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Police and St Lucia are questioning three men about the death of British

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man Roger Pratt, who was killed as he tried to protect his wife from

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attackers on board their yacht. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With us are Tom Chivers

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of the Telegraph and Anne Ashworth. Both of your papers are in the

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stack. Let's start with the front pages. A photo of British man Roger

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Pratt, murdered whilst holidaying with his wife Margaret in St Lucia,

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is on the front page of the Telegraph. The paper also carries a

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special report claims that UK is Lynne is fighting in Syria have been

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trained to return to this country to carry out attacks -- is Lynne is

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this. Chocolate can cut the risk of

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developing diabetes, says the Daily Express. The paper reports that red

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wine, tea and berries also help. Teachers and 130 public schools have

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been implicated in sex crimes against hundreds of children, claims

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the Times. A dramatic picture of violent protests in the Ukrainian

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capital Kiev is on the front page of the Financial Times. The paper also

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reports that David Cameron may be isolating himself in Europe. And the

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Queen is taking a back-seat when it comes to some royal, says the Daily

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Mirror. Prince Charles is stepping in and taking the reins in what is

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seen as a move towards him becoming king. And the Daily Mail runs with

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its main story on a letter from Iain Duncan Smith entries may saying

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Britain's welfare system should not be a magnet for members of other EU

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states. So let's begin, starting with the Guardian. The headliners,

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patient records to be sold from NHS database. This is a single English

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database of medical information that is being created. We're getting

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through the post. I certainly have, information saying, if you want to

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opt out of the ability for this information to be shared more

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widely, that is what you need to do. On the face of it, Tom, this is

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something that might make a lot of people fearful. It may do. People

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are now so constantly aware of threats to privacy from all sorts of

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routes, but this is, to me this seems a pretty straightforwardly

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good thing. I was speaking to some people yesterday, and they feel it

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is absolutely, this will allow huge improvements in how they can share

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and therefore do research. Things that are difficult to do

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old-fashioned, randomised controlled trials, they will be easier to do.

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Things like the link between autism and MMR, the disapproving of that,

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was possible through medical data through this. They just looked at

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the data. Exactly, they looked at the data of people who had been

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treated in the past. It's genuinely saves lives. Of course, there are

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concerns over privacy and it has to be dealt with sensibly. But I think

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this is one of those times when privacy is not a problem. This is a

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way of saving lives. I wonder if anyone doesn't have our data

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already? There are concerns as to who will have access to these

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records. You don't have a choice in who gets the information. You either

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have to say, no, I don't want it to give a note or I do. There is no

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halfway. It does for the first time explained that rather strange letter

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that we got from the NHS. Askin about, reassuring us about the way

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in which our information was being shared. It is a flyer that comes

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through the door explaining the situation, it is not addressed to us

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individually, necessarily. Isn't it the case that a lot of people just

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will not act upon it, either through inertia are not understanding the

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implications? That may well be the case. Presumably those people are

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not overly worried about the NHS having their data. You are now

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beginning to assume that nothing is private any more. That all

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information is being shared. We know from previous editions of the

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Guardian and all of the Snowdon revelations that nothing is secret

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any more. But I just love this word, pseudonymous Asian, which is making

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all of the information anonymous. -- pseudonymisation. This article says

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the extracted information will contain your NHS number, unique to

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the individual, date of birth, postcode, you could probably find

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out who that is. There will be times when data can only be useful when it

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is barely identifiable. In those cases, clinicians will have to make

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stringent cases. -- fairly identifiable. They will have to make

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a case to the regulator. Normally it is not quite as straightforward as

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that. The conspiracy theorists will pounce on this story, but I think we

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all have to conclude that it is essentially for our good. Let's move

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on and look at the Daily Telegraph. Britain sent by Al-Qaeda -- Britons

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sent by Al-Qaeda. Security forces reckon there are about 500 British

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people who have gone to take up arms in Syria. And they will bring back

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with them at some point the skills, if you can college that, the

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know-how of how to stage attacks like 9/11, like the July bombings in

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London. This is a new aspects to the Syrian conflict, this idea that it

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is becoming a training place. This place really have advanced tutorials

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on how to become a terrorist. Late last year, MI5 were talking about

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that being one of the central concerns about Syria. But it was a

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training ground for terrorists who can attack us here. This is putting

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flesh on the bones of those fears. If there are over 500, might they

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have an idea of who the 500 are? You wonder, although how often has that

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worked in the past? It's amazing how much the security services delve

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into our lives and then let people slip through anyway. I think this is

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going to be high on the agenda, at the Geneva II talks. As to exactly

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how Al-Qaeda is allowed, is sending out its emissary is all over the

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world from the Syrian conflict. We know that the Syrian opposition is

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made up of so many factions, and that Al-Qaeda is such a powerful

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part of that, . Only last Friday, two men from Birmingham were

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charged, we reported it year, with travelling to Syria to carry out

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acts of terrorism. The assumption wasn't necessarily that they were

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going to bring that back here, which is a very different thing. It has

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always been what happens for ever with terrorist cells, they go to the

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lawless places in the world. The Yemen, Afghanistan, places on the

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Pakistan border. Syria has exploded, it is now a lawless place where you

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can learn to fight and go and fight and learn these awful skills. It is

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a sobering, serious night in the newspapers. It is the second story

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that causes you to think. Very serious story. Let's stay with the

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Telegraph. Lord Rennard is ready to defy Clegg and rejoin the Lib Dem

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peer 's. This story has been bubbling away for days and will be

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very interesting tomorrow. Nick Clegg wants an apology from Lord

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Rennard. He continues to say he has not done anything wrong. There is

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now beyond reasonable doubt case to be brought against him. -- no

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reasonable doubt case. It is not something that can be actions. --

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actioned legally. Nick Clegg is in a bind with this. Poor Nick Clegg. The

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man keeps getting caught up in what is essentially the minutia of the

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management of his party rather than forming policy. For women for

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example, this is going to put the Lib Dems in quite a poor light. That

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is exactly what Nick Clegg is wanting to avoid. But there doesn't

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seem to be any way out for him. Neither are his peers in the Lords

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giving Nick Clegg and out, I can't understand why. Somebody should be

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finding a graceful exit from the situation. He ends up looking so

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weak. Without worrying about the situation, by crikey, I demand an

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apology. How can you demand an apology from someone who maintains,

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still says I have not done anything wrong. There is no case being

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brought against me. It is not up to the party leader to decide. It is up

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to the peers. It almost looks like a foregone conclusion that it will

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happen tomorrow. The biggest split seems to be between the two sides of

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what is quite a small party. 54 seats. Yet this is beginning to

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overwhelm everything else that we know about the Lib Dems. Let's look

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at the Times. 130 primary -- drive its schools in -- Private schools.

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Implicated in sex crimes against hundreds of children. Can I show you

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the graphic? I don't think we can any more. Where are you? There you

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are, not the women in the low-cut top, it is this. This is very, very

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well-known schools, top schools in the country. Places like Eton

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College and the like. Connected with this decades of abuse. I find

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interesting, one of the reasons why this is all coming to light is that

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people are more willing, it is no more respectable to say this is

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abuse, not the sort of thing we don't talk about. I remember reading

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in Richard Dawkins' biography, something that happened in school.

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Growing up with a stiff upper lip. Your parents are paying handsomely

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for it. Exactly, so you can't complain, but note, this is not all

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right. It is the reputation of the schools that is damaged. They will

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be concerned by this story. Some teachers seem to have been prolific

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abusers allowed to move from job to job, that is the thing that will

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most concerned parents. Let's finish with the Financial Times. Here we

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are. It is more reliable, me holding it up. Cameron at odds with EU

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allies on migration. David Cameron was hoping that Germany and a few

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others would support him on restricting movement around the EU.

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But they think it is a really good idea, so they are not going to. They

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have got an influx of educated Italians, Spaniards, who have

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learned the language and they see it has done wonders for their

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workforce, probably boosted their economy. Cameron had, for some

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reason, thought that the Germans would side with him. It must have

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come from somewhere, in the corridors of power in Brussels, some

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conference or other, he must have got the distinct impression from

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somebody in Germany. It would require completely uprooting

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everything that the whole system is based around. You wonder if it is

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almost wishful thinking thing, he realises the only way he can sell

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the EU to his own party and to the Eurosceptic wing is by saying,

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please someone in Germany just throw me a bone. He won't get many

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concessions. Now, all alone. It shows again, migration, the big

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political topic. We are some way off the election but we are not done

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talking about it. We will carry on talking about it at 11:30pm as well.

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Anna and Tom will be back with us again. Stay with us here on BBC

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News. We will have more about the pressure mounting against Lord

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Rennard, the Lib Dem peer. Next, it is time for Click.

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