29/07/2014 Scotland 2014

Scotland's most successful games ever, as we break our medal record.

Glasgow is basking in golden glory tonight as Scotland

wins more Commonwealth medals than ever before.

As the city celebrates, we are looking at Glasgow's

How it links us to some of our Commonwealth guests and why

And whilst we are enjoying Scottish success, we will be talking

about what means to be British with a leading Scottish nationalist.

This week Scottish athletes are pitted against English,

At other events we are all cheering for Team GB.

Many of us consider ours elves to be both.

Including some prominent Scottish nationalists who are voting yes,

but say they are just as British as the next person.

Now, in the first of two authored films

by politicians looking at national identity and how it will affect

the referendum, the SNP MP Pete Wishart embraces his Britishness.

Campaigning for an independent Scotland has meant I have had to do

this within the heart of the British state, commuting every week to

Parliament that I want my nation to leave. But I have come to an

accommodation with Britishness and more than that, it is something I am

comfortable with. Not easy for someone who is a member of the SNP

to admit to because historically it is a message that people in the Yes

campaign had not wanted to hear. I arranged to meet one of the first

SNP figures to come out at against -- about being pro-British. You took

up this issue about 15 years ago. That was quite a radical thing to do

and there was a mixed response. How did the debate has developed since

then? At the time I had the observation

speaking to my parents that they felt a deep loyalty towards many

institutions of Britishness but they will vote yes now in the referendum

because they see no contradiction. Scottishness became more confident

in the 1980s and 1990s and with revolution there is no threat to us,

we have our own Parliament. But what powers should it have. I think

things have grown up and there is a long distance to travel which will

be more and happy list to be when we have control of our own affairs and

do not define ourselves by our flag. I do not think I'm alone in being

relaxed about British as being a feature in Scotland. It is just a

fact of life. To help me through this maze of identity politics I

have enlisted reverser James Mitchell. The sense of Scottishness

is much more powerful than a sense of British as but that is not to

deny the existence of a British identity. They must have come a

stage when people felt culturally secure enough to say it. Is there

anything that has been a cultural tipping point, to say we are now

more Scottish than British? In the past there was always a sense that

Scottishness was under attack. Now we feel secure in our Scottishness

and it is Britishness which is now less secure. More is written and

spoken about Britishness than Scottishness.

In many ways this is about acknowledging that our identities

are shifting and multiple and that is fine.

In my experience it is Unionist politicians who are trying to make

it far too black and white. And they use identity to miss represent the

yes case. They said nationalists do not have patriotism all to

themselves but we never said any such thing. One campaigner got me

analysing messages. Those on the no side are the ones introducing

identity into the campaign. Scotland has moved considerably in the past

ten or 14 years and if you hear some of the pronouncements from the

Labour politicians who have entered stage left in recent weeks, it is

almost as if they're stuck in the 1970s time warp. Scotland has moved

and shifted considerably. I do not see myself as a

nationalists. I believe in self-determination and in the right

of our nation to be a member state, a normal country the same as

everyone else. Some may define that as being nationalists but is the

independence as a means to an end. I am a utilitarian independence

supporter. What I'm trying to say I suppose is

that Scottishness, Britishness, is a fantastic feature of this incredible

nation we live in. Our diversity is very much our strength. What is not

welcome is those who try to please advise identity issues to bring it

into the debate as if it is Scottishness against Britishness.

That is something we should be concerned about.

And Pete Wishart is here with us this evening,

and joined by the Scottish Liberal Democrat Leader, Willie Rennie.

You stand accused of making it the choice between Scottish and

Britishness. Well we credit Pete for his dramatic change in position. At

one stage he says is Scotland moves to become an independent nation, all

the stages of Britishness will go. I do not know what Britishness even

is. Now he is its biggest fan. If nationalism is an independent and is

not about identity, I do not know what is. They spent all their time

talking about distinct Scottish values. How different we are. Why

otherwise would they want to do something different and have a

separate nation. It is all about identity. That is where their

mission in life is. -- what. We know the institutions would be different

in an independent Scotland, but how do the values different -- if? Were

all secure about our Scottishness and feel the necessity to try to

define Britishness. We have seen some clumsy attempt, who could

forget the excruciating effort of Gordon Brown just a few years ago.

There have been some meaning all attempts to define it as well. --

meaningful. I see no contradiction whatsoever with being profoundly

Scottish and at the same time embracing the 300 years of shared

culture experience we have had within these islands. It is not what

the referendum is about, it is about how and from where we are governed.

To get onto this meaningless debate about identity is just so boring. It

is nothing that I hear on the doorstep. Only the Unionists droned

on about this. The SNP has been on a long journey to the position that

you are at now. Things have changed in the party. That is about not

scaring voters, keeping the Queen is the monarch, keeping the currency.

We have all been on a remarkable journey over the past few years.

There has been an attack from within the party. The independence movement

has moved on. What it demonstrates is that we had an inclusive and

civic movement, we want to celebrate our diversity, or cultural are

welcome. Contrast that with the announcement today, when people

outside of the UK will have their benefits cut again. Where on a

different -- a different political trajectory.

It is a cynical ploy to try to reassure people who regard

themselves as British that it is want.

We want to make sure we get the levers of economic power, the

supporters of independence. You are trying to characterise our case

The aim was always to win more medals than at any other previous

Jonathan Sutherland joins us now from the Tollcross

And the final day of action here in the pool.

Scotland have made real splash here when it comes to winning medals.

Today Scotland currently have 13 gold medals, 11 silver and 13 bronze

medal. We have slipped down the table to fourth place from third

place but we have a total of 37 medals this evening. A huge

achievement for Team Scotland and it all began earlier today elsewhere in

Glasgow. So much focus on Team Scotland

beating the record Commonwealth record tally, it always looked like

happening at these games and when it did it happened here at the SECC.

Lovely height. He just makes that look easy. The breakthrough medal

came in the team gymnastics. Daniel Purvis took silver. Scotland's 34th

medal at these games. An emotional moment for these young Scots.

After that is the point of a bronze yesterday, a better day for Jen

McIntosh. Briefly at the top of the leaderboard, she finished with

silver. This was number 35 for Scotland. Dan Wallace's bright was

not in doubt. A powerful finish and another medal for Scotland. Another

silver. It has been a good day for Team

Scotland. But there was some support and in the 1500 metres for law your

finished outside the medals. But better luck in the hammer

competition. And the final medal of the day for Team Scotland. Taking

the bronze medal and rounding off a fantastic day once again for Team

Scotland. And we look forward to an exciting day tomorrow at the

diving? James Heatley, a 17-year-old Young

Scot going up against Tom Bailey. He has already beaten Tom Daley earlier

on this year. But he is following in big footsteps. His grandfather

actually got five Commonwealth gold medal back in the day. In 1950, 1954

and 1958. He will be watching tomorrow pretty big reputation to

follow up. Over the last few days visitors

from across the world have been marvelling at some of the impressive

architecture and magnificent Monuments to

the city's wealthy past. But rarely do we discuss where

the money came from. Our economics correspondent

Colletta Smith has been looking at Glasgow's hidden history

and its shameful connections to If the Merchant City was buzzing

today with food from all over the Commonwealth. But this cafe is

tackling a very different part of Scotland's historic relationship

with the Commonwealth. Through talks, one please and debate, the

story of how Scotland benefited from the slave trade is being described.

It rocked a great deal of money into Scotland. We went from a developing

nation to being a very rich nation. A site that we can be proud of as

well, the abolition. We have been on both sides of history. He's huge

part of Scotland's foster economic boom was fuelled by trade into

battle, sugar and cotton. It is he has to leave that is not often

talked about. One thought of the people in Jamaica have Scottish

surnames, because we were owned by Scottish plantation orders. The

names of these streets, all of these were slave owning Plantation is. --

plantations. According to the organisers, it is not just the

Commonwealth Games that make this the perfect moment to confront the

history. Scotland is looking to its rule in the world, and the kind of

country that it wants to be. This is a good time. It is a good time to

address the less palatable past. To move or any progressive way. And

with me to explore Scotland's And with me to explore Scotland's

slavery past is the pre-eminent Scientist and Author, the recently

knighted Professor Geoff Palmer. Why is it with well-known that Glasgow

was built on this slave trade? It is a result of historians. They ignore

this. One of our historians, they actually starts it off... I find

unnecessary. It started in the 1970s, when you book was written on

the Tobacco Lords. The word slave is mentioned in the index, but it is

not mentioned in the text. I think what has happened, it has not got

into the textbooks and the curriculum and therefore people do

not normally what about it. People are probably embarrassed. In

Jamaica, are the connections better known? To some degree, yes. But even

in Jamaica, a lot of the textbooks were published in Britain and in

Scotland. We suffer from the same sort of mark of information. -- lack

of. But what you have said is not entirely so. When I deftly shows,

the one repeating question which the Scottish people put to me as why has

nobody told us about this before. Tonight, we saw a Jamaican athlete

winning a medal. He had a Scottish sounding name. The connections are

obvious? Correct. When we look at some of the names, McPherson,

Campbell, all in the Commonwealth team, this is not unusual. And when

we looked at the Jamaican table phone directory, 70% of the names

have Scottish surnames. 2500 Tamils. -- Campbells. Should Scotland have a

closer and better connection to the Caribbean? I think so yes. This

programme attests to it. It acknowledges the link between

Scotland and the Caribbean. I think it is important that Scotland plays

a part, just as in with some countries in Africa, it should take

an interest in developing various countries in the Caribbean. We all

know about Scotland's connections with Mullally. -- Malawi. I would

not like what money to be taken only from one deprived country to

another. But scope, for acknowledging that Jamaica, we the

link between Scotland and Jamaica started in about 17 or seven. --

1707. When the union was signed, Article four days the Scottish

people permission to go to the plantations and they went as British

people. The world can be seen in the lovely picture that you have shown.

Thank you for joining us. Now let's have a look at the other stories

making the headlines around the world tonight. The New York Times

reports that the European Union has expanded sanctions against Russia.

On al-Jazeera, officials have claimed that another 100 people have

died in Palestine. And also, the spread of the deadly virus in West

Africa. Joining me now to discuss some of the other news stories of

the day are Beverly Lyons, entertainment reporter at the Daily

Record, and Scotsman columnist Martin Mclaughlin. It has been

eagerly made for Scotland, 30 seven medals. You think we ought to

obsessed? It is the way to measure success, if you have a certain

number of medals then you set the targets, but I think some people at

the Commonwealth Games, it is important to look beyond the

statistics. Today in the boxing, we had the woman, 18 years old, she

was, but irrespective, somebody like this has come to Glasgow, have

millions of people potentially watching her, and these are the

stories that should be remembered. We have beaten the previous best,

and our previous best was 33 and 1986. This time, 1380 medals are

available and we have taken 37. Hopefully some more? I do not want

to be cynical but is it not cheating? You cannot look at it like

that. You have to praise the people who have won the medals. It has

definitely brought out the personalities. We have seen the two

girls, who won one of the offence. It is about humanising sport. You

get to know people. It was a fantastic day for Scotland, a total

of eight medals on the very frosty, and it cannot have been a

coincidence that the sports we were doing well in or on the frosty? I

think it was quite strategic. In judo, we had 14. Swimming as well.

In four years, judo will not be part of the Commonwealth Games. It is

going to be replaced by basketball. Every country pleas to its

strengths. Scotland have been quite savvy. A bit of news from the

Commonwealth Games, when a 16-year-old Nigerian weightlifter

fielding drugs test. That has made the news from all around the world.

You cannot help for feeling sorry for a 16 genome. In this position?

She should be celebrating the fact that she is here in Glasgow. I think

we are still waiting for the actual test to come through art she may

have some reasonably good excuse. We can take a look at that. I know that

the Nigerian team have got some form in the past for feeling these doping

tests. It is something that should be looked at nationally. If our

colleagues feel that they need to take these things. The government

had warned of the team specifically. Do you think it is a mistake? If it

is then I doubt it is down to the competitor. She is 16. Most

16-year-olds do not have a working knowledge of these drugs. Questions

have to be asked. Nigeria, as pointed out, have passed from this.

Four years ago to athletes were banned after doping at the London

Olympics. I hope the truth will come out. What are we going to remember

from the Commonwealth Games? The dancing Tunnock's Teacakes? I was

going to see that is cheap. I know some people thought it was going to

go to Unisys, but it is going back into the Commonwealth Games fund. --

Unicef. It was cloned braking to have the Unicef part of the opening

ceremony? It is quite studious. It would have been a good move. I am

just eager to find out where it goes. I am sure somebody will walk

down Sauchiehall Street with it on! Thank you. That is all from the

programme. We will be back at the same thing tomorrow. Goodbye.