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And in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire: How will voters react to an MP's | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
proposal for a card to stop benefits claimants spending money on alcohol | :01:28. | :01:38. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2064 seconds | :01:38. | :36:02. | |
You were watching the Sunday politics for Yorkshire and | :36:02. | :36:09. | |
Lincolnshire. Coming up today, which you send your child at for heart | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
surgery at Leeds General Infirmary? As the legal wrangle over the unit's | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
future takes a new twist, we speak to the parents who have very | :36:17. | :36:24. | |
different views on the safety of the heart centre. It is a gold standard | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
unit and it has been proven to be sustainable. I think it is critical | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
that something has got to change and the data is a key thing. | :36:33. | :36:39. | |
Plus, find out how voters react to the plans for a welfare card which | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
would stop then if it's claimants spending money on alcohol and | :36:43. | :36:53. | |
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cigarettes. Stewart Andrew, if I can start with | :36:56. | :37:01. | |
you, we know that NHS England is appealing against the High Court | :37:01. | :37:11. | |
ruling which six queues the future -- which would secure the future of | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
the children's heart unit. There is consensus right across the country | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
now with clinicians and all politicians that what we really need | :37:20. | :37:23. | |
is to get to a final decision on where these heart units are going to | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
be. All this is going to do is delay the reporting of the Independent | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
reconfiguration panel's report, which will give the automatic that | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
hunchback alternate decision. -- which will give the ultimate | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
decision. Do you accept the original | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
principles of the review, which found that children's heart surgery | :37:47. | :37:55. | |
is better served by fewer, better dedicated centres? You could say | :37:55. | :38:01. | |
that about any surgery. I remember reading years ago that if you needed | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
cancer surgery then going to the rate hospital with the rate surgeon | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
would increase your chances of survival by about 10%. But can we | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
trust any of the statistics that have been going around for months | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
now. That is the greater problem. This week the Health Secretary | :38:18. | :38:24. | |
defended the decision to temporarily to spend -- suspend children's heart | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
surgery in Leeds. That followed detail which appear to show | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
mortality rates which were more than twice the national average. | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
Operations have no resumed, but some are still questioning patient safety | :38:37. | :38:44. | |
at the unit. Welcome to NHS England's health | :38:44. | :38:54. | |
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quarters -- headquarters in Leeds. The Sager has kept on rolling. This | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
falling out goes back to the safe and sustainable review which found | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
that children's heart operations should be made from Leeds to | :39:11. | :39:13. | |
Newcastle but this decision was found to be unlawful by the High | :39:13. | :39:23. | |
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Court. Data was then presented which was found to be flawed. Surgery was | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
suspended but resumed last week. A decision which was questioned by Sir | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
Roger, who said he would not send his own daughter first surgery at | :39:31. | :39:38. | |
the hospital. Kerry Singleton is from North Yorkshire, her | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
seven-year-old daughter is due for more treatment. She says she does | :39:42. | :39:52. | |
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not need to rely on data, she trusts the doctors at the centre. It comes | :39:52. | :39:58. | |
with the territory. The surgeons are not God. They do a fantastic job. I | :39:58. | :40:05. | |
cannot praise Leeds enough. You have everything under one roof. We have | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
one of the largest population densities outside of London and it | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
is absolutely fantastic. Meanwhile, Michelle from South | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
Yorkshire has serious concerns. She was unhappy with the cure that her | :40:18. | :40:25. | |
daughter received and said that parents need more statistics. | :40:25. | :40:32. | |
data as a key thing. I had no idea how you rent a half ago -- a year | :40:32. | :40:38. | |
and a half ago, that there was data for me to look at, for example about | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
where transplants are done. I did not know that this information was | :40:42. | :40:47. | |
available. Parents have to be given more information, it has to be a | :40:47. | :40:55. | |
clear, transparent process. Where does this leave patient | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
safety? Crucially, for children being treated here now and in the | :40:58. | :41:04. | |
future. A paediatric cardiologist at the | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
unit says that he fears that patient safety could come second to dealing | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
with detail. People in other units, we have had quite a bit of support | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
from them, they tell us things like, you have really been put | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
through the ringer on this one. They seem to be coming at you again and | :41:21. | :41:27. | |
again. They have shown that your service is safe, that your results | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
are no different from anywhere else in the country. And yet they still | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
come at you. It makes people a bit nervous. Is this the future? It does | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
distract from patient care. If you spend a lot of time providing data | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
for a group that is coming into the cat you, that is time that you could | :41:46. | :41:53. | |
be focusing on improving patient care in the hospital. | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
The story has gone right to the top, with Jeremy Hunt backing the | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
decision to bring any concerns for about the unit. You said it was | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
wrong to speak out against the servers publicly. But there are very | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
small children are facing very big operations and the unit is still not | :42:12. | :42:19. | |
certain about its future. The latest twist is NHS England's decision to | :42:19. | :42:25. | |
appeal the decision. What do you say to parents who have | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
lost confidence in children's heart surgery at Leeds General Infirmary? | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
First, I would say that I would completely understand when you see | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
all of this going on in the media, you must have a million questions in | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
your mind. I sympathise with how difficult it must be. When you look | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
at the evidence, they have had a vigorous process over this last | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
fortnight of checks and balances. Eminent surgeons have been there | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
looking at everything that they have been doing, and they have been found | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
to be a safe unit. But it still has the highest mortality rate in the | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
country. The figures are not ready yet. They do not have the highest in | :43:02. | :43:09. | |
the country, there is this funnel of acceptability. But there are other | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
units like older here in Liverpool but also the, and it is because of | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
the tapes of operations that are doing. Because of all of the work | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
that has gone on there, all of the checks and balances, it is deemed to | :43:22. | :43:31. | |
be a safe unit. It is only fear to the parents that the normal house | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
safety unit is that they are sending their children to. | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
Would you take your children first surgery at Leeds with baby safe at | :43:38. | :43:44. | |
Newcastle? I should not add to that question. Those who have done so in | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
the last week or so have been fundamentally wrong in my view. But | :43:47. | :43:57. | |
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we have been talking about the unit being scrutinised. But it does | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
improve things. I did not know that statistics were around, I should be | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
able to locate them and find out how good it is. That what we have. But | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
we have had in the last couple of weeks is something that is wholly | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
wrong, it has left parents hanging in the air. What we need to get to | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
do now is to get back to surgery in the weeds unit nine than to step up | :44:26. | :44:36. | |
from where we are now at the moment -- the Leeds unit. The Leeds unit is | :44:36. | :44:41. | |
safe for people. But at Mid Staffordshire they were chasing | :44:41. | :44:46. | |
targets in compiling data. Patients were neglected and some died under | :44:46. | :44:52. | |
horrible circumstances. I agree entirely with that. Many doctors and | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
nurses are going through the regulation body because of that. But | :44:55. | :45:00. | |
I remember what happened at Bristol. They did not stop the surgery. But | :45:00. | :45:05. | |
they sent someone in to find out what had happened. What you need to | :45:05. | :45:10. | |
do is to work on these things. This erratic situation that we have had, | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
not just in terms of the stopping and starting of surgery, but the | :45:14. | :45:19. | |
potential for the court case to go on and on is not good for the Leeds | :45:19. | :45:26. | |
unit and it is not good for parents. The cardiologist seemed to suggest | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
that surgeons not just in Leeds, but in hospitals around the country, I | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
know going to be much more cautious with your surgery because of the | :45:34. | :45:41. | |
rollover this data. I think that that is inevitably true. I have | :45:41. | :45:44. | |
already had phone calls from surgeons who are getting worried. | :45:44. | :45:50. | |
They do not want to head the data, but they are worried that it will be | :45:50. | :45:56. | |
used responsibly. This data has been incomplete, it has not had checks | :45:56. | :46:01. | |
and balances on it. If one piece of data related to the child, the whole | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
child was taken out of the equation, so of course there will be | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
problems with that. To suspend surgery on the basis of weak | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
information like that is responsible. That is why it needs to | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
be looked at. NHS England is ultimately a government body. He | :46:18. | :46:24. | |
will stand in the next election as a supporter of the current government. | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
If the unit does not stay open, can you still represent your | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
government? This campaign has had no party politics in it whatsoever. It | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
has been cross-party and cross region. This was an independent | :46:37. | :46:43. | |
review that was set up in 2008. What we are seeing is that the | :46:43. | :46:50. | |
recommendations that were made a wrong because we have got all of the | :46:50. | :46:52. | |
children's services under one refuelling Yorkshire and we are | :46:52. | :47:00. | |
newly at the 400 a year. We are going to have to move on to | :47:00. | :47:04. | |
another topic. The political row over the biggest shake-up of welfare | :47:04. | :47:09. | |
this decade continues to gather pace. This month has seen the | :47:09. | :47:12. | |
introduction of a raft of measures designed to change the benefits | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
bill. Some claim that the government should be going further that is to | :47:16. | :47:22. | |
put a serious dent in the dosh that it is doling out. | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
Once a lorry driver, Anthony Daniels had horrific damage to his back at | :47:27. | :47:31. | |
work 12 years ago, so the benefits agency has been paying the rent for | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
his specially adapted family home. But now he says he has to move | :47:35. | :47:42. | |
because under new rules the family has too many bedrooms and must | :47:42. | :47:52. | |
contribute �30 a week, that is 21% of their income. There are for | :47:52. | :47:58. | |
adults, and we have a clearer common two nights a week. Under the new | :47:58. | :48:04. | |
legislation the government says we are entitled to four bedrooms. | :48:04. | :48:09. | |
Anthony has joined those in social housing who say that they now must | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
move into smaller homes to avoid having their benefits cut. The | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
government says that that was part of that strategy to free big homes | :48:16. | :48:24. | |
for larger families. But there is a problem. Housing agencies there are | :48:24. | :48:28. | |
simply not enough properties arranged to allow it to happen. We | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
are prioritising those properties which are becoming empty for those | :48:31. | :48:37. | |
who are seeing, I cannot afford to pay this rent, can you move me? If | :48:37. | :48:41. | |
we had to be housed 300 people ourselves, that would take us 20 or | :48:41. | :48:47. | |
30 years. We could not do it. The housing association here in the | :48:47. | :48:50. | |
centre of Bradford believes that over 20% of its tenants could now | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
find themselves paying rent for the first time even though their incomes | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
have not changed at all. It is already making provision for people | :48:58. | :49:03. | |
who will not be able to pay their rent. It believes that around 8% of | :49:03. | :49:08. | |
those affected will be in that position. | :49:08. | :49:16. | |
Stopping using benefits to pay for spear bedrooms is backed by the SNP. | :49:16. | :49:26. | |
But he says that he wants more restrictions -- backed by this MP. | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
Do you think it is right for a government to restrict what people | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
can spend their benefits on? Yes. I have never smoked and I have worked | :49:33. | :49:41. | |
all of my life and I think lotteries like smoking and drinking, if you | :49:41. | :49:45. | |
can go out to work and pay for that, that is fine. Do you think that | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
would help people have more faith in the welfare state and would actually | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
dispel a lot of the ideas that people have of people losing about | :49:54. | :50:01. | |
on benefits? I am sure it would. cannot dictate how people live on | :50:01. | :50:06. | |
their own on their money. As long as it does not sacrifice other | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
household roles that are important, then you should not control it. | :50:10. | :50:18. | |
It is not government policy to do this, but some say that they are | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
preparing appeals to the European Court of human rights and some of | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
the changes. I do not think it is in danger of | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
becoming government policy any time soon, but is there an argument for | :50:28. | :50:33. | |
limiting what people can spend their welfare money on? Absolutely not. I | :50:33. | :50:35. | |
would be the last person to encourage anyone to spend any money | :50:35. | :50:43. | |
on cigarettes, but we have to get some context into all of this. Alex | :50:43. | :50:48. | |
is off the wall in my view. You have seen the size of him, he did not | :50:48. | :50:56. | |
mention fatty foods. If he ends up with an overweight illness, we will | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
be paying money for him to go into hospital. They ought to watch what | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
he is seeing in these areas. He is saying we should penalise people | :51:04. | :51:08. | |
because they are not at work and our own state benefit. We have had | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
enough of that. We need some reasonable and sensible discussion | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
about this. Wait until Alex sees you in the | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
chamber and house of commons this week, it will be interesting. What | :51:19. | :51:24. | |
do you make of these proposals, that people should have a welfare card to | :51:24. | :51:31. | |
stop them spending money on beer and fags. We have discussed this at | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
length. I can understand where he is coming from but I do not personally | :51:35. | :51:40. | |
support the wall principle. What we need is all sorts of ideas. It is | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
absolutely right that we had this debate. The debate about welfare is | :51:44. | :51:47. | |
long overdue. For too long it has come away from what was originally | :51:47. | :51:56. | |
intended. When it was originally set up, it said that the benefits system | :51:56. | :51:59. | |
should not hinder people in terms of advancement once they get a job. | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
That is why we have brought in the at �26,000, because we need to have | :52:04. | :52:10. | |
an incentive for going to work. For some people the benefit system has | :52:10. | :52:18. | |
meant that they have been trapped on benefits . It is right that we bring | :52:18. | :52:22. | |
in this and it is actually weakly supported. Labour does not support | :52:22. | :52:30. | |
the benefits. What do you say to people in your constituency to see | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
-- who say, why am I working to support those who cannot? They might | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
end up in a situation where they have a severe disability and they | :52:38. | :52:46. | |
cannot work. We look at what has happened with unemployment in this | :52:46. | :52:51. | |
region this week. Another 11,000 people have joined the dole queue. | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
We have the second highest unemployment rate in the UK at the | :52:54. | :53:00. | |
moment. We need to helping people -- we need to help people get into | :53:00. | :53:09. | |
work. But the opinion polls show that many people do want tough | :53:09. | :53:16. | |
action on this issue. That idea that the Chancellor of the Exchequer | :53:16. | :53:21. | |
hints that what happened in Derby a few months ago is related to the | :53:21. | :53:26. | |
person being on state benefit, I find that distasteful. If we want to | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
have an open debate about people and state benefit, I am happy to do | :53:29. | :53:33. | |
that. It is not that long ago that the former Conservative government | :53:33. | :53:40. | |
was seen to former coalminers in my constituency, take early retirement | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
at the age of 50. They wanted to hate people from unemployment | :53:43. | :53:50. | |
figures. How do you respond to that? We have seen that 1 million extra | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
jobs in the private sector. The Labour Party was saying that we | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
would never be able to create them when we were having to scale back on | :53:58. | :54:04. | |
public sector jobs, but we have managed to do that. We need to also | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
make sure that there is an incentive for people to go out to work. I have | :54:08. | :54:13. | |
many people in my constituency who are on low incomes and easy to me, | :54:13. | :54:19. | |
�26,000, I would love to be able to take that home with me and your from | :54:19. | :54:25. | |
the work that I do. We have to make it an incentive for people to go to | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
work and reward those people who go to work. The benefit system need to | :54:28. | :54:37. | |
be there -- needs to be there. I have been on benefits myself, I know | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
it is not easy. But if we do not bring in these changes we will have | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
a bigger problem. We take a look at some more of the | :54:45. | :54:55. | |
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week's News now in our 62nd round -- 60 seconds round-up. It is almost | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
30 years since the miners strike, but the anger against Margaret | :54:59. | :55:07. | |
Thatcher has not dimmed. 2000 turned out to celebrate the death of the | :55:07. | :55:12. | |
women they blame for destroying their communities. We have waited a | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
long time for this. Miners born and bred. We will always stick | :55:17. | :55:23. | |
together. But others had an entirely different view. Many travelled from | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
Yorkshire and Lincolnshire to pay their respects in person. | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
certainly have not seen anything better since she finished. I have | :55:32. | :55:37. | |
seen some of my constituents come down to pay their own tribute. | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
Unemployment is up again, figures from least this week show that one | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
in ten people in Yorkshire are out of work, making it the second worst | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
blackspot in the country with youth unemployment and major cause for | :55:48. | :55:58. | |
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concern. It is really difficult, the result of competition out there. | :55:59. | :56:04. | |
What do you make of people burning effigies of Margaret Thatcher in | :56:04. | :56:10. | |
Yorkshire? Is that acceptable? feel that a lot of that has been | :56:10. | :56:16. | |
deluxe tasteful. But I understand where that is coming from -- been | :56:16. | :56:21. | |
distasteful. I represented several coal mining communities and one by | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
one the closed. Little happens between the closures and the | :56:26. | :56:32. | |
bringing in of the new government. She did sky the coal-mining | :56:32. | :56:37. | |
community, I have to say. She was not on her own. I do not blame her | :56:37. | :56:44. | |
for ever thing that happened in 1984 and 1985. Whilst a lot of it is | :56:44. | :56:53. | |
distasteful, you have to take into account what happened when the coal | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
mines closed as something that scarred young people for many years. | :56:57. | :57:02. | |
Companies will look at those scenes and think, why should we invest the? | :57:02. | :57:10. | |
People might be put off. We can invest. There are massive amounts of | :57:10. | :57:16. | |
work now. If it was not for the Labour government is nothing would | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
have happened there. It did not happen for years when the Tories got | :57:19. | :57:28. | |
it. -- got in. People will come here to work if we leave the ground for | :57:28. | :57:32. | |
them to do so. Did you go to Margaret Thatcher 's funeral, did | :57:32. | :57:37. | |
you shed a tear? I did go to her funeral and I did find it | :57:37. | :57:42. | |
emotional, I have no shame in seeing that. Margaret Thatcher was not on | :57:42. | :57:48. | |
her own. More pits closed under Wilson. The miners, I am afraid, | :57:48. | :57:52. | |
work early lead by Arthur Scargill. To blame all a bit on Margaret | :57:52. | :57:58. | |
Thatcher is completely unacceptable. -- to blame all of it on Margaret | :57:58. | :58:04. | |
Thatcher. You could use the crowds from inside cheering and clapping in | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
recognition of one of the greatest Prime Minister is that this country | :58:07. | :58:13. | |
has ever had. Do you think that that was sheared by your constituents in | :58:13. | :58:20. | |
Pudsey? Probably yes. You have a lot to learn from | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
Margaret Thatcher. She won three elections. None of that coalition | :58:24. | :58:33. | |
business around. Here's here. Tony Blair won three elections as well. | :58:33. | :58:36. | |
Hope the state will not be forking out the money that they have done in | :58:36. | :58:41. | |
the last week. Going back to the point, it is distasteful to be | :58:41. | :58:45. |