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last 16 ties. And the strong words from one presidential candidate of

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Fifa and a return to tennis for a new dad Andy Murray. That's all in

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50 minutes. Hello and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers With me are Beth Rigby, the

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media editor at the Times, and the The Guardian leads with

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our top story tonight, the new strike action announced

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by junior doctors in England. The same story dominates

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the front page of the i newspaper, which also says Jeremy Hunt faces

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a legal challenge to the new A group of former senior military

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commanders have told the Telegraph The Times has new polling on the EU

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referendum, claiming voters are The Indpendent leads with what it

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calls President Obama's "last-ditch 'Mars barred' is the Metro's

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headline, as the chocolate maker The FT leads with new merger talks

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between the London and Frankfurt And, according to the Mail, most

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meat sold in restaurants and supermarkets

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is from animals raised on GM feed. Starting with the Times. Nation

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divided. As regards the EU referendum, voters split over the

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Brexit in the first poll since David Cameron came back with that deal

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last week. It is going to be tight. But we always knew that, didn't we?

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We knew the nation was divided. The first couple of days we've been

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concentrating on the Conservative Party for obvious reasons. One good

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thing I suppose, all on budget of people who have benefited from the

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start of the campaign, is the polling industry. They suffered

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after the general election after getting it so badly wrong. Of course

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they might still get it wrong! This one in the Times has more or less

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the same number of people saying they want to remain or leave. But it

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is only one poll. There is also an internet poll and has already been

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an analysis of the differences between the results you get,

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depending on how you conduct the poll. Telephone polls seem to find

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more people saying we should stay in the EU, so I think we do have to be

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extremely cautious of these. Not much detail has been put forward

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about why people have come to the conclusions they have. If you look

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at the opinion polls that have been carried out in other countries,

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after they had similar referendums, huge fluctuations. The poles up

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until this one it seems house by and large suggested that the income has

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been ahead. It has tightened, it would seem. Both sides are going to

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be trying to get out their message in the next four months, in whatever

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way will be successful. It could mean using the personalities of

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someone like Boris Johnson, or whatever. Are we going to see the

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fax, the issues, SAP seen by all of that? What's interesting, when you

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look back to the Scottish referendum, everyone was complacent,

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thinking Scotland would vote to stay in the EU. There was that polling

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the Sunday Times and suddenly the polls had narrowed to a few points.

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And then that mad rush from David Cameron. Cameron started rushing up

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to Scotland, business started coming out to talk about the threat of

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Scotland leaving the union and the dangers the Scottish consumers et

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cetera. What we see now is that regardless of what happens to the

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polls, both sides are going to fight this to the death. They are starting

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early and they are going to... We will have this campaign every day

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for four months until June 23. I have been involved in a few

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campaigns in my time but your worst position is complacency. If the

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polls show you are ahead, the danger is supporters get complacent and

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stone turnout. With the In campaign, which I support, they are ahead and

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it is in their interest to appear close. The Daily Telegraph. We are

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safer in Europe. The security element is being trotted out here.

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We are safer if we stay in Europe, apparently. This is going back to

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the point about having an orchestrated campaign. The

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government this morning... There was a letter from the FTSE to stay in

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Europe today. The Telegraph have -- has a letter saying they believe it

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is in the national interest to remain an EU member. The Out

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campaign will say that this is another example of Project Fiona,

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that actually our security interests are best represented within Nato,

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not within the European Union. And what the generals are doing probably

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pushed or encouraged by the government is to put fear into the

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public that we will be less secure if we leave the EU. But the fact is,

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if you have a bunch of people who want to run your Armed Forces that

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is quite a potent message, regardless of whether it is put in

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fact or not. I think it is fair to say that the remain campaign had the

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best of the media in the first few days of the referendum. Boris made a

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splash with his announcement, that was quickly undermined, the reasons

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why he was doing it, whether it was out of personal ad mission. David

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Cameron on strong form yesterday. -- admission. We have the economic

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argument made by the FTSE 100 companies. Now what we have the

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defence argument. I think Downing Street is determined that no -- the

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campaign should not be built up. It will be a long campaign. They can't

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sustain this all the way through. They are getting in pretty heavy

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blows early on. But there could be statistics and facts that are out of

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their control. Look at the Daily Telegraph. Migrant influx tops

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100,006 weeks. At the kind of headline that could make people

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think we need to control our borders, in their opinion. This just

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shows that the ripple effect... The cerium or -- the cerium crisis's

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effect. 110,000 migrants have travelled to the EU in the past six

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weeks, compared with 7500 in the same period last year. But there's

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nothing the EU can do about the in Syria. Our decision as to whether or

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not to stay in the EU could hinge on this. But this story, vis-a-vis

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Britain's membership of the EU, is a red herring. This is actually... The

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argument about whether we stay in or out of Europe is all about the free

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movement of people across the European single market. What this is

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is a refugee crisis stemmed by a wall, created by a wall, and the

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fact that 110,000 people arrive on the shores of Europe doesn't

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translate to a massive spike in migration into the UK because these

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people can't get access into the UK, apart from in a refugee

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programme. David Cameron has been quite tardy in the numbers of people

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he would take, 20,000 against 1 million for Germany. It is a red

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herring, you are right, in policy terms. At in terms of the impact on

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the referendum campaign it's a serious issue. -- but in terms. The

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question of migrants is so potent for 70 people in this country.

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People fear crime. -- for so many people. The fact that statistics

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tell a different story doesn't matter. It seems people fear the

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influx of immigrants, even if the fax say differently. Which is why

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David Cameron is having this referendum in June, ahead of the

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summer months when you will see a massive spike. The whole point of

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the winter is people don't make the journey because it is so

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treacherous. More than 400 people, including many children, have

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already drowned this year making the journey or trying to make the

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crossing. Guardian. Junior doctors declare fresh waves of strikes. They

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will be long enough, 48 hours, this is getting very nasty. Yes, the

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stakes are very high and clearly Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary,

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is hoping that the story will go away. -- Health Secretary. They will

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realise it wasn't so bad after all and they will go along with it,

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whether they like it or not. It seems from the position of the

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junior doctors that they are ready to go in for the long haul. But the

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last thing the government wants, because they will have a strategy --

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won't have a strategy, beyond hoping for the best, that junior doctors

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like in other industries will eventually lose the will to carry on

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the fight. At the moment they seem to have the will to go all the way.

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We had one junior doctors saying she was ready to go on and on in this

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dispute. What do you think this means for Jeremy Hunt? This story

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reminds me of what happened with Michael Gove. In the end, in the

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run-up to the election, he had such bad relations with the teaching

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community that effectively he was moved out of that department,

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because Lynton Crosby, the then Tory election chief, took the view that

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he was so toxic that it would affect their prospects at the polls. What

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would happen here is that Jeremy Hunt will be moved on from the

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department of health in the reshuffle that will happen. I think

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he will see this through, they will hope it will change when the

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contract kicks in and then he will move on. Because I think the medical

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community... Unless the judicial review decides the government can't

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impose a contract. Last attempt by President Obama. He hasn't been able

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to shut Guantanamo Bay. He probably won't still be able to do it is

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having a go and is really going for it. He has this visit to Cuba. Lots

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of controversial things. People who hate President Obama will hate him

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even more for attending to do all of this. Of course we know campaigning

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is going on to replace President Obama. We haven't seen any reaction

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yet from Donald Trump. You can see him turning around and saying the

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bill will be four times as big. It is a very inflammatory issue. The

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problem with President Obama is he doesn't have control over the

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Congress. It isn't good for his legacy, I suppose, that he said he

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would shut it and hasn't been able to. In the 2008 presidential

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election he described it as a sad chapter for American history and

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pledged to do something about it. He also pledged to do something about

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gun laws. There have been many things he wanted to do and the

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reality of when you actually get into the White House and you are

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gridlocked by your Congress it isn't possible. But he is really going for

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it in his final months. Even if he can't affect the change, he is

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putting these things back on the table, which is something. Yes. On

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the The Daily Mail. Most meat sold in restaurants and supermarkets is

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from animals raised on GM food. Basically there's been a whole

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debate about genetically modified crops in the UK. It is massive in

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the US. In the UK we have been very reluctant to have GM crops and we

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really only have GM crops for research centres. But obviously need

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imported is being fed on grain and maize that is GM. So it turns out

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that even though we have stringent rules in the UK about not having GM

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products on our food chain, the scale of the imported food means

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that we have loads of GM in our food chain, which tells you about the

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globalisation of food. Are people going to be bothered about this, do

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you think? The evidence suggests that they are not and that they tend

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to get not very excited about it. I think there's been a lot of hype

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about GM. It might be that after a while people think they have been

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consuming GM in one form or another for quite a long time, we haven't

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all fallen sick, and we will get used to the idea that actually GM is

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not the Frankenstein thing that some people try to suggest it is. It said

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here that big supermarkets said customers could avoid GM exposure if

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they bought organic food, because even UK bred animals might be fed

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food from overseas. But the thing is organic food is really expensive for

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so many people. So there are always trade-offs to these arguments.

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Finally, we have about one minute left, which chief is paid ?819,000

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for one year? This is your story in the Times. Yes. It is ironic. The

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chief exec of the consumer Champion has been paid such a big salary. He

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is probably the highest paid executive of a charity in the UK.

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The reason he has been paid such a big amount is that he had a full

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term incentive plan that paid out this fee and he was paid ?500,000 as

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a bonus. But the fact is... It will still be a surprise to a lot of

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people. Someone tweeted to me when I put this story out, she said, Which?

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should have a report into charities... they should investigate

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themselves. think they want to get the story out and be done with it.

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there's a new chairman in now and i don't think these sorts of paid --

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pay packets will be repeated, but it is damaging to the brand. exactly.

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we will have to end of there. it was the best story. let's not mention

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that. dodgy editors of the times newspaper! you will get her into

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trouble. thank you so much for looking at the stories. stay with

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us. much more coming up on bbc news. now it's time for sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday, with me, Ore Oduba.

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