07/06/2014 Talking Business with Linda Yueh


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One in ten tourists worldwide are Chinese.

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That number is set to double by 2020.

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How are Chinese travellers transforming

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the global tourism industry? Here in Hainan, I am Linda Yueh

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and we're Talking Business. A warm welcome to the programme.

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The rapid growth of Chinese tourists is transforming the global industry.

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We hear from CEOs of global hotel chains, plus the head of China's

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largest online travel site. And former basketball star Yao Ming

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tells us what he thinks of sustainable development.

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But first, I went around Hainan, known as China's Hawaii, to find

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out how tourism has changed. Braving the crowds.

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The Hawaii Hainan's beaches are teaming with tourists.

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Can it last? TRANSLATION:

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They have been everywhere domestically.

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So new places, like Dubai, are very popular.

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They've already been to Hong Kong, Macau, Japan and Korea, so they are

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interested in new destinations. People from Hainan want to

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travel internationally. And they have.

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Nearly 100 million overseas trips were taken

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by Chinese tourists last year. By 2020, the number

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of trips is also expected to nearly double, to 200 million per year.

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They spent more than any other travellers, about $1 billion.

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And this figure is expected to triple.

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This explosive growth in tourism has happened quickly.

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20 years ago, this kind of place would be where

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you would find Chinese tourists. That is because the government

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tightly controlled the movement of its people overseas.

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But now, it's all changed. That means that other countries

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and their businesses are keen to compete with China to cash in

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on the tourist dollars. The Chinese like Cambridge,

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they like Oxford. They are interested in Bath.

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They are interested in our history. We have to make sure that travel

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agents can explain that in a compelling and exciting way,

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particularly because the volumes, we hope, are going to triple by 2020.

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A Chinese love story, retold in a Broadway style.

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This is China's attempt to appeal to travellers.

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But will the fairy tale ending be enough to keep

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the audience coming back for more? How are the taste is of Chinese

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tourists changing? And what are

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their favourite destinations? I caught up with CC Zhuang, the head

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of cumin, China's largest travel site. Chinese travellers are more

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interested in going overseas. We see tremendous growth in overseas

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travel, especially coming from the second`tier cities. The smaller

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cities, not Beijing or Shanghai, but some of the smaller places? Yes,

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places like Chengdu. So I think it will be one of the trends over the

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next few years, particularly the focus in south`east Asia, Australia,

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Japan and South Korea, which are in a similar time zone. More than

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Europe or the US? Yes, much more than Europe and the US. They still

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have much more time lapse, more people flying as a group. It is much

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less frequent travellers. For a similar time zone, Australia, New

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Zealand, we see very high growth in independent travellers. They can

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just book for themselves and just go. Europe predominantly is catering

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to Chinese rather than international travellers, going to your website.

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You become the biggest in China already. Are there plans to change

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the site so you can attract more global visitors? Global visitors is

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certainly one of our long`term targets. But I think in the

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short`term and mid`term, we are still going to focus on Chinese

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travellers. I think I can see that the travel technology is undergoing

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significant disruptive changes. When people talk about travel, it is only

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about flight booking, hotel booking. But that is only part of the travel

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experience. That is a reservation before the trip. You can do that

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with a PC, only before you get in the taxi and go to the airport. At

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the terminals, the Company can no longer engage you. At the mobile

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penetration, you will be able to contact consumers through the life

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cycle of the trip, in terms of taxi calling, grounding, destination

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services, restaurants, bars, destination theme parks. So, a lot

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more service, we can provide for consumers. If you look at it this

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way, imagine, ten years down the road, every person travelling is

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somebody wanting to execute this experience. We have wisdom, mobile,

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we know where the consumers eating, what he is doing, what his schedule

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is. The conditions change, the weather changes, you know, a special

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event happens, we can inform consumers through mobile

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applications. If there is some payment, they can always go through

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our payment centre in China. We can do all of the customer protection

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for them. It's an exciting world. Imagine, you are helping millions of

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Chinese people learn and unfamiliar land. They are doing some itinerary

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arrangement to enjoy the time. So, I think there are some evenings we can

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do for Chinese users. For the next ten years, we are going to focus in

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China to help consumers to really enjoy their travels overseas, and

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domestic. A little bit more about your business, you founded the

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company, but you decided to sell majority stake to the big Chinese

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search engine. Talk me through that, getting a shareholder, going public,

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those kinds of things that you have done, that you are thinking about.

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From a personal point of view, you're going to grow up, at a

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certain point you go to face some competition. If you are facing some

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very strong competitors, you're going to get some thing called a

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prisoner's dilemma. If you are in a prisoner's dilemma, the best ways to

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find out how to get out. Just a simple competition is no longer help

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for each party. I think with a battle situation, travel is such a

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large category, the battle is done, China is interested. They have been

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in the market aggressively. As a smaller company, we are about five

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or eight years behind Baidu. I think we have to figure out a strategy to

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get out of the prisoner's dilemma and try to maximise the future. It

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turned out to be a good strategy. As of today, we are the leading travel

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search engine in China. Moving forward, I think we can do more

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things with our partners. Finally, what is the single biggest

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requirement for Chinese tourists is going overseas? Food. Food,

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restaurants. Chinese? Chinese, particularly. Not Chinese food, that

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you have to provide at least half Chinese food. I noticed there are

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some restaurants trending in the Western world. It's called

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half`half. They have some Chinese food and some local food. The

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Chinese stomach is probably the most stubborn thing in the world. I think

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travel providers have to refine their recipes. That was CC Zhuang.

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For Chinese tourists, visas are a perennial issue, particularly when

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travelling to the US and Europe. But the chief executive of Hilton Hotels

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says the industry is pushing for change. You look at the US as a

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great example. Just a year ago, a little over a year ago, the average

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wait time was 60`90 days to get a visa. I don't know about you, but

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it's a long time. It costs you thousands of dollars in off`air, you

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have to stay in a hotel just to get a visa, then you have to wait 90

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days, if you are lucky enough, you get one. Most people are going to

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say, I'll try another option, that's just too hard. We worked hard with

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the US State Department to increase staffing at consulates in China. As

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a result, over the last year or two, the wait times are now under one

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week. So, what do you see? A huge increase in Chinese travellers. Our

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hotels alone, last year, we saw over a 50% increase in Chinese travel

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just because of the wait times. There is more to do there. The

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demand is increasing. 100 million is going to 200 million. We have to

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continue, not just in the US but in Europe and other destinations around

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the world, we have to continue to be smart about the use of technology

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for issuing a visas, increasing the number of consulates, increasing

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staffing levels to continue to meet demand. But I think we are making

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terrific progress. How our global hotel is responding to the growth of

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Chinese tourists is? And what are the changes mean for China's

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domestic market? I caught up with the chief executive of

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Intercontinental Hotels, to find out how they are catering to Chinese

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taste is. In some ways, tourists and people that stay in hotels want the

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same things. The basics of safety, security and consistency. That is

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one of the reasons why you are seeing the global brands, not just

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us, but the global brands taking a bigger share of the market. So,

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there is a bit about giving good hospitality services. I think with

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the Chinese, it is a relatively new phenomenon, as the middle`class

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rose. They are quite particular about some things they want when

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they travel. We have a China Ready programme. Being the biggest global

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operator in China, we are very well placed for Chinese customers who

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know our brand. A lot of them feel they want their local brands, they

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want Chinese food, they want to be treated appropriately. Mandarin

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speakers, some of those basics. It's not that dissimilar to many other

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travellers. I think it's about the fast growth and making sure that you

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are delivering and experience to the brand they are used to in the

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country they come from. China, internal tourism has grown a great

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deal. It How do has. You think it has changed and will change? The

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outbound is it a big number, the internal numbers are enormous.

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Again, what we find, interestingly, is that, particularly the growing

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middle`classes, they absolutely want that consistency of this

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international brand. We have 200 hotels in China. 200 in the

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pipeline. Second biggest market... After the US? We have been here 30

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years now. We launched a new Chinese brand which is understanding that

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there those international qualities are important and consistency is

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important. Chinese people want Chinese food and a Chinese

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experience. It's more than localised brands, it's about downstanding what

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the consumer wants. There is this always impression that global brands

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do very well in China, including yours, against a Chinese`owned

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managed hotels? If you look at consumers. We did a a survey. We

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called our trends report in January, consumers who we spoke to around the

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world, China, UK, Germany, India, US, they want definitely want the

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security of this global brand. It stands for a trust, a trust mark.

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They want localisation as well. They want a brand that is global, local

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toll their market. The food is appropriate, setting is appropriate.

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They want the personal touch, which is not about the right flavour of M

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M's or apples in your room, it's about feeling personal. Which is why

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this need we saw through our research of what Chinese customers

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want led to the launch of the brand. It's about incite into the

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customers. Some want local global brands, many don't. I think you have

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to listen to your consumer as a global organisation. One of the

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things about China many things about China, of course, one of the things

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about China for global businesses is that it's a very difficult market.

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How have you found it? You have been in China for so long, in terms of

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competing in that market? Is regulation, changes in terms of

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policies? I mean, it is difficult, but I think as a global business our

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whole business model is partnership. We have 4,700 hotels our main brand,

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we own seven out of 4,700. It's about partnership. We choose

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carefully who we work with. Work with the right local partners who

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own the market. In China, yes, it's a different system. The government

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has been very clear. Travel and tourism is one of the five pillars

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of economic growth. They have put resources, put finance behind it.

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They encouraged it. They recognise you cannot grow an economy, you

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can't urbanise an economy without that. That has been helpful to our

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industry. Government has been clear about what it wants. We have gone

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along with that. What do you see is the fastest growing market for

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tourism in the world? For tourism? Our business, if you look globally,

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half business, half tourism in that sense. So there is no question I

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think probably China is right up there. Both business and tourism?

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Both business and tourism. The China outbound into other parts of Asia is

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very big. Also, look at the Maldives now, it has become a China

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destination, which it wasn't before. It's understanding the travel flows

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and those needs. China is at the heart now of our business and will

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be for many years to come I think. That was Richard Solomans. How have

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holidays changed for Yao Ming and his family? Since retiring from the

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MBA he has joined a body advising the Chinese government and still

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commands millions of dollars worth of endorsement deals. I had a chance

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to sit down with a Chinese star. The last 15, 20 years China become a

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rising power. People become richer than before. After that, you know,

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including me, want to see the world. The world, everywhere on this

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planet. I heard recently the number is somewhere around 100 million

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people cross the border from China last year to visit another country,

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another area as a tourist. I think it becomes a culture in China. I

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remember when I was young, when holiday came we would say ` let's

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visit another uncle's family, let's visit another family members family

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and visit our cousins. Now, it's, which city is our next stop. That is

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how it has changed for Chinese It's a people. Change, I think, that has

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been fairly recent, isn't it? Because people think of, sort of,

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the fast growth in China, I think that when you are living here and

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you see the middle`class develop, I think the pace of change is really

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quite extraordinary? Talking of the middle`class, like you say, that is

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a major power for any country. Any country. The number, the numbers are

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very big, particularly in China, 1.3 billion population here. The

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middle`class can be one billion, one day. What kind of a business

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opportunity can create off and also can bring the benefit to all those

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tourism cities such as here or maybe around ice Asia or even in the

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world. I think that's a very bright future. I wanted to ask you a little

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bit about sports men and women in China who are becoming global

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figures in tennis, in track and field, of course, you know, you are

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the famous son. How has that changed? Do you expect more Chinese

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athletes to become global figures? Let me explain a little bit. In the

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past, some sports stars have been heroes for us. I remember the names

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when they won Gold for Team China we were all very excited about it. We

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almost like worshipped them right there. I mean, but back to old days,

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I must say (inaudible) they will be labelled as a national hero. They

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are living a very sportsman, they are living in a small box of a life,

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training, training and living in a small area. Their folks are there.

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They are very little to touch outside. Today I would say our

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generation is more has had more character. I'm sorry, I should not

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use that word "character." Personalities. Our talking and our

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acting is more like ourself. Not because we change, we have more

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flexibility to do what we like. What do we like to do. What we like to

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say. I believe that path will never change. Speaking of the country, do

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you have concerns about China, as it changes so rapidly and dramatically?

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Yes, I worry. Like you said, I'm worrying about that, but I'm glad to

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see that kind of topic is on a panel, or the national meetings,

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they all have an agenda, a topic about how can we (inaudible) country

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sustainable. We cannot build anything we want everywhere. We have

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to think about 50 years from now. 1 00 years from now. It's taking time,

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but I'm glad that already people are but I'm glad that already people are

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already starting to think about it. That was Yao Ming, like his family

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millions of Chinese travel abroad. For an industry it means adapting to

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Chinese tastes, particularly the need for Chinese food. But it also

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raises challenges for China to keep tourism dollars at home. That is all

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we have time for. Check out our website and me on Twitter. Join us

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next time for more Talking Business with me, Linda Yueh.

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Good evening. Most of us saw rain at some stage during the day. Some of

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that rain was quite heavy and thundery. That band of rain will

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clear away from the far north of the United Kingdom, leaving behind a lot

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of dry weather. There

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