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One in ten tourists worldwide are Chinese. | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
That number is set to double by 2020. | :00:10. | :00:11. | |
How are Chinese travellers transforming | :00:12. | :00:16. | |
the global tourism industry? Here in Hainan, I am Linda Yueh | :00:17. | :00:18. | |
and we're Talking Business. A warm welcome to the programme. | :00:19. | :00:44. | |
The rapid growth of Chinese tourists is transforming the global industry. | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
We hear from CEOs of global hotel chains, plus the head of China's | :00:50. | :00:56. | |
largest online travel site. And former basketball star Yao Ming | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
tells us what he thinks of sustainable development. | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
But first, I went around Hainan, known as China's Hawaii, to find | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
out how tourism has changed. Braving the crowds. | :01:07. | :01:18. | |
The Hawaii Hainan's beaches are teaming with tourists. | :01:19. | :01:25. | |
Can it last? TRANSLATION: | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
They have been everywhere domestically. | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
So new places, like Dubai, are very popular. | :01:34. | :01:36. | |
They've already been to Hong Kong, Macau, Japan and Korea, so they are | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
interested in new destinations. People from Hainan want to | :01:41. | :01:41. | |
travel internationally. And they have. | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
Nearly 100 million overseas trips were taken | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
by Chinese tourists last year. By 2020, the number | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
of trips is also expected to nearly double, to 200 million per year. | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
They spent more than any other travellers, about $1 billion. | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
And this figure is expected to triple. | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
This explosive growth in tourism has happened quickly. | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
20 years ago, this kind of place would be where | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
you would find Chinese tourists. That is because the government | :02:20. | :02:21. | |
tightly controlled the movement of its people overseas. | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
But now, it's all changed. That means that other countries | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
and their businesses are keen to compete with China to cash in | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
on the tourist dollars. The Chinese like Cambridge, | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
they like Oxford. They are interested in Bath. | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
They are interested in our history. We have to make sure that travel | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
agents can explain that in a compelling and exciting way, | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
particularly because the volumes, we hope, are going to triple by 2020. | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
A Chinese love story, retold in a Broadway style. | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
This is China's attempt to appeal to travellers. | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
But will the fairy tale ending be enough to keep | :03:08. | :03:08. | |
the audience coming back for more? How are the taste is of Chinese | :03:09. | :03:17. | |
tourists changing? And what are | :03:18. | :03:18. | |
their favourite destinations? I caught up with CC Zhuang, the head | :03:19. | :03:33. | |
of cumin, China's largest travel site. Chinese travellers are more | :03:34. | :03:41. | |
interested in going overseas. We see tremendous growth in overseas | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
travel, especially coming from the second`tier cities. The smaller | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
cities, not Beijing or Shanghai, but some of the smaller places? Yes, | :03:54. | :04:01. | |
places like Chengdu. So I think it will be one of the trends over the | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
next few years, particularly the focus in south`east Asia, Australia, | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
Japan and South Korea, which are in a similar time zone. More than | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
Europe or the US? Yes, much more than Europe and the US. They still | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
have much more time lapse, more people flying as a group. It is much | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
less frequent travellers. For a similar time zone, Australia, New | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
Zealand, we see very high growth in independent travellers. They can | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
just book for themselves and just go. Europe predominantly is catering | :04:36. | :04:45. | |
to Chinese rather than international travellers, going to your website. | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
You become the biggest in China already. Are there plans to change | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
the site so you can attract more global visitors? Global visitors is | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
certainly one of our long`term targets. But I think in the | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
short`term and mid`term, we are still going to focus on Chinese | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
travellers. I think I can see that the travel technology is undergoing | :05:08. | :05:15. | |
significant disruptive changes. When people talk about travel, it is only | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
about flight booking, hotel booking. But that is only part of the travel | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
experience. That is a reservation before the trip. You can do that | :05:24. | :05:30. | |
with a PC, only before you get in the taxi and go to the airport. At | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
the terminals, the Company can no longer engage you. At the mobile | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
penetration, you will be able to contact consumers through the life | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
cycle of the trip, in terms of taxi calling, grounding, destination | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
services, restaurants, bars, destination theme parks. So, a lot | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
more service, we can provide for consumers. If you look at it this | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
way, imagine, ten years down the road, every person travelling is | :06:02. | :06:07. | |
somebody wanting to execute this experience. We have wisdom, mobile, | :06:08. | :06:15. | |
we know where the consumers eating, what he is doing, what his schedule | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
is. The conditions change, the weather changes, you know, a special | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
event happens, we can inform consumers through mobile | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
applications. If there is some payment, they can always go through | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
our payment centre in China. We can do all of the customer protection | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
for them. It's an exciting world. Imagine, you are helping millions of | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
Chinese people learn and unfamiliar land. They are doing some itinerary | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
arrangement to enjoy the time. So, I think there are some evenings we can | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
do for Chinese users. For the next ten years, we are going to focus in | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
China to help consumers to really enjoy their travels overseas, and | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
domestic. A little bit more about your business, you founded the | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
company, but you decided to sell majority stake to the big Chinese | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
search engine. Talk me through that, getting a shareholder, going public, | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
those kinds of things that you have done, that you are thinking about. | :07:21. | :07:29. | |
From a personal point of view, you're going to grow up, at a | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
certain point you go to face some competition. If you are facing some | :07:34. | :07:42. | |
very strong competitors, you're going to get some thing called a | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
prisoner's dilemma. If you are in a prisoner's dilemma, the best ways to | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
find out how to get out. Just a simple competition is no longer help | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
for each party. I think with a battle situation, travel is such a | :07:57. | :08:06. | |
large category, the battle is done, China is interested. They have been | :08:07. | :08:15. | |
in the market aggressively. As a smaller company, we are about five | :08:16. | :08:24. | |
or eight years behind Baidu. I think we have to figure out a strategy to | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
get out of the prisoner's dilemma and try to maximise the future. It | :08:31. | :08:39. | |
turned out to be a good strategy. As of today, we are the leading travel | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
search engine in China. Moving forward, I think we can do more | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
things with our partners. Finally, what is the single biggest | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
requirement for Chinese tourists is going overseas? Food. Food, | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
restaurants. Chinese? Chinese, particularly. Not Chinese food, that | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
you have to provide at least half Chinese food. I noticed there are | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
some restaurants trending in the Western world. It's called | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
half`half. They have some Chinese food and some local food. The | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
Chinese stomach is probably the most stubborn thing in the world. I think | :09:23. | :09:30. | |
travel providers have to refine their recipes. That was CC Zhuang. | :09:31. | :09:37. | |
For Chinese tourists, visas are a perennial issue, particularly when | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
travelling to the US and Europe. But the chief executive of Hilton Hotels | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
says the industry is pushing for change. You look at the US as a | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
great example. Just a year ago, a little over a year ago, the average | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
wait time was 60`90 days to get a visa. I don't know about you, but | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
it's a long time. It costs you thousands of dollars in off`air, you | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
have to stay in a hotel just to get a visa, then you have to wait 90 | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
days, if you are lucky enough, you get one. Most people are going to | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
say, I'll try another option, that's just too hard. We worked hard with | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
the US State Department to increase staffing at consulates in China. As | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
a result, over the last year or two, the wait times are now under one | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
week. So, what do you see? A huge increase in Chinese travellers. Our | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
hotels alone, last year, we saw over a 50% increase in Chinese travel | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
just because of the wait times. There is more to do there. The | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
demand is increasing. 100 million is going to 200 million. We have to | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
continue, not just in the US but in Europe and other destinations around | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
the world, we have to continue to be smart about the use of technology | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
for issuing a visas, increasing the number of consulates, increasing | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
staffing levels to continue to meet demand. But I think we are making | :11:04. | :11:10. | |
terrific progress. How our global hotel is responding to the growth of | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
Chinese tourists is? And what are the changes mean for China's | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
domestic market? I caught up with the chief executive of | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
Intercontinental Hotels, to find out how they are catering to Chinese | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
taste is. In some ways, tourists and people that stay in hotels want the | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
same things. The basics of safety, security and consistency. That is | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
one of the reasons why you are seeing the global brands, not just | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
us, but the global brands taking a bigger share of the market. So, | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
there is a bit about giving good hospitality services. I think with | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
the Chinese, it is a relatively new phenomenon, as the middle`class | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
rose. They are quite particular about some things they want when | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
they travel. We have a China Ready programme. Being the biggest global | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
operator in China, we are very well placed for Chinese customers who | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
know our brand. A lot of them feel they want their local brands, they | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
want Chinese food, they want to be treated appropriately. Mandarin | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
speakers, some of those basics. It's not that dissimilar to many other | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
travellers. I think it's about the fast growth and making sure that you | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
are delivering and experience to the brand they are used to in the | :12:31. | :12:37. | |
country they come from. China, internal tourism has grown a great | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
deal. It How do has. You think it has changed and will change? The | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
outbound is it a big number, the internal numbers are enormous. | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
Again, what we find, interestingly, is that, particularly the growing | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
middle`classes, they absolutely want that consistency of this | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
international brand. We have 200 hotels in China. 200 in the | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
pipeline. Second biggest market... After the US? We have been here 30 | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
years now. We launched a new Chinese brand which is understanding that | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
there those international qualities are important and consistency is | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
important. Chinese people want Chinese food and a Chinese | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
experience. It's more than localised brands, it's about downstanding what | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
the consumer wants. There is this always impression that global brands | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
do very well in China, including yours, against a Chinese`owned | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
managed hotels? If you look at consumers. We did a a survey. We | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
called our trends report in January, consumers who we spoke to around the | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
world, China, UK, Germany, India, US, they want definitely want the | :13:52. | :13:58. | |
security of this global brand. It stands for a trust, a trust mark. | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
They want localisation as well. They want a brand that is global, local | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
toll their market. The food is appropriate, setting is appropriate. | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
They want the personal touch, which is not about the right flavour of M | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
M's or apples in your room, it's about feeling personal. Which is why | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
this need we saw through our research of what Chinese customers | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
want led to the launch of the brand. It's about incite into the | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
customers. Some want local global brands, many don't. I think you have | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
to listen to your consumer as a global organisation. One of the | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
things about China many things about China, of course, one of the things | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
about China for global businesses is that it's a very difficult market. | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
How have you found it? You have been in China for so long, in terms of | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
competing in that market? Is regulation, changes in terms of | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
policies? I mean, it is difficult, but I think as a global business our | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
whole business model is partnership. We have 4,700 hotels our main brand, | :15:06. | :15:19. | |
we own seven out of 4,700. It's about partnership. We choose | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
carefully who we work with. Work with the right local partners who | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
own the market. In China, yes, it's a different system. The government | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
has been very clear. Travel and tourism is one of the five pillars | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
of economic growth. They have put resources, put finance behind it. | :15:36. | :15:38. | |
They encouraged it. They recognise you cannot grow an economy, you | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
can't urbanise an economy without that. That has been helpful to our | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
industry. Government has been clear about what it wants. We have gone | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
along with that. What do you see is the fastest growing market for | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
tourism in the world? For tourism? Our business, if you look globally, | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
half business, half tourism in that sense. So there is no question I | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
think probably China is right up there. Both business and tourism? | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
Both business and tourism. The China outbound into other parts of Asia is | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
very big. Also, look at the Maldives now, it has become a China | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
destination, which it wasn't before. It's understanding the travel flows | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
and those needs. China is at the heart now of our business and will | :16:22. | :16:27. | |
be for many years to come I think. That was Richard Solomans. How have | :16:28. | :16:34. | |
holidays changed for Yao Ming and his family? Since retiring from the | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
MBA he has joined a body advising the Chinese government and still | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
commands millions of dollars worth of endorsement deals. I had a chance | :16:45. | :16:53. | |
to sit down with a Chinese star. The last 15, 20 years China become a | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
rising power. People become richer than before. After that, you know, | :17:00. | :17:08. | |
including me, want to see the world. The world, everywhere on this | :17:09. | :17:16. | |
planet. I heard recently the number is somewhere around 100 million | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
people cross the border from China last year to visit another country, | :17:22. | :17:31. | |
another area as a tourist. I think it becomes a culture in China. I | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
remember when I was young, when holiday came we would say ` let's | :17:37. | :17:43. | |
visit another uncle's family, let's visit another family members family | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
and visit our cousins. Now, it's, which city is our next stop. That is | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
how it has changed for Chinese It's a people. Change, I think, that has | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
been fairly recent, isn't it? Because people think of, sort of, | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
the fast growth in China, I think that when you are living here and | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
you see the middle`class develop, I think the pace of change is really | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
quite extraordinary? Talking of the middle`class, like you say, that is | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
a major power for any country. Any country. The number, the numbers are | :18:19. | :18:26. | |
very big, particularly in China, 1.3 billion population here. The | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
middle`class can be one billion, one day. What kind of a business | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
opportunity can create off and also can bring the benefit to all those | :18:39. | :18:47. | |
tourism cities such as here or maybe around ice Asia or even in the | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
world. I think that's a very bright future. I wanted to ask you a little | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
bit about sports men and women in China who are becoming global | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
figures in tennis, in track and field, of course, you know, you are | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
the famous son. How has that changed? Do you expect more Chinese | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
athletes to become global figures? Let me explain a little bit. In the | :19:13. | :19:28. | |
past, some sports stars have been heroes for us. I remember the names | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
when they won Gold for Team China we were all very excited about it. We | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
almost like worshipped them right there. I mean, but back to old days, | :19:41. | :19:57. | |
I must say (inaudible) they will be labelled as a national hero. They | :19:58. | :20:05. | |
are living a very sportsman, they are living in a small box of a life, | :20:06. | :20:12. | |
training, training and living in a small area. Their folks are there. | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
They are very little to touch outside. Today I would say our | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
generation is more has had more character. I'm sorry, I should not | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
use that word "character." Personalities. Our talking and our | :20:31. | :20:53. | |
acting is more like ourself. Not because we change, we have more | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
flexibility to do what we like. What do we like to do. What we like to | :20:58. | :21:03. | |
say. I believe that path will never change. Speaking of the country, do | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
you have concerns about China, as it changes so rapidly and dramatically? | :21:10. | :21:17. | |
Yes, I worry. Like you said, I'm worrying about that, but I'm glad to | :21:18. | :21:32. | |
see that kind of topic is on a panel, or the national meetings, | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
they all have an agenda, a topic about how can we (inaudible) country | :21:40. | :21:49. | |
sustainable. We cannot build anything we want everywhere. We have | :21:50. | :21:58. | |
to think about 50 years from now. 1 00 years from now. It's taking time, | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
but I'm glad that already people are but I'm glad that already people are | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
already starting to think about it. That was Yao Ming, like his family | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
millions of Chinese travel abroad. For an industry it means adapting to | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
Chinese tastes, particularly the need for Chinese food. But it also | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
raises challenges for China to keep tourism dollars at home. That is all | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
we have time for. Check out our website and me on Twitter. Join us | :22:29. | :22:37. | |
next time for more Talking Business with me, Linda Yueh. | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
Good evening. Most of us saw rain at some stage during the day. Some of | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
that rain was quite heavy and thundery. That band of rain will | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
clear away from the far north of the United Kingdom, leaving behind a lot | :22:54. | :22:55. | |
of dry weather. There | :22:56. | :22:57. |