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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

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With me are Jo Phillips, the political commentator.

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And Nigel Nelson, political editor of the Sunday People.

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The Independent on Sunday leads with claims that Jeremy Corbyn

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is planning to fast-track changes to party policy on Trident.

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School discipline is the lead in the Observer, which claims

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the Prime Minister is to suggest that parents should have a say

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in how their children are disciplined.

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The front of the Sunday Times also carries a photo of the suspect

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Arthur Simpson-Kent, but its main story is about the junior doctors

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The doctors' strike is also the lead in the Telegraph,

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with the Health Secretary claiming the walk-out could hit A units.

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And finally the Sun splashes with allegations about the private

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life of the singer Cheryl Fernandez-Versini.

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Let's begin. The Sunday Telegraph. Doctors told strike will harm

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patients. The Health Secretary makes a last-minute appeal. That it could

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force wards to close. It is stating the obvious. The doctors' strike

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going ahead on Tuesday and several thousand operations have been

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cancelled already and at this time of year the NHS is under pressure

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and I suppose you would not expect Jeremy Hunt would not do anything

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else other than put out a last-ditch appeal saying, please do not go on

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strike. Within the last week, suggestions the Chief Medical

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Officer was involved in a letter that went past the Department of

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Health and Jeremy Hunt, which I do not find surprising, because you

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would expect it to be cleared by the Department. You have the BMA and

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government on a collision course. One problem, if you look at the last

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30 years, what sort of people we trust, we trust doctors. Jeremy Hunt

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knows this and he knows we do not trust journalists in general and we

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don't trust politicians, that is part of the problem. He has a

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presentational problem because we love doctors. He has a practical

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problem in the way he went about doing it. I am behind him about the

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idea of a seven-day NHS. Saturday and Sunday should be no different

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from other days. The NHS should not be run for the convenience of

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doctors, but patients, that is fine, but it needs funding. You do not

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make changes and say to the doctor, we will give you a pay rise, but you

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will actually lose money. Because they can add up! It has to go back

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to the whole of the health service. This strike is about hospital

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doctors, junior doctors. I agree, people trust doctors. I am not sure

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the public supports them going on strike. Unless you get GP surgeries

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also doing seven days a week, and this idea of the Labour Party, the

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Labour government brought in when doctors could opt out and bring in a

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locum, doctors have had it easy, particularly at GP practices. And

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they are paid well. 100,000 plus for GPs. We expect the police and fire

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brigade and Ambulance Service to do a seven-day week. We will move on

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because the Sunday Times has a different aspect. The Labour hard

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left to pick out hospitals. This is as they put it, Jeremy Corbyn's hard

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left supporters, talking about can -- Momentum, and the relationship of

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the Labour Party. Momentum is telling members to go along and

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support the striking doctors and go to picket lines. This would not be

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secondary picketing, because that is illegal, but to go along to take a

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cup of tea, to support them. This will not be helpful to Jeremy Corbyn

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and the Labour Party because it looks like this is the hard left and

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setting up the battle between doctors and government. What is

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interesting is Sally Davies, who has been busy this week telling us not

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to exceed 14 units! Especially on Tuesday! She is warning industrial

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action will endanger patient safety. Saying very sympathetic to the

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doctors, but please think again. There are two aspects, but again, to

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say that left-wing political activists will not support a strike

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against the government, of course they are. Why wouldn't they? It is a

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free country. If they support Jeremy Corbyn, Joe is right, do not turn

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up. They will get sympathy because they are doctors. The moment you get

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Momentum involved in shouting on picket lines, it becomes political.

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Keep the issue about pay and conditions, don't get into the

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politics. If Momentum turn up... You mean the first time somebody outside

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the hospital is CHANTING: Is out, they do support? I think it would be

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a mistake to do that. The issue is over their conditions. It could be

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any government they were having a go at, it is not party politics.

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Momentum turns up and it will not do Jeremy Corbyn any good. I spoke to a

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Jeremy Corbyn supporter who said every time the Presto stories like

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this about Jeremy Corbyn, among young people, who are disaffected

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about politics, he said they increased support for Jeremy Corbyn.

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Just getting people supporting you because you say something like,

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bring it on, it does not make you fit to lead the country or a

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political party. Instead of focusing on the issues where Labour would do

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a better job, as they should as the opposition, we have seen them focus

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on an appalling reshuffle. What did you call it? The night of the long

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forks! You are right, this thing about the picket line, if you look

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at the Labour conference last autumn, when journalists were being

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spat at and abused and people going into conference, the Tory

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conference. Will you turn up for your outpatients appointment and get

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shouted at? An interesting question. The Independent newspaper, fast

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track to ditching trident, basically manoeuvring to get an end to

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Trident, replacing Trident as Labour Party policy. A fast track to

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ditching Trident would involve getting elected! At the moment, when

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the vote comes up and there will be a vote on Trident replacement in the

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next few months and the chances are that Trident will be replaced

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because it will just carry through. This is a bit irrelevant, however,

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one thing Jeremy Corbyn needed to do from the Cabinet reshuffle... To do

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it would have been a start. To get it done in less than three days...

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Was to sort out the Trident issue. He has a shadow Secretary of State

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for Defence who is with him in scrapping Trident. This goes one

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stage further, the idea now is that he will let the national executive,

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which is Labour's ruling body, they will start making policy. They are

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sympathetic to Jeremy Corbyn so they will be against Trident also, and

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take it away from the Shadow Cabinet. Another row is coming up.

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All over this country, where people are worried about jobs and pay and

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flooding, somebody doing something at the national executive of

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something or other, it will not particularly... It may work in the

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party but will it get people'sfeet tapping? I do not. It is what you

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were saying earlier. This will take away the power from the

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Parliamentary Labour Party, elected MPs and Shadow Cabinet. It will give

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it to all of these people who apparently support Jeremy Corbyn

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hugely. Bearing in mind a lot of those people are former militants,

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who have rejoined the party. This is like turning back the clock, going

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back to the 1980s of composite motions, the NEC. You cannot govern

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the country with a national executive. Some people call it

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resolutionary. This is saying parents should take lessons in how

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to control children. This is probably a good idea. This

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is about families. The practical side is more parenting classes. Why

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not. Make it available to as many people as possible, it seems like a

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good idea. Double the funding to 70 million for relationship charities.

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Relate, Marriage Counselling, which will help people to stay together.

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It will help the children. That is the idea. In principle, it seems to

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me quite good on the basis that you are not forcing anyone to do it? His

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critics will say why did you get rid of sure start, but of the good

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things the Tony Blair government brought in and was seen as a great

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help, children's centres, which a lot have closed because they have

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lost funding. This is not the first time David Cameron has done this, he

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is big on family and society. In 2011, after the riots, the

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government invested a lot of money in a thing called a parent pilot, it

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was only a pilot, but 2900 people signed up, very few men. It with

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that on the vine. Somewhere along here, you either have to make it

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compulsory, which everybody would hate, or... Because the parents who

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perhaps most need it least likely to take it? I am sure there are a

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million teachers reading this, thinking that would be great, it

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might stop them turning up shoving chips through the door, parking on

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double yellow lines and moaning that children have homework to do. I

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wonder if parents are thinking, what we need is affordable childcare

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because that is a real problem when particularly both parents work. That

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is coming in. The Tories are not always wrong. We are getting

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affordable childcare. Something like antenatal classes, which are

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popular, why not extend that? When I was a parent of young children, I

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would have liked to know how to deal with toddlers. You were terrified!

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You just wanted an instruction book! This needs to be in schools, this

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needs to be part of education for children. It needs to be joined up.

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It needs to start with children in primary school, and then you learn

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to talk to your baby brother and sister. It is a bit late when people

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get to being parents, if they are not very good parents, or they are

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struggling, to have lessons. Interesting to see how it will

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develop. A story that caught my eye, given what we were discussing

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earlier. You should not drink anything at all except water,

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apparently! Landlords appealed to regulars, carry on drinking. They

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plan for UK pubs. Pub closures are soaring. And if we are told to drink

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less... And dry January, people who decide to binge over Christmas and

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go completely dry over January, according to one pub, every time you

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go dry for January, a bartender dies! I think that is a little over

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the top! I wonder how they encourage their customers to drink. Pubs have

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had a rough time, but if they are closing at the rate of 29 per week,

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it is difficult, but you cannot base health advice on whether the retail

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sector will suffer from it. You could make the same argument about

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smoking. Add chicken shops. What do you think about this? Talking about

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serving more coffee, but many pubs do that. It is tough. Hotel and

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catering, pubs, it is a top business and a lot of pubs have managed to

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survive because they have turned into gastropods, concentrating on

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food. It is not new. Drink-driving, the cost of transport, all of that.

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Cheaper supermarkets. People drinking more at home. Where I live,

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which is a town that used to have the highest number of pubs per

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capita, it is interesting. The traditional pubs, some of them are

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empty, but we have a booming trade in micro-pubs that are doing well.

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That tells you something about the relationship between pub landlords

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and the breweries. A lot of places struggle the cars... It is not the

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rent, it is the compulsory... Being tied to a brewery. I know a place

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where pubs have closed book two micro-pubs have opened, one of which

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has a wall on which mobile phones are nailed with six inch nails and

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there is a sign that you are not allowed to use your mobile phone in

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this pub, or you give money to charity. That is a niche market. All

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that is happening is that some inventive pub landlords are

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reinventing themselves. And some are not. There was a report during the

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week from Morgan Stanley that said people might stay alone because of

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fears of going abroad and terror and it may be if we have people staying

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here to have holidays, pubs might well do well in the summer. It

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happened in 2009, and people stated. This is from the Sunday Times,

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diabetes fear over Coca-Cola being cheaper than water. Talking about

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sugar and the question of sugar taxes coming back. I think there is

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going to be pressure on the government to look at this. I am not

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sure whether a sugar taxes the answer because there will be a

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complaint that it will hit poorer families harder. It seems to me what

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you need to do is encourage food manufacturers to use less sugar to

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start with, which goes back to things about salt and fat, with

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people saying they are now putting in less. You wonder why they did not

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to start with. This is quite a bit of research, that Coca-Cola drinks

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in a supermarket, their own brand, is cheaper than bottled water. It

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tells you something about bottled water, as well. It is like all of

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these stories, you can turn it into what you want. The biggest pressure

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on the health service, apart from the ageing population is diabetes,

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because of the knock-on effect and cost of that. A huge amount of the

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NHS budget. Apparently we will all get bodies like this model if we do

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not eat sugar! Next week, we will be doing this without clothes! You

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could look at minimum pricing. It seems ludicrous if you sell four

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litres of cola at 90p and minimum price might do it. They tried it

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with alcohol in Scotland, so why not do that? The Sunday Mirror has an

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exclusive, Cheryl Fernandez-Versini, I am getting a divorce. It is quite

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sad. She is popular with a lot of people. She will have to change her

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name stop the difficult surname will have to go and something different,

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maybe she will go back to her former name. What is interesting, she has

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?20 million, there is no prenuptial agreement, what happens to the

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money? The lawyers get it. That is what does not help with parenting.

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There are no children involved, but this celebrity, it is on, it is off,

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I have got bored with this person, I am getting rid of them. It does that

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help, it puts out the message that when you get fed up, you can go onto

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the next part. Thank you very much. A reminder that we take a look at

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