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Hello and welcome to our look at what the the papers will be

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Here to discuss them are Mihir Bose from the London Evening Standard,

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Before we plunge in, let's take a look at what you might call the

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headlines of the headlines, starting with The Independent, which says

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Jeremy Corbyn has 'gone to war' with the head of the military after the

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Chief of the Defence Staff questioned Mr Corbyn's stance

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Metro has the same story as its lead.

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The Telegraph says General Sir Nicholas Houghton's comments were

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The Express reports that millions of people could get

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a tax windfall due to new benefits being launched in April.

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The FT leads on Saudi Arabia's oil policy, saying it is determined to

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continue pumping enough oil to protect its global market share.

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The i says airlines and tour operators are defying the

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Foreign Office by offering flights and holidays to Sharm el-Sheikh,

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The Times focuses on Europe, reporting that the Prime Minister

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might be prepared to hold the referendum on Britain's

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membership of the EU in June, if other leaders agree to

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The Guardian also looks at Mr Cameron's EU demands but says top

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diplomats are warning that Britain is losing its clout overseas.

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Let's begin our review with the Sun. When one should bow, and how far? I

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can't say this, because apparently it is quite rude, but if you are on

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social media there is a handy explainer of how much you should and

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should not bowel. Every inch of it means something. I think he falls

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between, unacceptable versus outright dangerous -- bow. A

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Communist? He may well be. The Sun says he does nodded. I think if you

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look at the angle of his neck, it looks about 45 to 60 degrees.

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Probably his neck muscles... I'm not his doctor, I don't know. Can he not

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bowel any further? He might be suffering. -- bow. You could do it

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Lebanese style and go down with a hard. Or in China, you could count

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it out. Why does the Psion think this is a front-page lead? -- the

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Sun? This is a man of the left, who doesn't believe in nuclear weapon.

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And he is a Republican as well. -- weapons. This would be an historic

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moment to label him and get that one picture, and say, Jeremy Corbyn

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could never become Prime Minister because he doesn't pay in of

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respect. Do you think this is the kind of image that will haunt him?

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His advisers properly thought they did quite well. He has a red poppy

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on, a tired... -- tie. It is interesting to see how far this

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backlash will go and at what point it. Yielding. It may reach a point,

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it might finally lead to his burnout but it may well be that people do

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stop caring about it -- what point it might stop yielding. It is

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possible, but I think this picture will be endless. It's a bit like the

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duffle coat issue. Whatever it was, that pig, David Miller bed eating a

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banana? The bacon sandwich? -- that picture. Those images become

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iconic. I wonder how much it will hold, there has also been a shift.

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If the press were to yield that sort of benefit, I don't think you would

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be where he is. We had a whole summer of all kinds ridiculous

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stories. Where will it stop? It will be interesting to see. I'm not sure

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if this is actually benefiting or harming the people who are trying

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it. Jeremy Corbyn, pictures from Sunday, the wonderful picture on the

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front of The Guardian with Tony Blair framed over his shoulder. He

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almost looks like he knows there is something going on. It is about the

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relationship between politicians. They politicians of the same party,

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you don't see Tony Blair's hand holding a knife. The other story is

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Jeremy Corbyn complaining that the chief of the defence staff has

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criticised his position on nuclear weapons. The Shadow Defence

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Secretary. Nevertheless, I think he is making a very good point. Jeremy

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Corbyn is the elected member whether you like it or not, he is the Labour

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Party elected leader. The chief of the defence staff is not an elected

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official, he is not meant to take public positions in defiance or

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against the elected person. If he thinks that the defensive role would

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be in danger if Jeremy Corbyn came into power, one might argue it is

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his moral duty to say something to do it goes back to be civil war. --

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realm. -- the. Intervention by serving military personnel is

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immoral because it stops the principle of elected officials. To

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actually question the constitutional principle, I think it has been one

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of his smarter moves. I think he has bumbled and not quite gotten it

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right, a bit shambolic. This is one of the first hallmark is that he

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might be growing into the leader of the opposition with all the politics

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that it involves. Basically you think on this, Jeremy Corbyn is in

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the right and the general is in the wrong? Listening to him, for the

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first time Jeremy Corbyn founded not like a backbench MP who was always

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rebelling. He actually sounded like the leader for the first time.

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Whether he has been tutored about how to speak, or... There was some

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authority there. Before that, Jeremy Cobham look like he was surprised to

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have found himself leader of the Labour Party. I think it will point

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to some interesting things in the future. Something that may be coming

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up soon which Jeremy Corbyn will have to take a stand on is the EU

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referendum. We could have it as soon as next summer? According to guess,

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yes. As soon as June -- this. Potentially another migration crisis

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this summer, they want to get out of the way before that. David Cameron

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has now clearly linked it, he has talked about being part of the EU

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not only as economic security but national security. There is suddenly

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a quick shift, I think it is him deciding that, maybe this has gone a

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bit too far. He needs to be pulled back and maybe needs to fall into

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line. On Tuesday, we will get the letter publicly setting out for the

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first time what it is David Cameron wants from this negotiation. And the

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Minister is trying to stop the advance of the people who want to

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leave, a considerable number in his own party. People are saying

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whatever you come back with, it won't be good enough. We will have

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to leave. I think for the first time, he is trying to stop the

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movement. The out lobby has had the best of the argument. They have made

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a watt of headway. This is the first time that it is not just an economic

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argument. He is saying there is a wider picture of where Britain

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stands in the world -- lot. I think he is trying to position himself

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differently. Be patriotically -- the patriotic thing to stay, is his

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ankle. It leads him to a peace the Guardian has, one of the points they

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make is that working with Europe is a necessary component of nearly

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every area of policy -- links him to a piece. It says, what would happen

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if Britain walked away, not just in terms of the economics but in its

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clout in the world? Britain is going to be facing him. India and China

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also, according to a BBC report we are not even in the top ten of

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India's trading partners. Would that be different if we were not in the

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EU? The way Britain has handled its Indian relationship, this

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combination of nostalgia and things like that has not gone over. We had

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this Indian Summer Series which suggested that people -- if people

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had slept with the Indians, perhaps it could be different. Britain needs

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to move away from their current position. We have a story later in

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the evening, potentially it was the Welsh who taught the Indians how to

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speak? Surely I sound like a Welshman. I was told it was Welsh

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Presbyterian ministers who had gone and taught English. An Indian who

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came here once was very offended when a Welsh friend of mine would

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not talk to him. He said, why are you making fun of my accent? We got

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diverted. Looking at the Financial Times, tax credits. Has George

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Osborne found a way out of his self imposed poll was -- hole? It was a

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battle of choice, it did not need to happen. What happens is that if he

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does take the U-turn, if he says we have money... He has the money, it

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suggested, because of low -- lower interest rates -- it's. You have is

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determined leader who will be an eye and love. Gordon Brown? It is not

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just an economic point, but an ideological one. It will be

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interesting to see what happens -- iron leader. It would be interesting

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to see what happens. Apparently has -- he has about ?2 million to

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distribute. This is a story we all like. I will not try to pronounce

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this name. A particular street, the post office is now refusing to

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deliver mail because a dog has bitten a postwoman. They are not

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delivering to the entire street. Is the dog covering the entire street?

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I take a stand against Royal Mail on this one. I like dogs, but I also

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think this is a basic question of collective punishment. You cannot

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punish the entire street. You can't go up and down the street.

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Worryingly, Christmas is coming, there will be a watt of post. Thank

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you both for making our paper review so enjoyable this evening. More on

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the papers at the same time tomorrow. Thank you for your

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company. Coming up next, the Film Review.

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