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Here in the East: Questions over the sponsors of | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
Academies, after a successful head teacher quits his post. | :01:29. | :01:39. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2253 seconds | :01:39. | :39:12. | |
Here's one answer to the shortage Proof later, the academy where | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
ahead improved exam results quits after apparently falling out with | :39:16. | :39:22. | |
its sponsor. Many parents will be seeking to solve the problem by | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
moving their kids to another school. This this your ideal of a | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
classroom? The plans to turn an office block into a school to help | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
provide desperately needed schools places. | :39:33. | :39:39. | |
First, let's meet our guests, Elizabeth Truss, education minister | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
and Conservative MP for South West Norfolk, and Daniel Zeichner, | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
Labour's parliamentary candidate for Cambridge. I wanted to begin | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
with our sighing -- soundbite of the week, we hear from Simon Ash, | :39:52. | :39:55. | |
the chief constable of a Suffolk police who just days after the PCC | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
elections has announced he is to go in February. | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
I think we have got to be very careful we don't assume there | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
aren't a lot of good Chief officers developing behind us who are fit | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
and able to take on those roles. I am absolutely confident there are | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
really good colleagues are there who are already and I'm sure we'll | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
apply for this job. He seems they are dropping like | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
flies. On the day of the PCC elections came at the Essex chief | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
constable will not actually see out his 10 either. People like the | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
former home secretary, Charles Clarke, said this would be a | :40:28. | :40:34. | |
disaster. I don't think it is. The police | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
commissioners have just been elected, they have got their time | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
in office to show the difference they can make. What is going on | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
across the country is at their wrath changes in policing, we are | :40:43. | :40:48. | |
developing a national crime agency which will mean more monitoring of | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
crime at a national level, and people do move jobs, they move into | :40:52. | :40:58. | |
different jobs, that is perfectly natural. We will be able to judge | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
the results from the police commissioners in what happens in | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
four years' time, once they have had a period of time in office, | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
that is when we should judge the results. | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
We have been told more chief constables could go, this is a | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
shambles. Just the word I was going to use. | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
The last thing we needed, when crime was falling under the last | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
Labour government, was to compete reorganise the police service, at a | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
time when massive cut a be made as well. I have every sympathy with | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
the chief constables who have looked at it at the people did last | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
week and given it the thumbs down. Wasn't it hypocritical for your | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
party to support the elections, if you didn't support the role? | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
We didn't oppose the elections, but you have to put up candidates, it | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
would have been foolish not to have done so, but we thought it was a | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
total waste of money. Chief constables are saying the same | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
thing. Now, to the growing number of | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
Academy Schools in our region and what is to belief -- believed to be | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
the first is the, ahead of an academy in Basildon after falling | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
out with its sponsor. Dr Rory Fox, who has improved exam results by | :42:06. | :42:12. | |
one-third since taking over in 2011 is to leave, raising questions over | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
whether the academy system is at the mercy of private backers who | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
are not educational experts. They wear and still art schools and | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
special measures. But since Dr Rory fox became head of the Basildon | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
academies in 2011 results have been improving. Despite that Dr Fox has | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
resigned. Apparently it is over a difference of opinion with the | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
School sponsor about the way the schools are run. Which raises the | :42:42. | :42:47. | |
question, who is in charge of an academy? Is it their head or is it | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
the sponsor? In a statement the Department for | :42:51. | :43:01. | |
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The Basildon Academy's head and the sponsor have both declined offers | :43:04. | :43:09. | |
to comment. It is inevitable when the school has now got the | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
reputation it has, that many parents will be seeking to solve | :43:14. | :43:20. | |
the problem by moving their kids to another school. It does mean those | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
students whose parents are concerned about their progress have | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
gone nowhere else to go, which is crucially important for the | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
government to take action now to address these issues. | :43:32. | :43:38. | |
Despite exam results improving at the Academy's the row pupils like | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
Amaris Northcott he did agree with Dr Fox -- Dr Cox's discipline | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
regime that can see pupils being put into isolation for relatively | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
minor offences. He fell stressful, I did not want | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
to go. I had to go to school but it was really uncomfortable, I can get | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
on well. He mother says under the academy | :43:57. | :44:02. | |
system he seems there is no way for parents with concerns to go. | :44:02. | :44:08. | |
I was astonished how difficult it is as a parent to be heard. I went | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
to the welfare officer, everywhere committed try to get somebody to | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
listen to the problems going on, and the school were not doing | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
anything about it and they wouldn't return your call, speed you. | :44:20. | :44:22. | |
Traditionally county councils govern state schools. Under local | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
authority control Perez with concerns about a school can have | :44:26. | :44:32. | |
them addressed by the Council. However, academies are answerable | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
to the education secretary with the schools commissioner set-up to deal | :44:35. | :44:40. | |
with issues raised by parents. But confusion is widespread. Not even | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
Basildon's MP is aware of the commission's existence. | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
Up until this point I have had no need to contact them, but following | :44:48. | :44:51. | |
this interview I will find a what the role of the Schools Commission | :44:51. | :44:56. | |
is and how it can help facilitate contact. If this body exists, as it | :44:56. | :44:59. | |
obviously does, I will be looking at how it can help facilitate | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
better communication between schools and parents. | :45:02. | :45:06. | |
Parents who are pleased with Dr Fox's progress says the academies | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
are unhappy he is leaving. I think it is very sad. City has | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
been here the school has come up. It is really annoying to here he is | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
going. He has done a brilliantly good job. | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
His scenes when it comes to academies whether or not the | :45:23. | :45:28. | |
sponsor, governors or trust has a background in education, ultimately | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
it is the sponsor's decision whether a head stays or goes. | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
We believe the news -- the new head stars this week. Daniel, who should | :45:37. | :45:43. | |
be in charge of the school, a sponsor or ahead? I was a chair of | :45:43. | :45:45. | |
governors for many years, it ought to be the head teacher. They're the | :45:45. | :45:50. | |
experts, the professionals. Having these shadowy private organisations | :45:50. | :45:55. | |
that nobody knows how to hold to account is wrong. I am sure some of | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
the organisation's will quibble with you calling them shared a week. | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
What qualifications should a sponsor have? | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
Sponsors go through a rigorous process through the Department of | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
Education to be sponsors of academies, to make sure they are | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
fit to undertake that role. The problem with what Daniel is | :46:14. | :46:19. | |
suggesting is who judges their head teachers. If the head teacher isn't | :46:19. | :46:24. | |
doing a good job and her teacher is in charge had we make sure Keith is | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
caught improves? There was a full system of accountability. Schools | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
are accountable to OFSTED, if offset their good judgment the | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
school isn't doing well enough that is a factor. They at a canter more | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
through their floor standards. If needs be the Department of | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
Education can step in. There is a rigorous process that Academy | :46:42. | :46:45. | |
sponsors go through without determining whether or not an | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
Academy can sponsor a particular school. The Academy programme has | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
had huge benefits for our education system. The whole concept of | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
Academy sponsors was introduced and the Labour government side cannot | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
quite see why the Labour Party representative is objecting. Labour | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
was focusing attention on schools in the poorest areas were they | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
really needed a big investment. What this government has rushed | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
head lock into converting all schools into academies, and making | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
no account of the kind of local accountability his parents are | :47:18. | :47:25. | |
talking about. There's talk about the concept of private | :47:25. | :47:28. | |
organisations leading academies. You cannot know the conditions of | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
every school around this country. If parents are concerned they can | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
go to local people. There's talk about Michael Gove. My | :47:37. | :47:41. | |
understanding is he is at the top of the tree, that Parma for | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
Education has responsibility for answering questions about these | :47:45. | :47:50. | |
academies. You have introduced a vast number of academies. How is Mr | :47:50. | :47:55. | |
Gove able to cope with administering 2000 schools? | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
whole point is through the selection process these we make | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
sure the care the responses of fit for purpose it was invented under | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
the previous Labour government. We thought was a good idea so we have | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
continued and expanded it. The whole concept of the private | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
sponsor was the idea of Andrew Adonis, the Labour government | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
minister. We support the concept, we have introduced it further. All | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
the evidence from systems across the world suggest autonomy is | :48:21. | :48:24. | |
really important, so that schools have power over things like | :48:25. | :48:30. | |
teachers' pay, the curriculum, how they run and organiser school and | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
how these a budget. That has been very successful. In a small number | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
of cases where there are problems, there is schools commissioner whose | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
role it is to look at those problems within the Department for | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
Education. There is a sanction. The whole point is academies a really | :48:46. | :48:54. | |
raising the Game of the performance of the education system. Daniel, | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
what about this commission and, do you think parents are ill-informed | :48:58. | :49:06. | |
enough about their very existence? The have got no idea. The point is | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
we have a system where plenty of schools were actually functioning | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
extremely well, very high standards in the City and Cambridge, he | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
didn't need this organisation. What was needed was the schools that | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
were really struggling. That was Labour's approach and the right | :49:21. | :49:25. | |
thing to do. This is actually about a mass privatisation of education, | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
ultimately to run schools for profit. Their stay with education. | :49:29. | :49:36. | |
There is a shortage of places in our primary schools. In some parts | :49:36. | :49:39. | |
the fastest-growing region of the country getting a school places | :49:39. | :49:43. | |
becoming a real challenge. In Peterborough the council has had to | :49:43. | :49:47. | |
create an additional 10 classes for children in their first year at | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
school. According to local authority figures we estimate by | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
2016 there will be another 42,000 children needing to stop prime we | :49:57. | :50:00. | |
schools across the region and there are currently no places for half of | :50:00. | :50:06. | |
them. Year 6 pupils in nearby new | :50:07. | :50:14. | |
classroom. This extension beasts pupil numbers from 422630. But at | :50:15. | :50:18. | |
near by Northampton Vale they are still waiting for their new school | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
buildings, some youngsters are taught in mobile classrooms. | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
Because Peterborough Leeds City Council is struggling to | :50:24. | :50:29. | |
accommodate growing pupil numbers. The City has the second highest | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
birthrate outside London and there is a massive inward migration, | :50:32. | :50:36. | |
largely from the senior up. We are seeing families that have four | :50:36. | :50:37. | |
children under attending for different schools, because we | :50:37. | :50:42. | |
simply cannot get them into the local area. About five years ago we | :50:42. | :50:47. | |
were taking 2,500 children into reception, this year we are at | :50:47. | :50:53. | |
2,800, I expect to be 3,500 him if he is kind. By have schemes on our | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
books for about �80 million worth of school extensions, paid for from | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
the council tax payer in a local area through the local authority. | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
We cannot sustain that going forward, that will not do with the | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
increases. We have an acute funding pressure coming. It is not just | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
money. There is also a shortage of land to build new schools. Another | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
council is looking at the All hospital site and a disused railway | :51:20. | :51:24. | |
shed. Elsewhere in Northampton the local authority wants to convert | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
this former office block into a new school. The Union says there has | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
hardly any play area and the building itself is unsuitable. | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
is very difficult to increase the space around the site, so that is | :51:37. | :51:44. | |
likely to result in problems with discipline, not be able to have | :51:44. | :51:51. | |
told you groups meeting in the hall, at restrictions on productions can | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
put on. All those things are important for George and education. | :51:54. | :52:00. | |
It is not just about what they're doing in the classroom. Have been a | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
different approach around the use of a building like this, over three | :52:03. | :52:08. | |
stories, that is not new, we have had that in London, Bristol, for a | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
long time. It is just new in this council. Good space outside, | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
potentially looking a space on the roof, that has been done elsewhere | :52:16. | :52:21. | |
in terms of playground on the roofs of buildings. We also know there | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
are parks and things nearby. We just need to think little bit more | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
imaginatively. The school would be attached to this primary-school. | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
Family said mixed-use. Go for it. Anything that isn't did, why not | :52:35. | :52:41. | |
use it? If the office block was in a better place, it is in a very | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
busy traffic every year and has not much ground surrounding it for play | :52:44. | :52:50. | |
times. I have got into of Abington Vale last year because the put | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
extra class indeed reception so it is really disappointing that nobody | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
has thought about it sooner to do something about the problem. | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
problem was in its secondary schools. Officials describe it as a | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
ticking timebomb. The real pressure will come when youngsters that have | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
been part of this boom start to make their way through to secondary. | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
We have already had a conversation with the secondary head teachers in | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
and around Northampton about options. We believe we will have to | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
build at least one it you secondary-school. Also we may have | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
to look at other buildings such as this, to add to our secretary | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
capacity. Council officers say they can see no end to the current | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
population boom. It means sites like this could be more, in the | :53:34. | :53:39. | |
future. 20 mean out his Councillor Andrew | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
Grant, Northamptonshire's Cabinet member for children, learning and | :53:42. | :53:46. | |
skills. What is the picture when it comes for places in | :53:46. | :53:51. | |
Northamptonshire? How will you cope? We had a problem in January | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
were we had a number of late applications after all the | :53:54. | :53:58. | |
admissions had been done, add we spent time during the summer | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
identifying the number of schools where we could but temporary | :54:02. | :54:07. | |
measures, we'll put in plans together to extend his school's | :54:07. | :54:09. | |
permanent extensions. We looked at the office block which defeated | :54:09. | :54:15. | |
earlier. These are all part of the solutions to meet the rising boom | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
in terms of newborn birth and inward migration and we have had a | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
late number of more applications from piece -- people from Eastern | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
Europe. He pulsate You know how many babies have been born so you | :54:27. | :54:33. | |
have for years to make provision. We currently have in September 1956 | :54:33. | :54:39. | |
1,000 children in our promise course, we are forecasting by 25 | :54:39. | :54:46. | |
per and 15 42,000 -- and in 20th September 107400 places. Obviously | :54:46. | :54:51. | |
that is using all our intended capital the government intends to | :54:51. | :54:58. | |
provide. We are a growing county. Whisk the new census figures being | :54:58. | :55:02. | |
released we'll finally been able to Pru finally we need the extra money | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
we haven't had in the past. What about the role of academies. You | :55:06. | :55:14. | |
have no control over their intake. We welcome them. We had a number | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
that converted under the previous government, some have continued | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
through failing to convert, a number have converted. We have a | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
great relationship with the number of schools we are proposing to | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
extend which up academies, we are working closely together, and of | :55:28. | :55:31. | |
the Sleep we want to continue to provide all other children with the | :55:31. | :55:37. | |
best possible education outcomes. Daniel, are you aware of the | :55:37. | :55:42. | |
position in Cambridge? It is really that here too. Down the road we | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
have got another shambles will we have a new school that has opened, | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
the old school site is across the road, we would like to reappear but | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
the current government will not let the County Council do, it assisted | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
has to be an Academy of free school to the government is making the | :55:56. | :56:02. | |
situation worse than need be. Labour got rid of mobile classrooms, | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
and discovered is that a mobile classrooms back. What about this | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
position academies put local operatives in where they have no | :56:08. | :56:14. | |
control? We have provided a further 800 million basic need funding for | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
councils were the population is rising. We have seen councils third | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
Peterborough and more fun de sure of finding solutions, three schools | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
and academies help. -- Northamptonshire. There is a free | :56:26. | :56:30. | |
school in Corby which provides extra places. I go the we should | :56:30. | :56:33. | |
look at the baby boom as wholly negative, he's a new children | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
growing up, some countries are struggling with the birth rate and | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
not getting next generation through. We have got an opportunity year, | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
lots of young people coming through this is done, I think that is great. | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
The thing we haven't talked about here is teachers. The most | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
important factor it in a tell dedication isn't the building their | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
run, that is how good the teacher is. What we're doing is providing | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
bursaries to get more people into teaching, to attract top graduates, | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
and that is what will really make a difference. I don't think we should | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
be wholly negative about this. It is a positive thing we have got | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
more young people. There's been a BECTU provision of places, who is | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
going to have an overview of her -- let's bring it back to provision of | :57:14. | :57:24. | |
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places. The answer is that -- the local authority is responsible for | :57:25. | :57:28. | |
sufficiency. The fund deja a working with academies, free | :57:28. | :57:34. | |
schools, to make sure there are enough places Bath Northamptonshire. | :57:34. | :57:38. | |
In my county of Norfolk County Council take a positive attitude | :57:38. | :57:43. | |
towards academies, they see there'll a strategic rather than | :57:43. | :57:46. | |
trying to Connacht cause, they are making sure there is the | :57:46. | :57:56. | |
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sufficiency of places available for students. There's give the county | :57:56. | :58:00. | |
council's the position where they are understanding the overall | :58:00. | :58:08. | |
changes. Array to bring Councillor Grand beckoned. Is there money to | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
pay for all these things? Is there money to provide places for these | :58:11. | :58:16. | |
children? There is basically money allocated and we are assuming the | :58:16. | :58:19. | |
government will continue to fund that in the next four years, hence | :58:19. | :58:23. | |
why we are planning the places we are. Providing it is maintained we | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
will deal with those places. We will also have money that will | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
provide additional resources but it is right we make the allegations of | :58:31. | :58:36. | |
the money that we get from government going to the best use we | :58:36. | :58:39. | |
can, and if that is in the build extensions or looking at | :58:39. | :58:45. | |
alternative accommodation, we will get body formally for our taxpayers. | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
Labour induced the ideas of academies. Do you not agree this | :58:49. | :58:55. | |
has put local authorities in a difficult position? Going back to | :58:55. | :58:58. | |
the point, academies were introduced by Labour for the small | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
number of telling just schools which needed a new start, we did | :59:02. | :59:05. | |
not take away the structure above them which was needed to allocate | :59:05. | :59:08. | |
resources in a sensible way. There is no middle to a stricter in | :59:08. | :59:11. | |
education. Basically, it is going to be a free-for-all, and they | :59:11. | :59:15. | |
really fear for what we will see in any of our counties in the East of | :59:15. | :59:19. | |
England in the years ahead. We will have to leave their discussion to | :59:19. | :59:26. | |
stop that queue for the time. -- thank you for your time. She may be | :59:26. | :59:35. | |
out but is she down, it is a jungle Basildon Hospital is facing fresh | :59:35. | :59:37. | |
concerns over its standard of childrens' care following a spot | :59:37. | :59:46. | |
check by the Care Quality Commission. It is disappointing and | :59:46. | :59:50. | |
people be confident in the fact this hospital can deliver a decent | :59:50. | :59:55. | |
level of care. And caring for our fish stocks | :59:55. | :59:59. | |
prompted one MP to call for an end to illegal poaching from our lakes | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
and rivers. This is an issue of criminality. If you take fish and | :00:03. | :00:08. | |
don't return them it is theft. A welcome for Bedfordshire's new | :00:08. | :00:11. | |
Police and Crime Commissioner, one of eight who have taken up their | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
posts this week. And joy from Labour as new MP for | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
Corby, Andy Sawford, takes his place in the House of Commons. | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
urge all part of the public sector and the private sector as well, to | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
consider the case for a living wage of �7.45 per hour. | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
Meanwhile MP Nadine Dorries, leaves the jungle and defends herself | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
against the former chief whip. didn't give me permission for the | :00:34. | :00:41. | |
sherbety did give me the permission to have the month away. You were to | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
be an MP, would you do that? don't think so. It was poor | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
judgment but she probably did better than the Billington boys | :00:47. | :00:56. | |
would have done. Has she disgraced error office? Well, I think that is | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
a Dutchman for her local constituency party. -- judgment. | :01:02. | :01:07. | |
What a would say is I don't envy her time in the jungle, all those | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
rats and dogs looked horrible to me and I have got no intention of | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
going anywhere near it. How are you doing her appearance? There was a | :01:14. | :01:22. | |
lot of MPs watching the show and seen it. She has been away for a | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
while, I think she needs to come back and talk to the parliamentary | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
party. What about the fact that people are saying she has reached | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
at younger people, they'd MPs hip and trendy? Not buy you are not | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
already. I think she has lately demean the Office. Are we allowed | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
to nominate other MPs? I would love to see Michael Gove with the plight | :01:44. | :01:49. | |
of cockroaches? It would be a great picture. | :01:49. | :01:52. |