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1 driver. And, all the latest injuries from Rafael Nadal and David

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Weir. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. Joining me

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from Glasgow is Richard Walker, editor of the Sunday Herald, and in

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the studio I am joined by Tourcuil Crichton, Westminster editor of the

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Daily Record. Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Daily

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Telegraph, which says the PM could give grandparents who look after

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children the same rights to paid leave as parents, if they've become

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primary carers. The Financial Times gives details of the multi`million

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pound fine the government's had to pay for the early termination of a

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contract with an American company providing the electronic border

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control system. The Guardian leads on the same story, calling it a

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fiasco. The paper also says female bosses earn more than a third less

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than their male counterparts. The Daily Mail also goes with border

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issues. It claims that 20 million people arrive or leave without

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proper checks. The Times has a different lead. It claims that

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nearly half of GPs give patient antibiotics to get them out of the

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surgery door. The Daily Mirror takes a different perspective on Iraq,

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with one former SAS soldier calling for jihadists to be dealt with in

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Iraq before they reach Britain. With a month to go until the Scottish

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Referendum, The Scotsman says Alex Salmond is drumming up Yes votes by

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echoing a declaration once made by Robert the Bruce. And the Herald

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pictures the Scottish First Minister taking aim on the bowling green.

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It's lead story says he's attacking those people who are questioning his

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currency proposals. We will talk about all the latest twists and

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turns over the debate in Scotland. First, we will start with the Daily

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Mirror. SAS must wipe out British jihadists, as they will return to

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the UK and cause comment. This warning comes from Chris Ryan, a

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former SAS man. Will it be that easy? It is clearly not going to be

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that easy. This is a mess largely of our own making. There is no public

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support for boots on the ground, as it is termed. But there was very

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little public support last time and look what happened. I think we have

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to be cynical about our leaders who tell us that they are not going to

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put troops in, because we have a long history of doing just that.

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David Cameron, not so long ago, was telling us that the main thrust of

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our efforts in Iraq would be humanitarian. That is clearly no

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longer the case. We have already had such Villa so`called mission creep,

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how much more will we have? I think it would be disastrous to send

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troops in again. There was no strategy of what we wanted to

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achieve their last time, and we have no strategy now for what our

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long`term aims are apart from the admittedly laudable aim of stopping

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slaughter. The Daily Mirror and its front page with Chris Ryan, he is

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talking about special forces, SAS. We know, or we understand, that

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there are British special forces on the ground in Iraq. Some would say

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that the tragedy of the situation in Iraq is that when we went in under

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Tony Blair, that wasn't the right time to go in. This is now

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potentially the right time, there is no public appetite because of the

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mess that was caused before. The long shadow of 2003 prevent any

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politician of this generation going out of `` prevents any politician of

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this generation from going in. They are going out of their way to say

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they won't. This story brings it home, in a way. No one confirms or

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denies whether the SAS is involved, but this veteran has called for the

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SAS to go in to target and kill these 500 or so British recruited

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jihadists, who are fighting for the Islamic State. I suppose if you kill

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them there, they can't come and kill you hear when they come back. It is

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also terrifying in terms of extrajudicial killing, like the

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Gibraltar killings of the IRA, the government sending assassins

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overseas to do dirty work, and it really doesn't talk to the decision

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at all. But it talks to the dilemma, this is a big threat. It

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won't go away, because of the talk about their religion and their

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ethnicity, that is why they are being slaughtered. As David Cameron

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said, it will require a military solution. Military assets, but not

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necessarily boots on the ground. The Pope seems to think the Iraq mission

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is a good one for Western countries. Particularly given the persecution

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that is clearly being meted out to some Christian minorities. It has

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taken him some time to enter the debate, but yes, he has said that.

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He has said that all measures need to be taken to stop the slaughter.

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He stopped short of supporting military action, and he is

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equivocating a bit on that. Nobody would disagree that everything has

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to be done to save lives, for humanitarian purposes, but I think

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there are difficult questions to answer and decisions to be taken.

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The Pope hasn't yet really come to terms with them, and said what he

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believes the right course of action will be. I think that is true not

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just of the Pope but of every Western leader. David Cameron gave a

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broad hint of having to be involved and engaged, and then he has gone

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away to Cornwall for a week. And humanitarian mission, not involving

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troops on the ground. The argument is that he doesn't need to be here.

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It is not just that, it is protecting these people because

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their lives are at risk simply because of who they are. A quarter

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of Iraq's Christians are on the run from ISIS, and that is a generation

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of people being prosecuted because of their religion, and it requires a

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bigger response. If you don't respond, you are seen as walking by

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the other side. I don't think the world can afford to do that. Let's

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go to the Times. An independent Scotland has no guarantee of a place

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in Nato. This is the times. `` this is the Times. You might suggest that

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is the kind of scaremongering that is putting people off. Is there any

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credence to this story? There may be. It is the head of Nato who has

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said this. I think he has said that we would need to apply again for it.

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He doesn't say what country would object, and it is hard to see any

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reason for a member of Nato to object. At the very question of Nato

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membership is very divisive within the independence movement itself. It

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was divisive for the SNP when they agreed to support Nato membership.

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There are many people who wouldn't shed many tears if we weren't

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allowed in Nato. That is a good point, isn't it? The SNP changed its

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policy. It had changed its policy, I think its heart was still anti`

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Nato, anti` nuclear. That is part of the modern nationalism. Richard said

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no Nato member would object, why would they? I can see the rest of

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the UK and the US objecting in Scotland didn't agree to keep the

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Clyde a nuclear deterrent, on the Clyde. If Scotland goes it alone,

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and then begins to negotiate its terms of partnership with the rest

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of the UK, or it terms of partnership with Europe or the rest

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of the world, that card would be placed against it. You can do

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whatever you want, when you have the weapons. There are Nato members that

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are not nuclear powers. There are plenty. Surely, that would be a red

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line for Alex Salmond, wouldn't it? They wouldn't say, let's keep

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Trident so we can get into Nato, are they? No, they wouldn't. But any

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reasons forth staying part of Nato have been entirely cooked up in the

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last three minutes. It is not, because it has been talked about by

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defence strategist in the UK government for a long long time.

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Should tell viewers, Richard, it you used to be his boss. I was,

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sometimes I wish I still was. The Scotsman. Alex Salmond uses the

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spirit of Bruce to drum up support. Explain all this for us. Well, for

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me and many people in favour of independence, it is more about the

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future than the past. The Robert the Bruce allusions have an audience and

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resonance for some people, but for me, it is more about the future. I

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think the aspirations set out seemed to me very strong aspirations and a

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strong blueprint for the kind of country we want to live in. The

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Labour Party south of the border has expressed its great concern about

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the erosion of the NHS and privatisation. Creating a culture of

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fear in schools, and protecting vulnerable people from things like

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the bedroom tax that have been imposed on them `` imposed on them

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in the name of austerity. But, we are not showing two fingers to

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Westminster, it is not a personal thing, I don't know why some people

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say they are taking it to heart. We want control of our own money and

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our own Parliament. OK. The problem with that is that it is the sterling

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that Alex Salmond wants, so it is not control of your own money. Is

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this an appeal to the heart invoking Mr Bruce? Is it a start of the push

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to sentiment Scots, can not lose this historic moment. Yes, we are

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one month out, 30 days, this is the emotional beginning. If you look at

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your history, I know history is important, but if you look at

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history from a nationalistic point of view, this was Scotland's first

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declaration of nationhood. Alternatively, you can look at it as

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the struggle of power and control, with the 50 barons deciding they

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wanted to control Scotland's destiny instead of the King of England. And

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that continued through the 13th and 14th and 15th centuries. This will

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be appealing to the emotional side of the debate. We are almost

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exhausted talking about the pound, defence, currency, borders, it is

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now about how much he loved Scotland, and that is what is trying

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to into. I think the aspiration thing about protecting the

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vulnerable and saving the NHS from privatisation, is a complete canard.

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He himself described it as a desperate act by a desperate man.

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The truth is that the NHS is no more under threat today than it was last

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year. It is completely devolved and run by the Scottish government. The

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last story. The front page of the Guardian. Female bosses apparently

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earn 35% less than women. `` mail bosses. It continues to happen in

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the UK, and there is no justification for it. There is

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legislation that stops it, so it is unclear why we are not prosecuting

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companies that pay female bosses less than their male counterparts.

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How has coming out in favour of independent effect of the

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circulation of the Sunday Herald? Our figures should be published in

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the next few weeks. They will be for the first six months of the year,

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and remember also that we did not declare support for independence

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until the beginning of May, so although six months only two months

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are post declaration. A lot of caveats in their. I'm about to the

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answer to your question... The Sunday Herald got a boost from the

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independence front cover. It is clear that marking your position

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when you are a small... Would you like me to answer the question. We

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expect to see a small rise in circulation. Richard, it is good to

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see you. Good to have you both. Stay with us. More coming up on the

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top of the hour. Now it is time for Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm John

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