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And in the Midlands, what price philanthropy. As donations to the | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
arts for by a quarter. Said Doug Ellis tells us about the | :01:41. | :01:51. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1767 seconds | :01:51. | :31:18. | |
Welcome welcome to the Sunday Politics in the Midlands. | :31:18. | :31:23. | |
Coming up, a sharp fall in donations to the arts. If poor will | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
pick up the mantle of this great Midlands philanthropists of the | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
past? First, let us meet our Mac guests, | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
the new Conservative MP for the West Midlands, Anthea McIntyre, | :31:34. | :31:39. | |
under Labour MP for Wolverhampton South East, Pat McFadden. | :31:39. | :31:44. | |
Unemployment up again, nearly a quarter of a million Midlanders. | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
How can Labour say that you would do anything differently for them | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
given that you would not know reverse the spending cuts? It is | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
really worrying. Unemployment is at a 17 year high. It is even more | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
worrying among young people, where one in five are looking for work. | :32:01. | :32:06. | |
My own constituency has a worse problem than average. | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
But you have muddled your message by saying you would not reverse the | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
cuts, but in many ways are driving these figures? The we are in an era | :32:15. | :32:21. | |
of less money. We fought the election campaign, on having the | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
deficit of four years, and I have always said, had Labour won the | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
election there would be a lot of tough decisions. But that does not | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
mean we agree with the pace and scale of the deficit Reaction | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
propos de -- double -- reduction programme. If we do not agree with | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
abolishing the future jobs fund. What it does mean is, in three | :32:41. | :32:47. | |
years' time, we are going to have to take the situation as we find it. | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
Anthea, not on the is there evidence your policies are working, | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
there is evidence that they are not. The most important thing is to | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
recognise that the way to get employment to increase is actually | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
through stimulating small businesses to grow, and to get to | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
the private sector to mop up the unemployment figures that we are | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
seeing inevitably from the cutbacks in Government spending. So it is | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
important to come up with the incentives that make employers in | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
the West Midlands want to take on people. Let us now get to grips | :33:20. | :33:26. | |
with our tops story, the increase in serious untoward incidents at | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
Stafford Hospital. It is already the subject of two public inquiries | :33:29. | :33:34. | |
into failing standards of care. In another development, the reopening | :33:35. | :33:39. | |
of of a night A&E, originally planned for March, will almost | :33:39. | :33:46. | |
certainly be delayed. Our health correspondent, Anthea McIntyre. | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
Appalling standards of care at Stafford Hospital were confirmed in | :33:49. | :33:54. | |
2009, but despite a focus on quality, a number of serious | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
incidents continued to rise. Although this may in part be back - | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
- down to better reporting. At a public meeting this week, but | :34:02. | :34:10. | |
reasons were openly challenged. you look at the period 2009-2010, | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
and the subsequent year, the numbers seem to have almost doubled. | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
When accident and emergency at the hospital closed overnight, if | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
patients' safety was the reason given. The trust was struggling to | :34:21. | :34:25. | |
recruit key staff. Progress is now being made, but the reopening of | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
A&E is likely to be delayed. What have we learned about the long-term | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
future of A&E in Midlands hospitals? The nature of care that | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
week the nature of care that we provide is changing. We need to | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
make sure that we deliver care for patients out of hours, and that | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
they can access it easily and get the advice they need. That they | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
means that hospital care has to change. | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
As the Labour Government fine when it closed Kidderminster Hospital's | :34:53. | :35:01. | |
A&E, it is political suicide. The junior minister lost its seat. In | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
opposition that intensive said they would stop the forced closure of | :35:05. | :35:11. | |
A&E and maternity wards. Now they talk of urgent care centres. What | :35:11. | :35:17. | |
do they mean? What it does mean is not a conventional although Mike | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
A&E at every district hospital. Pat, New Cross Hospital in Wolverhampton | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
in your city is one of the cities that is taking the strain of a | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
night from Stafford, so you have a direct role in this. | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
I think it is really sad to see Stafford Hospital running into | :35:35. | :35:43. | |
trouble again. There have been to victims of what has happened there. | :35:43. | :35:47. | |
Unnecessary deaths, was directly those who died and their families, | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
but more directly I think the population in Stafford need to have | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
trust and confidence in their local hospital, and with new figures | :35:54. | :35:59. | |
coming out that are worrying, with problems in the A&E, I think there | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
is an urgent task now for this hospital to rebuild its trust and | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
confidence with the local population. | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
And fear do you think that trust and confidence can be rebuilt? | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
People are going to be concerned about what an urgent care centre | :36:15. | :36:22. | |
means. Do they not expect overnight they need to mean just that? | :36:22. | :36:29. | |
think everybody wants urgent care when they need it. A&E care. | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
Yes, and I think the most important thing is to get to grips with | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
management. I spent many years as a management consultant and I think | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
poor performance nominee equates to poor management. I think we have to | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
look very carefully at the governance of the hospital. There | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
needs to be complete transparency. The public needs to feel that they | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
can go in, see what is happening, if your relative is not receiving | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
proper care you need to fear you can say something and not feel | :36:57. | :37:05. | |
frightened by what the results may be. That is all-important. As I | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
understand it there is a shortage of middle ranking emergency | :37:08. | :37:17. | |
specialist doctors. There have been staff problems there, staff there | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
were cut too much in the past, but I think we have to stand back and | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
say there is no reason why a place the size of Stafford cannot have a | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
good hospital, cannot have a A&E department, and cannot run a local | :37:30. | :37:36. | |
health service that has the trust and confidence of local people. | :37:36. | :37:40. | |
Michele Paduano made the point that political suicide is what is | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
involved with hospital sometimes if they go badly. It did not go well | :37:45. | :37:52. | |
for David Lock in why Forest, or David kidney in Stafford. This is | :37:52. | :37:58. | |
really politically a very sensitive issue for all the main parties. | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
obviously we have said that we will maintain funding for the NHS, and | :38:02. | :38:10. | |
that is very important. Even though it is being fragmented. What people | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
are worried about is getting the care they need when they need it. | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
The Organisation to the individual is not that important - let us | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
sorted in a way that we can see that we are getting the care we | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
need, and that we can trust the clinicians to do their job, and | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
management to allow them to do it. And to monitor and to measure what | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
is happening, and ensure that we are increasingly getting good | :38:33. | :38:38. | |
standards. So far the world has not caved in overnight using this new | :38:38. | :38:45. | |
arrangement. When we left office at the general election, satisfaction | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
levels with the general -- NHS were running at their highest ever | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
recorded. A lot more staff had been recruited, but sadly what we had | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
seen since then is waiting times going up, an increase of all the | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
40% in the number of people waiting more than 18 weeks for treatment. | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
And I think there must bring the NHS needs in the circumstances it | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
is another huge reorganisation, which the Government seems | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
determined to push through. Next up, a sharp fall in donations | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
to the arts here in the Midlands is revealed in figures just out. The | :39:20. | :39:22. | |
Treasury has since introduced policies to increase donations, but | :39:22. | :39:27. | |
will we ever buy into the idea of philanthropy American-style? Those | :39:27. | :39:35. | |
who do give have been talking to reporter two. | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
He the Big Society - whether it is ideology or a way to plug gaps left | :39:40. | :39:46. | |
by cuts, it means individuals doing and giving more. The Staffordshire | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
Community Trust helps support good causes like this Riding Centre for | :39:50. | :39:56. | |
the disabled near stock. It is convinced wealthy locals to donate | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
�2.5 million in the last two years. This is very much the Big Society, | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
but are you having to twist people's arms to persuade them that | :40:04. | :40:11. | |
it is a good idea to give away money? | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
Well thing people want to know that their hard earned money is going to | :40:14. | :40:22. | |
be used in the right way. -- wealthy people. And that is where | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
community foundations across the country really score highly. | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
The Government wants it to become the norm for everyone to leave | :40:28. | :40:33. | |
money to charity when they die, and in an effort to boost this Big | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
Society idea, in the Budget the Chancellor announced a deal. Leave | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
10% of your estate to good causes, and get a 10% discount on | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
inheritance tax. But there is concern that whatever | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
the encouragement, it will not be enough. The first ever survey of | :40:50. | :40:52. | |
the arts industry showed a sharp decline in donations. | :40:52. | :40:56. | |
Across England there was a drop of 11%, while the West Midlands or | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
decrease of nearly a quarter. The report says the region has "some of | :41:01. | :41:02. | |
the lowest contributions from business, trusts and foundations, | :41:02. | :41:08. | |
and individual giving". Needing one MP to conclude, the | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
rich need to do more. The poor give more of their money in terms of | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
percentage income than the rich. And actually the middle classes and | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
the rich needs to give more of their money. | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
For Man therapy is nothing new. Men like Josiah Wedgwood and George | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
Cadbury believed that with great wealth came great responsibility. | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
So do today's super rich share their sense of duty? Former Aston | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
Villa on a diet Ellis was knighted in the New Year Honours List for | :41:36. | :41:43. | |
his charitable work. -- Dodd Ellis. I know what I know what it is to be | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
humble, and poor, and if I can help poor people, I will do it. | :41:48. | :41:54. | |
A lot more people would be involved in charity in some way or another. | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
And there are so many causes that need money. | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
The question some will be asking, is whether the Big Society will be | :42:02. | :42:08. | |
big enough. Time for some of that responsible | :42:08. | :42:16. | |
of popular capitalism, perhaps. Also with us here today, a | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
representative from the Arts Council in the West Midlands. No | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
surprise in the present times that donations are going down, but maybe | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
the speed at which they have gone down in are part of the country? | :42:27. | :42:36. | |
Those figures were over the three years up to 2009, 2010. But I think | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
the figures are a fair reflection of the impact that the recession is | :42:39. | :42:45. | |
having on the region, and also the creation of a very tough climate | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
for arts organisations. They are looking to attract money from the | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
private sector and from individuals. Is one of the worry is that if you | :42:52. | :42:57. | |
look at the top end, the big organisations like the City of | :42:57. | :43:02. | |
Birmingham Symphony Orchestra, they have got very sophisticated fund- | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
raising operations - smaller, more community focused organisations may | :43:07. | :43:13. | |
not have a so many sophisticated means? It is much harder for arts | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
organisations in the region outside of London, and those that may be do | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
not have the profile and the connections that some of the larger | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
organisations do. That is why we have been working with Government | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
and the Department of Culture on a new scheme to try and incentive | :43:29. | :43:37. | |
fires and match new money... does that work? It is a scheme, | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
with �100 million investment, although the next few years. One of | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
the aspects is about increasing endowments, particularly for larger | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
fund raisers, but there is also something about building the | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
capacity and looking at helping organisations find more innovative | :43:53. | :44:01. | |
ways of making that money. Every pound raised will be matched out of | :44:01. | :44:06. | |
that �100 million national programme. Anthea, presumably part | :44:06. | :44:12. | |
of the idea is to wean the arts of the public purse? I think it is | :44:12. | :44:17. | |
great to see public involvement, people spend their money more | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
wisely, and let us encourage it. We have a terrific history in the | :44:22. | :44:27. | |
Midlands of philanthropy over the years, the proprietor of the | :44:27. | :44:34. | |
Birmingham Daily Post, half of the art galleries are due to him. If we | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
can encourage more people to be like Doug Ellis, that is fantastic. | :44:38. | :44:43. | |
It is not really the role of the state to be like a zoo keeper at | :44:43. | :44:47. | |
throwing fish out to performing seals, it is much better if they | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
get direct ownership in what they are doing? I think of public and | :44:51. | :44:56. | |
private sector and private giving have a role to play here. I do | :44:56. | :45:02. | |
think Government has its job to do here, but I also hope, we heard the | :45:02. | :45:06. | |
names like Josiah Wedgwood and George Cadbury - their equivalents | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
today do have a role to play. This is important, not just in terms of | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
the arts as quality of life, we do not live by bread alone. But we | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
should not underestimate the economic impact. The creative | :45:21. | :45:26. | |
industries on the hall are now about 7% of our economy. This is an | :45:26. | :45:32. | |
area where Britain excels. So we should back what we are good at, as | :45:32. | :45:37. | |
our economy changes in the future. Have the arts in the past been | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
guilty of a kind of dependency culture as far as state handouts | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
are concerned? I think one of the rules strengths of the English | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
funding system is that mixed funding model. So that you get that | :45:49. | :45:54. | |
relationship between the public, the private, and individual giving. | :45:54. | :46:00. | |
When you have a dependency on any one sort of funding, the | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
Organisation has become less resilient, and ought not in a | :46:03. | :46:08. | |
sustainable. One thing Tristram Hunt said, the less well off, | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
proportionally are more generous, does that tally with you reading of | :46:11. | :46:19. | |
this? We have heard a lot about responsible capitalism lately, | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
including from our party, and I have got no objection to somebody | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
working hard and doing well and enjoying the rewards, but I hope | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
people are in that position -- I hope that people in that position | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
to put something back, for the cultural well-being of society and | :46:35. | :46:39. | |
also because it has a good economic impact too. | :46:39. | :46:46. | |
We have seen Doug Ellis, we also know others - but where is the new | :46:46. | :46:51. | |
generation coming from? I think a lot of people are contributing at | :46:51. | :46:56. | |
as much smaller level to their local community. In my own region, | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
the local community have taken on a dilapidated old community centre, | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
complete the turned it round, local businesses have done it, and it is | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
a will committee assets now. Do you think we have been meeting of | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
minds? Yes, but I think there is a real challenge in terms of in some | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
devising new money from the private sector. Not as a replacement for | :47:18. | :47:24. | |
public funding, but to complement it. Individual givers will always | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
want to see their contributions making a difference and adding | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
value, not replacing the sort of revenue funding... So there is an | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
incentive for business to get involved? That is what our scheme | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
will provide - to really start to change that culture of asking and | :47:40. | :47:46. | |
giving in to the arts. Now for our summary of the | :47:46. | :47:48. | |
political week in the Midlands, with BBC WM's Breakfast presenter | :47:49. | :47:58. | |
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Staff at a Birmingham primary school will walk out on Wednesday | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
over plans to convert it into an academy. They say they have been | :48:07. | :48:11. | |
kept in the dark. Labour MP and former union leader | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
Jack Dromey had to apologise for breaking financial roles. If he | :48:15. | :48:21. | |
failed to declare almost �30,000 from the unit -- Unite union. | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
I want to apologise unreservedly to the house, and I will in future | :48:25. | :48:28. | |
fully abide by the Rules of the house. | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
Two months ago they won a High Court battle to keep | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
Gloucestershire's library is open, if but now campaigners fear new | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
plans are being drawn up. It is thought proposals would affect | :48:39. | :48:45. | |
three fewer libraries this time. After being incinerated on the | :48:45. | :48:50. | |
Government's quangos, British Waterways is preparing for life as | :48:50. | :48:53. | |
a charity. They want volunteers to work on the Midlands locks fall | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
stop and start at BBC Birmingham what out on strikes this -- walked | :48:57. | :49:01. | |
out this week over plans to move gardener's World and farming Today | :49:01. | :49:07. | |
to Bristol. Taking up that story about the | :49:07. | :49:12. | |
proposed academy, they feel that they are in the dark - so much for | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
community focused... This academy is a top-down idea by Michael Gove. | :49:17. | :49:24. | |
No, individual schools have applied to become academies. I do not know | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
about that particular case, but in the majority of cases it has very | :49:28. | :49:32. | |
much been a case of staff, governors, joining together and | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
saying they want to take the school forward. If there are many places | :49:35. | :49:39. | |
who want to become an academy. academies were also involved during | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
your watch. We have got to developing in | :49:44. | :49:47. | |
Wolverhampton, and I am very strongly in favour of that. We | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
could not tolerate a situation where children, often the children | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
who were not built the best hand in terms of advantages, were | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
continuing to get poorer education results, and academies are a way of | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
addressing that and really lifting aspiration and standards. | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
Turning to the case of Jack Dromey, your political opponents have said | :50:09. | :50:11. | |
it provides yet again the question surrounding the relationship | :50:11. | :50:16. | |
between your party annual union paymasters? Jack gave a statement | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
of apology in the House of Commons, he was found to have broken the | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
rules on funding, and I think it is important if somebody has broken | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
the rules, but they apologise for that, because after everything that | :50:28. | :50:33. | |
has happened between funding and politics in recent years, it is a | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
real job to restore trust. And fear, is there a serious political point | :50:38. | :50:44. | |
to this? -- and fear. I think he has done the right thing in | :50:44. | :50:50. | |
apologising - it has become very important for all of us in any of | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
this that we can rely on each other, in every party, to do the right | :50:54. | :50:57. |