

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ineffective and does not target based on evidence and that is why I

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think there is a valid case that Jeremy Corbyn has made, although

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rather odd that he has needed during a general election campaign. She

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should go? I would expect the voters to make that decision. You mentioned

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mass surveillance. Even the speech that was made yesterday Theresa May

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by, are you preparing to support some sort of crackdown which could

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be announced over the next couple of days, perhaps even before the

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election. Or are you more concerned about civil liberties? We do need to

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have a bit of caution at this time. People are very angry and frustrated

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and fearful. We need to make sure we protect the cherished Civil

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Liberties we all want to keep. Seeing enough is enough is tough,

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but what does it actually mean? A lot of people up and down the

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country will think, she is right, not enough has been done. If it

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means bringing in new rules about detaining suspects for longer by the

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police than they can do at the moment. We need to be that on

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evidence. But people will say, you can now have evidence. Look at what

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happened in Manchester. What you need to have is the solid evidence

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that it actually works. This would not last naturally build long-term

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solutions. And it could cost something like ?1 billion. I would

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rather ?1 billion was spent on keeping us safe rather than having a

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fast data stored on the Internet. I do not think that is necessarily the

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best way to go about it. We have to think about national security, but

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also about civil liberties. The general election, the Liberal

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Democrats are going to do very well. Across the United Kingdom, your

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claim was you wanted to become the main opposition Party. The manifesto

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starts off by assuming, perhaps wrongly, that Theresa May was going

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to do much better than she is doing and that the Labour Party would beat

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rubbish as an opposition. But it is just not happening at the moment.

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You are down at 8% in the opinion polls. Just look at Brexit. What

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type of opposition did Jeremy Corbyn provided. He voted with Theresa May

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an Nigel Farage. We will see what happens on Thursday. They accept

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politicians think that is only one opinion poll that matters, but to

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get the Liberal Democrats vote wrong between 8-10%, the opinion polls

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would have to be wrong than any opinion poll ever in world history.

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I guarantee that no matter how many Liberal Democrat MPs are elected,

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they will provide strong opposition. What I am suggesting is that it just

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is not working. I doubt if I have ever read a Party manifesto which

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gets so drawn in its opening paragraph that we are an election is

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going to go. You assumed the Conservative Party were going to win

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and that Jeremy Corbyn would be terrible. Neither of these things

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have happened. I can tell you it in the key seats in Scotland, we will

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do exceptionally well. You said you would be the main opposition to

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Theresa May. We will be a robust and effective opposition in the

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parliament. We will have more MPs. We will provide the challenge on

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Brexit, investment in public services and having available

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liberal approach to government. I would like is to be a force in the

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House of Commons. I would like that to be as big as possible, but that

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is up to the voting public. You have lost your unique selling point in

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this election. If you do not want the Conservative Party to get back,

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people will vote Labour. If your main issue is that you want to stay

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in Europe, it is an awful lot more likely that the Scottish National

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Party could have another independence referendum and keep the

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country in Europe than the Liberal Democrats winning the election and

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having another European referendum. We speak for the majority of people

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in this country who oppose a second referendum, who want to have the

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second Sea on Brexit, the opportunity to reject a bad deal,

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but investing in public services. But the original evidence that

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people want a second referendum on Europe. No matter what we think,

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when we see the final deal, the British people should have the final

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say. It should not be left to just who is in government. We need to

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British people to have the opportunity to reject a deal. I

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believe we will grow. I have been in many key seats when it is a simple

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choice between the Scottish National Party and the Liberal Democrats.

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Whether people agree with is not, they do not want a divisive second

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independence referendum. But we cannot have a referendum but we want

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another European Union referendum? We did have the white paper. All we

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had were slogans. Can they reduce something. This is Mr Carmichael,

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the Secretary of State for Scotland. He says of the white Paper, people

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will draw their own conclusions that the Scottish Pullman have sought to

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ignore the uncertainties over independence. We are expected to

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believe everything will be perfect after we leave the United Kingdom.

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We are told there will be all right on the night. You said about the

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independence White Paper that you said about the Brexit one. You said

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there was no detail. We rejected that three years ago. I think we

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have the opportunity to reject the detail when it is forthcoming on

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Brexit. We need to have the final say. We have no detail. The

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government did not expect to lose, so there was no detailed plans. The

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problem you have is that you are meant to be Liberal Democrats. The

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Scottish National Party have the mandate in the manifesto, the

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Scottish Parliament has voted to have another referendum. Your link

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is even harder than the Conservative Party. You see your MPs would vote

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against any section 30 order to have another referendum. That is

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anti-democratic. How can you claim the Scottish National Party have no

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manifesto? How can be anti-democratic for the Liberal

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Democrats to fall through the promise the manifesto. They won the

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election, unlike you. They did not win. They lost their majority. If

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that happened in the House of Commons, even Tony Blair did not

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have a majority in that sense. The Green Party said you would have to

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have 1 million signatures on a petition before you could have

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another referendum. I think that is why it is quite clear. Liberal

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Democrat should follow the manifesto commitment and reject any talk of

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the second independence referendum. The talk about Brexit, but any

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excuse coming along would be an excuse for the Scottish National

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Party. If you had something in your manifesto, you claim you the mandate

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to influence things. You could regret that down the road. That is

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the mandate that we were given in all the seats we won in the

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election. We give a commitment. That is what we are going to do. We will

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not go back on a warrant. It has been a depressing tough couple of

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days for everyone. We know that if Tim Farron wins this election,

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everyone can have a split to celebrate! When you win the next

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election, will you legalise cannabis in Scotland? We do not have the

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specific ports on cannabis. I will use my position to argue that an

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approach to deal with the drugs problem in this country, which is

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feeling at the moment. Now, Theresa May has been

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campaigning in Scotland today, with security issues central

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to the campaign. The Prime Minister has been

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defending her record on policing, after Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn

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called on her to resign I am articulating what is a deep

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anger over 20,000 police officers losing their jobs, firefighters

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losing their jobs, ambulance crews being unable to cope under pressure.

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We need to look at what she did this Home Secretary.

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We predicting overall police budgets in England and Wales and also

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ensuring that the police and security services have the powers

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they need to be able to deal with the terrorists. So, we have enhanced

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the powers available to them. Jeremy Corbin, by contrast, has boasted

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that he has opposed every piece of anti-terror legislation since he has

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been in Parliament. The Prime Minister speaking in Edinburgh

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today. Our nightly panel of

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pundits join me now. Tonight, Angela Haggerty,

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editor of the Common Space website, security expert

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Professor Peter Jackson from Glasgow University

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and Michael Blackley, the Political Editor

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of the Scottish Daily Mail. The terror attacks in three months,

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how big an issue is this likely to be for reporters on Thursday? I

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think it will be a bigger issue than it has ever been before. I do not

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remember an election where there has been this level of terror, even

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during the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland. This close to an

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election, this kind of intensity of terrorist atrocities, it is kind of

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unprecedented. I think, both parties are urging people to reflect on

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which party, both major parties in the UK, which party will keep you

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safe. This is going to be playing on people's minds when they cast their

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vote. Let's just look at the parties. March 2016, the SNP

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abstained from a vote on the so-called snoopers Charter, which

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Theresa May said at the time would give our law enforcement and

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intelligence agencies the powers they need to keep us safe. Is it

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time for the SNP to rethink their position on legislation like this?

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They SNP abstained, but there were also a lot of camping goods, civil

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liberties groups, warning that this snoopers charter was going to be a

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massive clamp-down on civil liberties. -- a lot of campaign

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groups. Joanna Cherry did quite a lot of work on this at Westminster

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and warned, actually, about the authoritarianism of that bill and

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some of the potential risks. I think the SNP has made it quite clear,

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Joanna Cherry made it quite clear that there were some things about

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the bill that were useful but the whole thing should not necessarily

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be thrown out as an idea, there were certainly things within it that

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would need to be looked out. The SNP's position should not change on

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that. The voters realise that when it comes to security in this

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election, they are probably going to be looking at who is your next Prime

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Minister, which party will be in government? They are looking to them

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for the answers and security, so this has become a massive election

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issue suddenly right at the very last minute, but I do not think

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necessarily that people are looking towards the SNP's stands on security

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as being the big motivating factor for voters in Scotland. The Prime

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Minister is difficult ground with those on the home security. As Home

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Secretary, she presided over cuts to policing of almost 20,000. The only

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place in Britain where police numbers have been maintained is

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right here in Scotland under the SNP. She did this quite a lot of

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significant questions today from members of the media about police

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number cuts, and of course it is an important issue. However, even the

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Chief Constable of Police Scotland says that it is old-fashioned to

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judge policing just by police numbers. It looks like Police

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Scotland will no longer have a commitment to maintain police

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numbers. Nicola Sturgeon seems to accept now that it is about how you

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deal with the threat, not necessarily about bobbies on the

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beat any more. I do not think you can judge the previous Home

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Secretary's performance just by police numbers alone. Peter Jackson,

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a distributor Kerry for all the parties. Jeremy Corbyn has voted

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against anti-terror legislation on 17 different occasions down the

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years. Diane Abbott could not even work out how much extra policing was

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going to cost. Labour has some questions to answer, no doubt. They

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are playing up the cuts, 19,000 whatever, cuts in police numbers as

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a way of saying that Theresa May has serious questions to ask. In order

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for that action to -- argument to gain traction, it is quite important

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that they show that community policing does gather intelligence is

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vaulted counter-terrorism. That is an important argument, but it does

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come at the last minute and the public will not be able to judge

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very clearly on whether or not, you know, the Conservative government is

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right that it is the resources you give and powers you give to security

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and intelligence and police, or in fact, you know, bobbies on the beat.

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Is that important as a source of community intelligence gathering, to

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get a feel for communities, gain the trust of communities and to be

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someone to which communities can turn if they have concerns? Karim

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Angela, final question Time debate tonight from Edinburgh, Tim Farron

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and Nicola Sturgeon, two days to go, any major developments for you? It

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was like a game off 2/2, the debate. Tim Farron find it very difficult to

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justify one referendum on Brexit and opposing one on Scottish

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independence. When Nicola Sturgeon came out, she faced opposition from

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the audience about the idea of a second referendum. It did highlight

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how blurred the lines have become between devolved and Westminster

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issues. I think that is going to be an issue for us going forward.

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Especially with a live audience! Tomorrow on the campaign trail,

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it is all about oil and gas, Join us again tomorrow night

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for all that and more. It will stay with you for a good

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part of the next 24 hours. It is going to stay cloudy and wet pretty

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much across the board. A lot of the drive towards the west coast and

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more like showers for the Hebrides. Quite windy on the west and

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south-west coast from a northerly direction. That rain straight into

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part of the North of England, down towards East Anglia, to the southern

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flank. Really high winds down to Manchester down to the Midlands.

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Deal for such times. Across Wales under five, showers rather than

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rain. Breezy here and certainly, a windy day as well as a wet one.

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Quite a cool feeling day. 13, 14 Celsius. It will not feel like that,

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especially with the cloud. The rain and the wind. It slowly moves away

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and, come Wednesday, it is a brighter day for many of us. Still

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quite cloudy and dam across the far north and north-east, but,

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elsewhere, dry and bread. Some sunshine and the wind lighter. There

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's dry, but there is more rain in the forecast. As we have those the

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afternoon, in It was an industry

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bursting at the seams. We exported thread

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to the whole world.

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