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him in the side. #we6 will show you how Andy Murray had to do it the

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hard way. That is all in Sportsday, in 15

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minutes, after the papers. Hello there. Welcome to our lock

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ahead to what the papers will -- a look ahead to what the papers will

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bring us tomorrow. Paul Kellner and Zamila Bunglawala.

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Pretty much all the front-pages are in now. Let's look. We will start

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with the Independent. It starts on Nigel Evans. It say says senior

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Conservatives warned him about his behaviour four years before he was

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charged with sexual offences. He denies all the charges. The Mirror

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is speculating on the fate of the missing plane. The express says a

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healthy diet can prevent dementia in later life. On the Metro, lead ping

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on the trial of a man who ordered the murder of a toddler via webcam.

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The Telegraph says it has new information on the Lockerbie

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bombing. The Guardian is covering the prosecution's opening of that

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trial of Nigel Evans. Free school meal ps plan in disarray

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after being attacked by -- meals plan is in disarray after being

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attacked by head teachers. The plane en route from Kuala Lumpur to

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Beijing. It has completely disappeared. It is an extraordinary

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Story. Of course, like the of best mysteries, it gives rise to all

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sorts of rumours and speculation. Little bits of fact that get

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possibly expanded into something that may or may not tell us

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anything. Here we have, what the Mirror is saying, is a mystery

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Iranian man bought the two plane tickets for the two men with stolen

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passports. Is this true? Question mark! If it is true r they

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responsible for the blowing up of this plane? Of course this all takes

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place in the context of Iran trying to real brat its relationship with

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the -- recalibrate its relationship with the West.

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My wife has been out, trying to move relations between the West and Iran

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on to a better footing, which would include Iran giving up plans for

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nuclear weapons. So, if Iran is involved - a huge if - if - lit up

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in lights! If it is, it makes things awkward. Of course the suggestion

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that another country is involved in some way is based on the fact that

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two people got on to this flight with stolen passports. Yes. It is

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bound to see speculation several days in when we still cannot find

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this plane. It would, as Peter suggests, it would be a hugeful leap

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that it may lead to an entire country being blamed for this jet it

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is troubling for the families not knowing what is happening.

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Speculation does not help thesmt If the plane is at the bottom of an

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ocean and they cannot recover the black box, this will be one of those

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things which will give rise to all theories and conspiracies and

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speculation. As you say, let's hope for the families we can at least get

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closure by finding out what did happen. These black boxes - they are

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actually orange - they only have a battery life of 30 days. 30 days -

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the thing will go dead any way. It does not leave much time. P indeed!

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Let's go on to the Daily Telegraph and the Lockerbie bombers. Carried

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out by Syrian extremists, claims an intelligence officer. This is a

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story pushed. According to our security correspondent it has been

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around for a while. We have not yet seen this documentary. It is news

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that we are taking second-hand, that we hope to see once the documentary

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has been alive. This person has been living in Germany for some time. The

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timing is interesting as to why this is only now coming to the fore.

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Based on the headline, we are looking at Iran on a different

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light, based on the due political issues we are talking about. The

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timing is interesting. I think the fact this person is coming out to

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talk about it now is interesting. This is a former intelligence

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officer who has defected to Germany. Once in the West you may have

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different things to say about countries once you have moved. Oddly

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the headline is very... A great story by the Telegraph. Very good

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news values. It should Syria's Lockerbie bombers ismts is an ir

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Iranian official... If you go back 20 years, Libya was in the dog

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house, and Syria, we were trying to have reasonably normal relationships

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with. Therefore, it is suited for a wider political agenda to say it was

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a Libyan bombing, not a Syrian bombing. It looks looks increasingly

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that Gaddafi had nothing to do with it. Had nothing to do with it. And

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the suggestion from this article is it was in retaliation, so they got

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the Syrians to carry it out, for a strike on a jet which killed 290

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people. So, very interesting. And indeed, al-Megrahi has plead pleaded

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innocent. And Jim Squire always pointed to the suggestion that it

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was something else. And lawyers with level heads said al-Megrahi was not

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the person. Passport checks - 20 million passengers avoid thorough

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checks. How can that be? 200 million people come to the UK. 10%, that

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makes 20 million do not have thorough checks T target is 5%. --

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the target is 5%. There'll always be some. We fly to JFK, into America

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and we know how long those queues are. We know how exhausting the

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process is. Perhaps we in Britain should do the same as the Americans.

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But then you have one or both of two options. Very, very long queues for

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people coming into Britain or many, many more immigration officials,

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which would be a greater expense on the public purse. So, if this story

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is true, then it raises the question - what's the cure? As he was saying,

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the fact is you cannot count everybody because that would take

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forever and cause problems at the border. Exactly. I have been to JFK.

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It has taken me an hour-and-a-half to get out of the front door. We

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need better security within our airports. We don't have that. We

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need more desks just to let people out. . The queues in the airports

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are horrendous. Any change will have to make a logistical nightmare.

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Going back to the story about stolen passports - the BBC found out today

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that 160,000 British passports go missing, or went missing between

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2008-2013 - 160,000. So, these are passports that could get into the

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hands of terrorists, of money launder launders. Sin any kats. As I

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understand -- syndicates. As I understand it, in many countries

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they check the passport. They scan it against the actual database. If

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the there are people stealing British passports and manipulating,

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changing the detail, this may be useful if you are travelling between

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two African or Latin American countries. I'm not sure they are not

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that useful for getting into Britain. If I am wrong. If checks

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are so dreadful that forged and distorted passports will pass muster

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then we have perhaps a deeper prom. Interpol -- deep deeper problem.

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Interpol and police authorities around the world, for many years on

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this problem. I think partly the issue of microchiping lots of

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European passports is to try and overcome these problems. We have not

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gotten all the countries in the world to do this. In the UK, we are

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taking it seriously. We cannot stop people coming in if we don't know

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what we are looking for yet. OK, on to the Independent, Tories knew

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about senior MP's gay sex assaults - it is in quotation marks. It came

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out about Nigel Evans, who is accused of a number of sexual

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offences. All I would say. I know Nigel Evans. I like him. The

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statement - innocent until proven guilty is not just a form of word -

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it means something. The trial opened today. This is the prosecution case.

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Now, the allegation is serious, not just in relation to Nigel Evans, but

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in relation to the Tory Party, which is why it is on the front-page of

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the Independent, the Guardian. If it is true, it has wider ramifications

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than Nigel Evans himself. It is just the prosecution case. When we hear

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the defence case let's hope it gets all the prominence this does. He

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denies all the charges He said that from day one.

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It will be something to watch, as Peter said. It has made several

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papers. It will be a big story for some time. The Daily Mail - infants

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making menu choices - parents chopping vegs - what is this about?

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This is an interesting story of where we think the disarray will

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happen in our school system and where the food is coming from. The

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policy was a good policy because we do have good free school meals for

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lots of neighbourhoods now I has worked as a good poll -- now. It has

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worked as a good policy. There are free breakfasts as well. If it does

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not work on the ground, someone has to revisit why they think it is a

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good policy and what is going wrong. Two very good friends of mine wrote

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a book called The Blunders of our Governments. Things well meaning

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that went wrong. Could this be another one? Feeding kids properly,

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you cannot overstate the importance of this. It really is absolutely

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vital. The policy must work. It's no good just having an announcement and

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the right motives. You have to get down and look back at the poll tax,

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or this Government's health reforms - the list goes on of things which

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seemed a good idea at the time, but were not properly thought through.

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When will we ever learn. You were from blar's Number Ten. You

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thought about things clearly or very deeply before you put them to your

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master, didn't you? We test things as well. That is why we have pilots

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for policies. When you have rollouts on this scale, there are planning

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things which need to be dealt W if those things are not taken care of,

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lots of people do suffer and I mean, children going hungry is not a good

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sign. Have there been pilots of this? At

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the borough level. Nationally we're talking about thousands of schools.

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It is not just about timing as well. At borough level there is a

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manageable number of schools and you can get by and talk to them about

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how it is done and make sure it happens properly. National roll-out,

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you are going from 50 schools to 2000 or whatever. We can forgive a

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few teething troubles, can't we, with a policy as big as this? No! We

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have to think about starving children. Precisely because what

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Nick Clegg announced was so important and will be so worthwhile,

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we jolly well have to get it right. I know personally if my belly is

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full, I am concentrating more in this studio. So if you are tiled,

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there you go. Onto the Guardian. -- if you are a child. UKIP facing

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questions from European allies. This is really interesting because we had

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the time is turning them over and raising questions. UKIP is part of a

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grouping of like-minded parties from a number of countries that get

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together in the European Parliament because they have certain procedural

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and financial rights if they join up. It is not UKIP MEPs, but MEPs

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from parties they are associated with. Saying terrible things about

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child-bearing most women being compared to Osama Bin Laden.

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Precisely because UKIP is fighting for first place, Nigel Farage said a

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couple of weeks ago that they can expect a lot of scrutiny. Just ten

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weeks from the European elections, it will be interesting to see

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whether the scrutiny in the end undermines UKIP's appeal. With a lot

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more press coverage has to come more scrutiny. As a slim woman, I find it

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quite incredible that we are talking about Muslim women in this way. --

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Muslim woman. We need to look at why UKIP is supporting these groups and

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what it says about them and what tolerance levels we have. Are we out

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of time? I think we are. We sped through that and did not get to

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Kelly Gallagher, the brilliant success on the slopes of Sochi. We

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will talk about that later, in an hour, for another look at the

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stories behind the headlines. At 11 o'clock on BBC News, we will have

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the latest on the search operation for that missing Malaysia airlines

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aeroplane bound for Beijing from Kuala Lumpur. First, Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm Katie

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