16/06/2013 Sunday Politics North East and Cumbria


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Millions of pounds in debt, short of staff and other investigations

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for poor standards of care. What can be done to turn around the

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2332 seconds

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- is a warm welcome to your local part of the show. We're talking

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about the state of the NHS this week and the serious problems and

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our hospitals. The political party that seems to have no problems

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finding members. I have been to meet UK's newest recruits. The

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Government has admitted their problems in the North East economy

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as unemployment went up again. The government seems to think there are

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particular problems, is that affair commit? Unemployment is higher now

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than at the last election but the biggest worry is the young people

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who have been out of employment for a long time. Is there a particular

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problem in the North East? Since 2012, it is down year-on-year but

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is there a particular problem in the North East? We have the highest

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rates in the hall of the country so that has to be of concern. And we

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are not making progress and until we get growth back into the economy

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we will not see jobs created. there a danger here? There is talk

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of recovery but is there a danger the North's could be left behind?

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Your correspondent, when these results came out on Wednesday,

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there was the news that youth unemployment had fallen,

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particularly given by the growth of apprenticeship schemes. Over all,

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the figures are relatively flat and perhaps the most interesting

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feature of this difficult economic time has been that we have not seen

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it enormous increases in unemployment and over all across

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the country, we saw the highest level of employee that we have ever

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seen. People unemployed for a long time it is doing a lot of damage.

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The longer people unemployed, before the recovery and the harder

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to find work. That has always been true. We have particular problems

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in the North East because if we have an economy that is more

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dependent on the public sector and has a smaller private sector than

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any other part of the country. issue has to be addressed. Good

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jobs are being created and they are coming through Nissan and a catchy.

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-- Hitachi. Our top story this week is the NHS and queuing and concerns

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about the out-of-hours service. All the signs of a health service under

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pressure but it is in Cumbria that problems appear to be most acute.

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He an inquiry into high death rates at hospitals in Carlisle is

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expected to report soon., and I was utterly shocked. Not being fed, no

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water, using the wrong plasters on her and ripping her skin. After the

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week of this, she died pretty quickly. She was 94 when she went

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into the Cumberland Infirmary for a routine procedure. The coroner

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questioned some of the treatment she received. This is the NHS,

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something we believe will look after us. She would have been

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better off not in hospital. She is not alone in her concerns about

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level of care. Inspectors visited the hospital in March and herb

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similar worries from other patients with hospital staff raising their

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own issues. Patients were in wet One simple way to improve care

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would be to fill those vacancies but there is a man going problem

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with recruitment. 102 new nurses have been employed since September

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but there are still 55 vacancies at the trust. Looking at some of the

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text in the staff survey looking at the more numbers and who would

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recommend it as a place to work or receive care, it is an indication

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of how low the morale is. If I was coming from the outside looking to

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apply for a job there, that would have a serious impact on me.

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Trust says it is focusing on recruitment but not solely on

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nursing staff. I am very concerned about morale and we are already

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working on this and it is not just about nursing numbers but how we

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are supported on the wards. Some of the problems here are experienced

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elsewhere like long waits at A and D and Hospital for bugs. The trust

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you also has money worries. The trust this year and needs to save

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�16.8 million and on top of that, it has �7.7 million of debt and has

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been recognised as a crust put at risk because of its PFI agreements.

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The Cumberland Infirmary was the first PFI hospital and the country

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and it's estimated running costs are now 10 times the original sum.

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Let's not be deluded ourselves and blame the problems on the PFI

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scheme because that has Backley not true. Public funding will pay for a

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�90 million redevelopment at the West Cumbria Hospital. Both

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measures should go some way to improving care but in isolation, it

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will not let pressure on the and the staff. It is estimated that by

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2033, 38% of the population here will be over 60 so demand is only

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going to grow. We need to provide care closer to home. That is why

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funding is so essential. In the future, Alex is hoping people like

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her mum can have more confidence in Cumbria's hospitals close up they

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Carlile MP met the Minister this week.

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The important thing was to get across the fact that I want to see

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the targets are met and they want to make sure the date is next full

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sup why has there been no involvement from the Department of

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Health before? There is ongoing involvement and the reason I got

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involved with in the light of the recent reports which makes for

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uncomfortable reading. I want to reassure the Minister that I think

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the right thing for Cumbria as for Northumbria to take over. Part of

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the problem as financial and they have to make a lot of savings.

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there not more the government could do? That is something we will have

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to discuss. What efficiency savings can be made and what resources are

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available. You talk about efficiency savings but the staff

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here will say they cannot make any more efficiencies, they are already

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stretched. You s, but if you only have one management, there will

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undoubtedly be some savings there. There are also systems and

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processes that can be Brotton to improve care and make savings.

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Northumbria will have to discuss what the Department of Health what

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sort of funding they will need. NHS is under pressure all over the

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region not least at accident and emergency departments. Thousands

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waiting for ambulances and the fiasco of the 101 number. What we

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are not doing is arguing over the overall level of expenditure

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because that is the one the are apart from overseas development

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that has been completely protected. The question is how we run and that

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minister the National Health Service. 15 years ago, when my

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daughter was taken ill I phone the GP. We did not cornea accident and

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emergency, but these days, that would not happen. The out-of-hours

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services from GPs are not the same as what they wear. The last

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government managed to produce a situation where we had an

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undermining of the out-of-hours services as well as adding to costs.

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If lead put that specific example to Bridget Phillips. To blame

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something that happened in 2004 is nonsense. We have seen an increase

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in older patients who are not getting the care they need because

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of massive cuts to social care. There is not the right support

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we're to get them home. David Cameron said there would be no more

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top-down the organisation is and what has resulted is chaos and

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confusion and the biggest reorganisation in its history. He

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also said that waiting times would not increase but may have more than

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double it's the number of patients waiting more than 24 hours in the

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last year. What is Labour's solution? Roll back to 2010?

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Treasury were seeking to massage the figures. We what money put into

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social care to make sure that people were getting the right help

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they need. Older patients are often having to wait a great deal of time

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and it is dead distressing. I have seen many troubling cases like this.

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There simply is not enough money going in to the NHS and to social

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care and that is what is putting the pressure on? There would be

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more credibility at the Shadow Chancellor gave in the indication

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he would supply more money, which he has not. It comes back to a

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number of individual issues. We saw how it could be to do with

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management of the hospitals and historic issues like paying for PFI

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contracts. This was not a great time to start to shake things up.

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You through it all the pieces into the year. The additional problem to

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deal West is the ageing population and the demands on the NHS are

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constantly growing. It is not enough for things to stay the same.

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We have to find improvements and efficiencies. We have to be careful.

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The 101 service was a pioneer in the North East that works very well

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there. There may be problems elsewhere but we should not

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undermine the service which will make people feel less confident.

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The other aspect is BPs I and other hospitals affected by this. It is

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like paying for the hospital on a credit cards. The biggest concerns

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at accident and emergency waiting times... What PFI and estate?

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at know enough. As was said in the peace, there are lessons to be

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learned but at the moment, the most pressing issue is the Andy waiting

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times. Government Ministers have been looking for scapegoats. First

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the GPs and their immigrants and now the patients. We wore have to

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wrap that up. We haven't got time! And other big story this week, an

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announcement by Jeremy Hunt about children's hearts or jury. Once

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again, the future of heart surgery units in the North East.

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Tyneside Labour MPs have criticised the decision to suspend a review

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into children's heart surgery which has so caller cost �6 million. Nick

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Brown says young patients were not being per it first.

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I really do feel rather than clinical judgment. Flat defences in

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Morpeth have been at inspected. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg

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was in the region on Friday. It planned to get passenger trains

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running once again has moved a step closer after a tumble on council

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met with Network Rail to discuss options. Passenger trains here were

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axed in the 1960s. Their opinion poll rating may have

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dipped since the local elections but there is no doubt UKIP are on a

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that of our role. They became the official opposition in South

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Tyneside after three independent councillors joined the party. Their

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most notable achievement is recruiting new members, some of

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whom have never joined a political party before.

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Tradition means a lot in North the Archer. Richmond and surrounding

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villages have have Conservative MPs for 100 years. Not everyone is

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convinced you should stick with what you know. There is a growing

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force here that wants to shake things up. It wants to change its

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politics. Here are three of the revolutionaries. Until April, one

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was a Conservative councillor, one that once represented Labour, and

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UKIP is the first party this woman has joined. Why sign up? It is down

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to the fact the what to give us our referendum and the chance to speak

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on the EU. It would not just the reaction to the established parties

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but because I thought I may have something to say. Working with the

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public, I saw that UKIP fitted with the people of this country

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particularly where ILF. They just understand. It is common sense.

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While many of the views sound conservative, they have no

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enthusiasm for David Cameron. are Orcadia politicians with no

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real experience of life. How on earth can the understand the

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problems. You have to relate to people to understand what is going

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on with their lives and then improve things. A enough of tea and

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sympathy, time for tough love. If you thought UKIP, you will get the

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opposite of what you want. Labour will get into power as you will not

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getting referendum. If they all thought UKIP, that will be great.

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UK it is not a protest vote any more and that is just a get-out for

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the Conservatives and Labour and the Liberals to say it is a wasted

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vote. Five years ago, maybe, but not now. A is irrelevant whether we

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will get a Prime Minister or a government. We believe it is right

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and that is as far as we need to just that by it. Where we have at

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the moment, I'll be with them for a long time. I have put too much time

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and effort into wanting to make this work. I was married to the

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wrong man in the Conservative Party and I have met the right party for

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me. David Cameron once dismissed UKIP as a bunch of fruitcakes but

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these three are convinced something is stirring.

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These people should be looking to the Conservatives? Athalia on your

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party's part? UKIP is pooling from all parties and he will find as

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many people who used to vote Labour. It is not surprising that in the

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map turn you get people that are worried and look to other parties.

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It has happened before or and happened in the 1980s. These things

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happen. Their perception, the Mrs Sally disagree with policies but it

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is that their party is dominated by people from Eton. They are have not

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met Eric Pickles's! There is a mixture. David Cameron surrounds

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himself with public school boys. That is a perception you have to

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address. People will ask themselves, who do they what to run the

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country? Do we what the Labour Party or the Conservatives who are

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getting us out of this mess. Ed Miliband or her David Cameron. The

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vast majority of people looking at UKIP will make a different decision.

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This is a rejection of mainstream politics and that this solution.

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They are looking for a mother home. They are of particular concern to

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the Conservatives but we take nothing for granted. It is a

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challenge for politicians and all mainstream parties to listen to

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people's legitimate concerns. It is the Tories who are facing the

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biggest challenge. I knew getting this level of membership inquiries?

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We have seen a big increase in membership since 2010. What is

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important is that the what to be treated as a serious party, their

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policies deserve scrutiny. The what to cut maternity leave and scrap

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paternity leave altogether. Decriminalisation of prostitution.

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If the lot to be as serious party, they deserve the same scrutiny as

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any other party but come the general election, it will be asked

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great fight between Labour and the Tory East. This may not cause

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billion hate any sleepless nights but in the marginals, this could

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crucify you? UKIP are most well known for wanting the referendum on

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the European Union and the only way they will get that is if David

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Cameron becomes the next Prime Minister. Voting for or any others,

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you will not get that. To you short-circuit this and offer a

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referendum? David Cameron is offering four years of uncertainty.

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We don't think this is the right time to have a debate about Europe.

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