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Now on BBC News here's Rachel Schofield with The Papers.
Welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers. Let us get a
flavour of the front pages. We start with the Sunday express.
The times are talking about the new Israeli ambassador to Britain who
has joined the debate about anti-Semitism in the Labour Party.
The Ob server has an interview with Sadiq Khan.
The Mail on Sunday is all about the BBC and how we may be losing some
prime-time programmes. Yes, and it will do this and they
will do it for all the wrong reasons because certain people in the
Conservative Party, including John Whittingdale, I cannot tell you how
angry this makes me, want to diminish and take away the presence
of the BBC. They want to turn us into the PBS of America. We are told
we are a capitalist country where competition drives excellence. The
BBC has of late produced the most extraordinary dramas. This really
quite vindictive set of policies doesn't understand that the people
feel passionately about the BBC. I hope people like this because this
is happening now. I am all in favour of competition
but this isn't a level playing field. It's all very well seeing
have the BBC compete with ITV. The BBC has ?3.7 billion licence fee
funds so it is not a level playing field. I think John Whittingdale is
try to redress this because he is aware that ITV are seeing this as
unfair competition. I do have sympathy with what he is saying but,
having said that, it would be unfortunate if the BBC's flagship
programmes were damaged. I would not like to see that but I think there
is something to be done to make it a more level playing field.
You said you would like to see people rise up against it. The
public would have something to say about this, surely.
I hope so and I hope there is a public consultation. But when we
need them government really get them to us. I hope we do have one and
they disagree with you, Ruth, because ITV is doing financially
very well. The media expert was seeing their profits are doing very
well. Of course but it is not a level
playing field. What does that even mean?
I will tell you! The BBC has the licence fee money and ITV doesn't.
But the output on the BBC is massive with the number of channels.
I always grovel when the worst comes to the worst. Some people would
challenge whether the BBC should be doing programmes like Strictly Come
Dancing at all. Why? Because they are successful?
I don't go that far. Become irrelevant like PBS. No, the
public loves the BBC. As for your level playing field, the advertisers
on the commercial channels take money from our pocket five times
more. ITV has to work to get that money by
getting the advertisers were at the BBC does not. I'm going to stick to
my DD is that it is not a level playing field.
Before we get 50 cups -- the city coffers Garth -- fisticuffs...
David Cameron 's idea for academies in schools is proving unpopular.
Yes, the minister was heckled and asked if she was running the
Department or Nick Gibb was, and after that there were accusations of
sexism. I have some sympathy with the teachers, which may surprise you
as men. I do see there is a problem here. What I find interesting is not
the Education Secretary being heckled by teachers. That is not a
story, that is an everyday event. What is interesting is that the
Prime Minister is thinking about making his concessions to
Conservative rebels and I think many of them are rebelling purely because
of Brexit. It is to do with the discomfort and rebellion in the
Conservative Party. We are going to talk about Labour Party but let us
remember there are problems internally with the Conservative
Party. You think this is internal politics?
A party that believes in competition wants to kill the BBC. A party that
believes in choice is now ticking choice away from education. Are you
a party, I'm asking the Conservative Party, a party that believes in a
variety of educational responses to educational demands and needs or are
you a party that centralises and quite a Communist way and decides
how everything is going to be an Academy.
I conceded that point. I think they should go easy on the academy
programme. But it is the politics here and recently the Prime Minister
made concessions on the trading and build because he wanted the trade
unions to support a -- support him on Brexit.
Let us move our focus to the Labour Party. The anti-Semitism row
deepens. The Sunday Telegraph said they have put together a dossier
with what they describe of disturbing examples of anti-Semitic
attitudes and Labour Party. It has taken off and I am glad we
are talking about it. No forms of racism should be tolerated. But I do
think, I sometimes wonder if Ken Livingstone is a double agent for
the Conservative Party because what a horrible moment to have a hissy
fit, which is going to affect the elections. The right-wing press are
a field day and he should be banished from the party as from now.
We do not need investigation. He is bringing the party into disrepute.
On one side there is the Ken Livingstone issued but the whole
point is that this has broadened into a wider debate about a
potential problem in the Labour Party.
What do you think? This will shock horror but I agree with her. I
believe Ken Livingstone should just be out. He has form. It is not as if
he doesn't make well statements. You can see how cross some of his
colleagues are. The man is a menace and not just to the Labour Party but
to the country. He has a menace to race relations. I think he should be
banished to outer darkness. While we are still on this, let us
bring in the Observer because their top story is on the same story. On
the impact it will have on the London mayor role elections.
I want as much outrage from the public on, what I have never seen so
much of as the hideously racist campaign that Zac Goldsmith has been
conducting. The letters some of us have had seeing things like you are
a Hindu and you are one of us but those horrible Muslims are not. The
electoral commission needs to look at how Siddique Khan is caught
between the terrible anti-Semitism row that Ken Livingstone and others
have created and this fall going for him because he is a Muslim. He is a
liberal Muslim. If a Muslim of high integrity cannot stand for high
office what kind of society are we running?
I have sympathy with that. We are friends again and excavation
Mark I think the whole racism thing is appalling. I have a great deal of
sympathy with Sadiq Khan. I'm not taking sides politically, God
forbid. Go on.
May the best man win and I would be whole fight -- horrified if he lost
the election because of this. If he loses it because of racism that is
terrible. You have been on your conspiracy
theories on the Brexit campaign some people have said with the Labour
Party that this whole route has been stalked by embittered old Blairites.
It could be but I think he has form of being mischievous.
We need a proper opposition to the government.
Tucked away under the picture from the two-day Yorkshire, the UK in a
housing crisis. And entered to see it doesn't sound like a crisis to me
but what is the angle. David Cameron wanted a homeowning
democracy but new findings say four in ten people will not own their own
homes ever. It is unaffordable housing. In London in particular and
big cities like Birmingham. You are getting wonderful flats being built
at people on ordinary wages working in the public service or even... We
are a low-wage economy. They just cannot afford it. It is
simple economics. Supply and demand. Population is rising and demand is
not following -- supply. Successive governments haven't
managed to get a grip on it. They have not and it is because they
will get a grip on the subject of supply which might mean building on
the green belt. Philip Green's wife has had an
unusual summons to the House of Commons.
I think both of them should be there. This is one of the saddest
stories. I don't think any business should survive cos it doesn't
deserve to survive but what is actually being done to BHS by a
profligate owner and his wife, allegedly, needs to be examined by
Parliament. They are in a tax haven. I am making no allegations but it
happens to be the truth that she lives in a tax haven. They need to
be questioned. It is time that this kind of capitalism was tamed.
Monaco is a sunny place for shady people.
Allegedly. We have to be careful. But they have been called before the
select committee and able look at whether the funds were taken out
while the deficit was being dulled up. And also to look at how the
business collapsed so rapidly. I am looking forward to seeing the
evidence. We are going to skip ahead to the
Sunday Express because a lovely picture of Kate Middleton. She is
going to be on the cover of Vogue. Much kinder than the Daily Mail
because they were quite waspish. I wanted to get a flavour of what the
opposition was doing on the other news channels and they went really
hard on this story. I think she is absolutely a superb person and looks
terrific and natural and is a person of the age.
It is a controlled image. Not overly stylised and glamorous. Not
necessarily their bogey would imagine.
It is absolutely image making. -- not the Vogue magazine you would
imagine. I think that is a bit hard because
the royal family does a terrific job, if I may say so, and I think
she is hanging on that tradition. We won't go there.
On all the back pages, the underdog Leicester City may come out on top.
What is so fascinating is the fact that although the city themselves
are hugely invested in this, other fans from rival teams who know they
cannot win by getting behind Leicester.
Exactly Anders is one of those wonderful fairy stories. It came
from nowhere and they are at the top. The managers from the expense
of football teams are asking what is the magic. In the Telegraph, a
gambler debt to pounds on the team and is now likely to net ?45,000.
All I can say is 5000 to one, I wish I'd put a tenner on.
Somebody put a bet on and cashed it in after one week when they lost.
I could have bought VHS. -- BHS. Yet fully tied together.
We do look at the front pages every evening at 10:45pm.