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In the North East and Cumbria, a total of 10 school buildings | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
contain asbestos. An MP says teachers are dying and children are | :01:34. | :01:44. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2004 seconds | :01:44. | :35:09. | |
Coming up, these are some of the men and women who want to run the | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
North's five police forces. As more candidates are unveiled this week, | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
we ask what qualifications they need to do the job. Talking about | :35:18. | :35:27. | |
that are Carlisle MP John Stevenson and Grahame Morris. | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
Around 8 out of 10 schools in our region contain asbestos. That is | :35:32. | :35:38. | |
according to a Sunday Politics survey of -- across the area. Do we | :35:38. | :35:46. | |
need to do anything about it? More than 140 schools staff have died | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
from exposure to asbestos across the UK and the last decade. A North | :35:51. | :35:57. | |
East MP says the risk is so great it is time to act. | :35:57. | :36:03. | |
A typical chorister in a typical school. Like so many, this one | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
dates from a time when asbestos was a basic building material -- | :36:07. | :36:17. | |
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corridor. In the school, we have asbestos in the heating ducts. We | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
know it is there, we know where it is. We have good records. We do | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
periodic inspections to make sure that it is as it should be. And | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
that nobody has been up there or there is no sign of deterioration. | :36:32. | :36:41. | |
According to figures, nearly 1,700 schools in the area, more than | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
1,300 contain asbestos. Like all new school, this has been built | :36:45. | :36:51. | |
without asbestos. North East MP showed me round. He told me about | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
his parliamentary campaign to have the material removed from all | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
schools. He is worried by the growing number of teachers are | :36:59. | :37:06. | |
dying from asbestos related cancer. One of the big problems is that it | :37:06. | :37:11. | |
affects thousands of children. We must look at a phased removal. It | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
must be removed from every school in the UK and I understand that | :37:15. | :37:21. | |
will be very difficult. It will be a difficult task, but we must do it | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
in the best interest of the school and in particular, these children. | :37:26. | :37:33. | |
Teacher Patricia Cameron was exposed to asbestos in the 1970s. | :37:33. | :37:41. | |
She died in 2004. As her daughter explains. In came as such a shock. | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
I had never heard of their cancer. It was something I did not | :37:46. | :37:52. | |
associate with teachers or teaching. Obviously after this is -- after | :37:52. | :38:01. | |
the receipt -- the research I did, I know all about it now. A few | :38:01. | :38:07. | |
months ago, builders working at the school unexpectedly does that -- | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
discovered some old asbestos and a wall. There was no exposure of | :38:12. | :38:19. | |
school that -- staff. That would have had an impact on a lot of | :38:19. | :38:26. | |
parents. Of course, three days of the children's education was lost. | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
Why not take asbestos out of all schools? There is a massive cost | :38:31. | :38:41. | |
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implications. Authorities face huge cuts at the moment. The teaching | :38:41. | :38:49. | |
unions say the price of Izmit -- removing asbestos is worth paying. | :38:49. | :38:56. | |
We did a national survey last year. We found very few members of staff | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
actually knew whether their schools had asbestos and them and knew what | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
to do if they came across up damaged asbestos. The official | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
advice is that as long as it is in good condition and done disturbed, | :39:09. | :39:19. | |
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it poses no threat. -- understaffed. Tipped to protect the next | :39:19. | :39:26. | |
generation, there are growing calls -- to protect. We know the North | :39:26. | :39:33. | |
East has had a lot of problems with asbestos. How serious do you think | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
the threat is? I think it is a threat. I would like to pay tribute | :39:38. | :39:44. | |
to the work that my colleague has done and raising the issue. We know | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
140 teachers have died in the last 10 years. We do not know how many | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
other cleaners, caretakers, maintenance workers have been | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
involved because no records have been in -- no records have been | :39:56. | :40:02. | |
kept. I think the idea that we should have a phased programme is a | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
sensible approach. You must remember that one of the problems | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
we face with the cancellation of the Building Schools For The Future | :40:12. | :40:18. | |
programme and the dramatic cutbacks in the repairs budget, there is an | :40:18. | :40:23. | |
issue of how quickly those schools built after 1975 are going to be | :40:23. | :40:33. | |
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replaced. Do you agree it is safer to have removed their asbestos? | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
have sympathy with local authorities because there is a risk | :40:36. | :40:44. | |
here. They must manage that. -- I have. In my constituency, I am | :40:44. | :40:54. | |
quite and -- quite fortunate. There is no issue. Not inured you going | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
in before refurbishment and removing this and a phased way? | :40:58. | :41:05. | |
must balance the risk. They must assess what they can do to remove | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
asbestos where they can. When the opportunity arises, you should take | :41:09. | :41:15. | |
that opportunity. Over time, schools are refurbished, as they | :41:15. | :41:21. | |
are replaced, that is a real opportunity to deal with it. | :41:21. | :41:27. | |
experts' advice is that this is safe as long as it is not disturbed. | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
The truth of the matter is that we do not know the scale of the | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
problem because there are such a queue each time lapse between | :41:35. | :41:45. | |
exposure to asbestos and the illness. Every day activities, it | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
does not have to be a refurbishment. Slamming a classroom door five | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
times can put 600 times more asbestos fibre into the atmosphere | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
than the normal background evidence. When resources are tight, it is not | :42:00. | :42:08. | |
a priority, is it? What price do you put on an individual, a child | :42:08. | :42:13. | |
or a teacher or a caretaker, what price do you put on their health | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
and safety and -- and their well- being? A you must be professional | :42:16. | :42:24. | |
about this. I think that is what local authorities must do. You must | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
make sure that schools are inspected on a regular basis. That | :42:28. | :42:37. | |
is what I think... They is a gamble here. 30, 40 year period. We are is | :42:37. | :42:43. | |
another side to it. Apart from the Managed Risk, there is the issue of | :42:43. | :42:50. | |
publicising it to make sure every school where they are being gripe - | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
- quite proactive, lots of schools are not aware of the dangers. | :42:54. | :43:00. | |
Parents are not aware of the changes. It must be clear. It is | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
important that local authorities make sure that schools are aware of | :43:03. | :43:09. | |
the issue if there is asbestos and a school. As you see schools been | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
refurbished, and... Our the Government risking more of this | :43:14. | :43:20. | |
danger by not dealing with schools as fast as the previous government? | :43:20. | :43:26. | |
I think we must accept budgetary constraints. We must be careful of | :43:26. | :43:29. | |
the risk that there is. That is what schools must do and local | :43:30. | :43:37. | |
authorities. Night a group of men and women who | :43:37. | :43:44. | |
will be trying to get to vote. Elections take place in November | :43:44. | :43:48. | |
but what sort of person has the qualifications? Should they be | :43:48. | :43:58. | |
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police officers are politicians? On the streets of fighting crime, | :43:59. | :44:07. | |
something is changing and the police. It stands for police and | :44:07. | :44:17. | |
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Crown Commissioners. PCC. We're just starting to find out who wants | :44:20. | :44:28. | |
the job. Some are familiar faces. Now she has been selected as | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
Labour's candidate for the Police Commission. She has never been a | :44:32. | :44:39. | |
police officer. The job is the reverse. It is to represent the | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
community to be the voice of the people of Northumberland. What you | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
say to people who say this is just another way to get back into | :44:47. | :44:55. | |
politics? I am here to serve the public of Northumberland who were | :44:55. | :45:01. | |
suffering extremely badly from Tory cuts. Most of the candidates have | :45:01. | :45:07. | |
not been police officers. This man is standing for Labour as | :45:07. | :45:17. | |
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commissioner. Labour's candidate in Durham has been a policeman. He's a | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
former police constable. The Lib Dems have not put any candidates up. | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
The Conservatives will suggest their candidates for the end of | :45:29. | :45:38. | |
July. This man has thrown his hat into the ring. A lot of the public | :45:38. | :45:40. | |
will see it as common sense that someone with direct policing | :45:40. | :45:46. | |
experience will be a good person for the job. I feel strongly that | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
this role should not be politicised. It should not been given to a | :45:51. | :45:57. | |
career politician who might bring in party politics. For local | :45:57. | :46:02. | |
councillors, ex-MPs and a few ex- police officers. They all want to | :46:02. | :46:11. | |
play a part. John Stevenson, we heard them | :46:11. | :46:20. | |
talking about the advantages of police work. Would it be better | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
with politicians who have experience of representing people? | :46:24. | :46:30. | |
I am delighted they're going ahead with this. I do not think there is | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
a problem he gets elected. I think what matters is the calibre Alok -- | :46:35. | :46:41. | |
Caliber of that person. They have got to hold a police to account and | :46:41. | :46:48. | |
the electorate can help -- can hold them to account. I think it is | :46:48. | :46:54. | |
about confidence and quality. ludicrous these jobs should not be | :46:54. | :47:04. | |
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politicised? To a certain extent, yes, they are. What we want to see | :47:06. | :47:16. | |
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his quality politicians. Graham Morris, Labour have selected | :47:17. | :47:22. | |
retread politicians. Should there have been more referred to find new | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
faces? Labour resisted police commissioners on the ground of | :47:26. | :47:34. | |
costs. The cost, not of the salary, but of the election every four | :47:34. | :47:37. | |
years. It is the equivalent of 3,000 police Constable's. Let us | :47:37. | :47:43. | |
talk about the names. John Prescott is quite formidable. We have a good | :47:43. | :47:49. | |
mix in the North East. We have someone who is a former police | :47:49. | :47:58. | |
officer. We have someone who was a solicitor general. She has an | :47:58. | :48:07. | |
excellent record as a human rights lawyer. We have a man who was a | :48:07. | :48:14. | |
local councillor. He has years of experience. Some people will see | :48:14. | :48:20. | |
this as people who just want a salary. The Labour Party did not | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
support the concept of police commissioners. Now that the | :48:24. | :48:28. | |
Government have forced through there will, it is up to us to | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
select the best candidates that we can. We have a good next, some are | :48:32. | :48:42. | |
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poor former police officers. -- some are former police officers. At | :48:44. | :48:49. | |
the end of -- cut the end of the date is up to the voters. It is | :48:49. | :48:59. | |
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straight forward for non-party political dependence. It is down to | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
people like yourself to help out there. I am not going to go in one | :49:11. | :49:18. | |
�5,000. You can demonstrate there are independence -- independent | :49:18. | :49:28. | |
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standing in an area. In depends on the media coverage. If people like | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
you cells, local radio, local newspapers take an interest in | :49:36. | :49:42. | |
these people, there is no reason there cannot be a robust debate. | :49:42. | :49:50. | |
For you believe a lot of independents will emerge? -- do you | :49:50. | :49:57. | |
believe. I think it will be principally main parties. I think | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
Labour has a very good record in terms of crime and tackling anti- | :50:03. | :50:10. | |
social behaviour. If you do get independent candidates, or is the | :50:10. | :50:20. | |
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issue single-issue? Ron Hawke is bringing his experience to bear and | :50:22. | :50:30. | |
specialist experience. Elections in November, hardly anyone will turn | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
out? We will have to wait and see. I think people might be surprised | :50:35. | :50:41. | |
at how many people turn out. It is novel. Thank you. | :50:41. | :50:50. | |
England's game against Italy is hours away. Mark put aside thoughts | :50:50. | :51:00. | |
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of formation fit all. -- football. Unemployment is up again in the | :51:05. | :51:12. | |
North East. It rose by 8,000. It fell in Cumbria. | :51:12. | :51:17. | |
Ian Wright told people the region was paying a high price for the | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
recession. Tyneside MP has called on a motion | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
called on missions -- ministers to abandon nuclear weapons. | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
Free schools and academies are not providing the same standard of | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
healthy food as local authority run schools. Ministers say there is no | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
evidence. Her many more calls for a U-turn does the Government need to | :51:43. | :51:48. | |
hear before it does the right thing and put evidence ahead of dogma and | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
make sure more children get the benefit of help the school meals? | :51:51. | :51:56. | |
Fresh research will be carried out on air passenger duty and the | :51:56. | :52:06. | |
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impact. Some people believe that damages the North East economy. | :52:07. | :52:13. | |
Why do you think the figures for employment are falling income we | :52:13. | :52:19. | |
are will be a rising elsewhere? Partly, the reason the North East | :52:19. | :52:24. | |
is bucking the trend is that we are losing more jobs and the public | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
sector and job creation in the private sector. There is a robust | :52:27. | :52:37. | |
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public it -- economy. Local businesses are holding up. You must | :52:40. | :52:46. | |
have some good examples were the private City it -- private sector | :52:46. | :52:51. | |
is being successful. We had a debate in Parliament this week that | :52:51. | :52:59. | |
in the private sector, it is haemorrhaging jobs. There is | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
145,000 people at work in a region now. There is a list of companies | :53:03. | :53:13. | |
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in Nigeria -- in Nigeria. In my constituency -- in my constituency. | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
We have a real problem. It is not to say there are some bright spots. | :53:24. | :53:29. | |
I welcome the 200 jobs that Nissan is creating. There will be benefits | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
in the supply chain. There is no guarantee those contracts will be | :53:32. | :53:42. | |
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placed in Durham. There is a potential there. In the North East, | :53:43. | :53:50. | |
it is about the private sector. It's only government is not helping. | :53:50. | :53:56. | |
-- saw the Government is not helping. It is doing its best to | :53:56. | :54:02. | |
help the private sector. We must accept we have a difficult economic | :54:02. | :54:07. | |
backdrop. Nevertheless, throughout the country, if you look at the | :54:07. | :54:10. | |
national figures, you're seeing improvement in employment figures. | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
There are jobs being created. What he must do is encourage the private | :54:14. | :54:21. | |
sector to grow and create these jobs. Her we must stimulate demand. | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
Lack of business confidence, factory production his own. We must | :54:26. | :54:36. | |
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