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28/03/2014

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against Australia in the Twenty20 World Cup. And we will have all the

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night's rugby union and rugby league scores as well.

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Hello, and welcome to our look at the morning's papers. With me are

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the social affairs editor of the Guardian, Randeep Ramesh, and

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Reuters journalist and author Matthew Green. The FT leads with

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"Insurers attack City watchdog" ` the financial insurance industry

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responding there to plans to investigate 30 million financial

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products. The Mail has the teenager who says she caught TB from her cat

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in what is believed to be the first case of its kind in the world

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"Tuberculosis Rex" is the Sun's front page ` you can catch TB from

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dogs as well it seems The Independent has a headline about a

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plan to spend ?45 million on a free school, which it says will make it

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the most expensive in the country. The Telegraph claims Maria Miller,

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the culture secretary, made a million pounds profit by abusing the

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parliamentary expenses system and over`claiming for her mortgage.

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"Banks must give fraud victims their money back" is the Times' lead,

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referring to plans to potentially refund victims of credit card fraud.

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And the Guardian has the headline that an Independent Scotland may

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keep the pound, which comes the paper says via a private admission

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from a government minister. That is where we will start. Matthew, it is

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all a bit like and dagger, isn't it? A minister in government, not named,

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all very secretive. It would be quite a bargaining chip for Alex

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Salmond, wouldn't it? It seems odd that someone within the government

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would have just handed over a gift like that so willingly. Very strange

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indeed. We heard earlier that Downing Street is denying that this

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is the case. It is obviously a huge boost to the pro`independence camp.

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Nick is keeping quiet about his source. It indicates what a good

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journalist he is. On the other hand, as Matthew was saying, this is about

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a victory for the pro`independence brigade, because they are getting

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the government to admit they are thinking the unthinkable. There is a

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bit of quid pro quo going on here. The currency union, which Scotland

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we understand would need, Westminster say they are not having

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it, would be in return for... In return for keeping missiles in

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Scotland, on the Clyde. It is a clever move, the government have

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said that they are in a different country if they vote for

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independence. Isn't this surrendering a little early? For me,

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it is inconceivable that Scotland are potentially going to leave the

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UK. I have just returned to the country after 14 years abroad, and

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if you told me when I left that I would return to find Britain split

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into, wouldn't believed it. The idea that senior figures in government

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are starting in negotiations, I find amazing. They are pouring cold water

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on it. A lot of the no campaign, we have Alistair Carmichael tonight

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saying that an anonymous off the record quote does not change the

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stance on the currency. Listen to the views of the governor of the

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Bank of England, and the Secretary of the Treasury, that the currency

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would be damaging for all of the UK, so a currency union will simply not

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happen. It is getting pretty close to the wire if we are even have an

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in this conversation. The atmospherics are being changed here.

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We know the polls are moving towards Alex Salmond, and in order to spike

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his gun somewhat, the government approaches this, or the ministry has

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approached this, saying that it is a bit of give. There is something we

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can trade away, so you might not want to do that. You might

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reconsider. It is a way of being realistic from the government's

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site. It doesn't help the no campaign, does it? Depends who is

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running the no campaign. They say, you can keep the currency but we

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need to keep our nuclear subs there, that is admitting defeat,

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isn't it? The SNP is committed to getting rid of the missiles, so

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there is a way in which they are saying, this is realistic. If you

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want to be independent, these are the sorts of deals he will have to

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make on your couples. This is all getting too sophisticated for me. It

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seems like a huge foreign goal. They are not doing very well at this

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strategy. `` own goal. Don't leave us! There is talk that the no

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campaign needs to stop being so negative, and concentrate more on

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the positives of us staying together. That is possibly a bit

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more difficult to make. We were told to phone up our friends in Scotland

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and encourage them to stay in the union, that sounds to me like it is

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pretty desperate. The Daily Telegraph, Maria Miller will not be

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happy to find herself on the front page. We understand she made a ?1

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million profit after over claiming for her mortgage. She wasn't the

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culture Secretary at the time, what she? `` was she? It is that ?1

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million figure that people will be up in arms about. She may have to

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repay a small amount but she has profited handsomely. The idea of the

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public purse supporting that. This is so familiar, the Daily Telegraph

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broke the story before the last election, and has continued. They

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stand on the brink of claiming a very big scalp if she were to decide

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that her position was untenable. There is a quote from a Conservative

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source, saying we cannot have a member of the cabinet found to abuse

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the expenses system in any way. Especially this close to a vital

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election. Obviously, the Daily Telegraph would stay this, but there

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is a line that has been crossed `` say. It is difficult for Maria

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Miller to say, I did the right thing, and then repay and apologise.

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That million pounds is first to keep, on the strength of ?5,000 she

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received. It never seems to end, but the kind of sanctions that

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Parliament have over MPs when they do this seem pretty feeble, don't

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they? Yes, particularly in this case. Maria Miller is accused of not

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cooperating with the investigation, which seems to be almost a bigger

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scandal in its own way and the allegation of the inflated mortgage

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claim. Let's move on to the Independent. In 20 minutes loop is

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time, there might be quite a few people getting married. `` 20

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minutes ' time. A couple of women there, we assume from the picture

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they are going to get married perhaps this weekend. Does it matter

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whether we call it a marriage or civil partnership? I think the

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bigger context is the important thing. If we rewind a few decades,

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something like this would have been unimaginable. The fact is, activists

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and campaigners have made this huge change in society, and that gives

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hope for a lot of other causes, whether it be big environmental

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problems that seem insoluble, so I think it is inspiring to see what

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could be achieved in the future. Some people still don't like it.

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They have had years to get used to it that they don't like it. They

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have lost the argument. They don't have to like it, do they? I suppose

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that anger will have to find a political outlet, maybe in the form

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of Ukip. You will always have to face that there will be a group of

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people whose religious beliefs... If it is your honestly held religious

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view that a marriage should be between a man and a woman, there's

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nothing bitter about that, is there? It is bitter in the sense that you

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have lost the argument and you have have lost the argument and you have

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to live with it. Your views have not prevailed upon the British public.

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What can you do? The march of progress is One Direction, you face

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the other way. It is difficult. This is the most expensive free

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school in Britain. ?45 million, six times the average on a school for

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500 children. It is the sixth form for high achieving students. No

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guarantee it will do them proud, is there? We have seen some free

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schools getting into hot water, and not being up to scratch. That is

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true, although, from where I am standing, spending more money on

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education, which is incidentally aimed at pupils from disadvantaged

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backgrounds or those with subsidised school meals, it seems at a good

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idea to me. ?90,000 per pupil? That much money? Why not? That is a

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misnomer, they are dividing the total cost of the school amongst 500

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students. Over time, that will be different. We need to spend more

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money on education, great, it is happening. Why shouldn't all

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children have that spent on them? Because we can't afford it. If you

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take ?45 million and give to 500 students, you remove it from

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everyone else. Free schools, on the face of it they are a good idea, but

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this particular idea rests on the fact there is a selection test. You

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select those people who are bright enough to get in, and the new

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trumpet the fact that you are sending essentially very clever kids

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off to Oxford or Cambridge. Without the selective nature, it wouldn't

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exist as a school. You are paying for elitism. There is the argument

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that, does selection have a place in a state funded school? Should it be

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open to everyone? You have to have a centre of excellence. If you have

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got the money and you are prepared to invest it, it will yield

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dividends over time. I find it hard to argue with the idea of setting up

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something that is really trying to help people who are coming from

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disadvantaged backgrounds to break into Oxford and Cambridge, from

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which they are still excluded. I would feel better if it was in

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Westminster, which is a rich part of the country, and there are other

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areas that are crying out for this. I'm going to talk about football,

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and care even less. I have set it. Apparently to Alan Pardew, the

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Newcastle united manager, footballers are now middle class. I

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thought we were all middle class, but are they? Are they eloquent,

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well educated middle`class boys these days? Football has become more

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posh than it once was. It is so expensive to go and watch a game,

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isn't it? The audience is definitely tending towards being middle class.

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What we have seen in rugby, cricket, for the Olympics, public school

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educated people dominate the ranks of our athletics teams, our rugby

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teams, our cricket teams. We have seen public school people appear in

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football. Oxlade`Chamberlain, Frank Lampard... I think the trend is

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there. I suppose because public schools have such fantastic sports

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facilities often. I notice they are a lot more particular. Remember the

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days when you felt so sorry for the footballers, having to answer

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questions after a match. Someone who is terribly articulate is not

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expected to score a goal for Manchester United. It seemed unfair

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in those days. Now they get media training. The last time I looked, it

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looks like football was more upper`class, or extremely wealthy.

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Isn't that the issue? There is so much cash floating around in

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football, that there is an excessive amount of money. Is that wealth or

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social class? That amount of money must buy you some social mobility,

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surely. That is the key problem, explaining the British class system

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to anyone who is not from Britain, it is impossible to decipher. Those

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days are gone now. That is it for the Papers. Much more

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at the top of the hour about that broke all between blood it to do and

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a protest over Old Trafford tomorrow say it'll prove David Moyes isn't as

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popular as he thinks he is. St Helens win the battle of the

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unbeatables with a dramatic late victory over Leeds tonight, Makinson

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the man of the

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