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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow. With me are Craig Woodhouse, Political

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Correspondent with The Sun on Sunday, and Joanne Hart, Investments

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Editor at the Mail on Sunday. The Observer leads with the story

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we've been covering all day here on BBC News - the historic events in

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Ukraine. The paper says the opposition has taken control in Kiev

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and shows a picture of the former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, who

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was today released from prison. Ukraine's opposition leader also

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appears on the front of the Telegraph with the caption: The Day

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A Nation Said "Enough". Ukraine also dominates the Sunday Telegraph,

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which has a picture of Yulia Tymoshenko, who the paper calls

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Ukraine's Iron Lady. She appears again on the front cover of The

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Sunday Times, with the headline The Dictatorship Has Fallen. And a

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different story on the front of The Mail on Sunday. It shows a picture

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of Shadow Floods Minister Barry Gardiner, enjoying a dip in Cancun.

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On holiday. Let's begin with the Observer. Like many papers, it is

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showing a picture of Yulia Tymoshenko, the first time we have

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seen her in public for some time, taking to the stage in front of

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thousands of people this evening. The papers have done well to get all

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of this in, because developments have been happening so quickly. Yes,

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I was in the newsroom, writing some of our coverage on this, and it

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seemed that every time I checked the wires after writing 200 words, the

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story was wrong. I must have torn it up several times. It has been an

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incredible day across Ukraine, culminating in the speech by the

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freed Yulia Tymoshenko, straight out of prison, into a taxi and on a

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plane down to Kiev. And amazing pictures. Almost everyone has led

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with it. Joanne, what did you make of some of the things she had to

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say? It appeared to our correspondents that it was rather

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much a pitch for election as the new president. Absolutely, but it is

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scary that these elections are now being set for May. We are now in

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February, so there is a three-month vacuum. What will happen? It is all

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very well her standing on stage and being cheered by most of the

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supporters, although not all, in independent Square. But there are

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three months, and as we have seen with the Arab Spring, the difference

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between a coup or a revolution and long-lasting democracy is a very

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different thing. And this is not even a revolution, you can't call it

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that, because you have an elected leader who has been accused of

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colluding with Russia and taking the country towards Russia rather than

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Europe. This is a relatively new country, still searching for an

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identity, which makes it so much more complicated than a revolution,

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if that was even straightforward. Yes, I am sure many people in

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Ukraine would have some sympathy with Viktor Yanukovych, who

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described it as a coup. When you see protesters taking over a square and

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then presidential palaces and then the resignation of the Speaker of

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Parliament and then the appointment of several of Tymoshenko's allies to

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key positions, if it was happening in other parts of the world, we

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would describe it as a coup. Where we go from here is a scary thing,

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because we have Russia still heavily supportive of Yanukovych. The US and

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the West are supportive of letting the Ukrainian people have their

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say. And as you say, we have a three-month power vacuum. The

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Independent on Sunday's headline perhaps sums it up best, the day a

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nation said enough. But as John was saying, -- as Joanne was saying, now

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what? Things could fall apart, particularly with the East being so

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close to Russia. They speak Russia and there, and there have been

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threats by officials there breaking away from Ukraine. Absolutely. It is

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not really a nation, it is half a nation. Kiev and the western half of

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the nation are saying enough, but the South and the East are saying

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actually, we like being close to Russia. That is a third of the

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country. It is only three years since the nation said enough to

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Yulia Tymoshenko and kicked her out after not as successful a prime

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ministership as she might have liked. So it is very difficult. The

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box of Italy Klitschko, who has been one of the leading opposition

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figures while Tymoshenko has been in prison, we don't know what he will

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do -- the boxer Vitali Klitschko. He might come forward and perhaps win

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the elections when they happen. America and the European Union have

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been key to the negotiations leading to that peace plan that all sides

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signed. It did put Ukraine in the middle of a kind of new Cold War as

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well, with Russia versus America and the European Union. Do you think

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Ukraine has become a pawn in that severed relationship, particularly

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between America and Russia? Through history, Ukraine has unfortunately

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been at the centre of power struggles between East and West

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almost as long as those struggles have been happening. It is easy to

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say they are a pawn in the new Cold War. I actually don't think they are

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being used like that at the moment. But that is because it has not got

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to that stage. You fear that if Putin entrenches position as he has

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done over Syria, maybe the patience of Western nations will get as thin

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as it can. But having a harmonious relationship is valuable to all

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concerned, despite the posturing. It is also hard, because you have the

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Russian oil and gas situation. It is hard for Ukraine to be independent

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without Russian support. And their economy is on its knees at the

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moment, so they do rely on Russia. The Sunday Telegraph calls

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Tymoshenko Ukraine's Iron Lady, saying that she hails revolution,

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saying, this is a country of free people. That title they have given

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her says a lot about their history. She made a lot of money out of the

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gas industry, but my gosh, she has been central to the Orange

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Revolution and very central to this. She's tough. Well, anybody who has

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spent as many years in prison as she has has to be tough. And I suppose

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her imprisonment will perhaps have won a lot of people over that

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perhaps she did not have the support of during the presidential

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elections. Yes. Perhaps it is a case of better the devil you know when

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the elections finally come around. You saw the consummate politician in

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her which she was so good at in 2004. She has dark hair, but she

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died it blonde and put it up into the plat of the present people of

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her country. When let out of risen, she went straight to the square,

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stayed in her wheelchair. The cynic in me doubts whether she needs it,

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but it looks effective, given rousing speeches from a wheelchair.

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She is playing the politics game very well if she wants, as we all

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think she does, to be the person leading Ukraine towards Europe.

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Let's look at other stories in the Sunday Telegraph. Give us the

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background to this one? Apart from anything else, it is hard to know

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whether the Telegraph thinks this is a good or a bad. They are basically

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saying that it has come about that schools have catchment areas that

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middle-class families will flock to if the school is good. A lot of

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schools think this is not fair, so they are trying to create a more

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balanced intake, rather than simply relying on who is nearest school.

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And that is because the best schools tend to be in the best areas. They

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seem to have the best funding and therefore the best opportunities.

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But how are they selecting which children from the most deprived

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areas get into those schools? Is it an entrance exam? Do they pollinate

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out of a hat 's there seemed to be two ways they are doing it. We

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should say that this means schools where there is too much demand,

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schools which are oversubscribed. The schools are faced with a

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dilemma, so there are two ways. One is to stick everyone in a hat and

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draw them out by random allocation, which does not give you a ballot

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school, and the other is something called fair banding, where

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applicants sit tests and then they take abortion numbers of what is

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described here as bright -- they take proportionate numbers of

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bright, average and lower ability pupils, as described here. Cameron

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once described pushy parents are spending thousands of pounds on

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moving to the best postcodes and forcing everybody out. This is

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designed to prevent that, which is a good thing, particularly in London,

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where we have seen that happening a lot. Moving on to the Sunday Times

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and back to Ukraine. Their headline is, the dictatorship has fallen.

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Another picture of Yulia Tymoshenko on stage, wheelchair-bound, having

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just left hospital. She has been pleading for German doctors to help

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her with her back problems. She spoke for around 45 minutes, off

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script as well. But I am sure it is a speech she has been planning in

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her head for a long time! Also on the front page of the Times, the

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latest developments in what we all now know as Plebgate. What is the

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latest here? Five Metropolitan police officers are to face secret

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trials, starting this week, amid claims that they colluded to bring

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down Andrew Mitchell, the cabinet minister in question. This is one of

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the most extraordinary stories. It has rumbled on and on. It is almost

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like a web of lies and deceit. Nobody dares say what is really

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going on. And meanwhile, he is still out of power, suing people left,

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right and centre. It just seems a very clear story. Do you think we

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will get more information from these so-called secret trials? Not if they

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stay secret! It does say details of the alleged plot and apparent

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attempts will be disclosed for the first time at the hearings. Later,

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it says the media are barred from reporting, so great! Maybe one day.

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The Mail on Sunday, your paper, has dedicated its front page not to

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Ukraine, a brave decision. They have a picture of the shadow floods

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minister, hailed as the floods supremo for Ed Miliband, on holiday.

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Yes, this is a cracking story. We should point out that this is not a

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fake photo. He is not up to his waist in water on the Somerset

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Levels where some think he ought to be, he has jetted off with his

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wife. The Mail on Sunday have it inside, promising four more pages.

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You have to think, politicians, what goes through their heads? They seem

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to do this a lot, go on holiday at the wrong time. It gives off the

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wrong signal, because there are so many thousands of families now still

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up to their waist in water in their own homes, screaming out for help.

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Yes, thousands of people are either not allowed into their homes or up

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to their wasting water. And even those who aren't, people who are

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comfortable, are not able to afford to go to places like Cancun, where

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Barry is sunning himself. So the squeezed middle of this country will

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not be impressed. It is also embarrassing for Ed Miliband, who

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has made the government's handling of this entry to his line of

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criticism that they have to be doing everything they can, and they have

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taken their eye off the ball, and why aren't they working on flood

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defences? Why aren't they dredging? He was calling for a coalition

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movement to tackle floods and climate change. Exactly, and this

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was the guy from his party who was meant to be leading. And what is he

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doing? Getting first-hand experience of water. Thanks for taking us

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through the papers. You will be back at 11:30pm with more stories and

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more on the Ukrainian coverage. Thank you for joining us. Stay with

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us on BBC News. At 11, Moore on the developing situation in Ukraine.

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Coming up next, this week's edition of Reporters.

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