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appearances. All that and much more coming up in Sportsday in 15 minutes | :00:00. | 3:59:59 | |
after The Papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead | :00:00. | :00:17. | |
to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
the former State Department official Colleen Graffy and Kate Devlin, | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
political correspondent at the Herald. Good to have you with us. | :00:23. | :00:29. | |
The Independent reports that David Cameron has threatened to veto the | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
admission of new members to the EU unless they accept controls on their | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
citizens moving to the UK. The Mirror claims Nigella Lawson has | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
reacted furiously to her former aides being cleared of fraud. | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
It's going to be a white Christmas, according to the Daily Express. | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
The Financial Times is calling the festive period a tale of two | :00:48. | :00:49. | |
Christmases, comparing buoyant consumer spending with declining | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
incomes and savings. And the Telegraph's top story is The Met | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
Police Commissioner's decision not to investigate Nigella Lawson's | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
confession to taking class A drugs. The paper questions whether it | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
amounts to a drugs amnesty for the middle class. | :01:05. | :01:12. | |
And the Sun reports on Nigella's funerary after the court case | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
involving her former assistance. -- her funerary. And it is with the | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
Nigella story that we will begin. There are a couple of strands to it | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
in different newspapers. The Mirror says the TV star is furious over a | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
sustained campaign, as her aides are cleared of fraud. It seemed at times | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
that we had a mine ourselves while the case was going on that it was | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
about fraud and it was not my Jell-o was on trial. -- we had to remind | :01:46. | :01:52. | |
ourselves. It was not my Jell-o that was on trial. Absolutely. I think | :01:53. | :02:00. | |
she has not really understood what the British public has thought of | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
the trial. She is saying it was part of a sustained campaign to attack | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
her. I think most people came out of the trial on her side, even the | :02:09. | :02:15. | |
Prime Minister. Much to the annoyance of the judge, having the | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
Prime Minister making any comments while the trial was underway. | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
Americans have a new series coming on ABC that Nigella Lawson is part | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
of, a second series in January. And the view appears to be that they | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
like her and it will be fine. It has been surprising that this was a | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
trial for fraud that turned into a trial on Nigella Lawson. She spent | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
as much time in the witness stand as the sisters. One of the ironies is | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
that the idea of a cross examination on bad character that the judge | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
eventually allowed, he had initially not agreed with, but it was the | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
e-mail from Charles Saatchi that came out that changed his mind. And | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
we later learned that Charles Saatchi never heard of her taking | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
drugs for ten years and did not believe it. It is unfortunate that | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
she ends up the victim. I agree that this is how she will be seen. She | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
lost her sister, her mother, her first husband. I think there is a | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
big sympathy vote for her, and it looks like her marriage to -- it | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
looked like her marriage to Charles Saatchi was brilliant, but it looks | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
like the marriage was not the best and it looks, perhaps out of spite, | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
that he sent this e-mail which allowed her bad character to be | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
introduced. He said he regretted that the e-mail had come to light. | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
Is there not a certain naivete that it would not get nasty? You will | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
throw whatever you need to at a case, if you are being charged with | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
something. This is part of the problem. The criminal justice system | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
is not easy, not simple, not smooth. Even the witnesses, as she was in | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
this case, will find that lots of things that perhaps they do not want | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
to come to light will come to light. It is unfortunate. I am not | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
sure there is any way to make sure, in this kind of case, when it is | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
about fraud and these kind of allegations, that you can not have | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
this kind of thing happen. Also, I doubt Charles Saatchi knew there was | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
section 100 of the criminal Justice act in 2003 that allows for this bad | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
character aspect of the case. I am sure he had no idea of what that | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
would cause. But certainly it seems he regrets it. And it will be | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
interesting, but at the moment the public seems to be rallying around | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
her. She is beautiful, talented, she has been through a lot in her life. | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
Someone wasn't suggesting that one of the things Americans love is | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
transformation, someone who says, yes, I did drugs but I have stopped | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
that and I am clear cut again. Do you think that would go down well in | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
the US? I think it is more, what did she call it, intimate terrorism, | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
something along that line. I think there will be an understanding of | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
being trapped in this marriage that was not fulfilling perhaps to either | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
one of them. That will also be an angle. A final thought on this, she | :05:26. | :05:33. | |
made the point that her children were effectively put on trial. That | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
idea that, hang on, I am not the guilty party, not the person on | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
trial, because the Grillo sisters have been found not guilty. But many | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
people who have been through the court system will feel they have | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
been through the ringer, even though they were only a witness. This was | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
supposed to be a fraud trial. I am sure she did not expect to be on the | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
witness stand. She did not have council to come back with. Some are | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
suggesting that for a section 100 ad behaviour, bad character, rather, | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
that there is a counsel for the witness that is allowed in to cross | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
examine on her behalf. Let's move onto the Telegraph macro. Nigella | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
legacy, drugs amnesty for the middle class. This is after Britain's most | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
senior police man said there would not be an investigation following | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
Nigella Lawson's confession to taking class a drugs. Does it amount | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
to an amnesty for the middle class? Would it be different if you were | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
not beautiful, successful and not known to everybody on TV? I think it | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
absolutely would be different. To be honest, if you were not middle aged | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
as well. If you were a teenager, and perhaps you do not have a job yet, | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
or you are wearing a hardy, these things do tend to influence it. I | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
think there does need to be a much more honest discussion about trucks | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
policy in the UK, about what we want our drugs policy to do. At the | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
moment, to my mind, it is not unlike the Vatican policy on contraception, | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
where something is decreed from the pulpit but the flock is not quite | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
agreeing on most of it. I think a lot of people would not be surprised | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
that a television presenter does drugs, but whether they want them to | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
or not is a different matter. This is also at odds with Sir Bernard | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
Hogan-Howe's normally tough stance on drugs. It will smack of double | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
standards if they are not careful. Much of it has to do with the fact, | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
where is the evidence, what has happened recently, who will testify | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
against her? She has said so herself, but that is not something | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
you prosecute someone on. That would be tough for them. I like the | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
cartoon. This year, I am doing a Nigella Lawson Christmas. Whatever | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
that means. Moving on to the Independent, talking turkey, a | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
seasonal headline but nothing to do with what will be on our tables. It | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
is Cameron's biggest EU gamble yet, the idea that David Cameron will use | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
a bit of a threat, will only allow expansion of the EE you if numbers | :08:25. | :08:32. | |
of people who can migrate from those countries is curbed. -- expansion of | :08:33. | :08:33. | |
the youth. He has to have something in his | :08:34. | :08:44. | |
promised referendum, and in-out referendum on Europe. He needs to | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
show that he has got them to change something. So far, he has not really | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
got anything. This seems to be the kind of thing he is going for. What | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
this seems to be as well, and I do not know if you would agree, is a | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
failure of diplomacy. According to the Independent, there was silence | :09:01. | :09:08. | |
whenever he suggested this. No one came to his aid saying, we will | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
agree. He said quite a similar thing in Lithuania two weeks ago, so it | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
should not come as a surprise. Obviously they are not particularly | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
keen to get behind him at the moment. But the European Union needs | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
to solve this problem somehow. They need to keep this ship on the seas. | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
The problem is that he is going against the foundation of the | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
European Union, free movement of goods, services and people. If you | :09:37. | :09:42. | |
start saying, free movement of some people, some time, that will be | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
difficult to sustain. On the other hand, it looks like Germany, | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
Netherlands and Austria are also saying, we have sympathy with this, | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
and we are potentially online. But how do you do that when it goes | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
against a main principle of the European Union? The potential new | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
members they are talking about, Albania, one of the poorest | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
countries in the region, which is something David Cameron has | :10:10. | :10:11. | |
highlighted, that we should only allow unfettered movement once your | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
economy has reached 75% health of the recipient country. Also, Serbia, | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
Turkey and the Ukraine. Turkey will not be that much of a hard sell, | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
because there has always been disquiet about Turkey joining. The | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
United States is very supportive of Turkey being a member. The US does | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
not have a vote, but it is seen as the linchpin between the Middle East | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
and Europe. That could be an ongoing influence towards the Middle East. I | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
think the rest of the European Union is not so keen on that. In any | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
case, I think the idea of saying that there will be a certain period | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
of time before you can accrue for benefits, other European Union | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
countries do that I am not sure why the UK cannot do that. That would be | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
one aspect. The other is that the economy 's reach a certain standard. | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
Unless they do it with support from other members, and there is radio | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
silence from many, they are open to legal challenge. The EU is a strange | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
organisation. On the one hand, everybody has to agree - on the | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
other hand, well, actually on the same hand, if one person or one | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
leader of one country says he is going to veto something, that really | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
is that. The other leaders may not like what with David Cameron has | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
said but they can't ignore T The other thing is, they might agree but | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
they are staying sigh epted for political reasons. They might be | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
hiding behind the skirts of David Cameron in saying - we agree with | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
this, but politickedically... Let's move on to the FT - Britain's tale | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
of two Christmasses, people have been spending money but incomes and | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
savings going down. Does that sound like people are wracking up debt? A | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
good Christmas for George Osborne, Britain's economy roared into the | :12:08. | :12:10. | |
Christmas holiday on the back of stronger spending and faster growth. | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
Ed Miliband and Balls perhaps will be a little glummer. But I also like | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
the fact of what people are expecting now are sales. So - I | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
couldn't believe going into the shops now, everything has 50% off, | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
60% off. Usually you will have to wait until the new year. You will be | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
kicking yourself if you did your shopping early. Exactly. A different | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
type of spending one, we look for the deals and the other, is foe | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
cousin on children, electronics, headphones, and away from clothing. | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
And people easing off in the last three or four Chris masts and | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
feeling they can be more optimist why about how they can spend. -- | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
Christmases. They are a bit more, not very. And probably right. We saw | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
unemployment figures which suggested unemployment was going down, more | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
people in jobs, you would think that's a good thing but Mark | :13:04. | :13:06. | |
Kearney, the Bank of England governor has suggested if it gets to | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
a certain level, which we are not far off, he might look at interest | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
rates and a lot of people have managed to keep their household | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
economies going because their mortgage has been pretty low for the | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
past couple of years. A lot of people are close to that margin f | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
that starts to go up, even just a little bit, they are starting to not | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
be able to make their monthly payments. Let's lack at the Daily | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
Express - Christmas day, snow is on the way. We know the Express loves a | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
weather story and we like the idea of a white Christmas, or do we? | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
Would you welcome it? I would absolutely love a white Christmas | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
day, as long as it is not a white Christmas Eve or white Boxing Day. I | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
think it's part of the problem with this, the UK infrastructure just | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
grinds to a halt if we have any kind of snow at all. Not something you | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
are going to have to worry B I will be missing that in Santa bar, | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
California, where we have palm trees and walking around with spray snow | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
on windows. I would enjoy a white Christmas. I think the last one was | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
'76. I can't remember that. I should be able to. I think it is beautiful | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
with the snow. I will miss it. We feel jealous you are having to two | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
Santa bar a bra for Christmas. It must be awful. A hardship -- Santa | :14:21. | :14:28. | |
Barbara. We'll have more later on the | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
controversy surround surrounding Nigella Lawson as a witness in a | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
fraud trial. Now coming up it's Sportsday. | :14:42. | :14:53. | |
Welcome to Sportsday. Our headlines: It's crunch time for | :14:54. | :14:54. |