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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers


With me are journalist Matthew Green and Anne Ashworth,


The Observer says the Church of England has delivered


"withering criticism" of David Cameron's Middle East policy,


The Mail on Sunday says the BBC is in crisis following a complaint


from South Yorkshire police over its reporting of the police search


The Sunday Times features a picture of a Yazidi girl alongside


a story that Islamic State militants have massacred 300 Yazidi men.


And the same girl appears on the front page


Below it, though, is an energy story, it says prices have soared


The Government's response to the expansion of the Islamic State


is the main focus for the Sunday Telegraph.


It says the Prime Minister is warning that


the dangerous ideology could bring terror to the streets of Britain


And the Sunday Express says watchdogs are planning to crack


So, let's begin on that crop of very different stories. Matthew, what do


you make of the Observer's story on the church's attack on David


Cameron's Middle East policy? It is a very strong story here. They have


had sight of a letter written by the Bishop of Leeds, making a very


scathing attack on David Cameron's response to Islamic extremism around


the world, not just in Iraq but Nigeria and elsewhere. This Bishop


says he lacks a coherent strategy, there is no vision. He makes


reference to the fact that Britain stood by while France and Germany


offered to take the Christians who had fled from Mosul in Iraq. He is


putting the spotlight on David Cameron's handling of the crisis. It


is not the only criticism that David Cameron is facing. There is a story


on the Independent on Sunday on the front page, in which there is


another attack on the government's strategy. From a senior general who


is saying the government's spineless lack of leadership and the absence


of any credible strategy, alarm and double loss of nerves. The church


and the army are coming out with very fierce criticisms of government


policy on this. Is there any recognition in these attacks that it


is a very complicated picture and it may well be the West itself has not


got its act together? We have seen this in Europe this week. I think


there is some truth in that. There is a rather grandstanding tone to


this letter from the Bishop. One might argue that bringing in


religion to foreign policy at a moment like this, when it might be


better to have less polarisation, might be a better idea. Some are


arguing with the church should be reaching out to Muslim communities


in Britain at a time like this, rather than pouring more fuel on the


fire. It would be interesting to know how this represents public


opinion, whether this senior in the church is speaking for ask, whether


we should be in there more than a humanitarian corridor. We have not


had much indication of public opinion. I suppose the church has a


tradition of intervening in these questions. It is also interesting


that it is not the Archbishop of Canterbury, it is a less senior


figure. I wonder if we see some church politics here. Perhaps


Archbishop Welby did not want to speak out so someone has spoken on


his behalf. The letter says it is backed by the Archbishop. What that


means is not clear. It sounds like he has endorsed it in some way but


he has not signed it. Is your paper interest did in testing public


opinion in this area? The most interesting thing would be to see


how people feel, whether those scenes on Mount Sinjar have changed


people's view on this or whether they recognise that it is a very


complex situation. And I am wondering what the states around are


doing. The silence of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Jordan on this is


something that most people would be thinking, it is a threat to them,


what are they doing? I want to just move on to a related story, there is


so much about the Middle East in The Papers this weekend, on the Sunday


Telegraph front page, headline, PM, our generational struggle against a


poisonous ideology. In a sense, this is him trying to answer his critics.


It is an extraordinary almost Churchill in a statement saying this


is the biggest fight of his political career, of our lifetimes.


It is Ray unclear what remedies he is proposing. We keep hearing the


word, military prowess. What does that mean? It does not mean boots on


the ground. But also, one can see that Cameron is on the moral high


ground here because he proposed action against Syria. He can say,


look, I was aware what was happening in that region. If you had listened


to me, I think there is a against it. At the same time, all this


shrill commentary from all sides that something must be done, it is


pretty clear that there is no quick solution to what has happened. The


roots of this go back several years to the rise of Nouri al`Maliki as


Prime Minister of Iraq. He has presided over this sectarian


government which has created huge amounts of disenfranchisement and


alienation. That will not be solved with a few air strikes. It is not


clear what the remedy will be. Fire macro it is also unclear about what


everybody thinks this whole crisis now stems from. In the Prime


Minister's statement, he says it is nothing to do with our last


intervention in Iraq. But it has everything to do with the last


intervention in Iraq. The way the shears were allowed to take power,


the Sunnis were marginalised, it enabled them to get the hands on


sophisticated weaponry, it is all a consequence of the last


intervention. That has framed the discussion so much in military


terms. Do we reinstate Iraq, do we send more troops or do nothing?


There has to be a whole spectrum of options. Certainly work with the US


and Iran to try and patch things up. One thing I wanted to point out is


the Prime Minister does seem to be drawing links between what is


happening there to what could happen here. There could be attacks in the


street. Do you think that a sensational lies in things? It is


always the way British politicians seek to link public opinion here to


foreign policy actions. The people who are really suffering in all this


are the Iraqis and Syrians. The devastation that is taking place


there dwarfs anything that is likely to happen in the UK. Let's move on


to the other story on the front page of the Telegraph, which is the


discovery in Tilbury docks of the 35 people smuggled in a shipping


container. One of them has died. Is it bringing any new like to what


happened? The details here are still fairly sketchy. We are not sure


where these people come from. It sounds like they are from south


Asia. It is probably not directly linked to a conflict zone but with


all this turmoil in the Middle East, that will raise questions about


whether we will see more of this illegal immigration. It also puts


the spotlight on how this happens. This is not just the odd truck


driver bringing over people stuffed in the back of a container, it is a


huge multi`billion`dollar trafficking industry linked to all


other kinds of organised crime and it needs a global response. We were


hearing from a correspondent earlier that the numbers coming over have


gone up on 11,000 to 18,000. And the French say it is a problem they


cannot contain on their side of the Channel. I'm just looking at the


front pages and thinking, have we ever seen an August like this? So


many events of huge magnitude happening. Whatever happened to the


silly season, the events we would normally be discussing at this time


of year. These stories have been grim human misery. Let's move on to


the Sunday Times. The front page has two quite contradictory stories in a


way. They may not be related. A big headline saying rise of the new


underclass costs ?30 billion. There are half a million problem families.


And then in the corner the governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney


saying we are to recovery. It is interesting. It is a huge issue of


exclusion and families who are falling through any kind of net. But


it is also interesting how the story is cast. It is costing us ?30


billion but it is costing these families their whole futures. It


would be interesting to see how people end up in this position.


There was fascination with Benefit Street, the Channel 4 documentary a


few months ago but I would like to see more reporting on the ground


about how this happens. And the measures that are taken. The story


says there is some success with a group of families where they have


managed to get the children to go to school and improve their health. It


is almost a good news story. You do not need to stay on benefits street,


you do not need to become a bee sent helpless, we can help you. I am


fascinated by the story about us being halfway to recovery. The


Governor of the Bank of England appears to speak in riddles. He has


been called the bad boyfriend because you cannot work out what he


means. Earlier in the week it did not seem like he was suggesting that


things were that good. Wages were not rising and increasing interest


rates would be delayed. Now he is saying we are half way there.


Interest rates might possibly go up. I am as confused as ever. I know


central bankers like to be men of mystery that this one is perhaps


overdoing it in my view. Do you agree? It is the classic metaphor,


halfway to wear? Give us some numbers. Whatever the finish line, I


love that expression. Halfway to what, we do not know. Nearly there


but who can tell. That is it from The Papers. We will be back at


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