06/02/2014 The Papers


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Hello, welcome. With me, the deputy editor of the Guardian, and the


former speech writer for Margaret Thatcher, now managing director at a


PR firm. Let's begin with the daily express, reading on the weather, it


says this weekend's storm is set to be even worse than the of October


1987. The news that William Roache has been cleared of all charges also


features on the front page. The Daily Telegraph reports that flood


defences which could have protected the Dawlish train line were delayed


so the Environment Agency could consider the impact of the work on


birds. William Roache is expect King to return to Coronation Street, that


is the lead here, it says the actor -- and the actor is also on the


front of the Independent. And, the FBI will investigate hacking by


blue-chip companies. Pressure on the Education Secretary to take more


action against the practice of female genital mutilation in


Britain, that is the Guardian's lead. And, David Cameron stepping


into the Scottish referendum debate, he has pleaded with the voters to


keep the UK together, says the Financial Times.


Let's begin, very nice to see you both. Let's start with the


Independent, the William Roache story, which is across several front


pages. It is on pretty much every front page, an extraordinary set of


circumstances, a clear verdict. The police and the prosecutors will be


criticised whichever way they drum. After Jimmy Savile, they would be


criticised if they did not prosecute, but now, are they being


too hard? But when you have allegations being made, they have to


be investigated. There is a difference between the level the CPS


have to satisfy themselves about, slightly more than 50% chance of


conviction, and what a jury has to do, which is beyond all reasonable


doubt, and clearly, some cases will result in acquittal. The problem is


the history of this, you are going back 50 or 60 years, no forensics or


DNA, it just comes down to who's word the jury believes. Historical


cases are notably difficult to prove, you had the element of


celebrity, that is a difficult combination. William Roache has gone


through an extraordinary ordeal, he was amazingly dignified, and that


phrase no winners will stick, but it is slightly predictable and


depressing, the criticism. The CPS says it has a duty to listen to the


allegations, and it has got a duty to press charges if they think there


is a reasonable chance of a conviction. What else are they to


do? William Roache cleared, but rape convictions are poor still,


historically. Yes, we have to be careful, though. We have to be


respectful of the court, because unlike any of us, and the faster


Daugherty of people watching this, we were not present in court, we did


not hear the evidence, the jury did, they reached the decision, have to


accept it. My point is, my company worked with Lord McAlpine, sometimes


there is a bit of a feeling that once something has been said about


something, it must be true. William Roache has got a very clear


decision, it is very important that everybody respect that, but even so,


we can agree that the police and prosecutors are in a difficult


position. Some test it, the anonymity debate has risen its head.


There was a CPS report, quite a detailed report from last year, but


concluded that falls allegations of rape were very rare indeed. Let's


have a look at the Metro. 81 years old, he looks extraordinary, the


longest serving member of a soap, but on the anonymity, because this


was part of the coalition agreement, where do you stand on something like


that? David Cameron... It would not have made much difference, because


William Roache is such a famous figure, there was going to be


publicity. It is a difficult balancing act, because on the one


hand, you want to Mitchell that people who have been subjected to a


terrible crime come forward, but on the other, you do not want an


allegation that can destroy somebody handing over their head at the stage


before a decision has been made to prosecute. On balance, it was the


right thing to put in the coalition agreement, but you will have people


of goodwill and intelligence on both sides. William Roache was suspended


from performing until the end of the case. Yes, this will not go away,


because we do have the combination, the toxic combination, of historical


and celebrity. We have several people who are awaiting trial, and


at least three or four people on bail, so this will run and run.


Let's move on to the Daily Telegraph, the flooding, the Prime


Minister taking control of Cobra, Owen Paterson on sick leave, but


this has become a political story now. Yes, the particular angle but


the telly -- that the Daily Telegraph goes on, some members of


the House of Lords said that the Environment Agency decided not to


reinforce the sea wall because they had to consider the invitations for


the local bird population. The paper's angle is unfair, because the


implication is that the Environment Agency decided to be obstructive.


The law says you cannot do anything without environmental impact


assessments, which takes into account the impact upon wildlife,


which is why it takes so long to build airports or doodling for


fracking. The fire at agency have promoted -- the Environment Agency


have rated this, but it is wrong to imply that some officials just


decided that they were going to be obstructive, but now it looks like


it would have made common sense. We have to review a lot of the laws,


and the clear that protecting people and their livelihoods and property


is more important than other considerations. Some might say it is


optimistic they will get that track up and running in six weeks. A great


cartoon here, what do you make of how the Prime Minister has waded


in? 's we saw a new front man, Eric Pickles, who levels into the fact


that it had been the wettest January since 1820, since George III was on


the throne. I do not know where that came from. There are no records past


1910, so where he checked that out from, I do not know, but it has


become political, there are demands for David Cameron to go down there.


He is thinking of his PR advice, just after Christmas, he was


harangued on TV, and nightmare PR pictures emerged, so the man who is


going down there tomorrow is Chris Smith, the boss of the Environment


Agency, and he will get a warm reception, one would imagine he is


equipped with a couple of bodyguards. He is a Labour peer. And


a former cabinet minister. He always struck me as a city dweller. He is a


very nice man. The wide issue, I was an MP in Cumbria during the foot and


mouth crisis, and it took them in a long time to react to something


which happened 300 miles away from London, and a lot of people in the


West Country are thinking, if this had happened in the Home Counties,


the reaction might have been faster. You said that the last time there


were floods in Oxfordshire, his constituency, he was in Rwanda. How


much damage did that do? It seems a long time ago, there was a short


honeymoon for Gordon Brown, a lot of people said that David Cameron was


in big trouble. He has had a problem with flooding fulsome time, it is


difficult for any government. It has taken them a long time, too long,


but UKIP are strong in the West Country, they will make a lot of hay


out of the fact that, again, the government have got billions to


spend on overseas aid but they did not have the millions that would


have made a difference. It is naked opportunism. I am not saying it is


not, but it is an odd given that will have traction. It made it, but


we should address some of the more central questions, why did we build


homes on areas judged to be at high risk of floods? That seems to be


pretty barmy. A great story for the daily express, it is chiming with


what is happening. Yes, . At they like to lead on the weather pretty


much every day, and today it is topical! Two of their most favourite


stories, house prices as well, but there is no royal story. They always


have weather stories, but they were saying it would be one of the worst


winters for years before Christmas. I think they do that before every


Christmas! If you predict enough, you are right eventually. Worse than


1987, we had better check that with one of our forecasters. Coronation


Street on the front as well, Bill Roache leaving, cleared of all


charges. Let's go to your paper, Paul, a great picture on the front,


the opening of the Sochi Olympics, one of the Russian dolls and a


snowboarder on top. Now, you want to go to the house price bubble, just


to the right hand side of the mutilation, FGM story. Yes, this is


an extremely interesting piece of well-developed reportage. The


headline is that Hackney has seen the largest growth, 11.6%


year-on-year growth in house prices, against a national average of 5.4%.


The reporter here has been out looking at first-time buyer flats


and came across one for ?300,000 in a state of disrepair, two bedrooms,


not with any windows, absolutely appalling. At the same time, rents


are going up as well, and the voices of people trying to get on the


property ladder are ones of utter despair. Actually, when you think


about it, ?300,000 for a starter flat in Hackney, the sort of deposit


you would need for that, even on the national average, is going to be


huge, isn't it? The Government was trying to address that with the help


to buy idea, but the underlying question that we have to ask is, I


am sure Hackney has developed an awful lot, but many people would say


who know London's history, it is not the area you would expect to be the


epicentre of a house price bubble, not regarded as the most attractive


part of London. Is this sustainable? Can we have dropped the prices in


the heart of the capital so completely out of line with average


earnings? Can at last? Something that was put to the Chancellor the


other day. So completely out of kilter with anyone outside of London


as well, the regions, the disparity is very difficult. We are running


out of time, another hit of these papers in an hour, one last story on


the Telegraph, which one were we going to go with? It was the smoking


ban, another good story about the pillow which stop snoring, we will


about that later! I think we will do that later. Let's do the smoke ban


in cars carrying children. That is quite fun, though, snoring! We have


not got the graphic, they are busy making it now! They are not going to


do it in 15 seconds. Tell us what this story is. At the time that


there is a Parliamentary vote coming up on a proposal that there should


be a ban on parents smoking in their own cars with children in the


back-seat, there are hundreds of health experts who have written to


the British medical in support of this idea. We know that the Health


Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, came out in support himself quite recently.


People are talking about civil liberties. I thought the pro-smoking


lobby was represented solely by David Hockney. Ken Clarke? Forest


have popped up here, saying they regard it as inconsiderate, but you


know, you have got to let people smoke in private places. I suppose


there is a difficulty about enforcing it. You cannot smoke in


company cars or vans. The precedents that people may be worried about is


that if you establish in law that it is an offence to smoke in the


presence of children in a car, doesn't it logically follow that it


should be an offence in your own home? Is that where we want the law


to go? Do we want inspectors knocking on the door saying you


appeared to have children present when you are smoking, that is an


offence? There are difficult balances to be struck here. We are


all clear it is a serious condition that needs to be looked at


particularly when shall not involved, but I don't think we want


to have too many people who have an excuse to interfere with people's


private lives. Libertarians versus... Maybe they can smoke


electronic ones, who knows? All right, thank you both very much


indeed, Paul Johnson and Dan Collyns. That is our first look at


the papers, we will be back at 11:34 a second look, we will try to get


the pillow story for you! -- 11:30 for a second look. At 11 o'clock,


the latest from Belfast, where a major incident has been declared for


the young people who have been affected by drugs and alcohol.


Coming up before that, time for the sports news in Sportsday.


Hello and welcome to Sportsday, I'm John Watson. On the way this


evening, the England and Wales Cricket Board refuse to explain the


reasons behind ending Kevin Pietersen's international career.


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