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Hello and welcome to our look ahead at what the papers will be bringing


us tomorrow. With me tonight are the broadcaster David Davies and the


freelance journalist Samira Shackle. Tomorrow's front pages: The


Telegraph says that Britons born in the 1950s and 1960s will be the


first generation be poorer than their parents. It's picture is of


the Prime Minister in Afghanistan. The Independent leads on the UN's


appeal for Syria. The express says Britain will be hit


by powerful storms over Christmas. The Guardian leads on the court


judgement in America which ruled the mass collection of phone records by


federal authorities is likely to be unconstitutional. Their front page


shows Barack Obama with his family at an event in Washington.


The male leads on the prediction that those entering middle age will


struggle to match the wealth of their parents.


The Mirror claims a member of the House of Lords is claiming hundreds


of pounds for just a few minutes is' work. The Times says that


vitamin pills are useless. The FT talks about plans for London airport


expansion. Let's talk about the front page of


the Telegraph. First of all, the photograph, which is of David


Cameron with the troops, declaring it is mission accomplished in


Afghanistan. Samira Shackle, what do you make of that particular comment?


It strikes me as slightly bonkers to use that phrasing, given that that


is almost the exact wording that George Bush used notoriously in Iraq


after about a month and a half, and then couldn't really back down from


its June the ensuing bloodshed over several years. I feel like Cameron


is handing his opponents a gift for them to use from now on one of


anything happens. The question was posed - is it mission accomplished,


Prime Minister? He said yes, in a manner of speaking. He said it will


be accomplished. I don't know if they've got some crystal balls in


Number ten these days but you do wonder. It is a bit of a hostage to


fortune because there is another 12 months or so to go and as history


tells us, you only have to have a rudimentary knowledge of Afghanistan


- and you'll have a great knowledge - and it seems to me that you really


are a hostage to fortune because anything can happen. I thought it


was interesting that Cameron was trying to cover himself for that,


referencing the long troubled history and saying they weren't


leaving a perfect democracy. I think that is a wild understatement, to


say it's not going to be perfect. They've already got the threat of


insurgency threatening the elections in April and I think, also, perhaps


he didn't use the mission accomplished phrase himself at the


messages that we've done what we went there to do. It begs the


question of what the aim was because there are many different names that


have mutated over time and I'm not sure any of them have really been


achieved. That's another point - the idea of what the mission was. It


started out as one thing but may have varied over the period. I was


thinking that, seeing Michael Owen therewith David Cameron today. But


all as a power for good and giving some pleasure. -- football as a


power good. I had the privilege of going to Afghanistan eight week is


after the Taliban were thrown out, again to reclaim the Olympic Stadium


in Kabul for sport after the Taliban committed some horrendous atrocities


which was still very visible, in particular the dressing rooms of


that stadium. I do think here that you just hope that the wider aims -


for example, to fight all the battles around opium... And I was


hearing on your own report here on the BBC News Channel that this opium


harvest this year is as good and as extensive as it's been four years.


Let's move on to the other story on the Telegraph, which is Boris's


vision of an island airport being sunk. This is a reference to what


Boris Johnson would like to see happen with regards to airport


expansion in the south-east of England but the suggestion is that


it's not going to happen. Yes, that's what it seems. I think it's


quite funny how every thing Boris does has the word Boris in front of


it - Boris Island. What's next? Boris pavements? We've got


politicians across the board changing their tune on this. A third


runway at Heathrow. There was a report due tomorrow that the story


focuses on, that sort of seems to be the leaders of all the main parties


moving towards saying that actually maybe a third runway would be fine


after all. It crosses my mind that somebody is going to have to make a


decision about this. Someone as eminent as Sir Howard Davies - he


will recommend something and, knowing him a little bit, he will


have covered off most angles, which hasn't always been true in a number


of reports in recent times, one might say. Here we've got something


where it is a real dilemma for the Conservative Party particularly,


with constituencies around, marginal constituencies, around Heathrow. You


talk about Boris - I think his luck is running out a bit and I think the


Tory party is facing up to... David Cameron appears to me to be at last


prepared to stand up to Boris and, indeed, his popularity. We'll see.


An interesting observation before we move on. Let's take another front


page. This is the Independent. David, the biggest emergency in the


UN's history. This is a reference to the story we've been featuring


heavily today about the United Nations appeal for Syria and quite a


heart-rending photograph. The horrendous reality of Syria today,


in this season of goodwill, is being widely reported - as it has been by


you today, as it is by a number of the papers tomorrow. It interesting


that he is David Miliband, a former Foreign Secretary, saying that this


is the biggest humanitarian test of the century, a test of the


international community which it is failing. I was surprised to see all


that snow around refugee camps and I've seen particularly what is going


on in Jordan. You have a country like Jordan, which has... People say


we have a reputation for taking refugees. Jordan, in the Middle


East, has an even bigger reputation for taking refugees and they are


being engulfed by this problem. They are, apparently, very unclear how to


deal with it. Some of the figures are shocking. Three quarters of


Syria's population of 22 million will need aid to survive next year.


It's really quite astonishing, the figures involved. Something like a


10th of the population has fled already and half the population is


homeless or displaced in some way. I think it's good that this kind of


appeal is getting wide coverage and you can only hope these sort of


targets will be met. I think also, though, that it's quite important to


remember it's not just about the money being raised. It's also a


question of access. I've spoken to people working for numerous aid


agencies in Syria and there's a huge frustration that they might be just


half an hour away from a besieged area where people are starving and


having to subsist on grass, and they've got food supplies and just


can't get through because it's too dangerous and they're not being


granted access by the government or rebels holding the area. Can you


believe, on top of everything else, they have a polio epidemic as well?


The weather particularly bad, far worse than normal. The Daily Mail.


Poorer than your parents, dwindling property prices, if you work born in


the 1960s or 70s, you will retire poorer than your parents. We have


heard increasing hints of this. The idea that one generation will always


be better off than the next, that has come to an end. It is quite


interesting. The mention of inheritance is interesting in the


report. The disclaimer that you might be better off than the last


generation if you have been left a big inheritance, which is kind of


saying that inequality is getting more entrenched. If you do not have


money left to you, then you will be worse off. I wonder what it means


for my generation, the one below that. It does not bode well. Another


of those stories guaranteed to wind up the generation of my children,


while making us people, as older people, guilty. A very good front


page lead. Yes, we are guilty. Right? I have a guilty conscience


about having enjoyed a life, perhaps. That is what I think when I


read this stuff. Then your generation, with meagre savings,


your only hope of a comfortable retirement is a large inheritance.


From? I thought. This is the situation that we are in. -- from us


a lot. There are areas of our public life when our system has failed us.


Successive governments have failed and this is where we end up. The


Guardian front page. Judge condones NSA for data wall. -- condemns NSA


for data haul. The idea that what the NSA have done is


unconstitutional. That is strong language. Arbitrary, Orwellian. It


is increasingly hard to justify the NSA programme, I think. What jumped


out for me, the judge said there is not one example of this actually


helping to stop an imminent terrorist attack. That hit where it


hurts. It is not taking the civilian liberties argument. It is saying


that it does not even work, putting that to one side. Where is Mr


Snowdon? Hiding. You wonder how long he will go on hiding. He is chasing


a summer Bin Laden for the length of time he has been holed up and you


start to wonder. -- Osama Bin Laden. Not a good day to justify the mass


collection of individual phone records. Let's finish with the


Guardian because of the attractive photograph on the front. The first


family joins the fun with a National Health Service. We thought it was


something to do with Obama's Christmas card. But they are at the


children's national medical centre in Washington. It looks as though


the good news for President Obama is that Michelle has finally forgiven


him for the selfie in Johannesburg last week because she looks rather


pleased with him and he looks very jolly. It is a terrific family


picture. I love the antics of the children in the front. The one on


the left is looking in the wrong direction and the one on the right


is pulling a face. Good job. Thank you both very much indeed. You will


both be back at 11:30pm for another look at the stories making the news


tomorrow. Stay with us because at 11 o'clock, David Cameron says the


troops can come home next year knowing their mission has been


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