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sailors compete in the sea around Rio for the next Olympics, we have a

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report on the next -- on the state of the water. That is all coming up

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after The Papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are

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Neil Midgley, media writer at the Daily Telegraph, and the

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entrepreneur Scott Fletcher. Thank you very much for coming on a Friday

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night. Friday night in London! The Mail's headline "Champagne Perks

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of NHS Drugs Watchdog NICE". It says the body has spent around ?115,000

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on expenses which have come out of the NHS budget. The paper says these

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splurges are coming at a time when NICE is banning new drugs on the

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grounds that they're too expensive. The Express has a positive headline,

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with the good news that we're all going to live longer. According to

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the Office for National Statistics we're going to live an extra eight

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years. The Independent continues its theme

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of the corruption of Britain with a secret report into how they say the

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criminal justice system has been infiltrated by organised crime

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gangs. The Independent's sister paper the i

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has "The battle begins for the soul of the NHS", pitting Labour and the

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Conservatives against each other as the two parties start to set out

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their stalls ahead of the general election.

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The Telegraph has a picture of the French President's alleged mistress,

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the actress Julie Gayet, in a backless red dress.

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The Times also has a picture of the same French actress with the

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headline "Oui, Mr President" as well as Labour's plan to improve the

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teaching profession. And finally the Guardian leads with

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"Benefits chaos will lead to a new housing crisis".

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Showing no favouritism, we start with the Daily Telegraph. Because

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they have so many good stories on the front, nothing to do with Neal

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being here. First, two new cities in secret Tory plan. The accusation

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that David Cameron suppressed a report calling for thousands of new

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homes. Do we need thousands of new homes? I think we do. We have 10

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million new people in the country over the last few years and rising,

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70 million within the next five years. It is about time we put

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something in place and looked strategically at these things. Also,

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the nature of family units as well. Often people are living single

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leaf. Housing needs have changed. Some proper planning. In business,

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we plan years ahead and government needs to do that and this is an

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opportunity for them to do so. There is something going on between the

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two sides of the coalition. This has been pushed by the Lib Dems in

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government and the Tories are trying to push it to one side. The Lib Dems

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are saying, we are in favour of garden cities, big, sprawling

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suburbs in any other language, and the Tories, already facing electoral

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difficulties in the Home Counties, where these places would be supposed

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to be, where these places would be supposed

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pressure is. Obviously in the Home Counties, in Buckinghamshire in

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particular, on the route, the proposed route of HS2, through the

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Chilterns, the Tories are already facing electoral wobbles up there.

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The idea that they might concrete over another swathe of the

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countryside to build suburbs will probably not go down well with Tory

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voters. But if we have that many people needing homes, we need to

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address it. Immigration is out of control and we have to do something

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about it. You cannot just plonk houses in a place. We have to have

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all of the amenities with it. Absolutely. That is one of the

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issues, which is why you need a plan, and not just to build

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willy-nilly. Schools are under pressure. And hospitals. Airport

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capacity. Another decision the government should take is where we

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will have more airport capacity in the south-east of England. The

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trouble is there are no votes in making these decisions, sensible,

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long-term decisions which cost money. There are no votes in that so

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governments shy away from taking them. The other story, UKIP will

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target Labour seats in the North, says Nigel Farage. The paper quotes

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him as saying the Conservative Party is dying in the North as it has

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failed to connect with ordinary people. You are both from the North

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of England, different sides of the Pennines. Our UKIP going to be the

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party that appeals to the people who do not like the Conservatives? It is

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a stretch to imagine there will be a swathe of whatever colour UKIP has,

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pink or whatever, purple, in the electoral map come 2015. It is

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shocking to me to see how far the Tory party has fallen in the North.

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Being from Manchester, brought up a Labour boy with socialist roots,

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that is definitely how Manchester still feels. But the conversation in

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the pubs now, UKIP are being talked about. Nobody would vote Tory. And

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they appeal to you. Absolutely. My political views are about liberty

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and socialism and try to do the two together but not with massive

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government. I want to control what we are doing for Britain so I am

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against the EU. We talked earlier about the two cities. One of the

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reasons we have to do that is the mass immigration we have got. These

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things have to be talked about sensibly and not the litter size. --

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politicised. Where I was brought up, it was a safe Tory seat and it has

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been a safe Labour seat now ever since the 1997 election. And the

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Tories, what Nigel Farage is right about, is that there does need to be

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a viable alternative for voters in northern cities, other than Labour.

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But when you have a party like UKIP, because they are divisive for

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a lot of people, sometimes there will be strategic voting even

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encouraged by the main parties. When you have the status quo, that

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2-party system, I am 40 years old and the vote on the EU was in 1973.

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When you look at change, it will be divisive in some way, and people

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want change at the moment, is what I am feeling, something different.

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That is what UKIP is bringing. If the mainstream parties take on some

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of their policies, things might change, but until they do, I think

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there is a big cohort of people, particularly in the north, saying,

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who is representing me. The Daily Mail talks about the champagne perks

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of the NHS trucks body. This is nice macro, which decides which drugs we

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get to be treated with, accused of spending thousands of pounds on

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hotels, a John Lewis shopping spree and champagne, racking up credit

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card bills of ?115,000. Not a lot of money in the greater scheme of

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things, but it is the message that it sends. It is the principle. There

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is a ?106 billion budget and we are talking about ?115,000 over two

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years. It is nothing. ?5,000 on luxury hotels over two years is ?200

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a month. One hotel each month. I do not really by the story. We have to

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focus more on what the drugs are costing and why we are not giving

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them to people. Obviously, these are expenses be part -- people are

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incurring, hopefully in the course of their work. Statistic that did

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stand out further down the story is that 137,000 credit cards are issued

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to government employees by the government. I have no idea how they

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manage -- how they manage that. Can you imagine? Who checks the bills?

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As an employee, it is better to have the money on the employer's credit

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card and for them to get it back from you, rather than the other way

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round. In the private sector, you would put it on your own and claim

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it back. That is maybe where the story years. Let's look at the

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Independent. Corruption of Britain. Looking back over ten years to stuff

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that was happening, apparently the infiltration of some of our bigger

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is to Jewish and is by criminals. -- our big institutions. This report is

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ten years old and is only just coming out. This is operation

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Tiberius at Scotland Yard, suspected in 2003 that juries were being

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nobbled by infiltration by organised criminals, that Revenue and

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Customs, here and abroad, the gangs were getting their own people to be

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employed by HMRC, and therefore, obviously, turning a blind eye or

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whatever to the criminal scams that were going on. The question that it

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raises, which is why it is on the front page, is how much of this is

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still going on today, and is there another report on a desk at Scotland

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Yard now? A difficult week for some of the organisations implicated in

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this. In plebgate we've got going on today, yes. As a man in the street

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looking at this sort of story, the institutions that you grow up

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trusting, certainly in the past ten years, we don't trust them any more.

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This is just another story that undermines that trust. It's about

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time that people in public office took it seriously. It smacked to me

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of the storylines of our friends in the north, the BBC drama that was

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set in the 60s. We are going back to the Telegraph and also the time is

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now. They are both looking at the story to do with Francois Hollande,

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the French president, and his alleged affair, spelt very nicely in

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French on the autocue for me in French! With this actress, Julie

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Gayet. The Times shows her giving a very Gallic shrug. Whereas the

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Telegraph, well, she is barely covered up, with a very glamorous

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picture of her, showing a little tattoo on her Derry air. We love the

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stories here, but in France they keep them under wraps until social

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media got hold of it. They've got stronger privacy laws. You look at

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this story and you ask yourself, where is the proof? There's a video

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with a guy with a helmet on. But he hasn't denied it. It's great PR. Is

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it, when you are so low in the polls? Can you imagine if David

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Cameron was photographed on a scooter, mopeds, turning up at his

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mistress's house, alleged mistress, who was as glamorous as this, and

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that his security guard was... Popping out for croissants. It would

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be Greg is, though, wouldn't it? Gregs pasties! Can you really ask

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for the sea when you are the president of France in 2014? We just

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have a very different attitude towards it here. It is fascinating

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because if David Cameron were having an affair, this is all fiction in my

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mind, I think there would be a period interest, certainly from the

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red top papers and the quality papers. I don't think you can expect

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privacy. Even though clearly, this is a private matter. If there is

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going to be a right to privacy, unless he is being a hypocrite by

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preaching family values... He was supposed to be Mr clean, Mr normal.

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He's just doing a terrible job, that's the bottom line. Let's look

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at the Daily Express. Britons are going to live for eight years

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longer. What if you don't want to? And how are we going to afford it?

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Some other headlines are talking about the cost of the NHS, how they

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are going to privatise it and everything else, yet we are going to

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Live 8 years longer and we have no plan to afford the pensions. I will

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have to work until I'm 70 here, doing the papers. I'm looking

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forward to being there with you, Martine! We may be underwater then

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anyway. It says Paul Daniels, you are going to like this, but not a

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lot. I don't think he does! That's his home. It looks like a caravan

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stuck on a lake. It's a beautiful home that Paul Daniels and Debbie

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McGee live in. I love the idea of living by the river, but not so much

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these days. I'm lucky that I'm 500 metres up from the nearest river.

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There is another story behind this, is this down to climate change, is

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it not? There's a big debate about that at the moment. And flood

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defences. The cost of those with austerity, we have two address these

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things. We haven't got any more time to look at the papers for 2014.

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Scott and Neil will be back for a look at some other front pages in

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just over half an hour's time, at 11:30pm. Stay with us here, because

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at 11pm, calls for Andrew Mitchell to return to the Cabinet after a

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police officer admits lying about the plebgate affair. Now it's time

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for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm

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Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes, the headlines this evening. Jessica

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Ennis-Hill says she'll be ready for Brazil, after announcing today she's

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pregnant. Aberdeen beat Hibs in the Scottish Premiership as they bid for

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Europe next season. And sailing

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