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Hello and welcome to our look at what the the papers will be


Here to discuss them are Mihir Bose from the London Evening Standard,


Before we plunge in, let's take a look at what you might call the


headlines of the headlines, starting with The Independent, which says


Jeremy Corbyn has 'gone to war' with the head of the military after the


Chief of the Defence Staff questioned Mr Corbyn's stance


Metro has the same story as its lead.


The Telegraph says General Sir Nicholas Houghton's comments were


The Express reports that millions of people could get


a tax windfall due to new benefits being launched in April.


The FT leads on Saudi Arabia's oil policy, saying it is determined to


continue pumping enough oil to protect its global market share.


The i says airlines and tour operators are defying the


Foreign Office by offering flights and holidays to Sharm el-Sheikh,


The Times focuses on Europe, reporting that the Prime Minister


might be prepared to hold the referendum on Britain's


membership of the EU in June, if other leaders agree to


The Guardian also looks at Mr Cameron's EU demands but says top


diplomats are warning that Britain is losing its clout overseas.


Let's begin our review with the Sun. When one should bow, and how far? I


can't say this, because apparently it is quite rude, but if you are on


social media there is a handy explainer of how much you should and


should not bowel. Every inch of it means something. I think he falls


between, unacceptable versus outright dangerous -- bow. A


Communist? He may well be. The Sun says he does nodded. I think if you


look at the angle of his neck, it looks about 45 to 60 degrees.


Probably his neck muscles... I'm not his doctor, I don't know. Can he not


bowel any further? He might be suffering. -- bow. You could do it


Lebanese style and go down with a hard. Or in China, you could count


it out. Why does the Psion think this is a front-page lead? -- the


Sun? This is a man of the left, who doesn't believe in nuclear weapon.


And he is a Republican as well. -- weapons. This would be an historic


moment to label him and get that one picture, and say, Jeremy Corbyn


could never become Prime Minister because he doesn't pay in of


respect. Do you think this is the kind of image that will haunt him?


His advisers properly thought they did quite well. He has a red poppy


on, a tired... -- tie. It is interesting to see how far this


backlash will go and at what point it. Yielding. It may reach a point,


it might finally lead to his burnout but it may well be that people do


stop caring about it -- what point it might stop yielding. It is


possible, but I think this picture will be endless. It's a bit like the


duffle coat issue. Whatever it was, that pig, David Miller bed eating a


banana? The bacon sandwich? -- that picture. Those images become


iconic. I wonder how much it will hold, there has also been a shift.


If the press were to yield that sort of benefit, I don't think you would


be where he is. We had a whole summer of all kinds ridiculous


stories. Where will it stop? It will be interesting to see. I'm not sure


if this is actually benefiting or harming the people who are trying


it. Jeremy Corbyn, pictures from Sunday, the wonderful picture on the


front of The Guardian with Tony Blair framed over his shoulder. He


almost looks like he knows there is something going on. It is about the


relationship between politicians. They politicians of the same party,


you don't see Tony Blair's hand holding a knife. The other story is


Jeremy Corbyn complaining that the chief of the defence staff has


criticised his position on nuclear weapons. The Shadow Defence


Secretary. Nevertheless, I think he is making a very good point. Jeremy


Corbyn is the elected member whether you like it or not, he is the Labour


Party elected leader. The chief of the defence staff is not an elected


official, he is not meant to take public positions in defiance or


against the elected person. If he thinks that the defensive role would


be in danger if Jeremy Corbyn came into power, one might argue it is


his moral duty to say something to do it goes back to be civil war. --


realm. -- the. Intervention by serving military personnel is


immoral because it stops the principle of elected officials. To


actually question the constitutional principle, I think it has been one


of his smarter moves. I think he has bumbled and not quite gotten it


right, a bit shambolic. This is one of the first hallmark is that he


might be growing into the leader of the opposition with all the politics


that it involves. Basically you think on this, Jeremy Corbyn is in


the right and the general is in the wrong? Listening to him, for the


first time Jeremy Corbyn founded not like a backbench MP who was always


rebelling. He actually sounded like the leader for the first time.


Whether he has been tutored about how to speak, or... There was some


authority there. Before that, Jeremy Cobham look like he was surprised to


have found himself leader of the Labour Party. I think it will point


to some interesting things in the future. Something that may be coming


up soon which Jeremy Corbyn will have to take a stand on is the EU


referendum. We could have it as soon as next summer? According to guess,


yes. As soon as June -- this. Potentially another migration crisis


this summer, they want to get out of the way before that. David Cameron


has now clearly linked it, he has talked about being part of the EU


not only as economic security but national security. There is suddenly


a quick shift, I think it is him deciding that, maybe this has gone a


bit too far. He needs to be pulled back and maybe needs to fall into


line. On Tuesday, we will get the letter publicly setting out for the


first time what it is David Cameron wants from this negotiation. And the


Minister is trying to stop the advance of the people who want to


leave, a considerable number in his own party. People are saying


whatever you come back with, it won't be good enough. We will have


to leave. I think for the first time, he is trying to stop the


movement. The out lobby has had the best of the argument. They have made


a watt of headway. This is the first time that it is not just an economic


argument. He is saying there is a wider picture of where Britain


stands in the world -- lot. I think he is trying to position himself


differently. Be patriotically -- the patriotic thing to stay, is his


ankle. It leads him to a peace the Guardian has, one of the points they


make is that working with Europe is a necessary component of nearly


every area of policy -- links him to a piece. It says, what would happen


if Britain walked away, not just in terms of the economics but in its


clout in the world? Britain is going to be facing him. India and China


also, according to a BBC report we are not even in the top ten of


India's trading partners. Would that be different if we were not in the


EU? The way Britain has handled its Indian relationship, this


combination of nostalgia and things like that has not gone over. We had


this Indian Summer Series which suggested that people -- if people


had slept with the Indians, perhaps it could be different. Britain needs


to move away from their current position. We have a story later in


the evening, potentially it was the Welsh who taught the Indians how to


speak? Surely I sound like a Welshman. I was told it was Welsh


Presbyterian ministers who had gone and taught English. An Indian who


came here once was very offended when a Welsh friend of mine would


not talk to him. He said, why are you making fun of my accent? We got


diverted. Looking at the Financial Times, tax credits. Has George


Osborne found a way out of his self imposed poll was -- hole? It was a


battle of choice, it did not need to happen. What happens is that if he


does take the U-turn, if he says we have money... He has the money, it


suggested, because of low -- lower interest rates -- it's. You have is


determined leader who will be an eye and love. Gordon Brown? It is not


just an economic point, but an ideological one. It will be


interesting to see what happens -- iron leader. It would be interesting


to see what happens. Apparently has -- he has about ?2 million to


distribute. This is a story we all like. I will not try to pronounce


this name. A particular street, the post office is now refusing to


deliver mail because a dog has bitten a postwoman. They are not


delivering to the entire street. Is the dog covering the entire street?


I take a stand against Royal Mail on this one. I like dogs, but I also


think this is a basic question of collective punishment. You cannot


punish the entire street. You can't go up and down the street.


Worryingly, Christmas is coming, there will be a watt of post. Thank


you both for making our paper review so enjoyable this evening. More on


the papers at the same time tomorrow. Thank you for your


company. Coming up next, the Film Review.


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