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Trafford and tells reporters that he hopes to be the one. All that to

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come and more in Sportsday, in 15 minutes after the papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me are former Government policy advisor and

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academic Zamila Bunglawala and Oliver Wright, Whitehall editor at

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the Independent. Let's have a look at some of the front pages. We will

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start with the Metro. Its leading on the capture of Michael Wheatley, the

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man known as the Skull Cracker. He had been on the run, open prison

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since Saturday. Telegraph runs with the same story, reporting that the

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justice minister is promising a change in prison release rules as a

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result. The Daily Express has a different story, warning that extra

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mile per hour gales are set to hit Britain in the next few days. The

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Guardian features a photo collage of the social media protest against the

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kidnapping of over 200 schoolgirls in northern Nigeria. The Financial

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Times is reporting on Vladimir Putin's appeal to pro`Russian

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supporters in eastern Ukraine to shelve the proposed referendum on

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independence. We are going to start with the Metro, we have cracked it.

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Police hold escaped robber after armed raid. The Skull Cracker, as he

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has been charmingly named, back behind bars? They may have cracked

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it, but it's a pretty long`running case. By my reckoning he's been in

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prison for 34 years, on and off, his escaped three times, committed close

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on 24 armed robberies. Most of the time simply after he has escaped,

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once to a hospital, then to an optician. Clearly, there is still

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stuff going on. It does lead you to slightly question why he was in an

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open prison, given that he had escaped twice before from prison on

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various different occasions, and carried out more armed robberies. I

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think there are some policy and locations. Clearly, this is an

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exceptional case and you can't make policy based on individual cases.

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But I think it plays into what the Telegraph is saying, clearly the

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Conservatives are trying to make some degree of political capital,

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saying, we are going to be tough on crime. But they have a fundamental

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problem, the jails are full. If we bring up the front page, jail must

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mean jail for violent criminals. The justice minister is apparently

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promising to change the rules after the Skull Cracker's flight from an

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open prison. It's interesting, you know, this story has moved into the

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policy arena now? As Oliver says, it is an exceptional case. We might

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have to change rules just for people like this. Regardless of how much

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time we have spent with him in prison, we have not managed to

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rehabilitate this man. Luckily he has been caught, but it is an

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exceptional case, how a person that can be in prison for decades can

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still commit the same crime within days of absconding. He could have

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been released, potentially we might have the same problem. Given the

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nature of his crimes, which could mean a tariff that would allow him,

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after a certain amount of time, to be released, do you reach a point

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with someone like him and say, you know what, the judge sits there and

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says, you just keep running out, despite the fact you could do a

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minimum term and be released, I'm going to have to lock you up for

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ever, this is madness. It's an interesting play on the term, life

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must mean life. Jail must mean jail. We are going to have to start

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rehabilitating prisoners that we can rehabilitate, and what that means,

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versus prisoners that we have even a chance to and cannot. It could have

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happened again, he could do what he is famous for. The word

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rehabilitation, it refers to the crime, I suppose, not necessarily

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the person that committed it? When you think about it? I don't know.

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Can you released that person back into society? They clearly felt that

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they could, given the nature of crimes he committed. What we know

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about open prisons is that is where they go when they are being prepared

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for release. It's always dangerous, remember, the dogs legislation, it's

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dangerous making policy on the back of individual cases. I mean this

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word in a bad sense, he is exceptional. He does not typify the

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vast majority of people in the prison system. Clearly there is

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something very odd about him. If he was about to be released, why

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abscond? He was only jailed for eight years in 2002, which would

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make him eligible for parole four years ago. Chances are, he was about

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to come out anyway. What kind of person, in any degree of sanity,

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with abscond when you know you are going to get locked back up again,

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when you are probably going to be released in a year? OK, onto the

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Telegraph. Panic buys as families face house shortage. I remember back

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in 1989, Nigel Lawson decided he was going to end double mortgage income

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tax relief. There was a mad rush them, that is when I bought my

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place. What did it do? It bang into prices up again. Is that what is

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going to happen now? I don't know how many families by panic buy

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houses. I wish I had money to panic buy! The story is that there are not

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enough two or three`bedroom houses, especially in the south`east, which

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we know Rostov is it a continuing supply problem which will push up

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prices? How money families are doing this? We don't know. Houses are not

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for many people. I don't understand if the market is going to cool for

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long enough for people to even buy these houses. But we do have an

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upward trend. This bubble is real, lots of people are feeling it. I

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have a bit of sympathy for Osborne and the Treasury. It's difficult,

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you have two different housing markets. You have the housing market

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around London and a housing market in other parts of the country. In

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other parts of the country, it isn't that bloated and people are finding

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it very hard to buy. In London we say, there is a housing bubble, but

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I don't think you would think that in parts of Cornwall, parts of the

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north`east or north`west. How do you create a national policy that does

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not have an effect somewhere else? I think it is really tricky. That

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would make it very difficult for this government, trying to deal with

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what a lot of people suggest is a housing bubble. We heard the OECD

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yesterday suggest this is where we are heading. They may have to think

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about interest`rate rises, that would be the Bank of England,

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cutting back on help to buy. All of these little levers are going to

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force people to think, we need to get in here before this happens and

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that will Stoke the bubble even more? I think you are right. There

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has to be a multiple effects with how we handle this. The London prize

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has gone up in double digits in the last year. It will take more than

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just fiscal measures to fix the problem. We don't seem to be talking

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about building more houses, especially in the south`east. There

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is space to do this. We have to talk about policy measures as well.

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Labour says it wants to build 1 million homes if it gets into power.

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Villa Matra right, but... Where? Exactly.

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It rest on what is happening in Ukraine, Vladimir Putin beat a

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retreat, according to the Guardian, over the referendum? We have been

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here before, the Geneva peace talks, where he was saying, we will scale

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back our support for the separatist 's, they will disarm, have

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elections. Where did that go? I think we need to treat what he says

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with a degree of scepticism. I think it is also true that it is not in

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Russia's interest is for the whole situation to deteriorate, partly

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because of sanctions and partly because it is on their border. There

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is a sizeable majority that do not want to go to Russia. This is not

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Crimea repeated. This is a much more difficult situation, 30% of the

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population in eastern Ukraine are ethnically Russian, 70% are not.

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Giving it to Russia or Russia intervening is not the solution and

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Russia knows that. This may be the first sign that Vladimir Putin is

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changing strategy. It may just be a slight game. There are two things at

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play. If the result of the referendum is, we want to join

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Russia, the Russians and Moscow may feel duty bound to actually do

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something, as they did with Crimea. But if they did that, that could

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bring a whole world of pain into sanctions? Absolutely. If people are

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given the chance to speak, it would be terrifying if we did not listen

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to what they asked for. But the referendum is being organised by

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people that want to be part of Russia. How would he look if he

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ignored the result? Which is why he is now saying, don't do it. That is

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possible, that he does not want a flawed referendum, which it would

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be. Or he does not want eastern Ukraine, that is fundamentally it, I

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think. We will have to see what happens. It could be a temporary

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move. He's trying to see where sanctions may go next. Because

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Russia is hurting because of the sanctions and that is the long`term

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measure that could take place. The other thing worth bearing in mind is

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that there is domestic pressure on Vladimir Putin. We see it in the

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West as being personified in him. But what he is doing is very popular

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in Russia. If he was seen to be more conciliatory to the west, that would

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not be as popular. The Guardian, red alert for Nigeria. The growing and

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global protest against Boko Haram, this crackpot cult which has

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abducted 200 girls in Nigeria. They have been missing for more than

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three weeks and we still don't know where they are. When the Boko Haram

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video came out, the man said, we are going to sell these girls, talking

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about slavery, still, in Africa today. Nigeria is one of the

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powerhouses of Africa. It is a positive economic story. Yes, we

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know there is corruption, but we did not know this kind of problem was

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still happening on this scale. We wonder what the ripple effects might

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be. Lots of families not going to send their daughters to school,

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because they fear they are going to be abducted and kidnapped. It is

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great that the international community is picking this up,

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probably because Nigeria has been slow to pick this up. Social media

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does have these benefits. We heard David Cameron talk about the fact he

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has daughters. We suspect there has been a lot of pressure, as well,

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from the first lady on this kind of issue for President Obama. The

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President is Goodluck Jonathan, he has not had much luck on this issue?

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There is a perception in Nigeria that he is weak. He is a strange

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guy. The governor got picked up at Heathrow airport on money`laundering

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charges so he became governor. Benny was appointed to vice president then

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the president died. He took over that and won the election in 2010.

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There is a perception that he has been a weak president. But is not to

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say a strongman president is not what Nigeria needs or wants, but

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certainly, his handling of this crisis has not gone down well.

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Public opinion in Nigeria will be sending the army but that is easier

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said than done. Indeed. There is a vast area to cover. Back to the

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Telegraph. Abu Hamza, apparently he had a deal with MI5 to keep Britain

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safe while preaching hatred. It sounds at first glance like an

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extraordinary story which we should not believe but it has the ring of

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authenticity about. The period the paper is talking about is between

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1997 and 2000 so before 9/11. What we do know is the security services

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had a fairly ambivalent attitude towards Islamic fundamentalists,

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that quite a few of them, we gave the Silent Hill and we allowed them

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to carry on much to the fury of governments like Saudi Arabia and

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Jordan, as long as they did not cause trouble in this country, we

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turned a blind eye to what they did elsewhere. It is not impossible that

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Abu Hamza was involved in this. There is an interesting line which

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comes up at the court case in New York. He claims he has got

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documentary evidence to prove it. The prosecution is trying to say

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this evidence is inadmissible. I think it would be interesting to

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hear. This might give a reason as to why, there were issues in terms of

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prosecuting on a number of levels. Fire macro absolutely. This is

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pre`9/11. There was a lot of difference about how we spoke about

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the Muslim community in Britain and how we spoke about isn't as

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overseas, we did not call it that. `` Islam. I think we would have to

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physically see the documentation. I find it difficult to see how MI5

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knew pre`9/11 how dangerous this man could be, but also to see how we

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were distrustful of the Muslim community in Britain before 9/11 so

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it is a difficult story to pin down. I would like to see The Papers. I

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think we all would. You will be back in our's time to look at the stories

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behind the headlines. Stay with us here because at the top of the hour

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we will have more on that chap there, he is the skull cracker and

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is back in jail. Now it is time for Sportsday. There was a big football

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match tonight. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm

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Lizzie Greenwood`Hughes. The headlines this

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