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the Ashes as Australia prepare to chase the five wickets they need to

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reclaim the urn for England. That's in 15 minutes.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead at what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me tonight are the broadcaster David Davies and the

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freelance journalist Samira Shackle. Tomorrow's front pages: The

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Telegraph says that Britons born in the 1950s and 1960s will be the

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first generation be poorer than their parents. It's picture is of

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the Prime Minister in Afghanistan. The Independent leads on the UN's

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appeal for Syria. The express says Britain will be hit

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by powerful storms over Christmas. The Guardian leads on the court

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judgement in America which ruled the mass collection of phone records by

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federal authorities is likely to be unconstitutional. Their front page

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shows Barack Obama with his family at an event in Washington.

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The male leads on the prediction that those entering middle age will

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struggle to match the wealth of their parents.

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The Mirror claims a member of the House of Lords is claiming hundreds

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of pounds for just a few minutes is' work. The Times says that

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vitamin pills are useless. The FT talks about plans for London airport

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expansion. Let's talk about the front page of

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the Telegraph. First of all, the photograph, which is of David

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Cameron with the troops, declaring it is mission accomplished in

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Afghanistan. Samira Shackle, what do you make of that particular comment?

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It strikes me as slightly bonkers to use that phrasing, given that that

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is almost the exact wording that George Bush used notoriously in Iraq

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after about a month and a half, and then couldn't really back down from

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its June the ensuing bloodshed over several years. I feel like Cameron

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is handing his opponents a gift for them to use from now on one of

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anything happens. The question was posed - is it mission accomplished,

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Prime Minister? He said yes, in a manner of speaking. He said it will

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be accomplished. I don't know if they've got some crystal balls in

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Number ten these days but you do wonder. It is a bit of a hostage to

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fortune because there is another 12 months or so to go and as history

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tells us, you only have to have a rudimentary knowledge of Afghanistan

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- and you'll have a great knowledge - and it seems to me that you really

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are a hostage to fortune because anything can happen. I thought it

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was interesting that Cameron was trying to cover himself for that,

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referencing the long troubled history and saying they weren't

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leaving a perfect democracy. I think that is a wild understatement, to

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say it's not going to be perfect. They've already got the threat of

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insurgency threatening the elections in April and I think, also, perhaps

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he didn't use the mission accomplished phrase himself at the

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messages that we've done what we went there to do. It begs the

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question of what the aim was because there are many different names that

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have mutated over time and I'm not sure any of them have really been

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achieved. That's another point - the idea of what the mission was. It

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started out as one thing but may have varied over the period. I was

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thinking that, seeing Michael Owen therewith David Cameron today. But

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all as a power for good and giving some pleasure. -- football as a

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power good. I had the privilege of going to Afghanistan eight week is

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after the Taliban were thrown out, again to reclaim the Olympic Stadium

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in Kabul for sport after the Taliban committed some horrendous atrocities

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which was still very visible, in particular the dressing rooms of

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that stadium. I do think here that you just hope that the wider aims -

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for example, to fight all the battles around opium... And I was

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hearing on your own report here on the BBC News Channel that this opium

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harvest this year is as good and as extensive as it's been four years.

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Let's move on to the other story on the Telegraph, which is Boris's

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vision of an island airport being sunk. This is a reference to what

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Boris Johnson would like to see happen with regards to airport

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expansion in the south-east of England but the suggestion is that

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it's not going to happen. Yes, that's what it seems. I think it's

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quite funny how every thing Boris does has the word Boris in front of

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it - Boris Island. What's next? Boris pavements? We've got

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politicians across the board changing their tune on this. A third

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runway at Heathrow. There was a report due tomorrow that the story

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focuses on, that sort of seems to be the leaders of all the main parties

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moving towards saying that actually maybe a third runway would be fine

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after all. It crosses my mind that somebody is going to have to make a

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decision about this. Someone as eminent as Sir Howard Davies - he

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will recommend something and, knowing him a little bit, he will

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have covered off most angles, which hasn't always been true in a number

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of reports in recent times, one might say. Here we've got something

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where it is a real dilemma for the Conservative Party particularly,

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with constituencies around, marginal constituencies, around Heathrow. You

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talk about Boris - I think his luck is running out a bit and I think the

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Tory party is facing up to... David Cameron appears to me to be at last

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prepared to stand up to Boris and, indeed, his popularity. We'll see.

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An interesting observation before we move on. Let's take another front

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page. This is the Independent. David, the biggest emergency in the

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UN's history. This is a reference to the story we've been featuring

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heavily today about the United Nations appeal for Syria and quite a

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heart-rending photograph. The horrendous reality of Syria today,

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in this season of goodwill, is being widely reported - as it has been by

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you today, as it is by a number of the papers tomorrow. It interesting

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that he is David Miliband, a former Foreign Secretary, saying that this

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is the biggest humanitarian test of the century, a test of the

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international community which it is failing. I was surprised to see all

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that snow around refugee camps and I've seen particularly what is going

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on in Jordan. You have a country like Jordan, which has... People say

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we have a reputation for taking refugees. Jordan, in the Middle

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East, has an even bigger reputation for taking refugees and they are

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being engulfed by this problem. They are, apparently, very unclear how to

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deal with it. Some of the figures are shocking. Three quarters of

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Syria's population of 22 million will need aid to survive next year.

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It's really quite astonishing, the figures involved. Something like a

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10th of the population has fled already and half the population is

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homeless or displaced in some way. I think it's good that this kind of

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appeal is getting wide coverage and you can only hope these sort of

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targets will be met. I think also, though, that it's quite important to

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remember it's not just about the money being raised. It's also a

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question of access. I've spoken to people working for numerous aid

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agencies in Syria and there's a huge frustration that they might be just

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half an hour away from a besieged area where people are starving and

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having to subsist on grass, and they've got food supplies and just

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can't get through because it's too dangerous and they're not being

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granted access by the government or rebels holding the area. Can you

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believe, on top of everything else, they have a polio epidemic as well?

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The weather particularly bad, far worse than normal. The Daily Mail.

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Poorer than your parents, dwindling property prices, if you work born in

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the 1960s or 70s, you will retire poorer than your parents. We have

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heard increasing hints of this. The idea that one generation will always

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be better off than the next, that has come to an end. It is quite

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interesting. The mention of inheritance is interesting in the

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report. The disclaimer that you might be better off than the last

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generation if you have been left a big inheritance, which is kind of

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saying that inequality is getting more entrenched. If you do not have

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money left to you, then you will be worse off. I wonder what it means

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for my generation, the one below that. It does not bode well. Another

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of those stories guaranteed to wind up the generation of my children,

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while making us people, as older people, guilty. A very good front

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page lead. Yes, we are guilty. Right? I have a guilty conscience

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about having enjoyed a life, perhaps. That is what I think when I

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read this stuff. Then your generation, with meagre savings,

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your only hope of a comfortable retirement is a large inheritance.

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From? I thought. This is the situation that we are in. -- from us

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a lot. There are areas of our public life when our system has failed us.

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Successive governments have failed and this is where we end up. The

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Guardian front page. Judge condones NSA for data wall. -- condemns NSA

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for data haul. The idea that what the NSA have done is

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unconstitutional. That is strong language. Arbitrary, Orwellian. It

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is increasingly hard to justify the NSA programme, I think. What jumped

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out for me, the judge said there is not one example of this actually

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helping to stop an imminent terrorist attack. That hit where it

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hurts. It is not taking the civilian liberties argument. It is saying

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that it does not even work, putting that to one side. Where is Mr

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Snowdon? Hiding. You wonder how long he will go on hiding. He is chasing

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a summer Bin Laden for the length of time he has been holed up and you

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start to wonder. -- Osama Bin Laden. Not a good day to justify the mass

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collection of individual phone records. Let's finish with the

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Guardian because of the attractive photograph on the front. The first

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family joins the fun with a National Health Service. We thought it was

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something to do with Obama's Christmas card. But they are at the

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children's national medical centre in Washington. It looks as though

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the good news for President Obama is that Michelle has finally forgiven

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him for the selfie in Johannesburg last week because she looks rather

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pleased with him and he looks very jolly. It is a terrific family

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picture. I love the antics of the children in the front. The one on

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the left is looking in the wrong direction and the one on the right

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is pulling a face. Good job. Thank you both very much indeed. You will

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both be back at 11:30pm for another look at the stories making the news

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tomorrow. Stay with us because at 11 o'clock, David Cameron says the

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troops can come home next year knowing their mission has been

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accomplished. Coming up next, time for Sportsday.

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