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In the artist: Well plans to set up more free schools mean greater | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1801 seconds | :01:40. | :31:41. | |
choice for parents or chaos in the Welcome to your part of the show. | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
Coming up: Three new free schools are planned for Newcastle. Is it | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
widening choice for parents or is it a recipe for educational chaos | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
and the City? Joining me to talk about that and the latest news on | :31:55. | :32:00. | |
employment is the Stockton North MP Alex Cunningham and Sunderland | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
Conservative councillor Robert Oliver. We will also have our very | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
own singing MP. First, unemployment may have fallen nationally but it | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
has gone up in the north. 6,000 more people were added, according | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
to the latest figures, pushing the unemployment rate to 11.5%, the | :32:18. | :32:28. | |
highest in the UK. It was also up in Cumbria. Here is Mark Denton. | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
This man lost his job last July in a railway call centre, and is still | :32:32. | :32:38. | |
out at work. I am looking all the time, in the papers, TV, and I am | :32:38. | :32:45. | |
not getting anywhere. I have got a wealth of knowledge of the railway, | :32:45. | :32:50. | |
and it is not being used. Sometimes I don't want to get a because I | :32:50. | :32:55. | |
wonder why I should. Robert says the government is for getting older | :32:55. | :33:01. | |
unemployed people like a him. tend to look at the youngsters. | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
Kids leaving school, late 20s, early 30s, but there is nothing for | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
myself. I would like to see them make some sort of effort to get | :33:10. | :33:16. | |
older people like myself into work. Robert is one of 140,000 people in | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
the north-east who are unemployed. Behind the overall figure there are | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
some particular blackspots. Unemployment in we're Valley is | :33:24. | :33:34. | |
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11.7%. Things are even worse on Teesside. Unemployment is 12.7%. | :33:34. | :33:42. | |
Hartlepool has a figure of 14.1%. The highest unemployment in the | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
region is Middlesbrough. But here, one bright spot. This local | :33:47. | :33:54. | |
engineering firm is expanding and taking on 50 new staff. It has also | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
moved into this new factory as a result of a grant from the | :33:58. | :34:05. | |
Government. This is an example of what grant funding can do. We won 2 | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
significant contracts of, but we would not have one men if we could | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
not demonstrate the strength of the business. Hopefully we will | :34:13. | :34:18. | |
continue to maintain the greater growth. And more jobs? That is the | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
plan. But many other workers across the region are worried about the | :34:22. | :34:31. | |
future. The chairman of the Institute of | :34:31. | :34:36. | |
Directors is Ian Dormer who runs his own engineering firm in | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
Berkeley. Does this paint a grim picture? There is nervousness. We | :34:40. | :34:49. | |
must not ignore that fact. Maybe the rise in numbers is due to a | :34:49. | :34:52. | |
high number of public sector workers losing their jobs over the | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
last months. But your report said there are some really good core | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
businesses. I think that is one thing we must not forget. The | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
north-east has a terrific engineering history, which is where | :35:04. | :35:10. | |
the strength of the area comes from. But it is going to be difficult for | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
certain groups, including Robert who has an older worker, and youth | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
unemployment, some of those people struggle for employers to take them | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
on. Robert was at a cost centre, and it looks like he has changed | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
his job several times, and he has been able to modify and work in | :35:27. | :35:33. | |
several things. But at the moment no one will went -- will employ her. | :35:33. | :35:37. | |
But they will. Someone who can be flexible like that has a much | :35:37. | :35:47. | |
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greater opportunity at getting it job. We saw a successful recipient | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
of the regional growth fund. But we have heard that it is costing too | :35:51. | :36:00. | |
much to keep this going. Does the fund need changing? I always treat | :36:00. | :36:06. | |
these funds with a little bit of scepticism. Also, when we look at | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
their investments we have to take a longer term view. Being able to | :36:10. | :36:15. | |
take a 12 month snapshot is a bit early, so we have to take a longer, | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
midterm sorter view, then we can decide if it has worked. Does the | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
government need to do more? Some people say business needs to work | :36:22. | :36:25. | |
harder, but does the Government need to work harder to create | :36:25. | :36:30. | |
growth? There are so many rules and regulations that businesses have to | :36:30. | :36:36. | |
tackle, and we need to be able to give business the chance to work | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
hard and achieved something. That would be the great thing. But what | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
government can do is put infrastructure expenditure in. The | :36:44. | :36:48. | |
north-east has shouted about having a better road network for many | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
years. That is something that would make a difference here. | :36:50. | :36:55. | |
Thank you very much. Alex, we had a couple of months | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
where unemployment fell in the north-east sources hard to draw too | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
depressing a conclusion from one month. No, when you have 6,000 | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
people added to the list, and a vast number of people who are long- | :37:09. | :37:14. | |
term unemployed. This morning I met with the people responsible for a | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
work programme who told me they had managed to place 500 people in the | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
last 12 months which is not a lot. She is working extremely hard to do | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
the right thing but it is not working for the people. As Ian | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
Dormer said, you must know when stopped and there is a hard core of | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
noughties businesses that are creating jobs. -- north-east | :37:35. | :37:42. | |
businesses. There are. Many businesses want to create the | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
things for the offshore wind industry but we need the jobs | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
coming through on the orders coming through to create more jobs. I know | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
there are people to invest but companies across the country are | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
sitting on billions of pounds and they are afraid to invest at this | :37:56. | :38:00. | |
time. We need to encourage them to invest and create the jobs we need. | :38:00. | :38:07. | |
Robert, with unemployment growing, is this the sign that the | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
Government is failing in the regions? It is too early to tell. | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
We have also got to take into consideration that the | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
international context is difficult. We are facing the largest | :38:18. | :38:25. | |
financial... I do not want are going to Europe. -- to go into | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
Europe. Unemployment is higher here, and we must not forget what is | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
happening in Greece which has to have an impact. That is the major | :38:34. | :38:44. | |
trading partner. But some parts have seen their unemployment fall. | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
There is a story within a story there. Unemployment has fallen in | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
Sunderland by 183 which has a small fall, but it has fallen. One of the | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
reasons is the Government increases in funding for companies like | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
Nissan, where you have sustainable jobs and jobs that are very | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
accessible for the population of Sunderland. That is the way forward, | :39:05. | :39:12. | |
to ensure companies like Nissan who are able to expand have the tools | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
to do the job. But there are not working for the people. We have | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
seen an increase of 544 % in the number of young people unemployed | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
over 12 months. It is not working for young people. Surely we need to | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
see something more in order to stimulate jobs and opportunities | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
for them. Youth unemployment has been around for a long time, but | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
one of the things that is being done to tackle youth unemployment | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
is apprenticeships, and the take-up of apprenticeships in the north- | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
east has been a very large indeed, and that shows that apprenticeships | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
are quite suitable for a lot of people in the north-east. They have | :39:50. | :39:56. | |
the right skills to be matched to it. Robert Oliver, the figures this | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
week also suggested that, particularly among men, there has | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
been a drop in earning power. Weekly wage has dropped �45 a week. | :40:04. | :40:11. | |
How well the economy increase when people earn less money? You can | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
also see this in a different way that wage restraint may be | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
cushioning some of the blow for unemployment because there are | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
certain countries in Europe that have a higher unemployment than the | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
United Kingdom. Alex Cunningham, people are keeping their jobs even | :40:27. | :40:35. | |
if they are being paid less? Yes, and they are cutting their hours. | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
People are now a part-time workers, and that is why the unemployment | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
figures are not higher than the Danaher. They are earning less and | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
gone to parting which has to be worse for the economy. Thank you | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
very much. The Government has given parents, | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
teachers and voluntary groups the chance to run their own free | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
schools. They say it will mean more choice. What about that schools | :40:57. | :41:04. | |
that already exist? What will be the impact on them? Two of the new | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
schools will be opened in the West End of the city. That has prompted | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
a fierce war of words with the council claiming it could lead to | :41:12. | :41:18. | |
existing schools closing down. These mums have already signed up | :41:18. | :41:24. | |
their toddlers for a potential new free school. A free school like the | :41:24. | :41:32. | |
proposed one gives emphasis to certain things that are valued like | :41:32. | :41:38. | |
an outdoors learning. Especially in the area early years. A massive | :41:38. | :41:43. | |
influence to me was the idea of nurturing each individual child's | :41:43. | :41:51. | |
passions. Phases of the future and concentration in the classroom here. | :41:51. | :42:01. | |
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-- faces. This was built with financial and issued... There will | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
be choice for parents to have a larger catchment area, which may | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
mean that they choose to free school rather than our School, and | :42:11. | :42:17. | |
I think that is quite detrimental because in Newcastle we all try to | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
serve her own communities, and it splits up the community a bet. It | :42:21. | :42:30. | |
would be a little bit of a mistake, I think, to be divisive in the area. | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
Where would the free schools go, and who is behind them? One is | :42:33. | :42:39. | |
being put forward by the parish church, and would educate pupils | :42:39. | :42:48. | |
from four years until 18, and have a Christian ethos. The other would | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
be in the West End of Newcastle and would be aimed at pupils between | :42:51. | :42:56. | |
the ages of 11 and 18. Thirdly there is a proposal for a primary | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
school, again in the West End of Newcastle, which has been put | :43:00. | :43:08. | |
forward by a charity. But the council says they would be in | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
competition with the other schools in the region, including this one. | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
There is a debate around with are not you think education should be | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
open to market forces or not. In Newcastle we have 3,000 surplus | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
places which means we have to manage the schools effectively. | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
Introducing new schools into the system without any proper controls | :43:30. | :43:35. | |
and regulation of those schools means it simply exacerbates the | :43:35. | :43:39. | |
surplus places problem and would lead to school closure us. Those | :43:39. | :43:42. | |
behind a free school proposals denied they would be disrupting | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
education in the city. They say they would enhance it, offering | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
more choice and flexibility and a unique style of education not | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
available elsewhere. I appreciate any child that are tens of free | :43:56. | :44:06. | |
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school will be taken... We would hope this school would respond | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
positively and work with the City Council to provide a better quality | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
of education throughout the city for the children. It is the | :44:13. | :44:19. | |
children who are important. All the proposals for free schools are now | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
being considered by the Department for Education. Supporters say they | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
will shake up education, and critics say they are an experiment | :44:26. | :44:32. | |
that could go wrong. Alex, the truth is that councillors | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
resist this because it threatens their control over schools. If the | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
schools are good for the system, that it is what counts. No, local | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
authorities are coming to terms with academies that had been | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
created. People are opting out of the local authority world, and free | :44:48. | :44:51. | |
schools are part of the new thing that is coming to the fore. But if | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
there are going to be free schools, which I am not against, they should | :44:55. | :45:00. | |
be in the right place to serve and need. Whether this is a need in the | :45:00. | :45:09. | |
Newcastle West End, I very much doubt. But our parents not in the | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
best place to describe this? they think the local schools are | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
not good enough, they should be working with this goes on putting | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
pressure on politicians and school governors to drive up standards, | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
which is important. We do not want to create a situation where we | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
spend millions of pounds opening a new school for people to leave one | :45:28. | :45:31. | |
school into the other. That is not the way forward. We need to drive | :45:31. | :45:36. | |
up standards. Robert, this is madness in any area where there are | :45:36. | :45:41. | |
surplus places to be opening potentially three new schools. | :45:41. | :45:44. | |
lot of the news about free schools has been exaggerated because demand | :45:44. | :45:49. | |
is important to any application for free schools. He will never get | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
loads of free schools opening and damaging the system. They will only | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
happen where there is evidence based demand from parents for it. | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
Michael Gove is keen on this idea. He will not try to stop parents | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
doing a list. But if you look at the first tranche of free schools, | :46:07. | :46:11. | |
only one in 10 is accepted by the Department for Education. It has | :46:11. | :46:15. | |
never been the idea that you will get lots of free schools in the | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
city, you will get them where they are needed. A free school would | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
lift all schools in a local authority, not just one school. | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
There is a good example in the constituency next to mine, there is | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
an application for a free school which needs a more secondary school | :46:31. | :46:38. | |
places, but pupils have a choice of the best three schools in the | :46:38. | :46:44. | |
region already. But surely the good schools will have nothing to fear, | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
the parents will not leave schools that are good schools are. But what | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
will happen is there will be adrift of pupils from the other parts of | :46:52. | :46:58. | |
the region into the schools... does that matter? It does matter | :46:58. | :47:03. | |
because it is important that communities have a school, and it | :47:03. | :47:08. | |
is about driving up standards. It is not about building buildings. We | :47:08. | :47:11. | |
have to work with schools where they are feeling and not doing so | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
well, to make sure they drive up standards. Another building with a | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
different set of governors is not the answer. Robert, people just | :47:20. | :47:27. | |
want good schools, don't they? Hundred it would be better | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
concentrating resources on the existing schools. -- it would be | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
better. People have the opportunity to set up free schools. Including | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
charities. But you are giving more people choice of every school has a | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
good school for. One of the ways to do this is by introducing other | :47:45. | :47:47. | |
competitors and allowing them to make sure that other schools | :47:48. | :47:54. | |
respond to that. If you look at evidence on academies, reports show | :47:54. | :47:57. | |
that where you have academies it drives up quality in all the | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
schools round about it, not just the Academy. | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
Thank you. Sometimes I feel like breaking into song. It must be | :48:07. | :48:11. | |
something to do with working at the BBC. I am not the only one, it | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
seems. This week the Blyth MP Ronnie Campbell did his own | :48:15. | :48:25. | |
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audition for he Voice when the The first shipment of steel from | :48:30. | :48:39. | |
the blast furnace has sailed from Teesport. The Newcastle North MP | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
has joined Labour's Treasury team as part of Ed Miliband's reshuffle. | :48:43. | :48:51. | |
The Bishop of Durham has criticised the impact of higher interest loans. | :48:51. | :48:56. | |
The Church has always been an a position to say that certain things | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
oppress people on the edge who are vulnerable, and that is wrong. | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
Finally, the Blyth MP Ronnie Campbell has criticised David | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
Cameron by breaking out into song. He turns to the Deputy Prime | :49:09. | :49:19. | |
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# I beg your pardon, I didn't It is a yes from me! Ronnie, the | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
bishop and what he raised about pay their loans, is he right to raise | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
the issue? He is right to raise the issue and the church has a very | :49:46. | :49:52. | |
strong voice in politics. It has to be consistent, it has to criticise | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
Labour governments and Conservative governments equally on behalf of | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
people who are marginalised. He has criticised pay-day loans, and I | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
think his views are a little exaggerated because they are not | :50:03. | :50:07. | |
doing anything illegal. Some people might want to take these loans | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
tough -- to tide them over until next pay-day. But he has an | :50:12. | :50:15. | |
important issue about how much interest is paid and about how we | :50:15. | :50:20. | |
should be very clear to anyone who is taking a loan. Alex, these pay- | :50:20. | :50:23. | |
day loans sometimes help through a short-term crisis. Are they any | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
worse than high-street bang? bishop is right to be involved, but | :50:27. | :50:33. | |
before we came out I checked some of the offers. 2770 % for a pay-day | :50:33. | :50:41. | |
alone, or you can get a bargain of 1170 %. They are legal sharks and | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
they are taking advantage of the most vulnerable people in the | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
society. We have to do something about it. But is there. Not that | :50:49. | :50:59. | |
people do in the short term loans sometimes? -- is the point not that | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
sometimes people need short-term loans? I am working with the teas | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
credit union to try to create capacity there so they can enter | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
this market, but we need to be able to have the capacity to do it, and | :51:10. | :51:18. | |
it takes a long time. Government is starting to deal with this, and we | :51:18. | :51:23. |