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It is decision day for greases the country goes to the polls for the | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
second time this year. It could plunge Europe into economic chaos. | :00:58. | :01:05. | |
That is our top story. During the first Gulf war, Britain sent 53,000 | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
troops to the Middle-East along with hundreds of tanks. Could we | :01:09. | :01:19. | |
send anything like that kind of firepower again. | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
And we have had Prime Minister after Prime Minister after Deputy | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
Prime Minister giving evidence to the Leveson Inquiry this week. Is | :01:29. | :01:35. | |
this creating a chilling atmosphere towards freedom of speech? All that | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
and the best political panel and the business of looking forward to | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
the week ahead and tweeting throughout the programme. | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
Later in the programme, young people petition assembly members to | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
back what they call living wage but does the business community like | :01:51. | :02:01. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1557 seconds | :02:01. | :27:58. | |
You're defence spending, you assume it starts to rise again by about | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
one per cent in real terms after 2015, but the Chancellor has now | :28:02. | :28:11. | |
told us there has to be more public spending cuts in 2016 and 2017. | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
1% increase is only on the equipment programme. Our budget has | :28:15. | :28:25. | |
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been built on the assumption, which is agreed with the Treasury, that | :28:26. | :28:32. | |
there will be a 1% increase. That is the commitment that has been | :28:32. | :28:40. | |
made to us by the Treasury. It is approaching 12:30pm. Coming | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
up and 20 minutes, they look at the week ahead with a political panel. | :28:45. | :28:55. | |
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Until then, Sunday politics across the UK. | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
If on the Sunday politics Wells, app should Welsh employers pay what | :29:02. | :29:08. | |
has been described as a living wage? That is �7.20 an hour. Some | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
think not in the current economic climate. A changed policing. | :29:14. | :29:16. | |
Elected police commissioners are coming soon but do you know when or | :29:17. | :29:26. | |
more importantly what they will do? It is Mark's first time in the | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
Sunday politics you feel that I am sure he knows what he is doing. | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
Good afternoon. One story dominating the political agenda | :29:33. | :29:39. | |
today which are the elections in Greece. This debate by of austerity | :29:39. | :29:45. | |
verses the daylight - where you stand and where would you vote go? | :29:46. | :29:50. | |
I understand the situation in Greece's very serious and the | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
austerity budgets are not working. The result has been that time after | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
time whenever they go there, the results are worse than not better. | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
The general argument, whether Greece needs more austerity it or | :30:03. | :30:09. | |
more economic growth, I do not think there is any argument at all. | :30:09. | :30:14. | |
Across Europe, we will not get out of the predicament we are in by | :30:14. | :30:20. | |
slowly strangling our economies. Business leaders are warning the | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
Welsh government not to push for private sector pay rises because it | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
could stop them from taking on more staff on even result and lay-offs. | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
The warning comes as ministers investigate wage levels across | :30:33. | :30:43. | |
Wales. Proponents of a living wage for all | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
set at more than �1 above the minimum wage argue we could cut | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
poverty levels and leaves firms with a healthier and happier and | :30:51. | :30:58. | |
hard-working staff. It is something campaigners have patient -- | :30:59. | :31:04. | |
petitioned the Assembly for this week. I see people in my community | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
working for long hours and they are left with not enough money to pay | :31:07. | :31:14. | |
for the essentials. It is not fair they get to -- do not get a laugh | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
and healthy and happy life. I am doing my GCSEs and I want to make | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
sure that after doing all that effort, there is going to be a job | :31:24. | :31:28. | |
out there and I am going to be able to make enough money to make ends | :31:28. | :31:36. | |
meet. We have 200,000 children living in poverty in Wales today. | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
The shocking fact is that 60% of those families have at least one | :31:40. | :31:44. | |
parent who is in work. We know that if we started to pursue a living | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
wage policies across the public and private sector here, we would put | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
money into the pockets of the parents of children who are | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
struggling with the current economic situation. It is a direct | :31:56. | :32:05. | |
way to tackle child poverty. Welsh Labour's manifesto committed it to | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
pursuing a living wage for everyone in Wales, which includes the cost | :32:09. | :32:15. | |
of raising a family. Academics have estimated that the living wage is | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
no lower than �7.20 an hour. The current statutory minimum wage is | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
�6.80 an hour. Ministers are looking at where other devolved | :32:26. | :32:32. | |
public sector bodies stand on the issue and encourage them to become | :32:32. | :32:38. | |
a living wage employers. If we are the trailblazers, we hope the | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
private sector will not be so frightened of it and will see the | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
benefit of a workforce which when the a healthy and happy work harder | :32:46. | :32:51. | |
and stay for longer. Welsh NHS workers and Welsh government civil | :32:51. | :32:57. | |
servants already receive a living wage or more. A number of big | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
private sector employers including Barclays Bank are also signed up to | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
paying it. Business organisations are warning Welsh ministers not to | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
try to force them to raise wages. For example, by inserting a living | :33:11. | :33:18. | |
wage clauses and government contracts. What we're proposing is | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
that this new living wage becomes the minimum wage. Lots of companies | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
that I speak to that lot to be in a position to bring in more employees | :33:27. | :33:33. | |
but anything like this at this time, anything that would hinder them, | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
which they would like to do, is going to cause problems and I am | :33:37. | :33:43. | |
afraid it is not realistic. We have to look at it from the employer's | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
perspective. The ACE an increase would deter them from taking on | :33:48. | :33:54. | |
staff and that force would week to lay-offs. Supporters of the living | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
wage say they're important and practical questions here. Should | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
staff be paying -- employers be paying staff so little their | :34:03. | :34:09. | |
earnings have to be topped up through benefits? Employers have | :34:09. | :34:16. | |
warned anything that increases the costs could damage job-creation. | :34:16. | :34:22. | |
Are these calls for a living wage some kind of recognition that the | :34:22. | :34:27. | |
minimum wage was set up to low- level by the Labour government? | :34:27. | :34:35. | |
man on wage is what it is. It was a flower and it was a expected to | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
cover all consistencies. I am a strong supporter of a living wage | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
and what it does is to set a level where were people unable to meet | :34:41. | :34:49. | |
from their own wages and without the need for state subsidies, and | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
the basic costs of an ordinary living standard. What we heard of | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
there was a tension between increasing wages and also keeping | :34:57. | :35:03. | |
staffing levels. The indications in that piece where that if you | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
increased the salary levels of some workers and some companies, the | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
offshoot of that would be the have to get rid of staff to make up for | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
it. That was the argument put forward by opponents of the minimal | :35:15. | :35:21. | |
wage introduced back in 1987. The issue of a fair day's pay for a | :35:21. | :35:29. | |
fair day's work as an issue in it areas like the is a I come from in | :35:30. | :35:39. | |
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North Wales. One of the things in agricultural and rural communities | :35:43. | :35:49. | |
is that the central government has done away with wage councils which | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
regulated the rates of pay given to people in that sector. Up what was | :35:55. | :36:01. | |
interesting in Adrian's film was that, apart from the experts and | :36:01. | :36:07. | |
pundits, people were talking about the expectations of the income from | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
when they start work. There were worries and from young people. | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
There is no requirement on companies to do so but some | :36:16. | :36:22. | |
companies have signed up so there is Ombersley some will towards it. | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
-- obviously. It is a matter now after the local government | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
elections in May this year to work with the new local authorities. I | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
was really proud last week that Birmingham, a local authority taken | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
back by Labour, announced last week that it would in future be a living | :36:40. | :36:50. | |
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wage employer. Securing half the Assembly seats last year, Labour | :36:50. | :36:58. | |
have still not made any impact. They were regained by Labour and | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
the council elections a few weeks ago so there is a good bit of | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
timing here. The Assembly government has been there for a | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
year and the Welsh Government is now living wage employer. We are | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
now able to work with more Labour local authorities in Wales and I am | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
optimistic that we will see Welsh local authorities are moving in the | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
same direction as Birmingham and the Scottish local authorities and | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
set themselves up as a living wage employers will step what about the | :37:26. | :37:32. | |
argument that this is a backdoor way of increasing the minimum wage? | :37:33. | :37:38. | |
This is the classic debate. I mentioned earlier in the discussion | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
this was made when introducing the minimum wage, how do you set in | :37:43. | :37:49. | |
comes and wages? Do you allow the market to regulate itself up or do | :37:49. | :37:57. | |
you have a more regulated form? This is a classic economic and | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
political argument. We have been here before back in at the early | :38:02. | :38:09. | |
days of the first Labour government. Putting it into a wider context | :38:09. | :38:16. | |
across the area, it is a challenge. It is an issue that arises in all | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
aspects of policy. When people hear the right words, the expected eight | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
actions to follow. When they see and hear the Assembly government | :38:26. | :38:32. | |
committing itself to a living wage and committing local authorities to | :38:32. | :38:38. | |
being blooding wage authorities, they expect actions to follow. -- | :38:38. | :38:45. | |
living wage. The Welsh government has a target of eradicating child | :38:45. | :38:51. | |
poverty by Twenty20. It is now throwing a new policy it there to | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
increase wage levels. Is that recognition of the fact that what | :38:55. | :39:05. | |
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they have tried so far as spelling? -- is failing. Trying to eradicate | :39:05. | :39:11. | |
child poverty, the first steps are the easiest. You can reach the | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
family's closest to the poverty line and move them up. Moving | :39:14. | :39:19. | |
further on, you need that further set of policies to reach those | :39:19. | :39:24. | |
families further away from the policy line. -- poverty line. The | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
next steps will be harder and more work is needed and a softer policy | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
is just what is required. In just a few moments time, there | :39:34. | :39:43. | |
significant change happening with power police forces or run. Elected | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
police commissioners will replace the existing police are authorities | :39:45. | :39:53. | |
with the abilities to set police budgets and higher chief constables. | :39:53. | :40:02. | |
-- hire. On 15th November, the public will be invited to vote for | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
who they want to oversee their police authorities. There will be | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
elections for the public to vote for their preferred candidate in | :40:11. | :40:16. | |
terms of who they want to set local police priorities and strategy. Not | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
to deliver policing, that will be in the hands of the Chief Constable, | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
but to provide a framework in which the Chief Constable pursues his | :40:26. | :40:34. | |
political strategies. How big a change is this? This is potentially | :40:34. | :40:39. | |
a very significant change to police governance. It is a unique system. | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
There is nothing like this around the world so it is pretty unique. | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
It could be quite profound but it could also be a very challenging | :40:49. | :40:54. | |
role for the people elected because policing is a very complex job. | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
They will have to reconcile some fairly difficult priorities at the | :40:59. | :41:06. | |
current time. How are where are the general public about this change? | :41:06. | :41:11. | |
For what I have seen, there is fairly limited awareness of what is | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
going on and what he will be asked to do it. You have to think now | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
about how are you going to motivate people and encourage them to turn | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
out and vote in November for something they have not done before | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
and there is not a high level of understanding about what is going | :41:27. | :41:35. | |
to happen. The recent survey suggested that | :41:35. | :41:39. | |
57% of those questioned knew nothing about these elections. | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
Hardly surprising? It does not surprise me and released and in | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
addition to not knowing what is going to happen, I would argue from | :41:49. | :41:55. | |
the feedback I have heard, they do not know what is going to happen | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
and have even less interest. What concerns people is that when they | :42:00. | :42:07. | |
need a police officer, however high or low level that crime as, that | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
there is a police officer there to respond to their need at that | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
particular time. People don't know what is happening and Labour don't | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
know what to make of it. The where initially against it but now there | :42:19. | :42:24. | |
is a whole host of prominent names, such as John Prescott, pitting | :42:24. | :42:30. | |
themselves forward. What is the Labour position now, four against? | :42:30. | :42:35. | |
We were against the creation of police commissioners. We thought | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
that they were a distraction that it money away from frontline | :42:38. | :42:44. | |
policing but the law is now the law. The Conservatives and Liberal | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
Democrats have made it clear they are going ahead so the Labour Party | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
will fight these elections any thoroughgoing way. We will put | :42:51. | :42:57. | |
forward serious candidates for a serious job. Tough on crime, tough | :42:57. | :43:03. | |
on the causes of crime was the election slogan for Tony Blair. The | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
big it is interesting that they are police and crime commissioners. | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
They have both the instruments for tackling crime or when it happens | :43:10. | :43:16. | |
at also have a role in preventing crime and the future, tough on the | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
causes of crime. We need people to understand these issues and to are | :43:20. | :43:27. | |
able to take a strategic grip on them. They will have an interest in | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
all the things that local authorities do to help ensure crime | :43:30. | :43:35. | |
does not happen in the first place. The UK government say they have | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
scrapped central targets and have released more police officers to go | :43:38. | :43:47. | |
on the beat. Visit the commonsense moved to have people on the local | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
level who are in charge of putting police chief constables under the | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
microscope and told them to account? The issue is what he or | :43:57. | :44:04. | |
she is actually a responsible for. There is a possibility of a tension | :44:04. | :44:10. | |
between the police commissioner and the punts -- chief constable. The | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
commission will set the budget but how that money is spent is a matter | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
for the operational spending and that is this what ability of the | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
chief constable. We have not had a November election for a long time. | :44:25. | :44:31. | |
What you think the turnout will be like? Absolutely abysmal. The last | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
November election I remember was in 1974 and it was not a very happy | :44:36. | :44:41. | |
occasion. Time for a look back at some of the political stories of | :44:41. | :44:51. | |
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the week. The Assembly's deputy presiding | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
officer like a wreath to mark the 30th anniversary of the Falklands | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
war. As clearing up began after the | :44:59. | :45:06. | |
floods, Ieuan Wyn Jones arch the insurance companies to act with | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
speed and efficiency. J fund was set up to help people without | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
insurance. The Welsh government accused | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
Pembrokeshire council of failing in its duty to safeguard children. It | :45:18. | :45:26. | |
has emerged knew it evidence has been passed to police. | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has accused Welsh Labour of playing | :45:29. | :45:35. | |
a plane game or the country's wars. In a visit to Cardiff, it said the | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
Welsh government should accept more responsibility. | :45:39. | :45:49. | |
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An Assembly inquiry into football. Let's get Wales to Brazil in 2014. | :45:53. | :46:00. | |
I don't know if we have any midfield maestro has on the panel | :46:00. | :46:07. | |
but let's look at the worrying situation in Pembrokeshire? Is this | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
posturing of something more concerted than that? There is | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
nothing about political posturing in this. The Minister has said in a | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
team of people to try to help services and Pembrokeshire to | :46:18. | :46:23. | |
recover from what had happened and to improve. He is acting on the | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
information coming back from them which is saying the more they going | :46:27. | :46:32. | |
to all of this, the more trouble the uncovering. It is a very | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
serious response to a very serious situation. If it is not political | :46:36. | :46:41. | |
posturing, what about Nick Clegg's visit to Cardiff telling Labour to | :46:41. | :46:47. | |
take more responsibility for the money it spends? Can I pick up on | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
that last dancer. The analogy of course is with what happened in | :46:52. | :46:59. | |
Anglesey with governance issues they across the board for step the | :46:59. | :47:02. | |
intervention Board where did not work and the Minister had to move | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
to the next stage which was to take charge of the authority itself and | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
appoint his own people there to run the place. That intervention is | :47:12. | :47:17. | |
coming to an end and the shed will to end up in the later part of this | :47:17. | :47:26. | |
year. -- scheduled to end. The same issues I think all arise here in | :47:26. | :47:36. | |
Pembrokeshire. Nick Clegg's visit? One thing mentioned is the views of | :47:36. | :47:45. | |
a number of the other parties and Wales. The march to a mature | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
democracy means democratic institutions have to take | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
responsibility for the services they provide but that raises the | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
question of the resources and the first place. I have to ask you one | :47:56. | :48:01. | |
question for step we know the draft bill for organ donation will be | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
published in June. How do you think this will address those concerns | :48:05. | :48:12. | |
some people have about family vetoes? I think it will be taken | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
slowly. There is a white paper and then a draft bill before the final | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
bill. The draft bill will what to continue some very important | :48:20. | :48:26. | |
discussions with groups out here who have taken a close interest. | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
Family views will be taken into account but it is a draft bill in | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
order that people who feel strongly about this will know that their | :48:33. | :48:37. |