03/03/2013 Sunday Politics Yorkshire and Lincolnshire

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East for Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, East for Yorkshire and Lincolnshire,

East for Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, calls for the government to look

calls for the government to look calls for the government to look

again at the so-called bedroom tax again at the so-called bedroom tax

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Hello. Coming up today call on why a Hello. Coming up today call on why a

Conservative-run council is calling Conservative-run council is calling

Conservative-run council is calling Conservative-run council is calling

on the government to look again at on the government to look again at

on the government to look again at the so-called red from tax.

the so-called red from tax. the so-called red from tax.

the so-called red from tax. Plus we will find out why some

Plus we will find out why some Plus we will find out why some

doctors are unhappy with changes to doctors are unhappy with changes to

doctors are unhappy with changes to the way sexual health services are

the way sexual health services are the way sexual health services are

provided. Our guests today are David provided. Our guests today are David

provided. Our guests today are David Bradford

Ward, the Liberal Democrat MP for Ward, the Liberal Democrat MP for

Bradford East. Alec Shelbrooke. And Bradford East. Alec Shelbrooke. And

Bradford East. Alec Shelbrooke. And Dan Jarvis. How well the by-election

Dan Jarvis. How well the by-election Dan Jarvis. How well the by-election

result affect the next general result affect the next general

result affect the next general result affect the next general

election? I have no idea, to be election? I have no idea, to be

election? I have no idea, to be election? I have no idea, to be

honest. It was obviously a very good honest. It was obviously a very good

honest. It was obviously a very good honest. It was obviously a very good

result but I think we are in the result but I think we are in the

result but I think we are in the midst of a change in British

midst of a change in British midst of a change in British

political history with the coalition political history with the coalition

political history with the coalition government. Anyone who can tell me

government. Anyone who can tell me government. Anyone who can tell me

government. Anyone who can tell me what is going to happen a couple of

what is going to happen a couple of what is going to happen a couple of

what is going to happen a couple of years time, I think they don't know

years time, I think they don't know years time, I think they don't know

years time, I think they don't know what they are talking about. We are

what they are talking about. We are what they are talking about. We are

what they are talking about. We are in a state of flux. The electorate

in a state of flux. The electorate in a state of flux. The electorate

are trying to understand coalition are trying to understand coalition

are trying to understand coalition government and how it works. There

government and how it works. There government and how it works. There

government and how it works. There is a real danger for you, Alec

is a real danger for you, Alec is a real danger for you, Alec

Shelbrooke, that UKIP could eat into Shelbrooke, that UKIP could eat into

Shelbrooke, that UKIP could eat into Shelbrooke, that UKIP could eat into

your boat. I think that is not a your boat. I think that is not a

your boat. I think that is not a problem. I don't have a concern

problem. I don't have a concern problem. I don't have a concern

about the UKIP threat to the about the UKIP threat to the

about the UKIP threat to the Conservative party. I don't think

Conservative party. I don't think Conservative party. I don't think

the threat is specifically directed the threat is specifically directed

the threat is specifically directed the threat is specifically directed

at us. Your boat has collapsed in at us. Your boat has collapsed in

at us. Your boat has collapsed in the South. Our boat actually

the South. Our boat actually the South. Our boat actually

the South. Our boat actually increased. We all need to be mindful

increased. We all need to be mindful increased. We all need to be mindful

increased. We all need to be mindful increased. We all need to be mindful

of the fact that UK are -- you kept of the fact that UK are -- you kept

of the fact that UK are -- you kept of the fact that UK are -- you kept

our vehicle for people who want to our vehicle for people who want to

our vehicle for people who want to our vehicle for people who want to

make a protest vote. The Tories have make a protest vote. The Tories have

make a protest vote. The Tories have make a protest vote. The Tories have

come out and that is a crisis for come out and that is a crisis for

come out and that is a crisis for come out and that is a crisis for

come out and that is a crisis for them. Let us move on to one of the

them. Let us move on to one of the them. Let us move on to one of the

big political talking points. From big political talking points. From

big political talking points. From next month, many social housing

next month, many social housing next month, many social housing

tenants will face cuts to the tenants will face cuts to the

tenants will face cuts to the tenants will face cuts to the

benefits if they have more than one benefits if they have more than one

benefits if they have more than one spare room. The so-called bedroom

spare room. The so-called bedroom spare room. The so-called bedroom

spare room. The so-called bedroom tax was designed to deal with the

tax was designed to deal with the tax was designed to deal with the

problem of under occupancy. There problem of under occupancy. There

problem of under occupancy. There has been widespread opposition is to

has been widespread opposition is to has been widespread opposition is to

the plans, including complaints from the plans, including complaints from

a Conservative-run Yorkshire Council.

Council. Council.

Council. This is my spare bedroom. For the

This is my spare bedroom. For the This is my spare bedroom. For the

moment, it is cluttered up. Like moment, it is cluttered up. Like

moment, it is cluttered up. Like many council tenants who rely on

many council tenants who rely on many council tenants who rely on

benefits, Adrian Hel and Patricia benefits, Adrian Hel and Patricia

benefits, Adrian Hel and Patricia Miller are facing the prospect of

Miller are facing the prospect of Miller are facing the prospect of

Miller are facing the prospect of paying more for their own home.

paying more for their own home. paying more for their own home.

paying more for their own home. struggle now and I think it is

struggle now and I think it is unfair what this coalition

unfair what this coalition unfair what this coalition

unfair what this coalition government is doing to people out of

government is doing to people out of government is doing to people out of

government is doing to people out of work. Why do you need a spare room?

work. Why do you need a spare room? work. Why do you need a spare room?

I have a condition which keeps I have a condition which keeps

I have a condition which keeps I have a condition which keeps

myself awake at night so sometimes I myself awake at night so sometimes I

myself awake at night so sometimes I myself awake at night so sometimes I

have to sleep in the spare room. have to sleep in the spare room.

have to sleep in the spare room. This unemployed chef says he will

This unemployed chef says he will This unemployed chef says he will

This unemployed chef says he will This unemployed chef says he will

have to pay �11 extra a week for his have to pay �11 extra a week for his

have to pay �11 extra a week for his have to pay �11 extra a week for his

spare room. You are single man near spare room. You are single man near

spare room. You are single man near spare room. You are single man near

Rome. Why do you need a spare Rome. Why do you need a spare

Rome. Why do you need a spare bedroom? There is nothing else

bedroom? There is nothing else bedroom? There is nothing else

around. I have tried looking and around. I have tried looking and

around. I have tried looking and have gone private renting but the

have gone private renting but the have gone private renting but the

council don't have anything. Why council don't have anything. Why

council don't have anything. Why council don't have anything. Why

don't you take in a lodger? Cause don't you take in a lodger? Cause

don't you take in a lodger? Cause don't you take in a lodger? Cause

you do not know who you're taking you do not know who you're taking

you do not know who you're taking you do not know who you're taking

in. How do you know you're not going in. How do you know you're not going

in. How do you know you're not going in. How do you know you're not going

in. How do you know you're not going to go to bed and get a knife in your

to go to bed and get a knife in your to go to bed and get a knife in your

to go to bed and get a knife in your back? It is a reduction in housing

back? It is a reduction in housing back? It is a reduction in housing

back? It is a reduction in housing benefit for people of working age so

benefit for people of working age so benefit for people of working age so

if tenants have a spare bedroom, if tenants have a spare bedroom,

if tenants have a spare bedroom, if tenants have a spare bedroom,

they could lose 14% of the housing they could lose 14% of the housing

they could lose 14% of the housing they could lose 14% of the housing

benefit. If they have to or more benefit. If they have to or more

benefit. If they have to or more spare bedrooms, they could lose 25%.

spare bedrooms, they could lose 25%. spare bedrooms, they could lose 25%.

spare bedrooms, they could lose 25%. The policy was defended by the Prime

The policy was defended by the Prime The policy was defended by the Prime

Minister. There are 250,000 families Minister. There are 250,000 families

who live in overcrowded who live in overcrowded

accommodation. There are thousands accommodation. There are thousands

accommodation. There are thousands of people living and unoccupied

of people living and unoccupied of people living and unoccupied

homes. There are lots of people homes. There are lots of people

homes. There are lots of people looking for a council house that

looking for a council house that looking for a council house that

looking for a council house that cannot get one. Of course we need to

cannot get one. Of course we need to cannot get one. Of course we need to

cannot get one. Of course we need to build more social homes but, in the

build more social homes but, in the build more social homes but, in the

meantime, we must do everything we meantime, we must do everything we

meantime, we must do everything we meantime, we must do everything we

can to make sure that the homes we can to make sure that the homes we

can to make sure that the homes we can to make sure that the homes we

have been used in the most fair and have been used in the most fair and

efficient way. But one efficient way. But one

Conservative-run council is not Conservative-run council is not

Conservative-run council is not Conservative-run council is not

pleased by the proposals. I spoke to pleased by the proposals. I spoke to

pleased by the proposals. I spoke to the portfolio holder for the East

the portfolio holder for the East the portfolio holder for the East

Riding area of Yorkshire. In the Riding area of Yorkshire. In the

Riding area of Yorkshire. In the Riding area of Yorkshire. In the

words of my grandad, if the theory words of my grandad, if the theory

words of my grandad, if the theory doesn't work in practice, the

doesn't work in practice, the doesn't work in practice, the

doesn't work in practice, the tedious wrong. My own take on it is

tedious wrong. My own take on it is tedious wrong. My own take on it is

that it hasn't been thought through that it hasn't been thought through

that it hasn't been thought through that it hasn't been thought through

very well and there are going to be very well and there are going to be

some quite difficult unintended some quite difficult unintended

some quite difficult unintended consequences for residents of East

consequences for residents of East consequences for residents of East

riding. -- East Trading. It is riding. -- East Trading. It is

riding. -- East Trading. It is horrible and it stinks. The

horrible and it stinks. The coalition government should come

coalition government should come coalition government should come

coalition government should come over this side of the track and live

over this side of the track and live over this side of the track and live

over this side of the track and live on our money and see what they feel

on our money and see what they feel on our money and see what they feel

on our money and see what they feel like and then they will know what it

like and then they will know what it like and then they will know what it

like and then they will know what it is like then. You can rent your

is like then. You can rent your is like then. You can rent your

remote but why should you? remote but why should you?

remote but why should you? government says its measures to deal

government says its measures to deal government says its measures to deal

with under occupancy are fair but with under occupancy are fair but

with under occupancy are fair but the political debate shows no sign

the political debate shows no sign the political debate shows no sign

of being put to bed. of being put to bed.

of being put to bed. We have an Conservative-run council

We have an Conservative-run council We have an Conservative-run council

here who are against the policy. here who are against the policy.

here who are against the policy. here who are against the policy.

What does that say about the policy? What does that say about the policy?

What does that say about the policy? What does that say about the policy?

There is a very serious issue, as There is a very serious issue, as

There is a very serious issue, as outlined by the Prime Minister, so

outlined by the Prime Minister, so outlined by the Prime Minister, so

there are serious consequences. We there are serious consequences. We

there are serious consequences. We are trying to deal with these

are trying to deal with these unforeseen circumstances. Do you

unforeseen circumstances. Do you unforeseen circumstances. Do you

still support the bedroom tax? still support the bedroom tax?

still support the bedroom tax? still support the bedroom tax?

are trying to do with the problem of are trying to do with the problem of

people in overcrowded accommodation. people in overcrowded accommodation.

people in overcrowded accommodation. people in overcrowded accommodation.

people in overcrowded accommodation. It is not a tax on bedrooms, it is a

It is not a tax on bedrooms, it is a It is not a tax on bedrooms, it is a

benefit reduction. The reason we are benefit reduction. The reason we are

benefit reduction. The reason we are benefit reduction. The reason we are

doing that is to get over occupied doing that is to get over occupied

families into under occupied families into under occupied

families into under occupied families into under occupied

premises. How do you deal with the premises. How do you deal with the

premises. How do you deal with the problem of over occupation? We have

problem of over occupation? We have problem of over occupation? We have

just heard the Conservative say that just heard the Conservative say that

just heard the Conservative say that this policy has not been thought

this policy has not been thought this policy has not been thought

through. Many of the people being through. Many of the people being

through. Many of the people being penalised by this are disabled and

penalised by this are disabled and penalised by this are disabled and

it will also affect grandparents who it will also affect grandparents who

it will also affect grandparents who care for grandchildren and other

care for grandchildren and other care for grandchildren and other

families with serving members of the families with serving members of the

families with serving members of the families with serving members of the

Armed Forces. I do not think this is Armed Forces. I do not think this is

Armed Forces. I do not think this is about making tough choices, it is

about making tough choices, it is about making tough choices, it is

about making the wrong choice. about making the wrong choice.

about making the wrong choice. about making the wrong choice.

you vote for the bedroom tax? you vote for the bedroom tax?

you vote for the bedroom tax? you vote for the bedroom tax?

did not. There is a different -- did not. There is a different --

did not. There is a different -- difference between a unit of

difference between a unit of difference between a unit of

accommodation and you're home -- accommodation and you're home --

accommodation and you're home -- your home. There is such a

your home. There is such a your home. There is such a

difference from area to area in difference from area to area in

difference from area to area in terms of unemployment, people on

terms of unemployment, people on benefits and the accommodation

benefits and the accommodation benefits and the accommodation

available, it should be down to available, it should be down to

available, it should be down to local discretion and phased-in over

local discretion and phased-in over local discretion and phased-in over

time, alongside a programme of time, alongside a programme of

time, alongside a programme of social housing building. How do you

social housing building. How do you social housing building. How do you

support this being brought in by support this being brought in by

support this being brought in by your coalition government? I don't,

your coalition government? I don't, your coalition government? I don't,

your coalition government? I don't, as you have just heard. You cannot

as you have just heard. You cannot as you have just heard. You cannot

introduce the policy this quickly introduce the policy this quickly

introduce the policy this quickly without it being -- without there

without it being -- without there being really poor repercussions.

being really poor repercussions. being really poor repercussions.

Many would say the millionaires are Many would say the millionaires are

Many would say the millionaires are Many would say the millionaires are

getting a tax cut and this is really getting a tax cut and this is really

getting a tax cut and this is really getting a tax cut and this is really

hard to justify. I think it comes hard to justify. I think it comes

hard to justify. I think it comes hard to justify. I think it comes

back to doing what space -- doing back to doing what space -- doing

back to doing what space -- doing back to doing what space -- doing

what's best for it these families in what's best for it these families in

what's best for it these families in overcrowded properties. Why is there

overcrowded properties. Why is there overcrowded properties. Why is there

no money to build social housing? no money to build social housing?

no money to build social housing? Because the receipts kept from the

Because the receipts kept from the Because the receipts kept from the

council house sales were kept by council house sales were kept by

council house sales were kept by Gordon Brown. Of course we need

Gordon Brown. Of course we need Gordon Brown. Of course we need

welfare that is compassionate but it welfare that is compassionate but it

welfare that is compassionate but it welfare that is compassionate but it

will not be lost on millions of will not be lost on millions of

will not be lost on millions of will not be lost on millions of

people that these changes come in at people that these changes come in at

people that these changes come in at precisely the time when the

precisely the time when the precisely the time when the

coalition government are giving a coalition government are giving a

coalition government are giving a coalition government are giving a

tax cuts to some of the wealthiest tax cuts to some of the wealthiest

tax cuts to some of the wealthiest tax cuts to some of the wealthiest

people in the country. The truth is people in the country. The truth is

people in the country. The truth is people in the country. The truth is

that the best form of reform to that the best form of reform to

that the best form of reform to that the best form of reform to

welfare is to get people into work welfare is to get people into work

welfare is to get people into work welfare is to get people into work

which is why we said that the which is why we said that the

which is why we said that the government should offer a compulsory

government should offer a compulsory government should offer a compulsory

government should offer a compulsory job guarantee to get people who have

job guarantee to get people who have job guarantee to get people who have

job guarantee to get people who have been out of work for a long time

been out of work for a long time been out of work for a long time

been out of work for a long time back into work. This point has been

back into work. This point has been back into work. This point has been

made by the opposition on several made by the opposition on several

made by the opposition on several occasions. Would you not agree then

occasions. Would you not agree then occasions. Would you not agree then

occasions. Would you not agree then that it was wrong of the Labour

that it was wrong of the Labour that it was wrong of the Labour

Party to vote against limiting child Party to vote against limiting child

Party to vote against limiting child benefits? The money saved the could

benefits? The money saved the could benefits? The money saved the could

also go to contributing towards also go to contributing towards

also go to contributing towards also go to contributing towards

this. Of course we have got to pay this. Of course we have got to pay

this. Of course we have got to pay this. Of course we have got to pay

down the deficit and we have got to down the deficit and we have got to

down the deficit and we have got to down the deficit and we have got to

look very carefully at the money the look very carefully at the money the

look very carefully at the money the state pays out, and I completely

state pays out, and I completely state pays out, and I completely

understand why people on higher understand why people on higher

understand why people on higher incomes should not be receiving the

incomes should not be receiving the incomes should not be receiving the

kind of benefits that are universal, kind of benefits that are universal,

kind of benefits that are universal, kind of benefits that are universal,

at the truth of the matter is, what at the truth of the matter is, what

at the truth of the matter is, what at the truth of the matter is, what

people will be screaming at the TV, people will be screaming at the TV,

people will be screaming at the TV, people will be screaming at the TV,

is that we need policies in place is that we need policies in place

is that we need policies in place is that we need policies in place

that will help people get back to that will help people get back to

that will help people get back to that will help people get back to

work. Do you think it is a good work. Do you think it is a good

work. Do you think it is a good thing that's there should be a

thing that's there should be a thing that's there should be a

compulsory job guarantee scheme that compulsory job guarantee scheme that

compulsory job guarantee scheme that compulsory job guarantee scheme that

would offer a job to people have would offer a job to people have

would offer a job to people have would offer a job to people have

been out of work for a long period been out of work for a long period

been out of work for a long period been out of work for a long period

of time? This is a red herring of time? This is a red herring

of time? This is a red herring because we have a social housing

because we have a social housing because we have a social housing

because we have a social housing problem in this country and have had

problem in this country and have had problem in this country and have had

problem in this country and have had so for many years. But she cannot do

so for many years. But she cannot do so for many years. But she cannot do

it overnight. And she cannot make it overnight. And she cannot make

it overnight. And she cannot make those who are currently on

those who are currently on those who are currently on

disability or low income, you cannot disability or low income, you cannot

disability or low income, you cannot disability or low income, you cannot

make them pay for the adjustment in make them pay for the adjustment in

make them pay for the adjustment in the social housing market. A change

the social housing market. A change the social housing market. A change

the social housing market. A change of topic now. Doctors say they are

of topic now. Doctors say they are of topic now. Doctors say they are

concerned about the future of sexual concerned about the future of sexual

concerned about the future of sexual health in Yorkshire. Testing is

health in Yorkshire. Testing is health in Yorkshire. Testing is

currently the responsibility of the currently the responsibility of the

currently the responsibility of the currently the responsibility of the

NHS but will switch to councils who NHS but will switch to councils who

NHS but will switch to councils who can use private companies to run

can use private companies to run can use private companies to run

tests and run campaigns. This is tests and run campaigns. This is

tests and run campaigns. This is happening as Leeds is named as

happening as Leeds is named as happening as Leeds is named as

having one of the highest having one of the highest

prevalences of HIV. prevalences of HIV.

prevalences of HIV. Adam was diagnosed with HIV did

Adam was diagnosed with HIV did Adam was diagnosed with HIV did

Adam was diagnosed with HIV did years ago. When he found out, he was

years ago. When he found out, he was years ago. When he found out, he was

frightened and unsure about his frightened and unsure about his

frightened and unsure about his future, wrongly assuring he didn't

future, wrongly assuring he didn't future, wrongly assuring he didn't

future, wrongly assuring he didn't have a lot -- long to live.

have a lot -- long to live. have a lot -- long to live.

actually thought that HIV equalled actually thought that HIV equalled

actually thought that HIV equalled aids equalled death. I thought my

aids equalled death. I thought my aids equalled death. I thought my

life expectancy was going to be life expectancy was going to be

life expectancy was going to be life expectancy was going to be

about five years. I had no knowledge about five years. I had no knowledge

about five years. I had no knowledge of HIV whatsoever. Adam is on

of HIV whatsoever. Adam is on of HIV whatsoever. Adam is on

medication and leads a completely medication and leads a completely

medication and leads a completely medication and leads a completely

normal life but he didn't want to normal life but he didn't want to

normal life but he didn't want to appear on camera because of the

appear on camera because of the appear on camera because of the

stigma which still surrounds HIV. He stigma which still surrounds HIV. He

stigma which still surrounds HIV. He stigma which still surrounds HIV. He

has been really happy with the care has been really happy with the care

has been really happy with the care he has received from the sexual

he has received from the sexual he has received from the sexual

health clinic in Leeds but big health clinic in Leeds but big

health clinic in Leeds but big changes are afoot, which were good

changes are afoot, which were good changes are afoot, which were good

changes are afoot, which were good impact on the service as a whole.

impact on the service as a whole. impact on the service as a whole.

Sexual health services will no Sexual health services will no

Sexual health services will no longer be the responsibility of the

longer be the responsibility of the longer be the responsibility of the

longer be the responsibility of the NHS and, instead, will be run by

NHS and, instead, will be run by NHS and, instead, will be run by

local authorities who will put the local authorities who will put the

local authorities who will put the service out to tender. Tests on

service out to tender. Tests on service out to tender. Tests on

things like gonorrhoea and chlamydia things like gonorrhoea and chlamydia

things like gonorrhoea and chlamydia could soon be done by private

could soon be done by private companies. Commissioning health

companies. Commissioning health companies. Commissioning health

services is a bit different to services is a bit different to

services is a bit different to commissioning things like the bends.

commissioning things like the bends. commissioning things like the bends.

commissioning things like the bends. There is much more harm that can be

There is much more harm that can be There is much more harm that can be

There is much more harm that can be done if you get it wrong. Many

done if you get it wrong. Many done if you get it wrong. Many

doctors feel that the current doctors feel that the current

holistic approach, whereby sexual holistic approach, whereby sexual

holistic approach, whereby sexual health and HIV services are closely

health and HIV services are closely linked, should continue. Sexual

linked, should continue. Sexual linked, should continue. Sexual

health services and HIV have always health services and HIV have always

been commissioned separately but been commissioned separately but

been commissioned separately but there has been a much closer

there has been a much closer relationship between the two

relationship between the two relationship between the two

commissioners. They have both been commissioners. They have both been

commissioners. They have both been commissioners. They have both been

in the NHS and have worked closely in the NHS and have worked closely

in the NHS and have worked closely together. Now the difference between

together. Now the difference between together. Now the difference between

the commissioners is much wider the commissioners is much wider

the commissioners is much wider apart. We have got local government,

apart. We have got local government, apart. We have got local government,

apart. We have got local government, apart. We have got local government,

which is not part of the NHS. which is not part of the NHS.

which is not part of the NHS. especially important in Leeds as the

especially important in Leeds as the especially important in Leeds as the

especially important in Leeds as the city has just been defined as an HIV

city has just been defined as an HIV city has just been defined as an HIV

hotspots. Three times as many people hotspots. Three times as many people

hotspots. Three times as many people hotspots. Three times as many people

have tested positive in Leeds as in have tested positive in Leeds as in

have tested positive in Leeds as in surrounding areas. It is the first

surrounding areas. It is the first surrounding areas. It is the first

surrounding areas. It is the first region where one in 500 people are

region where one in 500 people are region where one in 500 people are

region where one in 500 people are infected. Experts say it was only a

infected. Experts say it was only a infected. Experts say it was only a

infected. Experts say it was only a matter of time until Leeds caught up

matter of time until Leeds caught up matter of time until Leeds caught up

with other cities. The challenge now with other cities. The challenge now

with other cities. The challenge now with other cities. The challenge now

is to make sure that the situation is to make sure that the situation

is to make sure that the situation is to make sure that the situation

is managed by whoever takes over the is managed by whoever takes over the

is managed by whoever takes over the service. Any statement about the new

service. Any statement about the new service. Any statement about the new

some people believe this is a some people believe this is a

some people believe this is a some people believe this is a

wake-up call for the NHS and it is wake-up call for the NHS and it is

wake-up call for the NHS and it is about delivering the best value for

about delivering the best value for about delivering the best value for

the taxpayer, while others feel it the taxpayer, while others feel it

the taxpayer, while others feel it is privatisation by the backdoor and

is privatisation by the backdoor and is privatisation by the backdoor and

will lead to before patients. will lead to before patients.

will lead to before patients. The Department for health couldn't

The Department for health couldn't The Department for health couldn't

The Department for health couldn't put anyone up for an interview but

put anyone up for an interview but put anyone up for an interview but

Dan Jarvis, are you happy with the Dan Jarvis, are you happy with the

Dan Jarvis, are you happy with the way these changes are being provided

way these changes are being provided way these changes are being provided

is? I think the context is is? I think the context is

is? I think the context is concerning. We have waited 22 months

concerning. We have waited 22 months concerning. We have waited 22 months

concerning. We have waited 22 months for the policy and in that time

for the policy and in that time for the policy and in that time

there have been many abortions and there have been many abortions and

there have been many abortions and people contracting sexual nurses. I

people contracting sexual nurses. I people contracting sexual nurses. I

think people will be concerned about think people will be concerned about

think people will be concerned about the increasing influence of the

the increasing influence of the the increasing influence of the

the increasing influence of the private sector. The people I talk to

private sector. The people I talk to private sector. The people I talk to

are very concerned about the are very concerned about the

are very concerned about the increasing influence and role of the

increasing influence and role of the increasing influence and role of the

increasing influence and role of the market. I think we got it wrong

market. I think we got it wrong market. I think we got it wrong

market. I think we got it wrong towards the end of our time in

towards the end of our time in towards the end of our time in

government and people are really government and people are really

government and people are really concerned that the NHS is about

concerned that the NHS is about delivering front-line care for

delivering front-line care for delivering front-line care for

patients and should never be about patients and should never be about

patients and should never be about delivering profit. Is this the right

delivering profit. Is this the right delivering profit. Is this the right

time to shift services to the time to shift services to the

time to shift services to the private sector? The timing isn't

private sector? The timing isn't private sector? The timing isn't

great? Leeds city council will have great? Leeds city council will have

great? Leeds city council will have the ultimate power to decide where

the ultimate power to decide where the ultimate power to decide where

the ultimate power to decide where it needs to focus its Resorts is. --

it needs to focus its Resorts is. -- it needs to focus its Resorts is. --

its resources. Whether they are in its resources. Whether they are in

its resources. Whether they are in areas of Leeds, in different housing

areas of Leeds, in different housing areas of Leeds, in different housing

communities, I don't know. But communities, I don't know. But

communities, I don't know. But communities, I don't know. But

surely it has got to be better for surely it has got to be better for

surely it has got to be better for the Council providing the services

the Council providing the services the Council providing the services

the Council providing the services to say, we have to focus resources

to say, we have to focus resources to say, we have to focus resources

to say, we have to focus resources here. I kid you not, the private

here. I kid you not, the private here. I kid you not, the private

company on Teeside is called virgin company on Teeside is called virgin

company on Teeside is called virgin health. But people are still very

health. But people are still very concerned about these services.

concerned about these services. concerned about these services.

Private healthcare has always been Private healthcare has always been

Private healthcare has always been Private healthcare has always been

Private healthcare has always been the for ever and aid a in the health

the for ever and aid a in the health the for ever and aid a in the health

the for ever and aid a in the health service. We are in a state of flux.

service. We are in a state of flux. service. We are in a state of flux.

service. We are in a state of flux. One of the good things is that the

One of the good things is that the One of the good things is that the

board and the local democratic board and the local democratic

board and the local democratic involvement have helped to define

involvement have helped to define involvement have helped to define

involvement have helped to define local needs. That is get a roundup

local needs. That is get a roundup of the local news.

of the local news. of the local news.

Demonstrations on the streets of Demonstrations on the streets of

Demonstrations on the streets of Demonstrations on the streets of

Hall as the city council cuts 600 Hall as the city council cuts 600

Hall as the city council cuts 600 Hall as the city council cuts 600

jobs and to fight the government by jobs and to fight the government by

jobs and to fight the government by putting up local taxes by almost

putting up local taxes by almost putting up local taxes by almost

2%. As austerity working?The city 2%. As austerity working?The city

2%. As austerity working?The city 2%. As austerity working?The city

is dying on its feet. A similar is dying on its feet. A similar

is dying on its feet. A similar story in other councils. These

story in other councils. These story in other councils. These

story in other councils. These protests in York went on until the

night. night.

night. night.

It is back to school for a Liberal It is back to school for a Liberal

It is back to school for a Liberal Democrat MP David Ward. Nick Clegg

Democrat MP David Ward. Nick Clegg Democrat MP David Ward. Nick Clegg

Democrat MP David Ward. Nick Clegg the mandate he took lessons on when

the mandate he took lessons on when the mandate he took lessons on when

the mandate he took lessons on when the mandate he took lessons on when

to use the word Jew. He has had to to use the word Jew. He has had to

to use the word Jew. He has had to to use the word Jew. He has had to

apologise for his use of the phrase Jewish atrocities.

Jewish atrocities. Jewish atrocities.

Apologies to four civil servants Apologies to four civil servants

Apologies to four civil servants planning the High Speed train

planning the High Speed train service who mistakenly informed

service who mistakenly informed service who mistakenly informed

residents of this building that they residents of this building that they

residents of this building that they would have to vacate the premises.

would have to vacate the premises. would have to vacate the premises.

David Ward, the Liberal Democrat David Ward, the Liberal Democrat

David Ward, the Liberal Democrat friends of Israel say they should

friends of Israel say they should friends of Israel say they should

face further discipline over your face further discipline over your

face further discipline over your comments. I have fought racial

comments. I have fought racial comments. I have fought racial

comments. I have fought racial prejudice and is racism for over 30

prejudice and is racism for over 30 prejudice and is racism for over 30

prejudice and is racism for over 30 years and will continue to do that.

years and will continue to do that. years and will continue to do that.

I will speak out for executed I will speak out for executed

I will speak out for executed minorities wherever they may be.

minorities wherever they may be. minorities wherever they may be.

That includes, in this context, in That includes, in this context, in

That includes, in this context, in Palestine. So you have no regrets?

Palestine. So you have no regrets? Palestine. So you have no regrets?

If the language offends people then If the language offends people then

If the language offends people then If the language offends people then

I have to think about that but I I have to think about that but I

I have to think about that but I have apologised for using the words

have apologised for using the words have apologised for using the words

have apologised for using the words that offended people and am ready to

that offended people and am ready to that offended people and am ready to

that offended people and am ready to move back to the central issue of

move back to the central issue of move back to the central issue of

the behaviour of the Israeli the behaviour of the Israeli

the behaviour of the Israeli government and its treatment of the

government and its treatment of the Palestinian people. George Galloway

Palestinian people. George Galloway Palestinian people. George Galloway

Palestinian people. George Galloway said this was a shameless attempt to

said this was a shameless attempt to said this was a shameless attempt to

said this was a shameless attempt to woo the Muslim vote. I was attacked

woo the Muslim vote. I was attacked woo the Muslim vote. I was attacked

this week for shamefully attempting this week for shamefully attempting

this week for shamefully attempting this week for shamefully attempting

to woo the seat vote. I represent my to woo the seat vote. I represent my

to woo the seat vote. I represent my constituents and the concerns they

constituents and the concerns they constituents and the concerns they

constituents and the concerns they constituents and the concerns they

bring to me. If it is a big issue bring to me. If it is a big issue

bring to me. If it is a big issue bring to me. If it is a big issue

for my constituents, it is a big for my constituents, it is a big

for my constituents, it is a big for my constituents, it is a big

issue for me and I have nothing to issue for me and I have nothing to

issue for me and I have nothing to issue for me and I have nothing to

apologise for on that score. I do apologise for on that score. I do

apologise for on that score. I do think David was completely wrong to

think David was completely wrong to think David was completely wrong to

think David was completely wrong to use the language that is used but he

use the language that is used but he use the language that is used but he

use the language that is used but he has apologised and he has moved on.

has apologised and he has moved on. has apologised and he has moved on.

has apologised and he has moved on. He has an issue with the way the

He has an issue with the way the Israeli government handle the

Israeli government handle the Israeli government handle the

Palestinian situation. That is a Palestinian situation. That is a

Palestinian situation. That is a perfectly acceptable concern to hold

perfectly acceptable concern to hold perfectly acceptable concern to hold

perfectly acceptable concern to hold any freedom to say. I was unhappy

any freedom to say. I was unhappy any freedom to say. I was unhappy

any freedom to say. I was unhappy with his use of the word Jew and

with his use of the word Jew and with his use of the word Jew and

with his use of the word Jew and thought it was singling out a single

thought it was singling out a single thought it was singling out a single

thought it was singling out a single race. He has apologised for it and I

race. He has apologised for it and I race. He has apologised for it and I

race. He has apologised for it and I think it is right to move on.

think it is right to move on. think it is right to move on.

will move on. Councils are cutting will move on. Councils are cutting

will move on. Councils are cutting services and cutting jobs. How can

services and cutting jobs. How can services and cutting jobs. How can

Labour complain about that when you Labour complain about that when you

Labour complain about that when you doing that in your own councils?

doing that in your own councils? doing that in your own councils?

Because the reason Labour having to Because the reason Labour having to

Because the reason Labour having to make these cuts is due to

make these cuts is due to make these cuts is due to

restrictions being placed by the restrictions being placed by the

national government. Local national government. Local

national government. Local authorities are trying to make these

authorities are trying to make these authorities are trying to make these

authorities are trying to make these cuts, not because they want to. This

cuts, not because they want to. This cuts, not because they want to. This

is an incredibly tough time. is an incredibly tough time.

is an incredibly tough time. situation as tough but libraries

situation as tough but libraries situation as tough but libraries

situation as tough but libraries have been shouting in Leeds and I

have been shouting in Leeds and I have been shouting in Leeds and I

think that is wrong. The Labour think that is wrong. The Labour

think that is wrong. The Labour think that is wrong. The Labour

council gave �1000 pay rise to its council gave �1000 pay rise to its

council gave �1000 pay rise to its council gave �1000 pay rise to its

top executives. There is a huge art top executives. There is a huge art

top executives. There is a huge art collection being restored which is

collection being restored which is collection being restored which is

just been kept in a chamber just been kept in a chamber

just been kept in a chamber somewhere. Why are the front line

somewhere. Why are the front line somewhere. Why are the front line

services being hit when a other services being hit when a other

services being hit when a other services being hit when a other

areas that can be dealt with? areas that can be dealt with?

areas that can be dealt with? the Liberal Democrat councils look

the Liberal Democrat councils look the Liberal Democrat councils look

the Liberal Democrat councils look to make cuts in their own towns?

to make cuts in their own towns? to make cuts in their own towns?

to make cuts in their own towns? have been in the possession at up

have been in the possession at up have been in the possession at up

having to make some pretty having to make some pretty

having to make some pretty unpalatable cuts. This is not all

unpalatable cuts. This is not all unpalatable cuts. This is not all

bad news. There are freedoms for bad news. There are freedoms for

bad news. There are freedoms for local councils which give greater

local councils which give greater discretion for local authorities.

discretion for local authorities. discretion for local authorities.

discretion for local authorities. That is good. Thank you all for your