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the number of offenders receiving Hello. Coming up today. The victims | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
of crime who say they have been let down by the law, as MPs demand | :39:47. | :39:55. | |
action over the number of offenders receiving cautions. Our guests | :39:55. | :40:01. | |
today Akbar Alec Shelbrooke, Karl Turner and we will also be speaking | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
to George Galloway as a new report looks at the impact of his by- | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
election victory in Bradford. Alec Shelbrooke, we're talking about | :40:11. | :40:19. | |
crime. Do people feel any safer? crime. Do people feel any safer? | :40:19. | :40:26. | |
Certainly, the feedback is that seeing the PCSOs, people feel they | :40:26. | :40:35. | |
have a point of contact. Crime figures have gone down. We have to | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
temper that with the reports in the police -- in the press about how | :40:38. | :40:43. | |
police numbers are reducing and people can get more fearful of | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
crime despite the evidence pointing the opposite way. Karl Turner, do | :40:47. | :40:53. | |
people have faith in the criminal justice system? Not in my | :40:53. | :40:58. | |
constituency. MPs across the board are getting a lot of Post about | :40:58. | :41:04. | |
this issue. People don't think they're getting justice as victims | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
of crime. We are hearing about loss of cases where people had ended up | :41:08. | :41:16. | |
with a caution for a serious criminal offending. I have asked | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
for a special inquiry into this issue because victims of crime in | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
my area are telling me they feel let down. I don't know if it is | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
people not reporting that crime, but in my area people don't feel | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
safe and they certainly don't feel they're getting justice when they | :41:34. | :41:40. | |
are being victims. There is concern that many criminals are not being | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
brought to justice in court rooms across Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
Victims of crime claimed that offenders are too often receiving | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
police cautions or being released due to a lack of evidence. MPs are | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
urging the government to investigate a number of cases where | :41:55. | :42:01. | |
prosecutions have been dropped. Many victims of crime feel let down | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
by the justice system. Paul Harper's wife and daughter were | :42:05. | :42:11. | |
both injured to when their car was hit by a speeding driver in East | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
Yorkshire. A we are left with nothing now. They left for the | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
daughter who can hardly walk, who had to go up university and her job. | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
Her life has been put to one side. The driver of the car was initially | :42:25. | :42:31. | |
charged with dangerous driving, but the case never went to trial. | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
occupants of the car got off for dangerous driving, they got off | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
perverting the kit -- the Court of Justice, and the owner of the car | :42:39. | :42:45. | |
got off with paying for his insurance on stolen credit card. | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
The airbag was allowed to be destroyed which had the DNA | :42:49. | :42:54. | |
evidence on it. When I went to the judge, he advised that possibly it | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
was a weak case on that point because the defence couldn't have | :42:57. | :43:03. | |
access to the airbag. We put Mr Hopper's concerns to Humberside | :43:03. | :43:10. | |
Police. I can understand they feel that all let them down. We can only | :43:10. | :43:16. | |
operate given the evidence. The court came to the view that it | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
would be unsafe to prosecute the person who we suspected was the | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
driver. I know the family were concerned that the airbag was | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
destroyed before the trial, but I reassured them that the airbag was | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
on the evidence. The evidence was the DNA and that was put before the | :43:30. | :43:33. | |
court. Buster was an indication that the person might have been | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
sacked in the fund driver's seed, the evidence was and compelling | :43:37. | :43:47. | |
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enough to prove the case -- seat. As a cancer sufferer himself, | :43:48. | :43:52. | |
Graham has raised a thousands of pounds for cancer charities. He | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
recently held a fundraising event at his local village hall in East | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
Yorkshire. But the evening was marred when it was revealed that | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
one of the guests had stolen almost �500 in cash from the raffle | :44:05. | :44:10. | |
proceeds. The thief in question was not charged and received a police | :44:10. | :44:16. | |
caution. Do you feel justice has been done? Not at all. They should | :44:16. | :44:22. | |
have been more done. Even if there was some sort if community service, | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
even if it wasn't in the community but if it was to go and help out | :44:26. | :44:34. | |
with the cancer charities so they know how hard it is to raise �400. | :44:34. | :44:40. | |
It took us a lot of organising. is a subject that concerns many | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
Yorkshire MPs. Can we have a debate on the use of police cautions? This | :44:46. | :44:52. | |
week we have had the case of a burglar who admitted 113 offences | :44:52. | :44:57. | |
and was given a police caution. Some lawyers argue that changes to | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
the way our legal system is funded and cuts to the legal aid budget | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
could lead to fewer prosecutions. While we promoter our legal system | :45:07. | :45:14. | |
worldwide, we are busy dismantling yet at home. The cost to the public | :45:14. | :45:21. | |
both in financial terms and real terms is going to be enormous. | :45:21. | :45:26. | |
While the police and Crown Prosecution Service successfully in | :45:26. | :45:28. | |
sure that many criminals are brought before the courts, some | :45:28. | :45:35. | |
victims are left with the distinct feeling of rough justice. | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
Can you understand why so many victims of crime are angry when | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
they are not seeing criminals in the dock? Absolutely. I fully agree | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
with my colleague there when he is questioning the fact that not | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
enough people are being charged. If we just take the case of the chap | :45:51. | :45:57. | |
who stole the money from the cancer charity, sorry, the woman, if they | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
had been charged and gone to a magistrates' court, community | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
service could have been passed down to that person to go and work in | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
the cancer charity sector. They should understand the consequences | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
of their actions and put something back into society. A police caution | :46:13. | :46:18. | |
is not good enough. The number of cautions being issued has actually | :46:18. | :46:23. | |
fallen. Us that your experience, Karl Turner's certainly not. There | :46:23. | :46:33. | |
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is a massive increase in my area. A 78-year-old man was punched in the | :46:33. | :46:39. | |
face by an offender and that was a caution. I know judges in my area | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
of Humberside who would have definitely sent that offenders to | :46:42. | :46:49. | |
prison, even for a first offence. If not present, then a heavy | :46:49. | :46:57. | |
community penalty. Where is the Rehabilitation and that? You lose - | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
- to leave victims of crime feeling that justice has not been done. The | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
problem is that the police budgets and resources are very tight. The | :47:05. | :47:11. | |
same goes for the CPS. The police blame the CPS and they blame the | :47:11. | :47:17. | |
police. Victims of crime are suffering as a result. So they're | :47:17. | :47:21. | |
working with small budgets? That is a fact. The budget has been cut as | :47:22. | :47:24. | |
part of the Government's spending review and they have been brought | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
down. There's a couple of report and points. First of all, some | :47:29. | :47:38. | |
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accountability has to come in. If we come back to the overall issue | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
of where we are with policing and people wandering about, we do have | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
the police and crime commissioners. They need to be approached and | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
spoken about. That is the person who can bring these two factions | :47:55. | :48:01. | |
together. Doesn't the legal profession have a part to play? If | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
somebody is down and the cells talking to you and they cough and | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
they admit to their crime, surely you should be encouraging them to | :48:09. | :48:16. | |
save the taxpayer a lot of money? In some circumstances, as the lists | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
for -- a solicitor in a police station will do that. The solicitor | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
is there to act in the best interests of their client. They are | :48:24. | :48:29. | |
not there to act in the interests of anybody else, they have got to | :48:29. | :48:34. | |
give professional legal advice and do compulsory training which | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
continues. They are there to act for the client, not for anybody | :48:37. | :48:43. | |
else. We are going to talk about Bradford now. It is almost a year | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
since George Galloway pulled off his historic when in the Bradford | :48:47. | :48:52. | |
West by-election. Now a new report has criticised Labour for | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
complacency leading to the loss of a seat it had held for decades. The | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
research, carried out by political think-tank Democratic Audit, is | :49:00. | :49:08. | |
published tomorrow it. The national media Museum, a fitting place to | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
launch a report into the factors behind what it calls for Bradford | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
earthquake, because it argues television and social media played | :49:16. | :49:26. | |
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a major part in causing it. This is a two-round based press TV. George | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
Galloway has has -- has had his own TV programme on here three years. | :49:38. | :49:43. | |
Aimed at Arabic countries, his fear is that see him as a serious | :49:43. | :49:50. | |
political commentator. It was a major factor in George Galloway's | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
success in winning votes in the Bradford by-election. It is a major | :49:56. | :49:58. | |
change from how we have historically understood the power | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
of television. Back in the 50s, everybody would watch the same | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
channel because there was only one. Now we have got hundreds. People | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
would have seen George Galloway talking on the Iranian press to be, | :50:10. | :50:15. | |
they will have listened to him on talks bought, they would have seen | :50:15. | :50:18. | |
him to confront the US Senedd on one of you tube's favourite ever | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
political clubs. Channels and programmes more popular with the | :50:23. | :50:32. | |
Muslim population in Bradford and say, celebrity big brother. -- than | :50:32. | :50:42. | |
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say. The Sunday politics debate was crucial. It showcased brought a | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
way's skills. George Galloway's news of social media was much | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
smarter than the other parties. He was the first politician to have a | :50:53. | :51:03. | |
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special little application for iPhones. Other politicians were | :51:03. | :51:09. | |
slow-moving. The report also highlights how mainstream parties | :51:09. | :51:15. | |
took up the votes of young Asian voters and women for granted, by | :51:15. | :51:22. | |
negotiating with Elders who decided how their family clan would vote. | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
Do you think you have smashed that the clan system? It is something | :51:25. | :51:31. | |
which has existed for thousands of years. I think there has been | :51:31. | :51:37. | |
cracks within it. We want to encourage a unified Bradford | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
through political engagement of diverse communities. Labour held | :51:43. | :51:47. | |
its own internal investigation into how it lost a seat it had held for | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
38 years. But admitted complacency by was lying on its historic | :51:51. | :52:00. | |
support -- by relying. Had it used that L the clan system, it may have | :52:00. | :52:10. | |
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hoovered up votes -- had it used its L The clan system. We took very | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
seriously the loss in Bradford, the idea that votes had been taken for | :52:14. | :52:24. | |
granted. Mr George Galloway, Member of Parliament for Bradford West! | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
And then there was the all- important razzmatazz, promoting | :52:28. | :52:34. | |
policies that clearly appealed to a much wider electorate. Open-topped | :52:34. | :52:42. | |
buses and those legendary Galloway oratory skills. And George Galloway | :52:42. | :52:47. | |
joins us now. Welcome back to Sunday Politics. You're credited of | :52:47. | :52:53. | |
breaking this system of political tribal loyalty. You feel that | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
normal service could be resumed at the general election? I thought I | :52:58. | :53:01. | |
had died and gone to heaven listening to that report, I must | :53:01. | :53:06. | |
tell you. It was almost as good as the day itself. Of course the proof | :53:06. | :53:11. | |
of the bidding will be in the eating. The next election will tell | :53:11. | :53:21. | |
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us whether that system you describe to, involving parties negotiating, | :53:21. | :53:29. | |
will then deliver votes -- the proof of the pudding. I believe | :53:29. | :53:36. | |
myself that it has gone in Bradford because I don't think that having | :53:36. | :53:40. | |
seen them, they're going to be able to put them back on the farm. The | :53:40. | :53:50. | |
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people who came and vote for us, if -- voted for us, their families | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
also voted 60 years ago. There has to be a better reason for voting | :53:58. | :54:03. | |
for someone than that. But time will tell. Karl Turner, D want to | :54:03. | :54:11. | |
deal with that. That Labour to can awful lot of voters for granted in | :54:11. | :54:18. | |
Bradford -- do you want to. I think that George Galloway factor was a | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
definite issue. He is a forceful character and very charismatic. I | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
think that had an effect. We also think there was a feeling that we | :54:26. | :54:30. | |
had taken the electorate for granted and I'm sure we have | :54:30. | :54:35. | |
learned from that mistake. We have won the by-election in Rotherham, | :54:35. | :54:41. | |
we won in Manchester, we have one other by-elections, Croydon. George | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
Galloway, we may have seen the Bradford's brink but we certainly | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
didn't see the Rotherham spring. Your success wasn't repeated in the | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
by-election there's no, but we did beat both the Tories and the | :54:54. | :55:04. | |
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Liberal Democrats, there were supposed that is not as good as it | :55:04. | :55:11. | |
once was -- although I suppose. the medium is important. The | :55:11. | :55:18. | |
message has to match the medium, however. Peter Mandelson modernised | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
Labour's methods of communication, but if the message you're | :55:21. | :55:26. | |
communicating is one of support for war, which they now call missions | :55:26. | :55:34. | |
for austerity, not quite as fast, then it just went wash with large | :55:34. | :55:37. | |
sections of the committee who need something radically different. | :55:37. | :55:43. | |
Bradford West has 10 % rise year on year in its unemployment figures. | :55:43. | :55:48. | |
We are in an economic emergency in Bradford West. If you're not | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
addressing those fact, it doesn't matter how well you put your point | :55:51. | :55:57. | |
of view in terms of the method of communication, the message just | :55:57. | :56:03. | |
doesn't match up. Alec Shelbrooke, could your own party learned | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
anything from George Galloway? learnt a lot in 1997 when a lot of | :56:08. | :56:11. | |
Conservative MPs have become very arrogant and taken their electorate | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
for granted. I think what became apparent to me when I was out in | :56:17. | :56:20. | |
the Bradford West by-election was that having gone there, thinking to | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
myself that we may have a chance if George Galloway split the Labour | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
vote, as soon as you get on the street and did a street campaign, | :56:29. | :56:37. | |
you realise he was going to walk it. You have got to communicate with | :56:37. | :56:47. | |
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your electorate. We have now got a round-up of 60 seconds of the | :56:48. | :56:56. | |
political news. Cuts to the army including York -- Yorkshire and | :56:56. | :57:03. | |
Lincolnshire regiments angered the Scunthorpe Labour MP. On Monday, | :57:03. | :57:09. | |
the Prime Minister stated that the task for our generation was the | :57:09. | :57:14. | |
struggle against terrorism. On Tuesday, his government sacked | :57:14. | :57:19. | |
5,600 troops. Figures out this week show a fall in unemployment, but | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
our region still has the third highest level in the country with | :57:22. | :57:30. | |
almost nine % out of work. New Kipp MEP Godfrey Bloom was not impressed | :57:30. | :57:36. | |
by the Prime Minister of's promise of renegotiating our EU membership | :57:37. | :57:43. | |
terms. And controversy from Bradford's Liberal-Democrat David | :57:43. | :57:48. | |
Ward. One Holocaust Memorial Day, he criticised Israel's treatment of | :57:48. | :57:55. | |
Palestinians since the second world war. | :57:55. | :57:59. | |
George Galloway, your reaction to what your father -- a fellow | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
Bradford MP David Ward has been saying. Was the right to criticise | :58:04. | :58:08. | |
Israel on Holocaust memorial day? Absolutely. The problem was the | :58:08. | :58:15. | |
language that he chose the seemed to blame it dos. This was an | :58:15. | :58:25. | |
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elementary school boy a howler. -- Jews. We are not against Jews. | :58:30. | :58:34. | |
Because absurd to blame them for the suffering of the Palestinian | :58:34. | :58:39. | |
people. -- It is absurd. I suspect that it is the disgrace for a | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
rather than the howler, because David Ward, like all Liberal- | :58:43. | :58:50. | |
Democrat MPs is staring unemployment himself -- steering | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
and implement himself down the barrel of the next election. -- | :58:54. | :59:04. | |
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unemployment. He has got a meeting with the Lib Dems tomorrow. Alec | :59:06. | :59:11. | |
Shelbrooke, was he right to say what he did? I think it is | :59:11. | :59:15. | |
outrageous. Holocaust Memorial Day is a day when we remember where | :59:15. | :59:19. | |
intolerance Leeds. To twist it and talk about a Jewish people rather | :59:19. | :59:25. | |
than the state of Israel, as George says, was wrong. I'm a supporter of | :59:25. | :59:33. | |
this state of Israel but I would like to think IMF club -- critical | :59:33. | :59:43. | |
supporter. There are things to be done. To be gone someone's religion | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
and make those comparisons, I'm afraid I find it totally | :59:46. | :59:53. | |
unacceptable. Karl Turner, EU referendum, depending on who you | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
talk to and the Labour Party on a different day, you get a different | :59:57. | :00:02. | |
answer. What is your belief? policy on this is consistent. | :00:02. | :00:06. | |
October 2011, I went through the division lobby with the Prime | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
Minister and Ed Miliband, the late -- the leader of my party, saying | :00:09. | :00:17. | |
we didn't want their referendum on the EU. The Prime Minister's | :00:17. | :00:27. | |
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position is all over the place. The Tory MPs care more about getting | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
rid of David Cameron than they do about getting out of the year. His | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
position is completely inconsistent. But is bad timing, what we need is | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
a certainty in the economy. Unemployment in my area is going up. | :00:42. | :00:48. | |
We need for certainty and we need investors to be confident that we | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
have got absolutely consistent position. We have got a consistent | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
position now. We know we're going to say to the British people at | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
this moment in time, it is not the right time to say it in out, we're | :01:03. | :01:11. | |
going to renegotiate the position. Then we will say to the British | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
people, do you want to stay in under this new relationship or do | :01:14. | :01:20. | |
you want out? What about you, George Galloway? Would you like to | :01:20. | :01:26. | |
see a new EU referendum? Bring It On. The people of this country have | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
rejected, as have most people in EU countries, rejected the kind of | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
European Union that we currently have. It is the European Union of | :01:36. | :01:44. | |
bankers and fat cats in the EU Commission. In Brussels, a totally | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
dysfunctional European Parliament, all of it costing billions at a | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
time when that money could be far better spent. We are in favour of | :01:51. | :01:57. | |
an EU referendum and the sooner the better. So you will be campaigning | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
alongside right-wing Tories? No, we will campaign foreign owned | :02:02. | :02:11. | |
independent position which is internationalist. -- for a our own. | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
You said, Bradford spring is here to stay because you're going to | :02:15. | :02:23. |