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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.


With me are Jo Phillips, the political commentator.


And Nigel Nelson, political editor of the Sunday People.


The Independent on Sunday leads with claims that Jeremy Corbyn


is planning to fast-track changes to party policy on Trident.


School discipline is the lead in the Observer, which claims


the Prime Minister is to suggest that parents should have a say


in how their children are disciplined.


The front of the Sunday Times also carries a photo of the suspect


Arthur Simpson-Kent, but its main story is about the junior doctors


The doctors' strike is also the lead in the Telegraph,


with the Health Secretary claiming the walk-out could hit A units.


And finally the Sun splashes with allegations about the private


life of the singer Cheryl Fernandez-Versini.


Let's begin. The Sunday Telegraph. Doctors told strike will harm


patients. The Health Secretary makes a last-minute appeal. That it could


force wards to close. It is stating the obvious. The doctors' strike


going ahead on Tuesday and several thousand operations have been


cancelled already and at this time of year the NHS is under pressure


and I suppose you would not expect Jeremy Hunt would not do anything


else other than put out a last-ditch appeal saying, please do not go on


strike. Within the last week, suggestions the Chief Medical


Officer was involved in a letter that went past the Department of


Health and Jeremy Hunt, which I do not find surprising, because you


would expect it to be cleared by the Department. You have the BMA and


government on a collision course. One problem, if you look at the last


30 years, what sort of people we trust, we trust doctors. Jeremy Hunt


knows this and he knows we do not trust journalists in general and we


don't trust politicians, that is part of the problem. He has a


presentational problem because we love doctors. He has a practical


problem in the way he went about doing it. I am behind him about the


idea of a seven-day NHS. Saturday and Sunday should be no different


from other days. The NHS should not be run for the convenience of


doctors, but patients, that is fine, but it needs funding. You do not


make changes and say to the doctor, we will give you a pay rise, but you


will actually lose money. Because they can add up! It has to go back


to the whole of the health service. This strike is about hospital


doctors, junior doctors. I agree, people trust doctors. I am not sure


the public supports them going on strike. Unless you get GP surgeries


also doing seven days a week, and this idea of the Labour Party, the


Labour government brought in when doctors could opt out and bring in a


locum, doctors have had it easy, particularly at GP practices. And


they are paid well. 100,000 plus for GPs. We expect the police and fire


brigade and Ambulance Service to do a seven-day week. We will move on


because the Sunday Times has a different aspect. The Labour hard


left to pick out hospitals. This is as they put it, Jeremy Corbyn's hard


left supporters, talking about can -- Momentum, and the relationship of


the Labour Party. Momentum is telling members to go along and


support the striking doctors and go to picket lines. This would not be


secondary picketing, because that is illegal, but to go along to take a


cup of tea, to support them. This will not be helpful to Jeremy Corbyn


and the Labour Party because it looks like this is the hard left and


setting up the battle between doctors and government. What is


interesting is Sally Davies, who has been busy this week telling us not


to exceed 14 units! Especially on Tuesday! She is warning industrial


action will endanger patient safety. Saying very sympathetic to the


doctors, but please think again. There are two aspects, but again, to


say that left-wing political activists will not support a strike


against the government, of course they are. Why wouldn't they? It is a


free country. If they support Jeremy Corbyn, Joe is right, do not turn


up. They will get sympathy because they are doctors. The moment you get


Momentum involved in shouting on picket lines, it becomes political.


Keep the issue about pay and conditions, don't get into the


politics. If Momentum turn up... You mean the first time somebody outside


the hospital is CHANTING: Is out, they do support? I think it would be


a mistake to do that. The issue is over their conditions. It could be


any government they were having a go at, it is not party politics.


Momentum turns up and it will not do Jeremy Corbyn any good. I spoke to a


Jeremy Corbyn supporter who said every time the Presto stories like


this about Jeremy Corbyn, among young people, who are disaffected


about politics, he said they increased support for Jeremy Corbyn.


Just getting people supporting you because you say something like,


bring it on, it does not make you fit to lead the country or a


political party. Instead of focusing on the issues where Labour would do


a better job, as they should as the opposition, we have seen them focus


on an appalling reshuffle. What did you call it? The night of the long


forks! You are right, this thing about the picket line, if you look


at the Labour conference last autumn, when journalists were being


spat at and abused and people going into conference, the Tory


conference. Will you turn up for your outpatients appointment and get


shouted at? An interesting question. The Independent newspaper, fast


track to ditching trident, basically manoeuvring to get an end to


Trident, replacing Trident as Labour Party policy. A fast track to


ditching Trident would involve getting elected! At the moment, when


the vote comes up and there will be a vote on Trident replacement in the


next few months and the chances are that Trident will be replaced


because it will just carry through. This is a bit irrelevant, however,


one thing Jeremy Corbyn needed to do from the Cabinet reshuffle... To do


it would have been a start. To get it done in less than three days...


Was to sort out the Trident issue. He has a shadow Secretary of State


for Defence who is with him in scrapping Trident. This goes one


stage further, the idea now is that he will let the national executive,


which is Labour's ruling body, they will start making policy. They are


sympathetic to Jeremy Corbyn so they will be against Trident also, and


take it away from the Shadow Cabinet. Another row is coming up.


All over this country, where people are worried about jobs and pay and


flooding, somebody doing something at the national executive of


something or other, it will not particularly... It may work in the


party but will it get people'sfeet tapping? I do not. It is what you


were saying earlier. This will take away the power from the


Parliamentary Labour Party, elected MPs and Shadow Cabinet. It will give


it to all of these people who apparently support Jeremy Corbyn


hugely. Bearing in mind a lot of those people are former militants,


who have rejoined the party. This is like turning back the clock, going


back to the 1980s of composite motions, the NEC. You cannot govern


the country with a national executive. Some people call it


resolutionary. This is saying parents should take lessons in how


to control children. This is probably a good idea. This


is about families. The practical side is more parenting classes. Why


not. Make it available to as many people as possible, it seems like a


good idea. Double the funding to 70 million for relationship charities.


Relate, Marriage Counselling, which will help people to stay together.


It will help the children. That is the idea. In principle, it seems to


me quite good on the basis that you are not forcing anyone to do it? His


critics will say why did you get rid of sure start, but of the good


things the Tony Blair government brought in and was seen as a great


help, children's centres, which a lot have closed because they have


lost funding. This is not the first time David Cameron has done this, he


is big on family and society. In 2011, after the riots, the


government invested a lot of money in a thing called a parent pilot, it


was only a pilot, but 2900 people signed up, very few men. It with


that on the vine. Somewhere along here, you either have to make it


compulsory, which everybody would hate, or... Because the parents who


perhaps most need it least likely to take it? I am sure there are a


million teachers reading this, thinking that would be great, it


might stop them turning up shoving chips through the door, parking on


double yellow lines and moaning that children have homework to do. I


wonder if parents are thinking, what we need is affordable childcare


because that is a real problem when particularly both parents work. That


is coming in. The Tories are not always wrong. We are getting


affordable childcare. Something like antenatal classes, which are


popular, why not extend that? When I was a parent of young children, I


would have liked to know how to deal with toddlers. You were terrified!


You just wanted an instruction book! This needs to be in schools, this


needs to be part of education for children. It needs to be joined up.


It needs to start with children in primary school, and then you learn


to talk to your baby brother and sister. It is a bit late when people


get to being parents, if they are not very good parents, or they are


struggling, to have lessons. Interesting to see how it will


develop. A story that caught my eye, given what we were discussing


earlier. You should not drink anything at all except water,


apparently! Landlords appealed to regulars, carry on drinking. They


plan for UK pubs. Pub closures are soaring. And if we are told to drink


less... And dry January, people who decide to binge over Christmas and


go completely dry over January, according to one pub, every time you


go dry for January, a bartender dies! I think that is a little over


the top! I wonder how they encourage their customers to drink. Pubs have


had a rough time, but if they are closing at the rate of 29 per week,


it is difficult, but you cannot base health advice on whether the retail


sector will suffer from it. You could make the same argument about


smoking. Add chicken shops. What do you think about this? Talking about


serving more coffee, but many pubs do that. It is tough. Hotel and


catering, pubs, it is a top business and a lot of pubs have managed to


survive because they have turned into gastropods, concentrating on


food. It is not new. Drink-driving, the cost of transport, all of that.


Cheaper supermarkets. People drinking more at home. Where I live,


which is a town that used to have the highest number of pubs per


capita, it is interesting. The traditional pubs, some of them are


empty, but we have a booming trade in micro-pubs that are doing well.


That tells you something about the relationship between pub landlords


and the breweries. A lot of places struggle the cars... It is not the


rent, it is the compulsory... Being tied to a brewery. I know a place


where pubs have closed book two micro-pubs have opened, one of which


has a wall on which mobile phones are nailed with six inch nails and


there is a sign that you are not allowed to use your mobile phone in


this pub, or you give money to charity. That is a niche market. All


that is happening is that some inventive pub landlords are


reinventing themselves. And some are not. There was a report during the


week from Morgan Stanley that said people might stay alone because of


fears of going abroad and terror and it may be if we have people staying


here to have holidays, pubs might well do well in the summer. It


happened in 2009, and people stated. This is from the Sunday Times,


diabetes fear over Coca-Cola being cheaper than water. Talking about


sugar and the question of sugar taxes coming back. I think there is


going to be pressure on the government to look at this. I am not


sure whether a sugar taxes the answer because there will be a


complaint that it will hit poorer families harder. It seems to me what


you need to do is encourage food manufacturers to use less sugar to


start with, which goes back to things about salt and fat, with


people saying they are now putting in less. You wonder why they did not


to start with. This is quite a bit of research, that Coca-Cola drinks


in a supermarket, their own brand, is cheaper than bottled water. It


tells you something about bottled water, as well. It is like all of


these stories, you can turn it into what you want. The biggest pressure


on the health service, apart from the ageing population is diabetes,


because of the knock-on effect and cost of that. A huge amount of the


NHS budget. Apparently we will all get bodies like this model if we do


not eat sugar! Next week, we will be doing this without clothes! You


could look at minimum pricing. It seems ludicrous if you sell four


litres of cola at 90p and minimum price might do it. They tried it


with alcohol in Scotland, so why not do that? The Sunday Mirror has an


exclusive, Cheryl Fernandez-Versini, I am getting a divorce. It is quite


sad. She is popular with a lot of people. She will have to change her


name stop the difficult surname will have to go and something different,


maybe she will go back to her former name. What is interesting, she has


?20 million, there is no prenuptial agreement, what happens to the


money? The lawyers get it. That is what does not help with parenting.


There are no children involved, but this celebrity, it is on, it is off,


I have got bored with this person, I am getting rid of them. It does that


help, it puts out the message that when you get fed up, you can go onto


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