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CHEERING No to independence: Scotland makes

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its decision and chooses to remain part of the UK. 55% of voters said

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no to that question, " should Scotland be an independent country?"

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Turnout was at a record high. Alex Salmond urges Yes supporters not to

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be downhearted and hailed the record turnout in the referendum as a

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triumph of the democratic process. We started well and on the distance,

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we have followed short. But let us look at the distance we have

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travelled and have confidence that the movement is abroad in Scotland

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that will take this nation forward and we shall go forward as one

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nation. After the promises made during the campaign, the result of

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the referendum needs major changes that the way Scotland, England,

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Wales and Northern Ireland are governed. To those who voted for

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independence, we hear you. We now have a chance, a great opportunity

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to change the way the British people are governed and change it for the

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better. I am Gavin Esler in Holyrood on the day Scotland decided its

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destiny. We will have all the reaction here, across Scotland and

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the rest of the UK. The answer is no but that does not

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mean no change. We will look at what happens next.

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Hello and a very good morning from Holyrood. The people of Scotland

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have spoken. They have voted no to ending more than 300 years of union

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in the UK. First Minister Alex Salmond has conceded defeat, calling

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on all of Scotland to accept the result. David Cameron said he was

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delighted, and the debate was now settled for a generation. He

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promised a new and fair devolution settlement for all parts of the UK.

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He said millions of voices in England must now be heard. Here are

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the results in detail, with all council is now declared. The No

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campaign got 55% of the vote against 45% per the Yes camp. Turnout was a

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record 86.4%, with over 3.5 million people turning out to cast their

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vote on this historic occasion. Only four council areas voted yes,

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although that included Scotland's largest city, Glasgow and a win in

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Dundee. All 28 other areas voted no, including Edinburgh, ice and Alex

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Salmond's own constituency of Aberdeenshire. Iain Watson watch as

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the results came in. -- Fife. They are shouting yes but they have spent

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most of this campaign saying no. With all the results now in,

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supporters of Better Together celebrated Scotland rejecting

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independence. Their mood was in stark contrast to his, the leader of

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the Yes campaign, Alex Salmond, about to concede defeat as he left

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Aberdeenshire. By the time he had arrived in Edinburgh, the brave face

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was back. He decided to accentuate the positive. Thank you to Scotland

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for 1.6 million votes for Scottish independence. He called on his

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supporters to accept defeat. I accept the verdict of the people. I

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call on all of Scotland to follow suit and except the democratic

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verdict of the people of Scotland. -- and accept. The leader of the

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Better Together campaign declared that a no vote did not mean no

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change. As we celebrate, let us also listen. More than 85% of the

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Scottish population has voted. People who were disengaged from

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politics have turned out in large numbers. In Downing Street, the

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Prime Minister promised more devolution for Scotland, Wales and

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Northern Ireland but said the question of independence had been

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decisively answered. Now the debate has been settled for a generation,

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or as Alex Salmond has said, perhaps for a lifetime. There can be no

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disputes, no reruns. We have heard the settled will of the Scottish

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people. But he suggested as a prize of more devolution for Scotland,

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Scottish MPs might have fewer rights at Westminster. We have heard the

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voice of Scotland and now the millions of voices of England must

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also be heard. The question of English votes for Inga Shores, the

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so-called West Lothian question -- English laws, requires a decisive

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answer. The first council to declare, Clackmannanshire in central

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Scotland, set the tone with a majority rejecting independence. No,

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19,036. CHEERING And the voters in Highland, the last

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council to give a result, gave the same answer. No, 87,739. The Yes

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campaign got the consolation of winning in Glasgow, Scotland's

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largest city. Yes, 194,000. No, 169,347. Turnout has been high, from

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75% in Glasgow to more than 90% in sterling. There were high spirits at

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the No campaign when they heard a majority of voters I decided to

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embrace the union and voted for Scotland to stay in the UK.

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About 20 minutes ago, the chief accounting officer, Mary Pitcaithly,

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delivered the final official declaration.

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The total number of votes cast in favour of each answer to the

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referendum question, for the whole of Scotland is as follows. Yes,

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number of votes, 1,617,989. No, number of votes, 2,001,926. There

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were 3429 rejected papers. The reasons for rejection are as

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follows. Want of an official Mark, 16 papers. Voting in favour of both

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answers, 691 papers. Writing or mark by which the voter could be

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identified, 168 papers. An marked or void for uncertainty, 2554 papers.

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Mary Pitcaithly, who admitted before the vote she was slightly nervous it

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would go without a hitch and indeed it did. As expected, there has been

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a huge amount of reaction here in Scotland, across the UK and abroad

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to the result. The mayor London, Boris Johnson said the outcome was a

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great day for Britain and a fantastic day for British

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democracy. Ukip leader Nigel Farage writes to Scottish MPs, asking them

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not to vote on English issues, which is something we will hear about a

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lot during the course of today. NATO Secretary General said he is

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confident the UK will continue to play a leading role in keeping the

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alliance strong following the result. So how did we get to this

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result? Jeremy Vine has taken a closer look.

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Yes on 45%, no of 55%, a clear 10% margin for the No campaign, wider

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than anything the polls were telling us in the fortnight running up to

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this dramatic day and night of voting and counting. Let me show you

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the map of Scotland after this result. We have coloured in the

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areas where the No campaign won the vote in red. You can see the four

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areas where the Yes campaign was ahead, Glasgow and surrounding

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areas, Dundee in the north-east. But largely, the map is coloured in red.

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If I take you back to the 32 council areas in which the voting was

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counted, you can see it is awash with red with so many councils,

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looking for the four green ones and if I order them, we will find them.

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Glasgow, the biggest, and North Lanarkshire, another big council. It

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was not enough. Edinburgh, five, South Lanarkshire and Aberdeenshire,

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the other huge councils went with no. The first results we had came in

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on the smaller councils like Clackmannanshire, Shetland, Orkney

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all coming in early in the evening and all going with no. It was quite

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some time before Dundee city became the first yes. After this

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extraordinary night, I can show you a spread of these council areas. No

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on this side and yes on this side. It illustrates, we won't call it a

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whitewash, this margin, but it is certainly a very convincing victory

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for those who argued that Scotland should stay in the UK. Look at these

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four councils, the yes votes. Dundee, West Dumbarton share,

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Glasgow and North Lanarkshire, the only four out of 32. Rundown with

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me, and you can see the other councils, you can see the margins

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increasing as you come down here, until we get to the councils which

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voted no most decisively. Scottish Borders, Dumfries Galloway,

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conservative leaning, on the border with England, Orkney and Shetland,

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the island councils. This was convincing, as you can see, in the

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end, only four council areas going with the arguments of those who said

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Scotland should leave the UK. Let's have a look at what the

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newspapers are saying. Most of them, perhaps all the ones I've got, went

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to bed before we got the final result but we got a nod as to how it

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was going to go. The Scotsman has, "the nation speaks". The Times has,

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"no camper digs victory". -- camp predicts victory. This will be one

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of the themes of today, "now we must pull together". There will be a

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church service of reconciliation over the weekend. " Churchmen and

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leaders call for the nation to unite". The interesting thing will

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be discussing the future devolution package whether Alex Salmond and the

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SNP will be part of it, or if they wait to see what Westminster comes

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up with and then agrees or reject it. The Daily Mail has Andy Murray

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facing a backlash for supporting Yes. But the main headline is, "a

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new dawn for Scotland". The daily record has a picture of a young

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child, perhaps not surprisingly, whose future will be determined by

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this vote. The daily Star says, "reunited we stand". And the sun has

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a man holding a placard saying, "the beginning is night". We're not sure

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if he has inside information but Norman Smith might have. Your

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thoughts about the result first. I am at the rally that the Labour

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Party are holding, a very relieved Labour Party, after their vote held

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up much better than expected in some of the West Coast constituencies. Ed

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Miliband will be coming in any moment now. APPLAUSE

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His message we understand will be recognising that the Scottish people

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have voted but also, he will be stressing that in the constitutional

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changes that are now going to take place, they must be driven by the

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people and not by the politicians. It has to be a grass-roots change.

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It cannot be Westminster simply imposing change on the Scottish

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people. That will be part of his message today. Presumably also they

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will be paying tribute to Gordon Brown's contribution, rather late in

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the day, some people thought, but he made what many believe was one of

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the greatest beaches of his life in the past week. -- greatest speeches.

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There is no doubt that Gordon Brown's intervention was pivotal

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insuring up the Labour vote. I went to a few of his rallies and it was

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extraordinary, the way he galvanised and motivated Labour Party support.

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There was a worry that because Alex Salmond had sought to present the

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SNP and independence as opening up the option of a more socially just

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Scotland, that might lead to a haemorrhaging in Labour support.

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Gordon Brown was brought in in the latter stages of the campaign, and

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you sense that really started to reverse it, solidifying the Labour

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vote with a much more traditional message. I suspect he will be viewed

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as one of the savers of the union, certainly one of the people who

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managed to stop many Labour voters going to the SNP. This is Joanna

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Lamont. Just to say, firstly, thank you everyone, very much for

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everything you have done to get us as secure as a result as we got

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yesterday. -- as secure a result. Duminy people to mention but all the

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politicians all know how much they did to deliver this result. I

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particularly want to thank all of our activists. We have done a

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fantastic job over a huge amount of time, under the greatest pressure,

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to make sure that our message of why Scotland should vote no got out into

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all beginning at ease. I particularly want to thank our young

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activists because they were absolutely in the front line. We

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know how difficult and divisive this debate was but right through all of

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this, you carried yourselves with dignity, pride, passion but never

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became partisan. It is that sense of commitment that we need to take

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forward into the next few years. I also know this was a huge job for

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Scottish Labour. We agreed to work with other parties but much of this

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campaign was driven by the Scottish Labour Party. As well as that, we

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were blessed that we came together as a Labour family from right across

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the UK, to make that case. We were strengthened by the solidarity and

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community am across our movement, -- right across our movement, giving

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expression to the solidarity we see in the UK. It was our unity and our

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strength and I want to thank everyone of you for coming and

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supporting us in this huge campaign. Yesterday. Everybody in this country

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voted for Scotland. It was not a No win or a Yes loss. It was the

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democratically decided position of the people of Scotland that we would

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stand united in the United Kingdom. That is what the people have decided

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and that is what we need to work with. We know it was a challenge. We

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know that people tested these arguments back and forwards, and

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when we look at this result, we know that it is time to celebrate the

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strength and energy of our campaign. But we also know it is a time of

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reflection, because it did divide our communities. There are people

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across Scotland now who are hurting, who have fought hard campaign as we

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did, but were on a different side. In this coming period, we must

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ensure that we conduct this debate in as respectable away as possible

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and in a way that reaches out to people, who are asking the same

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questions as asked but are coming to a different conclusion. This is a

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time to savour but not to be triumphalist. It is a time to

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reflect, to lick our wounds, to realise there are challenges but not

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to despair, because Scotland has made a decision. I have to also

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recognise in this position that we have got to, we should recognise the

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achievement of Alex Salmond, his lifetime passion getting to a point

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where this decision was made democratically, with a massive

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turnout and a massive engagement of the people of Scotland. We know that

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he and Nicola Sturgeon carried that campaign and drove that campaign and

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we understand that they will be hurting today. I raise to them both

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this commitment and this challenge, that in this next period, we need to

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come together. We understand, all of us, the importance of change in

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Scotland. We only need to look at what happened in Glasgow, to know

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that when people were voting yesterday, they were voting for

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change. Not just words, not just promises, but change absolutely

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delivered. That change will come all the better, all the stronger, if we

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draw on the energy and excitement and passion that people displayed

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over the last period, regardless of whether they were voting Yes or No.

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Our challenge will be to reach out, will be to open out our thinking

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beyond ourselves, way beyond politicians to people who understand

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the challenges that they face in the real world. This is my absolute

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commitment as the Labour Party leader. We are not retreating to

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barracks. We are not moving back to speak simply amongst ourselves. You

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are not hanging up your trainers, you are out there campaigning,

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meeting and critically listening to people about the change that they

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desire and the change that we can deliver. That is the challenge for

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all of us in the next period, to draw on that energy and make it real

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for people. It is fitting, I think, that we are here in the Emirates

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building, this fantastic building, created and built by the Labour

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Council for the people of Glasgow, but borrowed by the Commonwealth

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Games. It is fitting because when six weeks ago, the people of the

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world look to Scotland, they saw an open, modern, out with looking,

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passionate but not partisan Glasgow and Scotland. We have all been

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troubled in the last period, but when the world was looking at

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Scotland and looking at Glasgow in the last period, they saw division,

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they saw rancour and also energy and hope. They saw all of these things.

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The challenge is, if at the time of the Commonwealth Games we were able

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to come together, we were able to celebrate and be passionate without

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being partisan, we can do that again. We can deliver change, we

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will deliver the powers to the Scottish parliament that will give

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its strength. But we will also sustain our stability of the United

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Kingdom. We also know that politics and Scotland will never be the same

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again. We will all be charged with taking the energy of the last

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period, and making that political change in the way that we work and

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campaign, and the way that we listen to people. This place is a symbol of

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a modern, alt would looking Scotland and a country yearning for change.

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We are critical in delivering that and I look forward over the next

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period, when we have all rested, when we have all recognised that the

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decision has been made, how do we deliver the powers but also, how

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would we make the Scottish parliament and Scottish politics and

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the debates through all the political institutions be about

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people's real lives? I know we will rise to that challenge. We have

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achieved immense things together. We have won a political argument but we

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know there are many still to be persuaded. As we carry ourselves

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forward proudly in what is being achieved, we also have the humility

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to know that people were responding to a feeling that politics was not

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about them. Yesterday, politics was about the people and we must make

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sure that the Labour Party drives that forward in the coming period.

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Can I thank you all very much for all you have done. We know this is

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only the beginning of the next and exciting stage of creating and

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delivering change that the people in this country want.

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APPLAUSE And with that, can I now ask

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Alistair Darling to speak to us. We know the immense challenge he has

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risen to two coming to, heading up Better Together, making the case for

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Scotland being strong in the United Kingdom and showing that leadership

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and the passion and commitment, making that case, working with

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others, a living embodiment of what you can do when you cooperate with

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others when you have common aims. We are immensely grateful to you for

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what you have done and I know how much we all appreciate what you have

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delivered for us. We look forward to hearing from you.

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Thank you. Last night, we made history. The vote by the Scottish

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people last night, to say that our future lies in staying with the

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United Kingdom, has settle this question for a generation. All my

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adult life, the question has been around us, whether we should break

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away, whether we should stay part of the United Kingdom. At 6:10am this

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morning, that question was answered emphatically. 2 million people have

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voted to say we are Better Together as part of the United Kingdom. We

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have changed Scotland and we have changed the United Kingdom and we

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must hold on but for the good of the people we represent. People are

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desperate for change, change in the constitutional arrangements where we

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have a strong Scottish Parliament but also people want to see the

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world in which they live change. They want better jobs, they want

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more jobs. They want is a key funding for the health service, they

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want a better education for their children and above all opportunities

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for their children and grandchildren. We believe we can do

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that in Scotland but we do it best by working with the rest of the

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United Kingdom. It is not just constitutions we should be concerned

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with. Although we have made a clear commitment to the people of Scotland

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to strengthen the powers of the Scottish Parliament and we must

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deliver on that. One of the strength I think of the last couple of years

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as Johann has said, is that we have shown that we can work with other

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parties, and critically, work with many people of no party at all. One

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of the encouraging things about last night was not only the fact that the

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turnout was in the high 80s and some parts of Scotland 90% of the

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electorate voted, but people were engaged in this argument in a way I

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have not seen throughout my political life. It does demonstrate

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to me two things. As I say, we can work with other political parties

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when we agree with them. We disagree and will have to argue some points

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but when we agree we should work with each other. Also, if you have a

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popular cause, a good case to make, then you can accuse people which is

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something I think all the political parties of this country have to

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learn -- end use people. We can ensure that what we saw last night

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was not a one-off but perhaps it is the start of invigorating politics,

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not just in Scotland but throughout the United Kingdom. That brings me

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to the final point I want to make. Yes, we work together and the three

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political parties have entered into an agreement to strengthen the

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legislation of the Scottish Parliament. We must see that

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implemented on the timescale that was agreed. But of course, we do

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have differences with the other political parties on many issues. In

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just nine months time, this country will go to a general election to

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choose a government for the next five years. Every single one of us

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need to be out there hungry for that change, showing that we can

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demonstrate to people that the change they need for jobs, to make

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sure we can improve people's standards of living, that we can

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provide the opportunities that we need in the future, all of those

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things are absolutely necessary. I'm sure that the enthusiasm that all of

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you have shown, not just over the last 24 hours, but frankly over the

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last 24 months, you can keep it going for the next nine months, at

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least, as we move towards the general election. I believe that not

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only can we win the next election, but we will win the next election. I

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will play my part in that. I welcome Ed Miliband to speak to us. Thank

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you. APPLAUSE

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Friends, I want to start off by paying the warmest tribute to

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Alistair Darling because after the 2010 general election, he could have

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taken the easy way out. He could have decided to take a step

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back. He didn't because he cared about his country. He played one of

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the most important roles in keeping this country together. Alistair,

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thank you. Thank you for what you did.

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APPLAUSE And I also want to thank every

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member of Team Labour for what they did. I want to thank Johann Lamont

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for the brilliant work she has done. I want to thank Margaret Curran,

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Anna Sarwar, Jim Murphy, Gordon Brown, Douglas Alexander, every

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person who played that role in this campaign, let us applaud them today,

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friends. APPLAUSE

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There is another set of people I want to thank even more than that

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and that is you. This would not have happened without you. Thank you for

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the street stalls, thank you for the phone banking. Thank you for the

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leaflets. Thank you for pounding the streets in rain and shine. Friends,

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you will be able to tell your children and your grandchildren,

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that you helped keep our country together, and historic achievement

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and let us acknowledge it today. What was this a vote for? This was a

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vote for solidarity and social justice. This was a vote for our

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National Health Service. This was a vote for our welfare state. This was

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a vote for No because we know that we are Better Together. I want to

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say something also today, as Alistair acknowledge it and Johann

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did as well, to all of the people who voted yes, this Labour Party is

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determined to show over the coming years, that we can be the vehicle

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for your hopes, your dreams, your aspirations, for a better life for

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you, a better life for Scotland and a better life for the whole of the

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United Kingdom. Friends. Whether people voted No or Yes in this

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referendum, let's be absolutely clear. This was a vote for change.

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Change does not end today, change begins today. We know our country

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needs to change. We know our country needs to change in the way that it

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is governed and in who it is governed for. As Alistair said, we

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will deliver on stronger powers, for a stronger Scottish parliament, a

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stronger Scotland and I know that all party leaders will meet their

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commitments to deliver on that promise.

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APPLAUSE And we will also meet the desire for

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change. Across England, across Wales, across the whole of the

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United Kingdom, devolution is not just a good idea for Scotland and

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Wales, it is a good idea for England and indeed Northern Ireland as it

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already is as well. It is also the case, friends, that we must meet the

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thirst for change in reforming the whole of our country in who it works

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for. What I heard from people as I went around this campaign was I

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heard people talking about yes, stronger powers for Scotland, but I

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also heard people saying, how can my life get better? How can my son or

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daughter get a job? How can we deal with in security at work? How can we

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build a better future for our children and grandchildren? We know

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those were the questions people were asking. They were not just asking

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questions about the Constitution and the way our politics works. They

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were asking whether our country works for them and they were telling

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us, they were not just telling us this in Scotland, they were telling

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us throughout our country, that our country only works for a tiny elite

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few at the top and this Labour Party knows that must change and we will

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change it. APPLAUSE

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Friends, the last few weeks have been about keeping our country

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together. The last few months, the two years of this campaign, too. The

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next eight months are about how we change our country together. You

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know, we need a party that can speak for the whole of the UK. For every

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party, every part of the UK, every set of people in the UK. There is a

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party that can do that, friends. That is the Labour Party. That is

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our party. And this is our responsibility in the months ahead.

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Let us be able to tell our children, our grandchildren, that we

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did not just keep our country together, we changed our country

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together. That is our mission. That can be arid achievement. Thank you

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so much for what you did. Now let's go on and show the people of the

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whole UK how we intend to change our country. Thank you very much.

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APPLAUSE Ed Miliband at the Labour rally in

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Gaza, as Johann Lamont, for Scottish Labour put it, "we have won but we

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must not be triumphalist Rosebud. Norman Smith joins us from the

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rally. The word that most rock me in all of that was change, change

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begins now. This is not the end of a process but the beginning of one.

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What did you think? Yes, Gavin, Ed Miliband said there was a first for

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change, not just in Scotland but throughout the UK, and not just

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constitutional change, he was talking about political and economic

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change, in effect, trying to say that Labour is the vehicle for the

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kind of change... As Mr Miliband leaves the rally, he was trying to

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argue that Labour is the vehicle for much broader change than simply

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devolving more powers to England, Wales and Northern Ireland. In a

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way, it is more ambitious than the already very ambitious statement by

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David Cameron. Trying to seize the moment, to position the Labour Party

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to ride what Ed Miliband says is a first the change throughout the UK.

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-- first for change. -- thirst for change. Let's go to Joanna Gosling

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in Aberdeen. What are people saying about the result there? Yell at road

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is interesting because everybody went to bed last night with

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uncertainty and now they have woken with certainty which has been

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welcomed in particular by business leaders in this oil and gas rich

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city, one of Scotland's's economic powerhouses. Around 50% of the oil

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and gas firms were saying that the impact of the Scottish referendum

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was affecting investment and planning to their companies. They

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will be glad the uncertainty is over this morning. There are reports that

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people were delaying moving house as a result of the uncertainty. Let's

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take a closer look at the result in Aberdeen and across Aberdeenshire.

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It is a more marked a no vote than the national average. Aberdeen city

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voted by 41% for independence, 59% voting no. The turnout was high, as

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it was in many areas, 82% in the city. Across Aberdeenshire more

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broadly, Alex Salmond's constituency, 40% voted no and 60%

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voted -- 40% voted yes and 60% voted no with an 87% turnout. Let's touch

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base with a couple of voters, one voting each way so let's see how

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they are feeling. Patricia voted no and Paul voted yes. How are you

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feeling this morning? Quite relieved. It was a worrying case

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that the Yes vote came through. Did you ever waver? No, I was going to

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vote no throughout. I felt that we were too weak to stand alone and I

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was quite happy to be in a united country. Paul, were you strongly

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going to vote yes throughout? I was swaying between most of the time

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because I'm from North Wales but I have lived if the nine years and I

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have 2 Scottish children. My father-in-law persuaded me to vote

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yes. He is living abroad now but I basically gave him my vote. A bit of

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peer pressure, family pressure, was that an issue? You also work in the

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oil industry. Just up there. In the industry, they were all saying no.

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Yesterday, everyone was saying no. I decided to vote yes. Did you discuss

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it openly with your colleagues or feel pressure from them? A bit of

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pressure but I did not tell them how I was voting. A few of them knew.

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What about you? Did it divide friends and family? Were you all

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united? Friends and family were all united as No but some work

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colleagues were not sure which way to go. I would not say it divide us.

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I feel we are sensible enough to respect other people's opinions.

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Incredible turnout and a lot of votes don't see that. Have you whizz

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beanie gauged with politics? Has this galvanised you? No, I haven't.

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I am fiercely Scottish and I would love it if Scotland could have stood

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alone but I think it would be too hard. Thank you for joining us.

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Reflecting the views of a nation. Overall, the result was 55% in

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favour of remaining part of the union. Back to Gavin.

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Joanna from Aberdeen. Good morning if you are just joining us. I'm

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Gavin Esler, live in Hollywood on the day Scotland decided. CHEERING

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No to independence: Scotland makes its decision and chooses to remain

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part of the UK. 55% of voters said no to the question, "should Scotland

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be an independent country?" Turnout was at a record high. Alex Salmond

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urges Yes supporters not to be downhearted and hailed the turnout

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as a triumph of the democratic process. Let us not dwell on the

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distance we have fallen short. Let us dwell on the distance we have

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travelled and have confidence that the movement is abroad in Scotland

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that will take this nation forward and we shall go forward as one

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nation. Thank you Ray much. -- very much. After the promises made during

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the campaign, the result of the referendum means major changes to

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the way Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are governed. We

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now have a chance, a great opportunity to change the way the

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British people are governed and change it for the better.

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Good morning from Holyrood. This result is something which not only

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resounds across Scotland but has major implications for the way all

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of us are governed, throughout the UK. That means the debate is already

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engaged at Westminster. Matthew Amroliwala joins me from there now.

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It is going to be a very busy few months between now and the general

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election as people try to make sense of where we go next.

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Good morning, it really is, an avalanche of political questions to

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consider this morning. Interesting the former cabinet minister, Owen

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Paterson, is calling for Parliament to be recalled, just in the last

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before while. Let's go straight to Downing Street and our political

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correspondence, Vicky Young. You can almost sense the relief coming from

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number ten. That's right, the stakes were in friendly high for all of the

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Westminster parties but most of all for the man who sat behind this

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door, stayed up all night, David Cameron, watching the results coming

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in. Of course, the more decisive nature of the result means that he

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could come out here, defend the position of holding the referendum

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in the first place, that the question was asked and he now says

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it has been dealt with, possibly for a generation or a lifetime. Of

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course, that journey has finished. He feels he has dealt with the

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question but of course, he is immediately suggesting an avalanche

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of other questions about what happens to the way the UK is

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governed. Yes, he was straight on to that with a blizzard of

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constitutional changes ahead. It is almost like opening Pandora's box.

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It is and many people have spoken about this as the awakening of the

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English question. We have already had the former Cabinet minister,

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Owen Paterson, saying that these are rash promises made to Scotland

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without Parliament being asked about it. He says they are an fair to the

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rest of the UK, particularly England. He wants Parliament to be

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recalled immediately to discuss it. It does not look like that will

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happen. But we now have another timetable. We knew there would be

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one for Scottish devolution. Now William Hague, the Leader of the

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Commons, has said those two things will be tied together and they are

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trying to sort out what people call the English question, the fact

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Scottish MPs can come to Westminster and vote on what happens in English

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schools or Welsh schools, even though they themselves cannot vote

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in what happens in their own Scottish schools. Many ministers I

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have spoken to now say that this is going to have to be dealt with. But

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as you say, it is a very complicated thing. What we are getting now is

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certainly the Conservatives and Ukip, who are snapping at their

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heels, as we heard from Nigel Farage this morning, both of them vying to

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be the voice of England. That sets up my next guest worry well, talking

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about Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence party, who is with me

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this morning Westminster. Good morning. Your thoughts on the

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decisive vote last night? I'm pleased, despite the bungling

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attempts of the Westminster class to put everybody fit in Scotland, at

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the last minute, with a few panic measures, they managed to get a no

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vote. I am pleased the UK has held together. Mr Cameron will be very

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pleased because otherwise he would have been forced to resign. Do you

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support the promises made late in the day, in the final week by the

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three leaders? No, I don't. We should have offered devo-max, access

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to the devolution genie was out of the bottle and then talking about

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the new constitution settlement to the entire UK. Are you against the

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timing of the announcement or the giving of more powers? We heard from

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Vicky Young that Owen Paterson's description of rash promises made at

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the last moment. They were rash promises in one sense because what

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the three leaders said was that they would continue with the Barnett

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formula, by which money is divvied up among the citizens of the UK. A

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lot more money is spent per head in Scotland than in England. I don't

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think that promise can hold. When it comes to giving more powers to

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Scotland, nobody for the last 18 years has thought about England.

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England has been quiet for a long time and now deserves a voice. The

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Prime Minister addressed it right there in Downing Street, saying

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English voices need to be heard as part of the equation and the

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constitutional changes. What needs to happen, do you think? We need to

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have a constitutional convention, established as quickly as possible,

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so we have firm proposals are moving towards a federal UK, where everyone

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feels they have a fair voice and they are paying their fair share. Be

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more specific. This is a vexed question. It has puzzled politicians

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the decades. -- for decades. The timetable outlined by David Cameron

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is very fast to get the answers. It shows you how panicked he was. The

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question has not even been debated in Cabinet, William Hague admitted

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that this morning. It is playing catch up at the last minute. Mr

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Cameron is very scared of how English voters will see the promises

:42:27.:42:31.

made towards the end of the campaign. One way to start the

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process is if all 59 Scottish MP said today that in the interests of

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making it a very union they would promise between now and the next

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election not to take part in debates on votes on issues which affect only

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England. You wrote a letter and sent it to MPs this morning. In terms of

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the politics of all of that, would it not be a mistake if part of the

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thinking here was in one sense a trap for Labour? They have large

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representation from Scotland in terms of Westminster MPs. I

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understand and Ed Miliband has said that all parts of the UK must have

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devolution. That is fine, but will he promised that his 41 Scottish MPs

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will not take part in debates and vote in the House of Commons between

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now and the next general election? Unless the Labour Party are prepared

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to do that, frankly, those who want a fair, proper English voice will

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not take him seriously. What about the way the whole campaign

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absolutely lit up? You have spoken for years about disengagement. We

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saw rigs actually the opposite, there, didn't we? -- exactly the

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opposite. You broke it goes to show that if people can see elections

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actually matter and they can see different arguments on both sides,

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they will turn up to vote. One reason is for the falling turnout is

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that the main parties have become so similar in the last couple of

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decades and many of the big decisions that affect the economy

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and our lives are made somewhere else. Is this the end of it? Alex

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Salmond acknowledged the vote in his acceptance speech, but stared at

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this stage, an interesting flaws, people have rejected independence.

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The if you believe in separation, you will believe in it until the day

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you die, I suppose. In his case, I have no doubt of that. But the idea

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of Scottish separation has effectively gone for a generation.

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We have an urgent job to sort out a fair constitutional framework. Mr

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Cameron saying William Hague is in charge of a committee who will give

:44:26.:44:29.

a report in a few weeks is not good enough. Let's have an open,

:44:30.:44:32.

constitutional convention, do it properly. Thank you for joining us.

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Just a flavour of what has been opened up from what we have heard

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already from the Prime Minister. 20 more from here coming up. Back to

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Gavin. Indeed, and for a bit more of a

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flavour of what has been opened up, we heard from Owen Paterson and we

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have just heard from Nigel Farage, another Conservative backbencher,

:44:56.:44:59.

surge of Howarth, has tweeted, " major constitutional changes must

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not be rushed, because appeasing Scottish nationalism has brought us

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to the brink of disaster". People across Scotland have been

:45:05.:45:17.

reacting to the news. Here is what some workers in Glasgow had to say.

:45:18.:45:22.

I think it has to be accepted. Personally, I was a Yes but we have

:45:23.:45:29.

to embrace it, indigenous and new citizens of Scotland, take it

:45:30.:45:32.

together and go forward. There will be change. There has got to be

:45:33.:45:36.

change management handled carefully by Westminster and interact with

:45:37.:45:42.

that and go forward into Scotland and re-industrialise Scotland,

:45:43.:45:46.

perhaps? That could be on the agenda. Delighted we have kept the

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UK and delighted we have kept the pound. That is the most important

:45:51.:45:55.

thing, the most important thing for business anyway? Was that your main

:45:56.:46:00.

concern, the main thing that informed your decision to vote No?

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It was, yes. Mostly from customers, the feedback and suppliers, what

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they were wanting. They were wanting to know how they would get paid. We

:46:13.:46:20.

did not know what the currency was. A little bit disappointed because I

:46:21.:46:23.

am a yes vote and I think Scotland should be governed by ourselves. We

:46:24.:46:29.

have the resources. I do not know why the majority of people have not

:46:30.:46:35.

voted yes. I am disappointed. Common sense has prevailed. Personally, I

:46:36.:46:41.

do not think there is any need to break up the union. For Alex Salmond

:46:42.:46:52.

to avoid every major question, that pertains to our future and not

:46:53.:46:56.

answer it properly, ceases to amaze me.

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The thoughts of some workers in Glasgow. It has been a long

:47:03.:47:06.

campaign. It has gone on to two years. For me, the most striking

:47:07.:47:12.

comment of the campaign was a man in Shetland who when I asked him whose

:47:13.:47:18.

oil is it? He said it was the oil companies' oil. He was making the

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point that world economic factors and globalisation play a really big

:47:25.:47:27.

part in his judgement at least and perhaps the judgement of many other

:47:28.:47:30.

people in Scotland. For some thoughts about how this is going

:47:31.:47:34.

down in the business community, we can go to Simon Jack in the city of

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London. Thank you. As expected, the

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financial markets have given the result and the Sterling is up, the

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pound is up, the stock market is up. You can tell the story of the night

:47:50.:47:53.

by looking at the value of the pound. That Spike was the YouGov

:47:54.:47:58.

poll coming out at ten o'clock last night. This bike was when

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Clackmannanshire voted No. It was thought it could have gone either

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way. -- this Spike. The contingency plans that RBS had put in place to

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move south of the border, they can go in the bin now. The RBS price is

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up 4%, a big jump on opening this morning. We can get the thoughts of

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Alec Stewart, a fund manager here at Schroders. A lot of uncertainty has

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been swept away. -- Alex Stewart. There is still some political

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uncertainty under devolution and what form that will take, but it is

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not the break-up of the UK that we are talking about which would have

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been much more difficult to quantify. This Pandora's box that

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Matthew was referring to all of devolution and a lot of regions

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wanting their share of extra powers, does that matter to the UK as a

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whole or as long as the union stays together, it does not matter and the

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entirety stays the same? It matters in some ways. We have a general

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election coming up next year. We are not talking about big questions on

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currency, EU membership and so on at this stage and the potential of a

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split up of a country which would have been hard to quantify. On the

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EU membership idea, some people thought if it was a Yes vote, it

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would have been more likely that the UK would have exited the European

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Union. What do you think? That was our view that it would have been

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more likely that the Conservatives would have got in and they would

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have offered a referendum. This would be bad for UKIP as well. The

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governor of the Bank of England has said in his previous report, he

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pointed to the referendum and said one of the external shocks which

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could have happened before raising interest rates. What is the path for

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him? We believe interest rates will rise in the first half of next

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year. The Bank of England have said they are looking at it. They said

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uncertainty over the Scottish referendum was one reason for

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potentially holding back at the moment. It is not just here in the

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UK that this result is having resonance, also Spanish bonds. There

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are a lot of separatist movements around the world who were looking at

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this as a blueprint to look at how separatist forces in their own

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country would work. Absolutely. The Spanish were saying that any surge

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in independence would be bad for Europe and we have seen the rallying

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in Spanish bonds. The stock market is up two thirds of a percent.

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Simon, thank you. There has also been some reaction from one of the

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most respected is Miss figures in Scotland, Sir Ian Wood, who made an

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intervention fairly late in the campaign to say there was perhaps

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not as much oil as some on the Yes side were claiming -- the most

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respected figures. He said: I strongly believe this is in the

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strongest interests of our children and grandchildren. The UK government

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must now deliver on their undertakings on the wider devolved

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responsibilities to the Scottish Parliament and elsewhere.

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For more business reaction, I'm joined by Sir Mike Rake of the CBI

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in central London. How do think this will go down across the UK? I think

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businesses are really happy that this has occurred. Common sense has

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asserted itself and we will remain the single market, one currency, one

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set of principles. Are you concerned that the changes that go ahead means

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that the government will be involved in all kinds of constitutional

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things internally and then thinking perhaps about another referendum and

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where the UK should remain in the European Union? The most important

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thing is focusing to make sure this recovery is started and is

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accompanied by increased investment, productivity and wages.

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We do not want to see too much destruction for political reasons

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but we understand the devolution debate has to take place. We support

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local city initiatives and we think if there is to be a referendum on

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the European Union, we need to be clear up front to make sure it is a

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referendum based on the facts, the issues, the importance of the

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European Union to jobs and investment in this country.

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Underpinning everything you have been saying and businesses have been

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saying up and down the country, they do not like uncertainty. The

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uncertainties we think were being understated in terms of the costs,

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the length of time it would take to get resolution on the currency,

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membership of the European Union, disruption to trade, pensions and

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many other schemes and systems. That was causing real concern to

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business. We felt in the CBI that many of the benefits were being

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overstated in terms of the economy, jobs and growth. Thank you for

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joining us. Nick Witchel is at Balmoral for us.

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That is where the Queen is currently staying. I understand some people

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were up all night and having a look at what was on the television? I can

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certainly tell you that many of her senior officials were up all night

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and one must assume that they would have been briefing her and keeping

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her fully informed of the progress and the results. I think in common

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with many people in these parts, she will be feeling pleased that it is

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all over. Privately, I'm sure she's feeling enormous relief that

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Scotland has taken the decision that it has. I think she would have felt

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a profound sadness of the United Kingdom had broken up. She might

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have found that rather difficult to have coped with but she would have

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accepted the result. In terms of today, she and her officials would

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want the politicians to say what they want to say. They want the dust

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to settle but we do expect later today, perhaps this afternoon, a

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short written statement that logically I imagine will focus on

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the fact this has been Scotland's position, a decision for the people

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of Scotland as the Palace has said several times, but perhaps logically

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expressing the hope that after this divisive campaign, that Scotland

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will be allowed to move on and move beyond this decision in the best

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interests of Scotland. It was interesting that a sentence or even

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half a sentence uttered by Her Majesty the Queen at church that

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effectively people should vote sensibly, was interpreted up and

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down this country in all kinds of different ways? Yes, I think a great

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deal of thought went into that one sentence where she urged people to

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think very carefully about the future. I do say that there may have

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been some embers of her family who had been urging her to say more. She

:55:29.:55:33.

has a very shrewd sense of where the line is, beyond which it is improper

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and unacceptable for a constitutional monarch who is above

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the political fray to go. I think some thought went into what she did

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say, a politically neutral remark which was uttered, but did catch

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people's imagination but neither side felt affronted by. That was her

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only observation, her only contribution in the days leading up

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to this vote. Thank you for joining us from Balmoral.

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With all the results declared and Scotland rejecting independence, we

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are going to have a look back now at the highs and lows of a very

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interesting night, and night which will go down in history.

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It is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take Scotland's

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future into Scotland's hands. Yes, 194,000 779.

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CHEERING The BBC's forecast now is that

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Scotland has voted No to independence. No, 194,000... 638.

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Scotland has by majority, decided not at this stage, to become an

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independent country. I accept that verdict of the people.

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People who were disengaged from politics have turned out in large

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numbers. Just as the people of Scotland will

:58:24.:58:38.

have more power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of

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England, Wales and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say

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