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cleaner and some lost documents Yesterday

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cleaner and some lost documents him go, he was

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cleaner and some lost documents he would not have done anything

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wrong, but he set himself a very high standard

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wrong, but he set himself a very is the document he was presented

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putting through a bill that will demand tougher checks on

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putting through a bill that will he himself did not do enough checks

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to he himself did not do enough checks

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is an odd bit where he he himself did not do enough checks

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school educated lad. He is the he himself did not do enough checks

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supply of. He is he himself did not do enough checks

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is customary that he himself did not do enough checks

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a great chap he will be back next week.

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a great chap he will be back next has got a grip on the situation at

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last. For

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last. tractor. He waded into

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last. Next it was the chair of the

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Environment Agency, Lord Smith, Next it was the chair of the

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faced angry residents. Sought Next it was the chair of the

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river is out. That is precisely what we are going to do. Where he

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river is out. That is precisely what rivers and stitches can

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river is out. That is precisely what Secretary Owen Paterson has not been

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river is out. That is precisely what higher. Some residents were told to

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evacuate. higher. Some residents were told to

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big gap in the network. Look at the higher. Some residents were told to

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in. What is the long-term solution for flood prone areas of the

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country? I am joined from Oxford by want the Government to do?

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country? I am joined from Oxford by to make sure it

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farmer and landowner around here knows should

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farmer and landowner around here years. First, to solve the

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farmer and landowner around here there is money

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to do the dredging? When the waters start to subside

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to do the dredging? When the waters become a key part of this?

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a river and you see trees growing and

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a river and you see trees growing only because there is silt,

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a river and you see trees growing to have

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a river and you see trees growing stop the dredging? If

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a river and you see trees growing least some dredging on these

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a river and you see trees growing They are carrying water that comes

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a river and you see trees growing level of the flood plain on

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a river and you see trees growing infiltration upstream and you also

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a river and you see trees growing the levels and upstream so as to

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have active flood plain that can store water. This idea it

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have active flood plain that can about dredging is

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have active flood plain that can locally, the

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have active flood plain that can taken away and there is a very good

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have active flood plain that can perfectly well. In

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have active flood plain that can dredging has not taken place. There

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are dredging has not taken place. There

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when they do do some of dredging, the Environment

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when they do do some of dredging, barmy. We need to take the

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when they do do some of dredging, of the rivers and build the banks up

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so we of the rivers and build the banks up

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future. We have to of the rivers and build the banks up

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need to make sure repairs are done more quickly. All right, let

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back to Oliver Tickell. Is it not the case a lot of people on your

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side the case a lot of people on your

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needs to turn into wilderness the case a lot of people on your

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me put that to Tessa the case a lot of people on your

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remember is a lot of the case a lot of people on your

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Drainage has been taking the case a lot of people on your

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year the flooding minister agreed the case a lot of people on your

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Is it not time to the case a lot of people on your

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people run their land rather than being told what to do by the

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Environment Agency, being told what to do by the

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considerable power being told what to do by the

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happen, but they have signed being told what to do by the

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wildlife. It is not much good if being told what to do by the

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your house is underwater. being told what to do by the

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vision? You give the money to the drainage

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vision? You give the money to the relationship with the

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vision? You give the money to the the electoral college system which

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vision? You give the money to the member, one vote system. A union

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member would have to become an affiliated

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member would have to become an year. But the unions would

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member would have to become an of the vote at the conference and

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member would have to become an trade union has

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member would have to become an saying it is music to his ears. The

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member would have to become an Chuka Umunna joins me now for

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secretaries determine this, whether secretaries determine this, whether

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the individual members want us to be in

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the individual members want us to be want to make sure the

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trade union members, people who teach our

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trade union members, people who and we are also

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trade union members, people who this day and age

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trade union members, people who Labour conferences, there will be

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the single most Labour conferences, there will be

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the group of people who will Labour conferences, there will be

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contest, we are seeking Labour conferences, there will be

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towards more of vote process. At the moment we have

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They still have a lot vote process. At the moment we have

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a member of the GMB union and the Unite union,

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a member of the GMB union and the and that is an important

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a member of the GMB union and the would be casting their votes.

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a member of the GMB union and the envelopes for people to return

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a member of the GMB union and the have to hand over

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a member of the GMB union and the them a lot of

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a member of the GMB union and the as you put it! The idea that

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individual trade as you put it! The idea that

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They will not have their leadership decide

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that for them. Let money. The Labour Party manifesto

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will be reflecting the interests of people can say we are not going to

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give people can say we are not going to

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seats than anybody else in people can say we are not going to

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determining factor. They won't be. people can say we are not going to

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an important business person in people can say we are not going to

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executive of the ITV, people can say we are not going to

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chairman of the chief executive With the

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chairman of the chief executive businesses, not all FTSE

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chairman of the chief executive million companies. The largest ones,

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chairman of the chief executive sector jobs in this country come

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from sector jobs in this country come

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important part sector jobs in this country come

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supply chains. So you cannot name a single chairman

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supply chains. So you cannot name a correct? I

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supply chains. So you cannot name a "if it creates wealth, let's

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supply chains. So you cannot name a it" . Another quote, that it borders

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on predatory taxation. it" . Another quote, that it borders

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you are anti-business. I it" . Another quote, that it borders

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with them. One of the interesting rate of tax is that he made some

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comments arguing against rate of tax is that he made some

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different now. Digby rate of tax is that he made some

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his own opinions, rate of tax is that he made some

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money? I think ultimately rate of tax is that he made some

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a level beyond which the tax rate of tax is that he made some

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increase its two rate of tax is that he made some

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office we didn't have one, the 50p will raise. In the three

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years of operation the 50p will raise. In the three

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was based on extrapolation the 50p will raise. In the three

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tax revenues. -- 75%. Is it not a the 50p will raise. In the three

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them, they will just the 50p will raise. In the three

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something else. Let's the 50p will raise. In the three

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they go because you the 50p will raise. In the three

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have lost a huge chunk of your tax base. They

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have lost a huge chunk of your tax are advocating here is not

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controversial. Those are advocating here is not

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other major economy that subscribes to this?

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other major economy that subscribes than us. Can you

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other major economy that subscribes fact that those with

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other major economy that subscribes Over the past week it seems

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other major economy that subscribes service Ofsted, Lib Dem sources have

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continued to needle service Ofsted, Lib Dem sources have

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Giles Dilnot. It's unlikely service Ofsted, Lib Dem sources have

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Clegg and his party colleague schools minister David Laws

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Clegg and his party colleague is said to have been furious with

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The is said to have been furious with

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decision to remove Sally is said to have been furious with

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him to not is said to have been furious with

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remarkable thing is said to have been furious with

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between Nick Clegg and is said to have been furious with

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attacks can help them with is said to have been furious with

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post 2015. One spat does not a is said to have been furious with

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people who are happier to publically express

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people who are happier to publically his views on Coalition. It is

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difficult for his views on Coalition. It is

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shows the Lib Dems have a his views on Coalition. It is

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blue attacks are misplaced and irresponsible.

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blue attacks are misplaced and will see more of this?

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blue attacks are misplaced and politicians right now, and wants

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blue attacks are misplaced and now picking fights with the Tories

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on a range of issues, some of them trivial. Is this a Pirelli used to

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on a range of issues, some of them privy to Nick

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of the banks. That is now being sorted out. But

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is we have seen a string of attacks, almost an enemy within

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is we have seen a string of attacks, and this morning Nick Clegg has had

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is we have seen a string of attacks, Lib Dems do that we

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is we have seen a string of attacks, year before the election so

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is we have seen a string of attacks, strategy of trying

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is we have seen a string of attacks, the Lib Dems?

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is we have seen a string of attacks, together and far more

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Why does he need them? I do not think he does. You would be happy to

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see the Lib Dems go? I would always be

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see the Lib Dems go? I would always have had single

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see the Lib Dems go? I would always that have collective

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see the Lib Dems go? I would always stops, there is paralysis as the row

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see the Lib Dems go? I would always Business is worried about this

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anti-European rhetoric and that Business is worried about this

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Tory party. That Business is worried about this

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make our own constant Lib Dem attacks on you?

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What makes constant Lib Dem attacks on you?

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House of Commons, it was the Liberal constant Lib Dem attacks on you?

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referendum bill. And the European road today. It strikes

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me that given the European road today. It strikes

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the Lib the European road today. It strikes

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vote at the last election and at the moment there is no sign in the

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welcome it if Nick Clegg is starting to

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welcome it if Nick Clegg is starting last election are radical,

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progressive people who want to see a much

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there. We know what both of you want, but what

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there. We know what both of you election or will it break

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there. We know what both of you before the election. Do you think it

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will survive or before the election. Do you think it

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has delivered a great deal in many ways, but

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has delivered a great deal in many have done in the last three, there

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Hello, I'm Lucie Fisher, coming up on the

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defying the Government's new term`time holiday fines.

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girls will see their grandfather in South Africa. It's

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joined by two Devon MPs, the Conservative Gary Streeter and

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Labour's Ben Bradshaw. Welcome both. Relations between Westminster and

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the weather`beaten South West got the head of the Environment Agency

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saying Britain must decide whether floods. But the Government said it

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could afford to do both and visit to the Levels since the

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flooding started. Have you said

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us what's happened over the recent years and what we

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because of the money the government has put on the table. The Prime

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Minister made an announcement just specifically for Somerset and that

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means that we will be able to do a full dredge of eight kilometres over

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the next few Meanwhile, as the region's main

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railway line Secretary was in Dawlish to inspect

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the damage. to your question at Prime Minister

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's Question Time. I think there has been a greater

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sense of urgency but McLoughlin and the Prime Minister

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himself came down. floods for greater real resilience

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in general after we lost the line for nearly a month last year.

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is still to be delivered. Can we trust the

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deliver these policies? I have had two meetings with the

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Transport Secretary over the last five

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clear that the hole in the wall will be fixed whatever the cost.

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business. It does

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track at Dawlish shocked everyone. The line has often seen shutdowns in

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the past As we've heard, the Transport

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Secretary remains committed to the route, confirming that it could be

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re`open in six weeks, but he's also now

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was passionate in her defence of the route.

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It is vital for our tourism industry, it is vital for our

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economies and it is doable this line up and running and it is

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much more affordable to do that now and we need a

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million breakwater to protect the track but a growing number of

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which is, of course, far from new. King Canute got washed away when the

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sea came in. He said hold back the exact with the same with Network

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Rail. This year they will fill out the holes in the wall and keep the

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sea at sea at bay. You won't, the sea is

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stronger. The other idea new bird population may have delayed

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works to protect the line. respect of the Dawlish Warren which

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we all know it's going to be closed for six

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Agency is looking at the impact any work could have on local birds. But

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the Transport Secretary dismissed Labour's allegation that the

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Government was putting birds before people.

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All this just got washed away? Some will see those visits to

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damage here has even surprised rail experts and it is not the

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this train near Taunton. We have simply got to play the

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game that the Scots play and get all our MPs together. There

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length of the line. Let's have those 50 ramming home

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mainline from Paddington to Penzance is an important regional artery.

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As ever, it all comes down to cost. But be it the estimated 100 million

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for a diversion or even the 400 million for a second sea wall, many

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are pointing out these figures project to be spent on the

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south`west, is that right? High Speed 2 as a vanity project.

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People in the South West are asking how these MPs who have been

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representing this part of the world for years

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times as much money spent on transport in the

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railways were not improved, was inevitable. It is no good asking for

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money now, will happen.

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We have seen waves smashing into the sights of trains with passengers on

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board. It is not come `` it has not come as a surprise to passengers in

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There should be investment right the way down the line rather than

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billion going up north. The government

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for a real link in the south`west? I think we should use the High Speed

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used for High Speed 2 would fix the problem at a Dawlish.

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Then says it doesn't need to unpredictability and more crises and

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how can we think think climate change is happening

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You can't have a climate change sceptic at the head

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changing and we have to adapt to that. We

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investment to our railway line and we can use this as leverage, saying

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that we won support High Speed 2 existing line open. In the long run,

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we need a lane which is less vulnerable to the

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anger in the south`west. They need to get

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centres. Do you

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put before humans? The details don't seem to be quite

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conservation of wildlife. Of course we have to get our priorities right.

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It is difficult for the Green party, isn't it,

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We have to learn to undertake that balance at. Lots of the emphasis is

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on getting things open for business but much of the business is tourism

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and when we look at these lines we need to think about the quality of

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the lives of people who live in the south`west and also tourism and the

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beautiful part that bit of railway as many people

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doubling of flights down here. should

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But only because they had put them up, which was shocking.

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They are keeping us all informed and doing all they can to get this

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the longer term solutions to ensure that we are connected to the

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more? You had 14 years and we just kept patching up the railways.

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No, we to both the investments and

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recognises climate change as believe the promises they are making

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because those made in the past weren't delivered.

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party? I think some

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cost`effective. If

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Trident then we could improve quality of life.

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of the Green party's suggestions and I agree it is untenable to

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proposing will not just save money but meet the needs of older

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television, vegetating. By coming here it's stimulating my

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managing the staffing of the centres so, in effect, we're twice

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economic climate double funding. The council's meals on wheels

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service could also subsidised hot meal but the council

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says not enough people are using Instead it will help people to get

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their meals in Exeter.

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What we are seeing is things moving worried about these plans and have

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demanded more details. particularly older people's

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quality`of`life, throughout the services and now

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suddenly we have this big hard to pick apart properly in the

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interests of people who use these services.

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need to save ?110 million but insist people will not be left without the

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services they need. spending more than we are getting

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and so we have to reduce expenditure.

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But we have an ageing it will have impact the future.

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They are asking the community 's round

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We are freeing up choice for older people.

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It is not situation of government cuts.

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We always say this but what can we do it `` do about it if the money

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needs to be saved? We had no growth

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three years which is why the deficit is bigger than it should have been

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which is So the Labour Party would provide

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the money for meals on wheels? Now our regular round`up of the

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political week in 60 seconds. The saturation of Somerset

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continued. As the police helicopter asked the

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people of As the police helicopter asked the

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can stop flooding with these old`fashioned solutions. We

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number ten. We

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that the only way we're going to get out of this recession

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than 400 parents have been fined for taking their children on holiday

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during girls will see their grandfather in

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South Africa. It's ?70 or whatever it is. And I'll

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continue doing it. I know we have talked lots about

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flooding but given flooding but given the extreme

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weather conditions should we be be living on flood plains.

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Bringing in a law against it? Just

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How'd you deliver the homes if you don't call on flood plains?

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We desperately need new homes but it has to be

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morning and the teachers were telling me more parents are getting

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exceptional circumstances that's children should be in school.

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Even if it is a family visit or... ? There are exceptional circumstances

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and the headteacher has discretion. Too much control away from parents?

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My solution is to holiday times and he day prices and

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that seems like a sensible unrealistic.

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It is doable. Londoners who otherwise may not have

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a voice. Both of you, Londoners who otherwise may not have

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David Cameron get a grip on the Londoners who otherwise may not have

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floods? Can UKIP push Londoners who otherwise may not have

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Thursday? Is the speaker Londoners who otherwise may not have

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what we thought we Londoners who otherwise may not have

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the best. The Environment Londoners who otherwise may not have

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being hung out to dry Londoners who otherwise may not have

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Levels. It is turning Londoners who otherwise may not have

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crisis by the Government and Londoners who otherwise may not have

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dealing with the flooding. There is no

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dealing with the flooding. There is an entire culture within the

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Environment Agency, European directives about dredging

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and all European directives about dredging

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put ahead of people if European directives about dredging

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difficult circumstances by European directives about dredging

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them to manage. Chris Smith would European directives about dredging

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acting under a law European directives about dredging

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spectacle, they European directives about dredging

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summer and they will find something European directives about dredging

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but it is a bigger picture than European directives about dredging

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whole skill solution that European directives about dredging

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in autumn and then the water European directives about dredging

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pictures of the flooding, it is all topsoil

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pictures of the flooding, it is all we carry out farming.

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pictures of the flooding, it is all Agency? I agree with Nick that Chris

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pictures of the flooding, it is all Smith has been setup in this

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situation. half an hour, in and out, with no

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angry people shouting at him. You to half an hour, in and out, with no

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a farm. It is agreed he half an hour, in and out, with no

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crisis. But half an hour, in and out, with no

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London media class who does imagine David Cameron in a pair of

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wellies. If imagine David Cameron in a pair of

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Guildford, it would not have dragged imagine David Cameron in a pair of

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interesting how they are imagine David Cameron in a pair of

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front of everything else. The farmers for the farmland they were

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not going farmers for the farmland they were

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a flood defence system further farmers for the farmland they were

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sanctuary, it was to save farmers for the farmland they were

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Environment Agency was talking about farmers for the farmland they were

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dynamiting every pumping agency farmers for the farmland they were

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the part of that agency. If farmers for the farmland they were

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any threat up farmers for the farmland they were

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UKIP will do better. And they farmers for the farmland they were

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come second? It looks like farmers for the farmland they were

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poll this week showed farmers for the farmland they were

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for UKIP. If they do well in the European elections, they should

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for UKIP. If they do well in the come a good second? I think they

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for UKIP. If they do well in the will and if they do not,

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for UKIP. If they do well in the a lot on UKIP

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for UKIP. If they do well in the You really... Order.

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for UKIP. If they do well in the over excitable individual. You

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for UKIP. If they do well in the to write out 1000 times,

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for UKIP. If they do well in the questions. He was talking

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for UKIP. If they do well in the 1000 lines,

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for UKIP. If they do well in the There was

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for UKIP. If they do well in the but he never had that in the first

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place. But he is an incredibly reforming speaker.

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place. But he is an incredibly will never catch on. It means very

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frequently there are will never catch on. It means very

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questions. The deportation of foreign criminals. He

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could have found a deportation of foreign criminals. He

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that. He is a real reformer and deportation of foreign criminals. He

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executive do not like that. That is deportation of foreign criminals. He

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Government when Parliament has more deportation of foreign criminals. He

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overcome these increasingly mannered and some of

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overcome these increasingly mannered think it is a real shame.

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overcome these increasingly mannered and he is

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overcome these increasingly mannered we see them every week and they

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overcome these increasingly mannered getting a bit

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overcome these increasingly mannered was having to keep that under

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control, I would be driven slowly mad.

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control, I would be driven slowly at 11. If it is Sunday, it is the

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Sunday Politics.

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