12/09/2014 The Papers


12/09/2014

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Oscar Pistorius. Rugby Union, five matches to talk about and all that

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and more in 15 minutes. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are

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Sue Matthias, Editor of the Financial Times Weekend Magazine and

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political journalist, Rob Merrick. Thank you for being here. Tomorrow's

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front pages, starting with... The Daily Mail leads on a warning from

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the SNP's former deputy leader that Scottish banks will be broken up and

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oil giant BP nationalised to punish them for backing the No campaign.

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The FT has the same story, and says the Better Together campaign claims

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the threats show the ugly side of their rivals.

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The Guardian has a new poll which suggests that the gap between the

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yes and no camps is still just 2% of voters but seventeen percent are

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saying they don't know. The Scotsman says the poll is on a knife edge

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with anticipations of a turnout of 88% for the vote. The Times reports

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that fears about the referendum vote have triggered the biggest sell`off

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of British investments since the collapse of the Wall Street Bank,

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Lehman brothers in 2008. The Independent carries a dramatic

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portrait of Ian Paisley, who's died at the age of 88. The Daily Record

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devotes part of its front page to Oscar Pistorius's conviction for

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shooting and killing his girlfriend but says the Paralympian may never

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go to prison. And The Mirror leads on the news that animal lovers have

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raised over one million pounds for the dogs home in Manchester that was

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badly damaged by a suspected arson attack. So now will talk about this

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one, the fact that this menacing intervention as it is described by

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the Daily Mail is coming from the former deputy leader of the SNP.

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This will not be helpful for the Yes campaign. Of course not. I work at

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Westminster and I have seen many of my colleagues had to `` go to

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Scotland in the last few days and these sorts of things have been

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thrown around. The idea that companies will need to bend to their

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knee to a greater power. Key is that the SNP's former deputy leader is

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being talked of here. I don't think Alex Salmond will be trying to drive

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the oil companies out of Scotland. I think what we will see, is more of

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this before the end of the referendum campaign is through. This

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does give the No campaign some more ammunition to say that businesses

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are safe in an independent Scotland. They are already saying

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that this shows how ugly it has got. I think so and the language is

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getting more heated on each side. It is happening day by day and you sort

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of wonder where it will end up. When we get to the vote, what rhetoric is

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going to be used. I noticed this quote from a leading Scottish banker

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earlier this week who was saying, what is next? A plague of locusts

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descending on Scotland? I think the issue really is that everybody needs

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to calm down slightly and take a more sober stock of the situation. I

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think the background picture is that, there is going to be

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uncertainty about the financial future of Scotland. Uncertainty in

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all sorts of ways. What would more devolution look like in the event of

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a No vote and how easy would it be to break the union up in the event

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of a Yes vote? It would be very interesting from a journalistic

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point of view. Let's look at this one. Five days to go. A number one

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German bank warns that a Yes vote would trigger a new depression. They

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are warning that it would be a big mistake for the world economy since

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the decision would have global ramifications. That is cataclysmic.

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We are talking about this intervention from bankers and

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leaders of large retail chains and, the fact is, the only thing that is

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really certain is that uncertainty. There is nothing economist hates

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more than uncertainty `` economists hate more. You may possibly have a

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self`fulfilling prophecy. There is no doubt that it will be a big cost

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to Scotland. The people of Scotland must recognise that data is not a

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scare story. It is a big leap from that to another great procession,

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however. They may wonder at the bank saying that since the banks caused

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the recession in the first place. There is the ability of political

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organizations to stand on their own and that is the argument. What will

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make the difference? If someone doesn't know which way to vote or

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whether to vote at all in the next few days, what will encourage them?

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Is it scare tactics? You just wonder which way it will make people go. I

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think if I was a Scottish voter right now, I would have probably

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been a little bit fed up with the general tone of the argument and the

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debate. The tone coming from south of the border in particular. The No

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campaign has been criticized for being too negative and failing to

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paint a positive emotional vision of why we should be a union. I think

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the Prime Minister tried to do it but for me, it didn't work. It is

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like he is clinging to the ankle of a wife who is marching out the door

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yelling" Please stay! " . If they only need a few voters to get over

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the edge... They are expecting 88% turnout and 98% registered. When you

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think of how dismal the turnout is formed collections in the UK `` for

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elections in the UK. You would think it was the end of the world. The

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gloves are off now. Many comments saying that everyone needs to stick

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together. A great deal of comments on social media as we have seen in

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the last few weeks to stop the Guardian. This shows the No vote is

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in front but only by two points. Just a couple of percentage points

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one way or the other depending on which poll you read. We both work at

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in newspapers and we know there has to be a momentum but the polls don't

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really say that. They are all nearly identical. What they tell us is that

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nobody is significantly up or down in the last few days. It is

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impossible to call. This is seen as good for the No campaign but it

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could be a disaster. It will go down to the wire. 17% of people on this

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poll don't know how to vote and it could be in their hands. Absolutely

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and many of them are very young voters. What difference might not

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make? `` might that make? It will be on a knife edge and it will be

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interesting to see what happens in the next few days if the whole

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temperature cools down. You might get a little more clarity. It is so

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important. The consequences are so great in the consequences are so

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great interview of George Osborne, whichever way it goes, that he has

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decided to call off the trip to the G 20 in Australia. It seems that no

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one has taken it very seriously until these last few weeks. When the

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Prime Minister came back from holiday, he was even asked if he had

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actually watched the second debate and he didn't even watch it. There

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was football on that night. I was watching it but I thought the Prime

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Minister might have paid attention. Away from the Scottish referendum. A

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look at the Sun. Emblazoned across the front page. Oscar Teets justice

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is how the Sun sees what has happened in Pretoria today ``

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cheats. He has been cleared of the murder of Reeva Steenkamp. Finding

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him guilty of culpable homicide. Not a verdict we would ever have here.

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Something close to manslaughter. The suggestion is that it is injustice

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but he is still guilty of a very serious crime and could face

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prison. We don't know what is going to happen to him. The sentence could

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be anything from 15 years in jail to a fine or community service in which

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case he would walk free. If it is the latter, there will be an

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uproar. It is not going to convince people either way. I think there is

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overwhelming disbelief that he got off with culpable homicide. The

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judge seems to think that he could not have reasonably known that the

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person on the other side would be killed, on the other side of the

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door. For premeditated, he would have had to... It would imply that

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he fired shots knowing that he was firing at her and intending to kill

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her. Am I right about that? That was never approved. `` proved. The judge

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accepted that he firmly believed it was an intruder behind the door but

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the fact that he fired four shots is what gives the most Emmys. `` the

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most unease. What would the reaction be in South Africa if he got off

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completely? Goodness. I can't imagine. He is still he is only 27.

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It also draws attention to how much gun use there is in South Africa.

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Absolutely. And also, he is a very rich celebrity. A contrast is being

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drawn between a sports star in South Africa who was driving while high on

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drugs and killed some people. He got 25 years in jail for murder. Moving

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on. Talking about the other story on the front of the Sun. Not just the

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story but the way they have framed it. The pictures they have used.

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After arsonists killed 53, give a dog a home. There was a fire, 50

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dogs were killed and ?1 million poured in over the last 24 hours for

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this. You take issue with the way the Sun has done this. I did. I

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recall being on this programme not very long ago when we were

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discussing that evening, the Ukraine air disaster. It was the day after.

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And, the presentation was exactly the same, showing the victims of

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that awful tragedy and naming them, presenting them. And the Sun has

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done the same thing with dogs. There may be a difference between a front

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page that makes people feel uncomfortable but is effective and

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one that spurs positive action. People may be wondering which dog

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they would like to adopt. Hopefully they all find homes. That's it for

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The Papers this hour. Thank you Sue Matthias, Editor of the

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Times Weekend Magazine and political journalist Rob Merrick. Tributes are

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being paid to the Ian Paisley who has died at age 88. But coming up

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next it's time for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday, I'm

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Lizzie Greenwood`Hughes. The headlines this evening: Yorkshire

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wind their first County Championship title for 13 years. St Helens have

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to wait to find out if they'll wind Super League's Leaders' Shield after

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narrowly losing tonight.

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