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around. When the showers long they could be heavy with some hail and

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plunder. -- thunder. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be With me are Jason Beattie,

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who's the Political Editor at the Daily Mirror

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and the journalist and Let's have a quick look

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at tomorrow's front pages. The Guardian reports on links

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between the suspected Brussels bombers and November's

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attacks in Paris. The Express warns there could be

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more than 300 potential jihadist The Metro carries news

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of a panicking note apparently left on a computer by one

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of the Brussels suspects. The Telegraph quotes a former head

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of MI6 saying that leaving the EU could help improve

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Britain's security. The Independent laments a tragedy

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of errors by the Belgian authorities which meant they missed chances

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to stop yesterday's attacks. The Times also focuses on those

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intelligence failings, saying Turkey warned that one

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of the bombers was a suspected terrorist after deporting him back

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to Belgium last year. Meanwhile, the FT leads on fears

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that the referendum on the EU We will discuss the front pages over

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the next 15 minutes or so. Jason, the front of the Independent, a

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tragedy of errors? This extraordinary photo on the front of

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the crowds in Belgium showing great defiance, but sadness and morning.

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This outpouring of grief and the message of solidarity, that they

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start looking at how did this happen. Finding there were a lot of

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errors by the Belgium Security service. They have had quite a lot

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of success in other areas, but it looks like this time there were

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failures. And the president of Turkey has said, we found this

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guide, we returned him, and we alerted the Belgian authorities.

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They failed to pick him up. It is a They failed to pick him up. It is a

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huge embarrassment. And talk on the front of the Independent of Interpol

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knowing about at least one of these individuals as well? Yes, Brahim

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el-Bakraoui, one of the brothers. There was an Interpol red notice for

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him and on the 14th of July the Turks let the Dutch and Belgian

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authorities know he had come back. The problem is, there are many

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security services in Europe and if people come back from Turkey and

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Syria and they haven't been able to find anything tangible on them as

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being involved in terrorist training, is it guilty by

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association? This is one of those times they missed what their

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connections are. They did have links to the Paris attacks. They were

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known, it wasn't like the two brothers were unknown to

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authorities. They were note and they slip through. Crowds gathered, as

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they have done all day lighting candles. This is becoming a pattern

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we don't want to see, but we saw it after Charlie Hebdo, and we saw it

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again in November after the Paris attacks. It is something we will

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also have to get used to. Also moving increasingly now, stories of

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the victims and the Guardian carries some of those on its front page?

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This is a picture of one of the victims, a chef who is going to New

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York, there with her husband and twin daughters. The only reason they

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survived because the little girls wandered away to play off and their

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father had followed them. Unfortunately their mother was

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killed. 31 victims, their names are slowly coming out. It is important

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to give more attention on the victims, instead of the terrorists.

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They want to be notorious and have everybody feeling fear. This picture

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of a beautiful woman and her spirits coming through our important. We are

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not just focusing on the criminals. I am a newspaper man and I have

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covered a lot of these events. I covered a lot of these events. I

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hate to admit it, there is look at the number, how many people have

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died, how big a catastrophe and tragedy is it rushed Jamaat that is

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sometimes how we have two thing. The next thing is to find the human

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story, which brings it home and the tragedy. You can have a better

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understanding of the sheer horror behind it. The other thing that

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strikes me about this prove Ian woman and her family, is this

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element of extraordinary chance that exist in life, where something as a

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very, very mundane as two little children running off to play

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somewhere else in an airport departure lounge, turns out to be a

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matter as to whether you live or die. We have attacks like this

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happening in Iraq, in Syria and Turkey just recently. It is people

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surviving by chance. They almost have this edge, if I act and to be

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there, it will be my lucky day and if it turns out to be my lucky day,

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I get away with it. It is this randomness. She is up Ruby, married

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to a Belgian, at the airport to go and see sister in America. You

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suddenly realise we are a much smaller world. We are an

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international world. These random attacks, they are not just in one

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country, they affect lives everywhere. Jason, two stories in

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the Telegraph, go to the security scanning story. Passengers could

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face security scanners at airport doors? We have a problem, at the

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moment Airports are initially open, you drop off your loved ones and

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then you go through security before you board the flight. Obviously what

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happened in Zaventem airport, they were able to walk in before any

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security. The difficult for any government is they have to balance

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the disruption to everyday life. They have to consider, do we

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actually bring in such security that the terrorists have won, with the

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need to protect lives. It is a difficult decision. There is a good

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case at somewhere like an airport to have the security at the beginning

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rather than halfway through. But the problem with that, you will have a

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queue outside the front door. Several airports around the world do

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do this and you have to scan your bags before you even get to the

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airport. The problem is, what do you do at Metro stations? You had a

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large number of victims from the bombing at the Metro station. Can

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you imagine if we had to deal with that that the underground and rush

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hour here if you had to go to scanners? You have to be able to get

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these cells uncovered before it gets that far. At the time the bomb is

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that close, people will die even if it is not inside. The other

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Telegraph story, quitting the EU would help our security. This is the

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former MI6 chief, effectively bringing the EU debate into this

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area? This is a very political stance to take. This is about the

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debate before the referendum. We have three months to go before the

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referendum about exiting the EU. And this thing where we would have

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stronger controls. The Great Britain is not part of Schengen, and we do

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have a border because we are an island. There are security checks.

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His argument is it with the more secure. You will not stop the free

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movement of people and we cannot afford to do that. Trade and the

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political reality we are part of Europe, even if not part of the EU.

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He said it with BB ability to jump the European Convention on human

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rights and the difficulty in extraditing Abu Hamza. It is an

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interesting take on this. These comments have made me question the

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intelligence of the intelligence chiefs. One of the disadvantages

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possibly as we would have to get rid of the European arrest warrant, the

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international agreement so you can extradite a criminal. Few would

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notice its passing. About 100 people a year, including a dozen terrorist

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suspects from other European countries under the European arrest

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warrant. The former head of MI6 to say if you would notice its passing,

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I find incomprehensible. The Metro, a quote from one of the suicide

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bombers, Jason? Seems to be a message left to his mother. It was

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on his laptop found at the last moment. I am struggling with what to

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think about it. It shows he was obviously in a disturbed state, but

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he was willing to blow himself up. I suppose it is panicking before the

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event, but it goes back to what you said before about concentrating more

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on the victims and not on those who did it? Yes, you read these notes,

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but it is hard to know what the motivation is to leave it on a

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laptop. Does he know it is going to be found. It is like he is in a

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hurry and doesn't know what to do. This is the express front page. 300

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jihadists on our streets. This is a reference to the security concerns

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that are real here as well. Yes, intelligence coming in from European

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intelligence services, but also from Iraq, saying there are 300 or close

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to 400 that have come back to the UK and could potentially pose a

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terrorist threats. It says 300 jihadists on the streets, but nobody

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knows if they are the watch. You would assume they are on some sort

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of watch list and I assume now there will be more follow-up after what

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has happened. The issue is, those who have gone to fight and then come

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back. What happens? Probably a little bit alarmist. We do know the

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last ones who have gone a comeback, do pose a risk. I'm not sure all the

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300 who have returned do. What do we do to stop radicalisation, how do we

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stop young minds being twisted by this, what is a poison. Nothing to

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do with Islam, but it is a much more difficult issue. We are going to

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change the subject. Stop refunding victims of online fraud, the banks

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are being told. It is an interesting idea. Sir Bernard Hogan Howe, head

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of the Met. People are becoming lazy. Not updating their security,

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control on their computers and they are allowing themselves to be

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conned. The banks are making it too relaxed and we need to amend

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behaviour. I can see the argument behind it. If a bank does decide it

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is no longer going to give refunds for fraud and they could lose a

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competitive advantage. People should update anti-virus software and make

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sure passwords are up today. There were 3 million cases of fraud but

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only 9000 convictions. It shows you how widespread this is and maybe

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something like stronger passwords can reduce the threat. That is it

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from us tonight. Before you go, while we have been on air, several

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others have come in. There is the daily Mirror, the two British

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students convicted of plotting drive-by student is inspired by

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so-called Islamic state to kill soldiers, police officers and

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civilians in London. The Daily Mail is Kent Police stop lorry with 26

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migrants inside. All of the pages are online where you can read a

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detailed review of the papers. Thank you to my guests. Good buy.

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