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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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With me are journalist Matthew Green and Anne Ashworth,

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The Observer says the Church of England has delivered

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"withering criticism" of David Cameron's Middle East policy,

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The Mail on Sunday says the BBC is in crisis following a complaint

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from South Yorkshire police over its reporting of the police search

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The Sunday Times features a picture of a Yazidi girl alongside

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a story that Islamic State militants have massacred 300 Yazidi men.

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And the same girl appears on the front page

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Below it, though, is an energy story, it says prices have soared

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The Government's response to the expansion of the Islamic State

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is the main focus for the Sunday Telegraph.

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It says the Prime Minister is warning that

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the dangerous ideology could bring terror to the streets of Britain

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And the Sunday Express says watchdogs are planning to crack

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So, let's begin on that crop of very different stories. Matthew, what do

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you make of the Observer's story on the church's attack on David

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Cameron's Middle East policy? It is a very strong story here. They have

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had sight of a letter written by the Bishop of Leeds, making a very

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scathing attack on David Cameron's response to Islamic extremism around

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the world, not just in Iraq but Nigeria and elsewhere. This Bishop

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says he lacks a coherent strategy, there is no vision. He makes

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reference to the fact that Britain stood by while France and Germany

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offered to take the Christians who had fled from Mosul in Iraq. He is

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putting the spotlight on David Cameron's handling of the crisis. It

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is not the only criticism that David Cameron is facing. There is a story

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on the Independent on Sunday on the front page, in which there is

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another attack on the government's strategy. From a senior general who

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is saying the government's spineless lack of leadership and the absence

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of any credible strategy, alarm and double loss of nerves. The church

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and the army are coming out with very fierce criticisms of government

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policy on this. Is there any recognition in these attacks that it

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is a very complicated picture and it may well be the West itself has not

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got its act together? We have seen this in Europe this week. I think

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there is some truth in that. There is a rather grandstanding tone to

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this letter from the Bishop. One might argue that bringing in

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religion to foreign policy at a moment like this, when it might be

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better to have less polarisation, might be a better idea. Some are

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arguing with the church should be reaching out to Muslim communities

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in Britain at a time like this, rather than pouring more fuel on the

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fire. It would be interesting to know how this represents public

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opinion, whether this senior in the church is speaking for ask, whether

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we should be in there more than a humanitarian corridor. We have not

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had much indication of public opinion. I suppose the church has a

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tradition of intervening in these questions. It is also interesting

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that it is not the Archbishop of Canterbury, it is a less senior

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figure. I wonder if we see some church politics here. Perhaps

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Archbishop Welby did not want to speak out so someone has spoken on

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his behalf. The letter says it is backed by the Archbishop. What that

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means is not clear. It sounds like he has endorsed it in some way but

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he has not signed it. Is your paper interest did in testing public

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opinion in this area? The most interesting thing would be to see

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how people feel, whether those scenes on Mount Sinjar have changed

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people's view on this or whether they recognise that it is a very

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complex situation. And I am wondering what the states around are

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doing. The silence of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Jordan on this is

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something that most people would be thinking, it is a threat to them,

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what are they doing? I want to just move on to a related story, there is

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so much about the Middle East in The Papers this weekend, on the Sunday

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Telegraph front page, headline, PM, our generational struggle against a

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poisonous ideology. In a sense, this is him trying to answer his critics.

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It is an extraordinary almost Churchill in a statement saying this

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is the biggest fight of his political career, of our lifetimes.

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It is Ray unclear what remedies he is proposing. We keep hearing the

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word, military prowess. What does that mean? It does not mean boots on

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the ground. But also, one can see that Cameron is on the moral high

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ground here because he proposed action against Syria. He can say,

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look, I was aware what was happening in that region. If you had listened

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to me, I think there is a against it. At the same time, all this

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shrill commentary from all sides that something must be done, it is

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pretty clear that there is no quick solution to what has happened. The

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roots of this go back several years to the rise of Nouri al`Maliki as

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Prime Minister of Iraq. He has presided over this sectarian

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government which has created huge amounts of disenfranchisement and

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alienation. That will not be solved with a few air strikes. It is not

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clear what the remedy will be. Fire macro it is also unclear about what

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everybody thinks this whole crisis now stems from. In the Prime

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Minister's statement, he says it is nothing to do with our last

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intervention in Iraq. But it has everything to do with the last

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intervention in Iraq. The way the shears were allowed to take power,

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the Sunnis were marginalised, it enabled them to get the hands on

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sophisticated weaponry, it is all a consequence of the last

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intervention. That has framed the discussion so much in military

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terms. Do we reinstate Iraq, do we send more troops or do nothing?

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There has to be a whole spectrum of options. Certainly work with the US

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and Iran to try and patch things up. One thing I wanted to point out is

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the Prime Minister does seem to be drawing links between what is

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happening there to what could happen here. There could be attacks in the

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street. Do you think that a sensational lies in things? It is

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always the way British politicians seek to link public opinion here to

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foreign policy actions. The people who are really suffering in all this

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are the Iraqis and Syrians. The devastation that is taking place

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there dwarfs anything that is likely to happen in the UK. Let's move on

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to the other story on the front page of the Telegraph, which is the

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discovery in Tilbury docks of the 35 people smuggled in a shipping

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container. One of them has died. Is it bringing any new like to what

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happened? The details here are still fairly sketchy. We are not sure

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where these people come from. It sounds like they are from south

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Asia. It is probably not directly linked to a conflict zone but with

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all this turmoil in the Middle East, that will raise questions about

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whether we will see more of this illegal immigration. It also puts

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the spotlight on how this happens. This is not just the odd truck

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driver bringing over people stuffed in the back of a container, it is a

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huge multi`billion`dollar trafficking industry linked to all

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other kinds of organised crime and it needs a global response. We were

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hearing from a correspondent earlier that the numbers coming over have

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gone up on 11,000 to 18,000. And the French say it is a problem they

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cannot contain on their side of the Channel. I'm just looking at the

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front pages and thinking, have we ever seen an August like this? So

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many events of huge magnitude happening. Whatever happened to the

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silly season, the events we would normally be discussing at this time

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of year. These stories have been grim human misery. Let's move on to

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the Sunday Times. The front page has two quite contradictory stories in a

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way. They may not be related. A big headline saying rise of the new

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underclass costs ?30 billion. There are half a million problem families.

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And then in the corner the governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney

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saying we are to recovery. It is interesting. It is a huge issue of

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exclusion and families who are falling through any kind of net. But

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it is also interesting how the story is cast. It is costing us ?30

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billion but it is costing these families their whole futures. It

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would be interesting to see how people end up in this position.

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There was fascination with Benefit Street, the Channel 4 documentary a

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few months ago but I would like to see more reporting on the ground

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about how this happens. And the measures that are taken. The story

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says there is some success with a group of families where they have

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managed to get the children to go to school and improve their health. It

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is almost a good news story. You do not need to stay on benefits street,

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you do not need to become a bee sent helpless, we can help you. I am

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fascinated by the story about us being halfway to recovery. The

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Governor of the Bank of England appears to speak in riddles. He has

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been called the bad boyfriend because you cannot work out what he

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means. Earlier in the week it did not seem like he was suggesting that

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things were that good. Wages were not rising and increasing interest

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rates would be delayed. Now he is saying we are half way there.

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Interest rates might possibly go up. I am as confused as ever. I know

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central bankers like to be men of mystery that this one is perhaps

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overdoing it in my view. Do you agree? It is the classic metaphor,

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halfway to wear? Give us some numbers. Whatever the finish line, I

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love that expression. Halfway to what, we do not know. Nearly there

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but who can tell. That is it from The Papers. We will be back at

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11:30pm to do more of the same. Do stay with us here on BBC News. A man

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is found dead in the Tilbury shipping container. Coming up next

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is a roundup of the best reporting from the BBC in reporters.

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